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January 05, 2025, 11:33:20 PM
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However, Pakistan's comeback in the second innings was completely unexpected. Pakistan, which could not score 200 runs after losing 10 wickets in the first innings, scored more than 200 runs in the second innings.
Pakistan has surprised everyone with their batting performance in the second innings. I was expecting them to lose the match by an innings, but now it looks like they will manage to take a lead. Still, their chance is almost zero to win the match or make a draw. I won't be surprised if Pakistan batting line-up collapse on day 4. They have to score 210 more runs to take a lead. Betting odds is 1.10× for South Africa now.


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January 05, 2025, 11:34:59 PM
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We can confirm that Pakistan will not win their second Test match by looking at their batting performance. After losing the first match, they are facing defeat again in the second match, especially against South Africa, their batting and bowling performance could not improve. The runs scored by South Africa in their first innings were really huge, South Africa scored 615 runs. However, Pakistan was all out for just 194 runs in their first innings, their batting performance was very disappointing and bad. Today, Pakistan is batting again in the second innings and the way they are batting, it seems that they will fail to meet the target given by South Africa. Still, Pakistan needs to score 381 runs to meet South Africa's target, and they may lose wickets to achieve this run. And we can pretty much confirm that South Africa will be able to win the match against Pakistan in this Test series.
I am looking at their wickets which have not lost even 1 till 27 overs which is playing quite well and saving wickets.  If they also improve their pace, they can win this match.  Pakistan are considered good to win the worse they play, so many people's hopes are dashed for them and they will lose this match too and lose the series to a weaker team.  As their expressions are seen, their game is also getting weaker, this is a chance for Pakistan to play well in this innings and win the match by scoring maximum runs.  Pakistan need 400 runs in all their next overs which is difficult with South Africa's pressure, if they can survive this then Pakistan A can be fully expected to win this match.South Africa are building their strength and are play in preparation for defeat Pakistan in the first match.

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January 05, 2025, 11:57:13 PM
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Practically nothing can be said about Pakistan because in the first innings only 197 runs were all out and the follow on could not be avoided whereas in the second innings Pakistan managed to make a partnership of 205 runs. But sadly Pakistan's first wicket fell and Babar Azam was out for a team-high 205 and a personal 81. There were only 6 overs left in today's third day but Babar Azam's dismissal at this last time is really bad.  Hopefully, Pakistan can collect 215 runs on the fourth day and give a run lead.  But we as supporters expect Pakistan to draw this match.
Yes ,you are exactly right. Pakistan International test cricket team could not win this match because South African team is looking in good form. Pakistani team got chance in last match but they missed it but now South African team is looking very strong and that is good for Pakistani team to draw that match but it will be difficult because there are more runs which have to make by Pak team and Pakistan team is trail by 208 runs and South African team will try to win this match as we saw they made 615 runs in the first inning and they will get small target in second inning and now we want draw match. Let see what happens because Pak team could do in the any situation but they should give all effort to draw this match.Pakistan team gad lost first match but now they have to draw this match to save respect.
Competition of Pakistan touring to South Africa squad playing Test format competition of two matches and previous both engaged in T20 format competition and One day competition. T20 format South Africa squad whitewashed Pakistan squad fully and Pakistan squad took revenge in one day competition by whitewash South Africa in all matches and now this format competition and this match decide who will be the winner of this touring competitions. South Africa squad already lead competition with one victory and this match will also won by South Africa squad according to current condition of match and it's stats. Three days of second test was finished and South Africa squad was managed to collect 615 scores and Pakistan squad was destroyed completely in first inning just 194 scores. Performance in second inning of Pakistan squad is good and they lost 1 batter wicket and collected 214 scores. Shan Maqsood and Khuram Shahzad both are at crease and shan Maqsood displaying fantastic performance with fantastic scores 102. Now Pakistan squad trail this match with 208 scores.

