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February 01, 2024, 05:31:01 AM
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I agree about Mohammad Siraj because they have few choices which can bat well and also able to bowl 10 to 15 overs without any problem but here now we have to understand selectors were too much overconfident about their team, and they were also taking England very lightly which bring them down at this level, and they faced this unexpected defeat in this first test match only Bumrah were enough for the bowling and any batting all-rounder can bring better result.

In batting Virat Kohli's absence is also hurting badly with things could be more troubled in coming match as they will miss KL Rahul and now voices are rising about Gill's spot in test as well because he consistently fails in this format which is also problem so now they have to do things carefully.

Main reason is India took English team very light specially after they bowled out England for 246 and got 190 runs lead in first innings. Credit goes to England batting who fought hard in second innings and gave a target of 230 runs and this give some hope to there bowling lineup.
I don't think it's because of Kohli absence because same batting scored 436 runs in first innings and were bowled out for 202 runs in second innings. Its mainly due to irresponsible behaviour from top batting lineup.
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February 01, 2024, 05:39:38 AM
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It was a tactical blunder to include Siraj in the first test. Not only did he failed to contribute, but also his presence increased the workload on the spinners (Ravichandran Ashwin, Ravindra Jadeja and Axar Patel). And this is one of the reasons why Jadeja got injured and had to be ruled out of the second test. England did the right thing, by including just Mark Wood as the pacer. When you are preparing a track that is tailor-made for the spinners, I don't understand the point in including two pacers in the bowling lineup.

India's bowling was never an issue and Shiraj's presence does help Bhumrah. The problem was batting and that Indian batters went into defensive mode in the second innings, creating pressure for themselves. Hartley had a great day as I cannot say he was lucky, but he was bowling on the exact spot where he needed to get that edge. I might say that England was lucky on the 4th day as no one expected them to win, It was similar to what happened with Australia at the Gabba.

 

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India's bowling was never an issue and Shiraj's presence does help Bhumrah. The problem was batting and that Indian batters went into defensive mode in the second innings, creating pressure for themselves. Hartley had a great day as I cannot say he was lucky, but he was bowling on the exact spot where he needed to get that edge. I might say that England was lucky on the 4th day as no one expected them to win, It was similar to what happened with Australia at the Gabba.


Yes right India's batting line was very bad in second innings compared to first innings maybe they were under stress for which they gave poor batting performance.Anyone who understands cricket will tell you that one of the reasons India lost the first Test match was impatient batting.

Anyway in the second test match India will play well and try to win. Most of India's new players have been added to the squad for the second Test match with experienced Rohit Sharma, Ravichandran Ashwin, Shreyas Iyer, Shubman Gill, Srikar Bharat. All of them have to bat well in the second test match then the Indian team will be able to win the second test match.

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The squad played for India has complete batsmen upto no.9 who can play the authentic test cricket which including 3 best of current all rounders that gave the convenience of having two proper pacers who may need to do the job if the spin is not working as expected but it's not Siraj fault but he haven't been utilised properly so he totally bowled around 10 overs in both the innings.

Personally I prefer Siraj to play because his agression is positive thing to have in test format and you know what I am saying if you're a fan of test cricket when Kohli was the captain.

It was a tactical blunder to include Siraj in the first test. Not only did he failed to contribute, but also his presence increased the workload on the spinners (Ravichandran Ashwin, Ravindra Jadeja and Axar Patel). And this is one of the reasons why Jadeja got injured and had to be ruled out of the second test. England did the right thing, by including just Mark Wood as the pacer. When you are preparing a track that is tailor-made for the spinners, I don't understand the point in including two pacers in the bowling lineup.

I don't think it was that much of a bad decision, to be honest. It was like 50/50. If it worked out well, it would have been great.

But the thing is it didn't work out for India. So we are saying that it was a very bad decision. It does look to be a very bad decision on paper right now. Was there a chance to pick another player? Of course, there was. But picking Muhammad Siraj was not a very bad decision in my opinion. He is of course a decent player. But in this test match, he was just unable to have a good impact.

