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January 07, 2024, 05:56:11 AM
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For India, the next series is against England at home. Apart from Australia, none of the other teams are capable of challenging India at home, so I would say that India should get full points from this match. It is a long and extended series with 5 test matches spread out across three months. And for Australia, the next series is against New Zealand. The Kiwis are not in good form, but they always perform well when they are up against their arch-rivals. And at the moment, the gap between Australia and India is not that wide.
I would also like to agree with you on this point, I am also thinking that India is gonna be a good benefit from the upcoming England series. Because if we see the present England team then I have to say that they are now one of the weakest teams for India so if India can take full benefits of this series I think there is a chance for India place on the top.

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January 07, 2024, 06:23:25 AM
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Yeh you are right paksitani team were mostly in trouble especially in test series against Australia at thier home ground and the only guy who mostly punished Australian and put his team out of danger zone is baber Azam and we have seen some quality innings from him at previous test series too so if he manage to score decent then paksitan will be on a driving seat to be victorious but recently baber is going with one of his worst time and without his contribution none of our player can Handel Australian quality bowler.
Anyway paksitan lose his last match too and give a handsome gift to warner on his last match of his test career. I taught paksitan will give them tough time as still they have Rizwan and Jamal on crease at start of the day but unfortunately they unable to make any difference.

In this test inning, Rizwan didn't play well, he made just 28 runs and he was out by Lyon and Warner, Lyon took the ball and Warner took the catch of him.

It was the 8th wicket. Lyon gave the ball on the near of his pads but Rizwan rounded the bat to his Leg side and to this, the ball was gone at the slip and David Warner picked a beautiful catch, and by the way, this is the second last catch of David Warner's career. He took a wonderful catch, it was a diving catch but he picked it up without diving.

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January 07, 2024, 06:51:42 AM
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It was the 8th wicket. Lyon gave the ball on the near of his pads but Rizwan rounded the bat to his Leg side and to this, the ball was gone at the slip and David Warner picked a beautiful catch, and by the way, this is the second last catch of David Warner's career. He took a wonderful catch, it was a diving catch but he picked it up without diving.

David Warner was out by Sajid Khan, and it was the leg before the wicket, and when he was out Australian team needed just 11 runs to win, and in his last, he got a chance to finish but unfortunately, he missed it.

Sajid Khan gave the ball inside but David Warner thought it would go outside off but he was wrong, the ball came inside and hit on his pads but the umpire didn't give it out and if the umpire knew it out so the umpire also give it because we will never see him, but Shan Masood took the review and it was out. Sajid Khan led to the end of David Wanrer's era.

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January 07, 2024, 07:19:54 AM
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The point table is looking alright. Australia will strengthen their position, considering their next series is against Windies and then away series against NZ and SL. I guess they will fix their spot for the finals. For next spot fight should be between IND, NZ, and to some extent PAK if they manage to perform well.

For India, the next series is against England at home. Apart from Australia, none of the other teams are capable of challenging India at home, so I would say that India should get full points from this match. It is a long and extended series with 5 test matches spread out across three months. And for Australia, the next series is against New Zealand. The Kiwis are not in good form, but they always perform well when they are up against their arch-rivals. And at the moment, the gap between Australia and India is not that wide.
Securing full points against England won't be possible as Poms usually win at least 1 match in almost every tour and this time they are in fine form due to BAZBALL. They are not very skilled against spin so they will go ahead with attacking and at times brainless cricket, it could win them at least 1 match and if they get lucky then who knows? Having said that 3-1 in favor of India looks reasonable with 1 draw (because of flat track at 1 venue or weather).

~snip~
Whichever team ends up going through to the finals would gladly want India to end up on the other side because we all know how good they are at choking in major events these days.

Jokes aside, I feel that Australia will definitely secure a finals spot as you mentioned, but it's way too early to tell who will grab the other spot.
In English conditions our chances against any SENA country in a one-off test (finals) are slim. So yeah,  another choke might be on the cards. Not because we are weak but teams need some match practice to get used to the conditions. For SENA it's familiar conditions so it suits them more. The situation would be exactly the opposite if WTC finals are scheduled in the Subcontinent.