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January 06, 2025, 02:07:59 AM
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However, Pakistan's comeback in the second innings was completely unexpected. Pakistan, which could not score 200 runs after losing 10 wickets in the first innings, scored more than 200 runs in the second innings.
Pakistan has surprised everyone with their batting performance in the second innings. I was expecting them to lose the match by an innings, but now it looks like they will manage to take a lead. Still, their chance is almost zero to win the match or make a draw. I won't be surprised if Pakistan batting line-up collapse on day 4. They have to score 210 more runs to take a lead. Betting odds is 1.10× for South Africa now.


The way Pakistan batted in their first innings but Pakistan's batting in the second innings was opposite to the first innings. While South Africa ended the innings with 615 runs, Pakistan were bowled out for just 194 runs, meaning Pakistan started the second innings trailing by 418 runs in the first innings. These two batsmen, Babar Azam and Suad Shakeel, Shan Masood have made a partnership of about 205 runs, that is, if Pakistan can make such a big partnership for the second time, then it will not be too late for Pakistan to take the lead.

 
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January 06, 2025, 04:36:43 AM
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Compared to the first innings, Pakistan team has been able to strengthen their batting performance a lot in the second innings. South Africa failed to meet the target given in the first innings but Pakistan is batting well in the second innings. Shan Masood, as a captain of the team, has batted exceptionally well and his brilliant century is currently 102 runs. Moreover, Babur Azam has scored 81 runs and his batting performance was good but unfortunately he got out. However, if Pakistan team wants to maintain their dominance then they will definitely have to play well in today's match. If Pakistan team wants to score 208 runs then they will be able to meet the target of South Africa, and if they want to win then Pakistan team must be at its best in bowling and batting.
It is true that Pakistan batted much better in their second innings, but they still need to collect 208 runs. Pakistan's batting performance in the second innings seems to be that, it might not be too difficult for Pakistan to cross these runs. In fact, South Africa scored much more runs in their first innings for which Pakistan is still far behind. As they scored 615 runs in the first innings, we saw three South African batsmen score centuries. Today again Pakistan will bat in their second innings, If Pakistan's batsmen bat more patiently and with more responsibility, then there is a possibility of this match being a draw.

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January 06, 2025, 05:01:26 AM
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Compared to the first innings, Pakistan team has been able to strengthen their batting performance a lot in the second innings. South Africa failed to meet the target given in the first innings but Pakistan is batting well in the second innings. Shan Masood, as a captain of the team, has batted exceptionally well and his brilliant century is currently 102 runs. Moreover, Babur Azam has scored 81 runs and his batting performance was good but unfortunately he got out. However, if Pakistan team wants to maintain their dominance then they will definitely have to play well in today's match. If Pakistan team wants to score 208 runs then they will be able to meet the target of South Africa, and if they want to win then Pakistan team must be at its best in bowling and batting.
It is true that Pakistan batted much better in their second innings, but they still need to collect 208 runs. Pakistan's batting performance in the second innings seems to be that, it might not be too difficult for Pakistan to cross these runs. In fact, South Africa scored much more runs in their first innings for which Pakistan is still far behind. As they scored 615 runs in the first innings, we saw three South African batsmen score centuries. Today again Pakistan will bat in their second innings, If Pakistan's batsmen bat more patiently and with more responsibility, then there is a possibility of this match being a draw.

Pakistan batted incredibly well. Babar Azam was a bit unlucky. Babar failed to score a century. Babar Azam was dismissed for 81 runs. Babar Azam had also played a brilliant innings of 58 runs in the first innings. However, Shan Massod is still at the crease with 102 runs. Rizwan, Masood, Ayub, Khurram and Agha Salman are all very talented batsmen. And we have seen big innings from these batsmen in the past. So it is not surprising if Pakistan scores big in the second innings.