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February 01, 2024, 07:53:30 AM
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The squad played for India has complete batsmen upto no.9 who can play the authentic test cricket which including 3 best of current all rounders that gave the convenience of having two proper pacers who may need to do the job if the spin is not working as expected but it's not Siraj fault but he haven't been utilised properly so he totally bowled around 10 overs in both the innings.

Personally I prefer Siraj to play because his agression is positive thing to have in test format and you know what I am saying if you're a fan of test cricket when Kohli was the captain.

It was a tactical blunder to include Siraj in the first test. Not only did he failed to contribute, but also his presence increased the workload on the spinners (Ravichandran Ashwin, Ravindra Jadeja and Axar Patel). And this is one of the reasons why Jadeja got injured and had to be ruled out of the second test. England did the right thing, by including just Mark Wood as the pacer. When you are preparing a track that is tailor-made for the spinners, I don't understand the point in including two pacers in the bowling lineup.

Jadeja injured while he was batting and he bowled around 30 overs in the previous day which can't be an issue in terms of workload. One pace attack is never needed when 3 of your spinners is complete batsmen. Mark wood struggled and he did nothing because of the one pace attack and this pitch is traditional sub continent pitch not a complete turner that is why you saw Bumrah got more wickets in 3rd innings.

The second test will be really crucial for India and it is going to be challenging because Kohli, Jaddu, KL will not be playing and Gill and Iyer is completely out of form so who is going to play the long innings?

India should understand the importance of pujara and Rahane like players now. Atleast the replacement players is in good form hope they will play instead of Iyer and Gill or it's a big gamble.

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February 01, 2024, 07:56:05 AM
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The squad played for India has complete batsmen upto no.9 who can play the authentic test cricket which including 3 best of current all rounders that gave the convenience of having two proper pacers who may need to do the job if the spin is not working as expected but it's not Siraj fault but he haven't been utilised properly so he totally bowled around 10 overs in both the innings.

Personally I prefer Siraj to play because his agression is positive thing to have in test format and you know what I am saying if you're a fan of test cricket when Kohli was the captain.

It was a tactical blunder to include Siraj in the first test. Not only did he failed to contribute, but also his presence increased the workload on the spinners (Ravichandran Ashwin, Ravindra Jadeja and Axar Patel). And this is one of the reasons why Jadeja got injured and had to be ruled out of the second test. England did the right thing, by including just Mark Wood as the pacer. When you are preparing a track that is tailor-made for the spinners, I don't understand the point in including two pacers in the bowling lineup.

Siraj didn't do anything that costed India the match, it wasn't his day and didn't get any wicket but it was alright, it was largely batters fault and had India won the test we wouldn't be arguing about Siraj here at all. You can argue same about Bumrah too that his place could have been also offered to spinners but you don't cause he took wickets. Had Siraj was the one who got wicket and Bumrah came out empty ended, I'm sure you would be saying Bumrah's spot was waste.

I don't think you can blame Siraj for Jadeja's injury either, these things just happen, look at KL Rahul, he was included in squad as sole batter, he had no wicket keeping duty in the game, yet he was injured.

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~snip`.

Siraj didn't do anything that costed India the match, it wasn't his day and didn't get any wicket but it was alright, it was largely batters fault and had India won the test we wouldn't be arguing about Siraj here at all. You can argue same about Bumrah too that his place could have been also offered to spinners but you don't cause he took wickets. Had Siraj was the one who got wicket and Bumrah came out empty ended, I'm sure you would be saying Bumrah's spot was waste.

I don't think you can blame Siraj for Jadeja's injury either, these things just happen, look at KL Rahul, he was included in squad as sole batter, he had no wicket keeping duty in the game, yet he was injured.
True, in hindsight, one can argue many reasons for the defeat but the main reason was a timid approach from the Indians. India has won plenty of matches where 2-3 bowlers were underbowled be it seamer or even in some cases spinners.

- Poor and defensive captaincy from Rohit.
- Batters throwing away their wickets in the first inning, we shouldn't forget 5 batters got out slogging. When you score 80 ish runs then batters should target for daddy 100s and not throw away wickets and in the second inning they went into shells.
- for a change Likes of Ashwin-Jadeja-Axar got outplayed by Pope. Poor fielding and bad captaincy did play a major part but there is no shame in accepting that they were outplayed and that's why test cricket is tough.