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January 07, 2024, 11:35:40 AM
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For India, the next series is against England at home. Apart from Australia, none of the other teams are capable of challenging India at home, so I would say that India should get full points from this match. It is a long and extended series with 5 test matches spread out across three months. And for Australia, the next series is against New Zealand. The Kiwis are not in good form, but they always perform well when they are up against their arch-rivals. And at the moment, the gap between Australia and India is not that wide.
I would also like to agree with you on this point, I am also thinking that India is gonna be a good benefit from the upcoming England series. Because if we see the present England team then I have to say that they are now one of the weakest teams for India so if India can take full benefits of this series I think there is a chance for India place on the top.

I agree with you the current England team is considered weak, and if India is capable of winning the series India will get this opportunity, In this situation, it's easy to defeat England. It's a chance for India to secure a top position. Best wishes for India.
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January 07, 2024, 01:13:09 PM
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In English conditions our chances against any SENA country in a one-off test (finals) are slim. So yeah,  another choke might be on the cards. Not because we are weak but teams need some match practice to get used to the conditions. For SENA it's familiar conditions so it suits them more. The situation would be exactly the opposite if WTC finals are scheduled in the Subcontinent.
India could still win the final in a SENA country if Ishant could play along with Bumrah, Shami, Ashwin and Siraj, but that won't happen since Ishant got old and Ashwin is getting sidelined.

On the other hand, the Indian spinners would have a field day if the final took place at home thanks to the slower pitches as you mentioned.

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January 07, 2024, 03:11:24 PM
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In English conditions our chances against any SENA country in a one-off test (finals) are slim. So yeah,  another choke might be on the cards. Not because we are weak but teams need some match practice to get used to the conditions. For SENA it's familiar conditions so it suits them more. The situation would be exactly the opposite if WTC finals are scheduled in the Subcontinent.


With the current Indian team, I doubt they could even secure a spot in the final but if the matches are played in home then its known that India can walk over the opponents and the opponents too blame that pitch is under prepared, for other tours the players are still very new and only very few played more than 10 matches in the current squad. If Indian team management don't want the Pujara and Rahane any more, then I doubt Indian batting lineup have experience to withstand seaming and bouncing conditions.

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In English conditions our chances against any SENA country in a one-off test (finals) are slim. So yeah,  another choke might be on the cards. Not because we are weak but teams need some match practice to get used to the conditions. For SENA it's familiar conditions so it suits them more. The situation would be exactly the opposite if WTC finals are scheduled in the Subcontinent.


With the current Indian team, I doubt they could even secure a spot in the final but if the matches are played in home then its known that India can walk over the opponents and the opponents too blame that pitch is under prepared, for other tours the players are still very new and only very few played more than 10 matches in the current squad. If Indian team management don't want the Pujara and Rahane any more, then I doubt Indian batting lineup have experience to withstand seaming and bouncing conditions.
Every team plays 3 home and 3 away series so everyone has an equal chance, although it does matter whom you are facing at home and away series. Even Australia is home track bully and they go into survival mode when they tour India. for context, they lost 4 back to back BGT series against India (home and away).

Indian usually plays against Aus, SA and Eng in almost every cycle so it comes down to home-away combinations. In the Subcontinent India is almost invincible and in the last decade, i don't remember them losing any series be it against SL or BAN or any SENA countries. Standards are so high that drawing a match against any team attracts a lot of criticism.

Pitch talk only happens because the opposition team never comes with quality spinners, in contrast, when India tours any SENA country they pack their squad with quality seamers, and one of the reasons they are only successful touring team in the last 7-8 years.

Not sure about Rahane but i believe Pujara's services are much needed in Australia. He's kryptonite to Aussies on their home turf.

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On the other hand, the Indian spinners would have a field day if the final took place at home thanks to the slower pitches as you mentioned.
Dare to say but even all-time SENA XI can't tackle the Indian spinners at home. Even Indian batters can't handle Jaddu-Ashwin-Axar-Kuldeep unless we are adding Indian Fab-5 (Sachin-Viru-Dravid-Gangully-Laxman)

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Not sure about Rahane but i believe Pujara's services are much needed in Australia. He's kryptonite to Aussies on their home turf.