However, since the performance of Pakistani players is very erratic. So nothing can be predicted before seeing their performance in the first session tomorrow. If Pakistan can bat well in the first session, then the team will be able to provide a decent target in this match. However, if Pakistan loses wickets in the first session, then I think Pakistan will definitely lose this match.

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January 06, 2025, 05:05:42 AM
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Compared to the first innings, Pakistan team has been able to strengthen their batting performance a lot in the second innings. South Africa failed to meet the target given in the first innings but Pakistan is batting well in the second innings. Shan Masood, as a captain of the team, has batted exceptionally well and his brilliant century is currently 102 runs. Moreover, Babur Azam has scored 81 runs and his batting performance was good but unfortunately he got out. However, if Pakistan team wants to maintain their dominance then they will definitely have to play well in today's match. If Pakistan team wants to score 208 runs then they will be able to meet the target of South Africa, and if they want to win then Pakistan team must be at its best in bowling and batting.
It is true that Pakistan batted much better in their second innings, but they still need to collect 208 runs. Pakistan's batting performance in the second innings seems to be that, it might not be too difficult for Pakistan to cross these runs. In fact, South Africa scored much more runs in their first innings for which Pakistan is still far behind. As they scored 615 runs in the first innings, we saw three South African batsmen score centuries. Today again Pakistan will bat in their second innings, If Pakistan's batsmen bat more patiently and with more responsibility, then there is a possibility of this match being a draw.
South Africa batted brilliantly in the Test against Pakistan and scored a massive 615 runs. Chasing a huge total, Pakistan team was psychologically weak and lost all their wickets for 194 runs and were just shy of following on. In the next innings, they came back to the game and scored 213 runs for 1 wicket. Pakistan is still behind by 208 runs which may be possible for them in the current situation but it may be difficult for them to overcome it where they have experienced and aggressive bowlers like Marco Jansen and Rabada if they can bowl better then it may still be an impossible target for Pakistan team. South Africa team Rickelton scored 259 runs and team captain Bavuma scored 106 runs besides wicketkeeper batsman Verreynne scored 100 runs which gave them a strong score. Although Pakistan are in a good position before the start of the fourth day's play, if they can take all the wickets then it may be easy for Africa to win. However, it seems that the Cape Town Test is likely to be drawn.

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Rashid Khan! This dude single-handedly helped his team snatch victory so comfortably thanks to taking 7 freaking wickets. Good try Zimbabwe.

Pakistan has surprised everyone with their batting performance in the second innings. I was expecting them to lose the match by an innings, but now it looks like they will manage to take a lead. Still, their chance is almost zero to win the match or make a draw. I won't be surprised if Pakistan batting line-up collapse on day 4. They have to score 210 more runs to take a lead. Betting odds is 1.10× for South Africa now.
Yeah. They did honestly surprise me with their fightback, but it won't last long. They might end up giving a small lead at the end which the Proteas should chase relatively quickly without any issues.

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January 06, 2025, 08:48:51 AM
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I was looking at the test bowling averages for Indian bowlers:

Jasprit Bumrah: 19.42
Mohammed Siraj: 30.87
Prasidh Krishna: 26.00
Mohammed Shami: 27.71
Shardul Thakur: 28.38
Ravindra Jadeja: 24.10
Ravichandran Ashwin: 24.00
Washington Sundar: 25.20
Mukesh Kumar: 25.57
 
Out of these bowlers, Siraj is the only one with a >30 average. I am not sure how he is able to find an automatic spot in the playing XI every time. Perhaps close relations with Kohli and Rohit helps.
Fans hate Siraj due to his overboard antics but IMO these stats are misleading because they indicate career average and not Australia specific stats.

Bumrah is one of the greatest bowlers to play cricket. Siraj has a better run in Australia than Shami. Krishna and Mukesh are new and comparison with Thakur Saab is not good because Thakur was all rounder and can't bowl 30-35 overs in a match or long spell in 4-5 test match series.