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February 01, 2024, 09:24:21 AM
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- Poor and defensive captaincy from Rohit.
- Batters throwing away their wickets in the first inning, we shouldn't forget 5 batters got out slogging. When you score 80 ish runs then batters should target for daddy 100s and not throw away wickets and in the second inning they went into shells.

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In the first Test, Rohit Sharma's poor captaincy and the complete failure of the top order batsmen lost the first match but if the same performance is observed in this match, India will turn out to be a poor team.

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February 01, 2024, 09:52:12 AM
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The second test match of India vs England will start tomorrow. The England team has done amazing batting and bowling in the second innings of the first test match. Due to which England won by 28 runs in the first Test match. So the match in the second test will definitely be a very tight game between the two opponents. India will definitely try to play their best after the batting failure in the second innings against England, definitely the Indian management and Indian players will want to give their best performance in the second test match. On the other hand, England are very confident after winning the first test match and they will try to play their best in the second test match as well. Of course, the players of the England team have understood that if they want to win against India, they must bowl and bat well, otherwise they will not be able to win against India. I think we will see a thrilling test match tomorrow, both opponents are expected to play very well. Best wishes to both teams.

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February 01, 2024, 01:13:31 PM
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In the first Test, Rohit Sharma's poor captaincy and the complete failure of the top order batsmen lost the first match but if the same performance is observed in this match, India will turn out to be a poor team.
Y'all are being too hard on Rohit here. No captain is perfect and Rohit definitely isn't the best Indian test captain or anything, but he is still pretty reliable thanks to his experience in all formats.

I think we will see a thrilling test match tomorrow, both opponents are expected to play very well. Best wishes to both teams.
Am expecting the reverse which is India will probably comfortably defeat England since they are really good at bouncing back from losses.

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February 01, 2024, 01:22:41 PM
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I agree about Mohammad Siraj because they have few choices which can bat well and also able to bowl 10 to 15 overs without any problem but here now we have to understand selectors were too much overconfident about their team, and they were also taking England very lightly which bring them down at this level, and they faced this unexpected defeat in this first test match only Bumrah were enough for the bowling and any batting all-rounder can bring better result.

In batting Virat Kohli's absence is also hurting badly with things could be more troubled in coming match as they will miss KL Rahul and now voices are rising about Gill's spot in test as well because he consistently fails in this format which is also problem so now they have to do things carefully.

Main reason is India took English team very light specially after they bowled out England for 246 and got 190 runs lead in first innings. Credit goes to England batting who fought hard in second innings and gave a target of 230 runs and this give some hope to there bowling lineup.
I don't think it's because of Kohli absence because same batting scored 436 runs in first innings and were bowled out for 202 runs in second innings. Its mainly due to irresponsible behaviour from top batting lineup.
I just want to say one thing "When you are winning there are many fathers but when you are losing there are none" while India were winning all were going ok but suddenly as they lost their first test match now we have many reasons even few are talking about captaincy of the Rohit Sharma but I believe this was tactical defeat or wake up call for them as they are still need more hard work for this format in near future because just performing good in white-ball not mean you can do all good in all three formats.
Batting is serious concern as Kohli is not available and now Rahul and Jadeja both also gone even I believe they will fight back but they have to give their best for having win in remaining test matches of this series for the win.