I am not sure whether Cheteshwar Pujara will ever get selected to the Indian test team again. By the time of the next test series for India, he will be 36 years old and he last played for India 8 months back. Currently he is playing for Saurashtra in Indian domestic cricket, and today he scored an unbeaten 243 versus Jharkhand. And this was against a bowling attack that comprised of experienced players such as Shahbaz Nadeem and Anukul Roy. Ajinkya Rahane is also playing first class cricket for Mumbai, but he is in very poor form for the last few months.

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Better fielding is more important than batting and bowling. A bowler bowled well but the fielders did not take the catch or did not field well due to which the confidence of the bowlers went down a bit which resulted in them not playing the ball in the right place later on. Pakistan finished the game quickly where the Test is a 5-day game. It was not easy for Pakistan to play against Australia on Australian soil, I admit it but Pakistan is one of the big teams and they must do well in the away series. A good performance at home is worthless if the visiting team can't do well against the opposition. Pakistan could not perform well against Australia on Australian soil, rather their performance has worsened.

Pakistan performance at there home soil is also not very encouraging and when it comes to playing test series at Australia its worse. I checked espncricinfo and find out that last time Pakistan won a test match in Australia was way back in 1995, since then its a dry period for Pakistan. First innings of last test gave some hope but it was shattered when Pakistan came to bat in second innings. Another whitewash at Australia, its nothing new.
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Not sure about Rahane but i believe Pujara's services are much needed in Australia. He's kryptonite to Aussies on their home turf.

Yeah, he is. But so far how Pujara reacted for not selecting in SA series it clearly means something is going on behind the scenes and they will just blame his last two-year poor performance as a reason to not select him. It's not particularly about Pujara alone but forming a whole set of batting unit for the test matches and India is capable of doing that than any other team but still they want to go with IPL stars with all kind of format in the international arena.

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David Warner was out by Sajid Khan, and it was the leg before the wicket, and when he was out Australian team needed just 11 runs to win, and in his last, he got a chance to finish but unfortunately, he missed it.

Sajid Khan gave the ball inside but David Warner thought it would go outside off but he was wrong, the ball came inside and hit on his pads but the umpire didn't give it out and if the umpire knew it out so the umpire also give it because we will never see him, but Shan Masood took the review and it was out. Sajid Khan led to the end of David Wanrer's era.

Warner has last series but also the luckiest series of his career where he was dropped so many times by Pakistani fielders. You cant win a test match match if you regularly drop catches of key players. Pakistan was in this series without its key fast bowlers like Haris Rauf and Naseem Shah while Shaheen Shah got unfit in last match. I wrote earlier that Australia is not a place where you try your new bowlers or batsmen.
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Better fielding is more important than batting and bowling. A bowler bowled well but the fielders did not take the catch or did not field well due to which the confidence of the bowlers went down a bit which resulted in them not playing the ball in the right place later on. Pakistan finished the game quickly where the Test is a 5-day game. It was not easy for Pakistan to play against Australia on Australian soil, I admit it but Pakistan is one of the big teams and they must do well in the away series. A good performance at home is worthless if the visiting team can't do well against the opposition. Pakistan could not perform well against Australia on Australian soil, rather their performance has worsened.

I think Batting, Bowling, and fielding all 3 of them have the same importance. But I will agree with you that bad fielding makes the confidence of the bowlers go down. But in test matches, the bowlers can barely create chances and if the fielders drop it, it hurts them a lot. You cannot let someone like Warner get 2-3 chances in 3 test matches. But I think the fielding problem can be fixed within a short time.

The long time problem is that their batting.
Literally, none of them are reliable right now except Rizwan. Literally, none of them scores runs consistently. Shan Masood scored a few 50s and he looks a bit reliable. Salman Agha got talents but he lacks consistency, Saud Shakeel also the same. Abdullah Shafique, Imam ul Haque are also the same.