You need a workhorse for this, very few bowlers are cut for such a workload. That's why Siraj gets a seat in the squad, Shami is also a workhorse and in the upcoming lot, the likes of Akasdeep and Mukesh fit the bill (Krishna is fragile)

Comparison with Jaddu, Ash and Sundar is not a fair argument because Spinners had no role in this series. Even Lyon didn't get to ball 50-60 overs in total by playing 5 test match series.

PS: We needed a Pujara badly and Shami ( outdue to injury) and also golden arm of Lord Thakur.

On the same note, see the gap.

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However, Pakistan's comeback in the second innings was completely unexpected. Pakistan, which could not score 200 runs after losing 10 wickets in the first innings, scored more than 200 runs in the second innings.
Pakistan has surprised everyone with their batting performance in the second innings. I was expecting them to lose the match by an innings, but now it looks like they will manage to take a lead. Still, their chance is almost zero to win the match or make a draw. I won't be surprised if Pakistan batting line-up collapse on day 4. They have to score 210 more runs to take a lead. Betting odds is 1.10× for South Africa now.


I think this is the reason why Pakistan is called an unpredictable team, in the first innings the entire team will be bowled out at 194 and in the second innings, no wicket has fallen for 194 runs. Pakistan has low chances but they way Pakistan team comeback in second inning is outstanding performance from the batters. Pakistan current score is 248 runs with loss of 2 wickets. Marco Jansen today picked the wicket of Khurram Shahzad at 17 runs. Pakistan still trail by 171 runs. Shan Maqsood playing very responsibly at 117 runs alongside with kamran ghulam. This partnership between Shan masood and kamran ghulam is very important for Pakistan if Pakistan want to give a lead to South Africa.


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Yeah. They did honestly surprise me with their fightback, but it won't last long. They might end up giving a small lead at the end which the Proteas should chase relatively quickly without any issues.

Really I am also thinking that at any time the Pakistan batsmen will collapse and they will loss by an innings. Even I am not confident that they can't even make any sort of lead. Still Pakistan trail by 150+ runs. A long way to go in this match.

Shah Masood is batting on 119 and it is a matter of time he gets out and the team collapses. I don't think that today is the day that he make 300 runs  😂.

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Yeah. They did honestly surprise me with their fightback, but it won't last long. They might end up giving a small lead at the end which the Proteas should chase relatively quickly without any issues.

Really I am also thinking that at any time the Pakistan batsmen will collapse and they will loss by an innings. Even I am not confident that they can't even make any sort of lead. Still Pakistan trail by 150+ runs. A long way to go in this match.

Shah Masood is batting on 119 and it is a matter of time he gets out and the team collapses. I don't think that today is the day that he make 300 runs  😂.
If Pakistan's Shan Masood gets out then Pakistan will really lose by innings. Babar Azam contributed a bit with 81 runs but if no batsman can contribute later Pakistan may not be able to take the lead by runs. Kamran Ghulam was run out by  Rabada, meaning Pakistan was going through a crisis moment. Pakistan are trailing by 140 runs which means that if they don't build a big partnership later on then Pakistan will definitely be defeated by an innings margin.

 
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If Pakistan's Shan Masood gets out then Pakistan will really lose by innings. Babar Azam contributed a bit with 81 runs but if no batsman can contribute later Pakistan may not be able to take the lead by runs. Kamran Ghulam was run out by  Rabada, meaning Pakistan was going through a crisis moment. Pakistan are trailing by 140 runs which means that if they don't build a big partnership later on then Pakistan will definitely be defeated by an innings margin.
Pakistan situation is very difficult and if Shan Masood gets out team might fall apart and lose by big margin. Babar Azam scored 81 runs which was good thing but now Pakistan needs other batsmen to score well too. When Kamran Ghulam was run out by Rabada it made things even harder for Pakistan. Pakistan is still 140 runs behind so they need two batsmen to work together and score a lot of runs to avoid losing by big margin. If Pakistan can not turn things around it looks like they will definitely lose by big margin. But the worse thing is that Shan Masood is on the pitch but other batsmen are getting out which can destroy the team quickly.