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February 01, 2024, 01:28:36 PM
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The second test match of India vs England will start tomorrow. The England team has done amazing batting and bowling in the second innings of the first test match. Due to which England won by 28 runs in the first Test match. So the match in the second test will definitely be a very tight game between the two opponents. India will definitely try to play their best after the batting failure in the second innings against England, definitely the Indian management and Indian players will want to give their best performance in the second test match. On the other hand, England are very confident after winning the first test match and they will try to play their best in the second test match as well. Of course, the players of the England team have understood that if they want to win against India, they must bowl and bat well, otherwise they will not be able to win against India. I think we will see a thrilling test match tomorrow, both opponents are expected to play very well. Best wishes to both teams.
Despite a good start in the first test match, hosts India were eventually defeated by England. Although defeated in the first match, Team India will definitely enter the field as the favorite team with the expectation of winning again in the second match. Virat Kohli and KL Rahul are injured, Sarfaraz Khan can be included in the team. The cricketer has plenty of experience playing in the red ball domestic league and Team India might rely on him in the upcoming matches. Since the team is missing some important players including Virat Kohli, all the other players in the team must take the big responsibility because if all the other players cannot take the big responsibility then it will be very difficult for the Indian batsmen to face the England bowlers.
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February 01, 2024, 01:38:08 PM
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In the first Test, Rohit Sharma's poor captaincy and the complete failure of the top order batsmen lost the first match but if the same performance is observed in this match, India will turn out to be a poor team.
Y'all are being too hard on Rohit here. No captain is perfect and Rohit definitely isn't the best Indian test captain or anything, but he is still pretty reliable thanks to his experience in all formats.

I think we will see a thrilling test match tomorrow, both opponents are expected to play very well. Best wishes to both teams.
Am expecting the reverse which is India will probably comfortably defeat England since they are really good at bouncing back from losses.
I am definitely expecting India to perform well in the second test match against England and there is a high probability that India will win the second test match. As India lost the first Test match against England, Indian batsmen and bowlers are expected to perform very well. India have some great batsmen if they can bat well will surely give England a big lead. And if India's bowlers can bowl controlled, it will definitely put pressure on England's batsmen. Let's see how well India can perform against England in the end.

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Virat Kohli and KL Rahul are injured, Sarfaraz Khan can be included in the team. The cricketer has plenty of experience playing in the red ball domestic league and Team India might rely on him in the upcoming matches. Since the team is missing some important players including Virat Kohli, all the other players in the team must take the big responsibility because if all the other players cannot take the big responsibility then it will be very difficult for the Indian batsmen to face the England bowlers.
Your mistake is Virat Kohli is not injured he won't be able to play few test matches due to family reasons. However, India's second Test match squad is weaker than India's first Test match. The first Test match had great players like KL Rahul and Ravindra Jadeja but they were ruled out of the second Test due to injuries. New and inexperienced players may be given a chance in their place. As England have already won one match in the five-match Test series, they are leading by one nil. India need to win the second Test to level the series.

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February 01, 2024, 01:57:48 PM
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I just want to say one thing "When you are winning there are many fathers but when you are losing there are none" while India were winning all were going ok but suddenly as they lost their first test match now we have many reasons even few are talking about captaincy of the Rohit Sharma but I believe this was tactical defeat or wake up call for them as they are still need more hard work for this format in near future because just performing good in white-ball not mean you can do all good in all three formats.
Batting is serious concern as Kohli is not available and now Rahul and Jadeja both also gone even I believe they will fight back but they have to give their best for having win in remaining test matches of this series for the win.

Defiantly there are critics when you lose and you have to look for mistakes you have made. If you don't pay attention to your mistakes, you will keep repeating them. Still 4 test left in this series and there is time for Indian to make come back in the series.

There is only test match that will be played tomorrow between Afghanistan and Srilanka. We have already seen two upsets on same day where England and West Indies besting big giants. Sri Lanka need to be very careful and must not take Afghanistan lightly otherwise we might see another upset.
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February 01, 2024, 02:03:16 PM
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There is only test match that will be played tomorrow between Afghanistan and Srilanka. We have already seen two upsets on same day where England and West Indies besting big giants. Sri Lanka need to be very careful and must not take Afghanistan lightly otherwise we might see another upset.

Tomorrow is the first tour match between Afghanistan and Sri Lanka and this tour match will play in the form of a Test match, and you can say that it's an exhibition match.

However, let's search on the Afghanistan squad and Sri Lankan team squad so both teams had the poorest squad. Naveen Ul Haq, and Fazal Al Farooqi was the main player but Naveen Ul Haq retired from ODI cricket at the age of under 24 and this retirement took by him by Afghanistan cricket board he did something wrong in the board that's why their board forced to them to retire and Fazal had also same situation but he had banned for three years.