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Warner has last series but also the luckiest series of his career where he was dropped so many times by Pakistani fielders. You cant win a test match match if you regularly drop catches of key players. Pakistan was in this series without its key fast bowlers like Haris Rauf and Naseem Shah while Shaheen Shah got unfit in last match. I wrote earlier that Australia is not a place where you try your new bowlers or batsmen.
Many of their team members were selected thanks to political interference which is one of the reasons why they underperformed in this test series. Am happy they dropped Warner again and again because that legend deserved a 50 in his final test and ODI.

Am just happy that we will still get to see him play in the T20 format and franchise leagues.

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Warner has last series but also the luckiest series of his career where he was dropped so many times by Pakistani fielders. You cant win a test match match if you regularly drop catches of key players. Pakistan was in this series without its key fast bowlers like Haris Rauf and Naseem Shah while Shaheen Shah got unfit in last match. I wrote earlier that Australia is not a place where you try your new bowlers or batsmen.
Yes ,I agree with you. Warner is best player of the World for all formats. His performance was very excellent in last World Cup 2023. I didn't see that kind of player who played centuries like  David Warner. Labuschagne performance is also brilliant,he is one of the best players in the World and his performance is top class and he will be at 1 rank in few matches.He made 60 runs in first inning of match and he made 62 runs in 2nd inning of match.  Pakistani Test International team performance is very poor. And it has to change its attitude to win against big teams.

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Better fielding is more important than batting and bowling. A bowler bowled well but the fielders did not take the catch or did not field well due to which the confidence of the bowlers went down a bit which resulted in them not playing the ball in the right place later on. Pakistan finished the game quickly where the Test is a 5-day game. It was not easy for Pakistan to play against Australia on Australian soil, I admit it but Pakistan is one of the big teams and they must do well in the away series. A good performance at home is worthless if the visiting team can't do well against the opposition. Pakistan could not perform well against Australia on Australian soil, rather their performance has worsened.

Today's test match was the last test match for David Warner, and in his last International and test match, he created a half-century and after this match, Usman Khawaja will open with a new partner in further matches.

When David Wanrer came to the bat so before coming into the ground he touched the frame of Phillips Hughes who died because of the bouncer in 2014, and he was the best friend of David Warner. This is the last match of one of the best David Warner eras, and in his last match, he was out by a Pakistani spinner, and he knew it was out but review was taken, anyways he knew it was the last match of his.
Today 3 rd last game of this test series was concluded anf this game was won Australia team. In 1 st inning of Pakistan team scored 313 runs and entire team was dismissed and Australia team in 1 st inning was scored 299 runs and Pakistan team lead by 14 runs only and this was good thing but in 2 nd inning, Pakistan team effort was very poor and scored only 115 runs and this was very small target for any team of cricket. Just losing 2 wickets Australia team chase down all target. Player of series award credited to P.Cummins. This bowler took down five wickets in 1 st inning and in 2 nd inning this bowler took down 1 wicket and total 6 wickets he took down.

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Warner has last series but also the luckiest series of his career where he was dropped so many times by Pakistani fielders. You cant win a test match match if you regularly drop catches of key players. Pakistan was in this series without its key fast bowlers like Haris Rauf and Naseem Shah while Shaheen Shah got unfit in last match. I wrote earlier that Australia is not a place where you try your new bowlers or batsmen.
Yes ,I agree with you. Warner is best player of the World for all formats. His performance was very excellent in last World Cup 2023. I didn't see that kind of player who played centuries like  David Warner. Labuschagne performance is also brilliant,he is one of the best players in the World and his performance is top class and he will be at 1 rank in few matches.He made 60 runs in first inning of match and he made 62 runs in 2nd inning of match.  Pakistani Test International team performance is very poor. And it has to change its attitude to win against big teams.
David Warner was definitely the best opener for Australia. The Australian batsman's ability to play in Test ODI and T23 format was excellent. He retired from Test cricket while in form and there are rumors that he will start his next career as a team coach. However, he has said that he will become a coach only if his wife allows him to become a coach. As much as David Warner has excelled in his career as a player, he will excel in his career as a coach. If he chooses coaching career then maybe Australia team can keep him as batting coach or as assistant coach but it's a matter of time before he has to decide to get license before he can take charge of a team.
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David Warner was definitely the best opener for Australia. The Australian batsman's ability to play in Test ODI and T23 format was excellent. He retired from Test cricket while in form and there are rumors that he will start his next career as a team coach. However, he has said that he will become a coach only if his wife allows him to become a coach. As much as David Warner has excelled in his career as a player, he will excel in his career as a coach. If he chooses coaching career then maybe Australia team can keep him as batting coach or as assistant coach but it's a matter of time before he has to decide to get license before he can take charge of a team.