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Pakistan situation is very difficult and if Shan Masood gets out team might fall apart and lose by big margin. Babar Azam scored 81 runs which was good thing but now Pakistan needs other batsmen to score well too. When Kamran Ghulam was run out by Rabada it made things even harder for Pakistan. Pakistan is still 140 runs behind so they need two batsmen to work together and score a lot of runs to avoid losing by big margin. If Pakistan can not turn things around it looks like they will definitely lose by big margin. But the worse thing is that Shan Masood is on the pitch but other batsmen are getting out which can destroy the team quickly.


Pakistan doesn't get a better batting performance than Khurram Shahzad and Kamran Ghulam. If they could bat a little better, it would have been easy for Pakistan to score big. But Khurram Shahzad has only managed to add 18 runs and Kamran Ghulam has only managed to add 28 runs to the scoreboard.

Shan Masood is batting responsibly. He is still at the crease after scoring 137 runs. Saud Shakeel is also batting very carefully. He is unbeaten on 16 runs from 31 balls. Pakistan's total is 312 runs for the loss of 3 wickets. Pakistan is still trailing by 109 runs.

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January 06, 2025, 11:08:51 AM
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Pakistan cannot draw this match. Even after Babar Azam 80 and Shan Masood 102 not out, i do not expect that remaining Pakistan batsmen will bat similarly like the openers. Yes, the openers show how to play well, but remember the whole Pakistan team was booked at 194 runs in the first innings, so they just can't overnight start to play too well. Yes one or two batsmen can perform well (as we have seen the openers) but whole team need to bat like this which is not less than a miracle.

It's Lunch already and we are on day four. Pakistan has lost three wickets so far and scored 312 runs. If they can play the whole day, I guess they will have a lead of a hundred runs from here. But as we all know, Pakistan is one of the most unpredictable teams. Nobody knows what is going to happen next. I know they can collapse in just ten overs. But I also believe that they can bat the rest day and take some lead from this point.

Pakistan has to play two more sessions today. Since Shan Masood already scored a century, I would expect him to take more responsibility as a captain and try to play as long as he can. The defeat is too close, but they should fight.

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Rashid Khan! This dude single-handedly helped his team snatch victory so comfortably thanks to taking 7 freaking wickets. Good try Zimbabwe.
Absolutely true he was one man army show who really brutally punished entire Zimbabwen team, to be honest without him Afghanistan were really off colour and that why we have seen a ordinary batting partnership from Zimbabwen in his previous innings, anyway till Ervin on crease at day 4 end I taught he will easily done it for his team as still they have a decent wickets in hand, also required were too low but still Afghanistan mange to get them and defend such low target in such crucial moment and thus won a very vital match.

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Yeah. They did honestly surprise me with their fightback, but it won't last long. They might end up giving a small lead at the end which the Proteas should chase relatively quickly without any issues.
Well after baber departure they already build 200 partnership and still shan continueing his efforts, while currently the required lead is 100 around which can be easily filled if saud continue and add some decent contribution. While I believe Pakistan will try hard to push the results toward draw and that why they will bat entire day and may be next too