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February 01, 2024, 04:09:24 PM
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There is only test match that will be played tomorrow between Afghanistan and Srilanka. We have already seen two upsets on same day where England and West Indies besting big giants. Sri Lanka need to be very careful and must not take Afghanistan lightly otherwise we might see another upset.
Tomorrow is the first tour match between Afghanistan and Sri Lanka and this tour match will play in the form of a Test match, and you can say that it's an exhibition match.

However, let's search on the Afghanistan squad and Sri Lankan team squad so both teams had the poorest squad. Naveen Ul Haq, and Fazal Al Farooqi was the main player but Naveen Ul Haq retired from ODI cricket at the age of under 24 and this retirement took by him by Afghanistan cricket board he did something wrong in the board that's why their board forced to them to retire and Fazal had also same situation but he had banned for three years.
It's not exhibition of tour match we are going to have three matches tomorrow with Australia vs West Indies first ODI then India vs England second test of this series and Sri Lanka vs Afghanistan only test match between these two teams even on papers it's not ideal match but still we can expect some good from Afghanistan which is coming under the captaincy of Shahidi.

Most of the players are new and have no experience which is surely problem but still a good deal for them as now they are going to play a test match after long time with Sri Lanka is also going for their new generation players with few old players are also going to have place in this match.

Mostly Afghanistan players are following West Indian team for staying into white-ball format and having no intention of playing test matches and for the national team which is surely going to be problem for them in the future.

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February 01, 2024, 04:23:12 PM
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I am definitely expecting India to perform well in the second test match against England and there is a high probability that India will win the second test match. As India lost the first Test match against England, Indian batsmen and bowlers are expected to perform very well. India have some great batsmen if they can bat well will surely give England a big lead. And if India's bowlers can bowl controlled, it will definitely put pressure on England's batsmen. Let's see how well India can perform against England in the end.

The third test match is between India and England but it is on A teams and this match starts from tomorrow and it will go on for 5 days as usual, and this match is played at Ahmedabad, and at this time, the Indian team playing very well, they didn't lose any wickets in the first 50 overs and in the first 50 overs, they crossed almost 200.
They played very well in their home country and if this type of play the Indian original team did in the current matches against England's original team so they won that match.

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February 01, 2024, 05:37:48 PM
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The third test match is between India and England but it is on A teams and this match starts from tomorrow and it will go on for 5 days as usual, and this match is played at Ahmedabad, and at this time, the Indian team playing very well, they didn't lose any wickets in the first 50 overs and in the first 50 overs, they crossed almost 200.
They played very well in their home country and if this type of play the Indian original team did in the current matches against England's original team so they won that match.
@synchronym was clearly talking about the ongoing India-England test series and not the lower league series that you are talking about which is why I have no idea why you posted about some other match in this context.

Tip: Read the posts thoroughly before replying since it looks like you are just spamming frankly speaking.

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February 01, 2024, 05:43:58 PM
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I am definitely expecting India to perform well in the second test match against England and there is a high probability that India will win the second test match. As India lost the first Test match against England, Indian batsmen and bowlers are expected to perform very well. India have some great batsmen if they can bat well will surely give England a big lead. And if India's bowlers can bowl controlled, it will definitely put pressure on England's batsmen. Let's see how well India can perform against England in the end.

The third test match is between India and England but it is on A teams and this match starts from tomorrow and it will go on for 5 days as usual, and this match is played at Ahmedabad, and at this time, the Indian team playing very well, they didn't lose any wickets in the first 50 overs and in the first 50 overs, they crossed almost 200.
They played very well in their home country and if this type of play the Indian original team did in the current matches against England's original team so they won that match.

Well I believe the Indian team has been facing enough criticism and they will look to fix the problems that they had in the last match. Which is honestly just taking things seriously till the end in my opinion. Because other than that I don't think there was any other reason to actually lose their match for India. I also believe it is going to be very hard for England to actually win the next match. Because India is going to be on  their best performance. But I hope that the next match is also going to be competitive. Because I hate watching it just match being drawn after 5 days of play.

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