Warner has retired from Test and ODI but will continue to play T20 cricket, as per my knowledge. He is no doubt one of the greatest opening batsmen produced in the history that can play test, ODI and T20 format. He play test as genuine test player while in T20I he is a solid hitter like a young player. Aussies have a good domestic setup and they will produce some other great opener to replace Warner.
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January 08, 2024, 09:20:27 AM
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Better fielding is more important than batting and bowling. A bowler bowled well but the fielders did not take the catch or did not field well due to which the confidence of the bowlers went down a bit which resulted in them not playing the ball in the right place later on. Pakistan finished the game quickly where the Test is a 5-day game. It was not easy for Pakistan to play against Australia on Australian soil, I admit it but Pakistan is one of the big teams and they must do well in the away series. A good performance at home is worthless if the visiting team can't do well against the opposition. Pakistan could not perform well against Australia on Australian soil, rather their performance has worsened.

Today's test match was the last test match for David Warner, and in his last International and test match, he created a half-century and after this match, Usman Khawaja will open with a new partner in further matches.

When David Wanrer came to the bat so before coming into the ground he touched the frame of Phillips Hughes who died because of the bouncer in 2014, and he was the best friend of David Warner. This is the last match of one of the best David Warner eras, and in his last match, he was out by a Pakistani spinner, and he knew it was out but review was taken, anyways he knew it was the last match of his.
Today 3 rd last game of this test series was concluded anf this game was won Australia team. In 1 st inning of Pakistan team scored 313 runs and entire team was dismissed and Australia team in 1 st inning was scored 299 runs and Pakistan team lead by 14 runs only and this was good thing but in 2 nd inning, Pakistan team effort was very poor and scored only 115 runs and this was very small target for any team of cricket. Just losing 2 wickets Australia team chase down all target. Player of series award credited to P.Cummins. This bowler took down five wickets in 1 st inning and in 2 nd inning this bowler took down 1 wicket and total 6 wickets he took down.
You are right because Pakistan batted brilliantly in the first innings in the third Test to give Australia a big lead. But in the second innings of the Pakistan team, I also saw their batting failure. Due to their batting failure, the Pakistan team collapsed by very few runs. In the second innings of the third test match, the Australian team won very easily by batting on a target of very few runs. Since the first test match against Australia, Pakistan has not been able to perform very well, most of which is their batting failure. Due to Pakistan's bowling in the first innings of the first Test, Australia is targeting Pakistan for big runs. Having seen Pakistan's batting disaster in the three Test matches against Australia, if Pakistan wants to do better in the future, they must focus on their batting otherwise it will be one bad performance after another.

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January 08, 2024, 09:46:13 AM
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Warner has retired from Test and ODI but will continue to play T20 cricket, as per my knowledge. He is no doubt one of the greatest opening batsmen produced in the history that can play test, ODI and T20 format. He play test as genuine test player while in T20I he is a solid hitter like a young player. Aussies have a good domestic setup and they will produce some other great opener to replace Warner.

I was not aware that he has retired from the ODI format, he will now focus on league cricket. Since T20 is a short format retired players can play without any issue. MSD is still playing league cricket after he retired from all formats of cricket. Yes, he is undoubtedly one of the best opening batters that Australia has produced the good thing was that he was part of the World Cup winning team. He might be replaced by Marcus Harris that is what is being said by the Australian media.
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