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January 06, 2025, 11:51:41 AM
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Day 4 Pakistan vs South Africa innings. Pakistan is yet to trail 91 runs from 7 wickets. They can't recover the first-inning runs of South Africa. In this test match surely South Africa will win. Shan Masood is playing very nicely in this inning. He collects 145 runs. But in the first Innings, he contributes only 2 runs in the innings. Pakistan can't be happy for his bad performance. For that unhappiness, Shan Masood's perfect reply in this inning.
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January 06, 2025, 01:36:43 PM
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Day 4 Pakistan vs South Africa innings. Pakistan is yet to trail 91 runs from 7 wickets. They can't recover the first-inning runs of South Africa. In this test match surely South Africa will win. Shan Masood is playing very nicely in this inning. He collects 145 runs. But in the first Innings, he contributes only 2 runs in the innings. Pakistan can't be happy for his bad performance. For that unhappiness, Shan Masood's perfect reply in this inning.
Yep, The fourth day of the second test game of series in which Pakistan are playing their second innings. It is very difficult for Pakistan to win this match because South Africa has scored 615 runs in the first innings itself and Pakistan cannot score 615 runs in two innings combined.  Even if they do South Africa still have the second innings in which they can score runs and easily win this match. Pakistan player's have scored 398 runs in 133 overs which they are scoring at a very slow pace as their 5 wickets have fallen. Pakistan effort is going pretty well they will score more runs in this innings and give South Africa a hard time. They are wrong to think that because they have a big margin of ahead of them which they are playing very hard to achieve.

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January 06, 2025, 02:13:43 PM
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Day 4 Pakistan vs South Africa innings. Pakistan is yet to trail 91 runs from 7 wickets. They can't recover the first-inning runs of South Africa. In this test match surely South Africa will win. Shan Masood is playing very nicely in this inning. He collects 145 runs. But in the first Innings, he contributes only 2 runs in the innings. Pakistan can't be happy for his bad performance. For that unhappiness, Shan Masood's perfect reply in this inning.
Yep, The fourth day of the second test game of series in which Pakistan are playing their second innings. It is very difficult for Pakistan to win this match because South Africa has scored 615 runs in the first innings itself and Pakistan cannot score 615 runs in two innings combined.  Even if they do South Africa still have the second innings in which they can score runs and easily win this match. Pakistan player's have scored 398 runs in 133 overs which they are scoring at a very slow pace as their 5 wickets have fallen. Pakistan effort is going pretty well they will score more runs in this innings and give South Africa a hard time. They are wrong to think that because they have a big margin of ahead of them which they are playing very hard to achieve.
In the first innings of the 2nd Test, Pakistan's score was very insignificant compared to South Africa, due to which they were far behind in the match, but they were able to quickly change their situation in the 2nd innings. They scored 417 runs for the loss of 6 wickets. A good partnership was made between Mohammad Rizwan and Salman Agha, but it did not last long. Mohammad Rizwan went back. Now if no big partnership is made, then Pakistan's score will not have a chance to increase. Due to which the chances of South Africa winning are very high. Pakistan has been able to show good skills only in ODI cricket in this tour, they have not won much against South Africa in other formats, but their cricketers have become very confident. It is hoped that they will be able to dominate well in other series.

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Really I am also thinking that at any time the Pakistan batsmen will collapse and they will loss by an innings. Even I am not confident that they can't even make any sort of lead. Still Pakistan trail by 150+ runs. A long way to go in this match.

Shah Masood is batting on 119 and it is a matter of time he gets out and the team collapses. I don't think that today is the day that he make 300 runs  😂.
If Pakistan's Shan Masood gets out then Pakistan will really lose by innings. Babar Azam contributed a bit with 81 runs but if no batsman can contribute later Pakistan may not be able to take the lead by runs. Kamran Ghulam was run out by  Rabada, meaning Pakistan was going through a crisis moment. Pakistan are trailing by 140 runs which means that if they don't build a big partnership later on then Pakistan will definitely be defeated by an innings margin.
Pakistani International test cricket team is in very bad condition because that team had lost 6 wickets in the second inning and they have only 4 wickets in the hand and Pakistani team is leading by 3 runs and I think Pakistani team will give target of 100 plus runs but that could be easy to chase .Agha should stay on the wicket been Pakistan team need him because Pakistani team want to draw this match and for the draw purpose,Agha  should be on the crease but that is not an easy task for that team. There are 90 percent chances of win of South African team because that team played excellent in the first inning and gave handsome target and after they did Pakistan all team out on only 194 runs.

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