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May 20, 2024, 05:22:07 PM
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I think Pakistani Women International ODI cricket team can't improve because in Pakistani, mostly parents didn't want her daughter to play cricket. They want her daughter in the house where she will serve her husband and family. Pakistani Women International ODI cricket team is not much stronger to play against big teams like England, Australia and India. If Pakistan wants change in cricket history,they should give freedom to the women in Pakistan. In England, Europe and in many other countries, women can practice easily and no one will demotivate her but in Pakistan that is opposite and that's why Pakistani International Women cricket team is unsuccessful in cricket.

That's quite right that there are cultural barriers in Pakistan due to which not many women enter the field of cricket despite having interest and potential for playing cricket. It's responsibility of PCB to provide necessary training to available players so that they can compete against SENA teams. It looks like PCB is not much interested in improving women cricket since it can't generate much revenue for the board.
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May 20, 2024, 05:43:11 PM
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Pakistan Women vs England Women ODI Series

As we know that Pakistan Women and England Women both are playing T20I series at this time and today is the last match of this series. And we know that England Women team is much stronger as compare to the Pakistan women team. And they have won two matches and the series too.
So after this series they will play the ODI series. Which will start from 23rd May. So the format eill br changed do may be Pakistan will perform well. But we can't say anything at this time. So let's wait for the 23rd. Smiley

Now, it is officially announced that once again that Nida Dar will lead the Pakistan team in the ODI series as she led the team in T20 series and lost them all. She did not played good and even sometimes poor, but here is not that she is the alone worrier of the team, there are also good players but they didn’t perform as well as we needed.

However, for this poor captaincy, the PCB talks that the captain could be replaced and today is the day when the PCB announced that nothing surprises, Nida Dar will lead the team in ODI series. That was just the rumours that the captain would be changed. I think that the Pakistan women's team doesn't have any player who is more experienced than here.

Pakistan cricket board should understand why the Pakistan cricket team, I am talking about the Pakistan women’s cricket team, is not doing well enough. They simply do not have enough experience. when it comes to the shortest format of cricket, they also do not have any kind of firepower as well.

it is very easy to feel pressured and make some decisions in a hurry. But I think they should give the women’s team a little more time. they should not make these changes like changing the captain or similar kind of changes very quickly. Because that is eventually not going to give the team enough time to actually settle. We all know that a squad gets better when they play with each other for a long period of time. And remember, them playing against big opponents consistently is going to help them learn.

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May 21, 2024, 01:46:50 AM
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Pakistan cricket board should understand why the Pakistan cricket team, I am talking about the Pakistan women’s cricket team, is not doing well enough. They simply do not have enough experience. when it comes to the shortest format of cricket, they also do not have any kind of firepower as well.

it is very easy to feel pressured and make some decisions in a hurry. But I think they should give the women’s team a little more time. they should not make these changes like changing the captain or similar kind of changes very quickly. Because that is eventually not going to give the team enough time to actually settle. We all know that a squad gets better when they play with each other for a long period of time. And remember, them playing against big opponents consistently is going to help them learn.

You are saying the Pakistan women cricket team is not playing well. But I will say Men Cricket team performance is also not admirable. Recently you see how they played against Ireland team. It means on both teams Men and Women cricket teams Pakistan Cricket Board needs to focus. The condition of Pakistan Women team is more worse as compare to Men team. Like we can see that they have lost two consecutive T20I series one from West Indies Women team and second is from England Women team. I hope they will do well in ODI format but chances are rare. So let's wait for series start.

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May 21, 2024, 03:36:38 PM
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Now, it is officially announced that once again that Nida Dar will lead the Pakistan team in the ODI series as she led the team in T20 series and lost them all. She did not played good and even sometimes poor, but here is not that she is the alone worrier of the team, there are also good players but they didn’t perform as well as we needed.

However, for this poor captaincy, the PCB talks that the captain could be replaced and today is the day when the PCB announced that nothing surprises, Nida Dar will lead the team in ODI series. That was just the rumours that the captain would be changed. I think that the Pakistan women's team doesn't have any player who is more experienced than here.

Honestly, I wasn't expecting much from the Pakistan women's team. Apart from a handful of players, others doesn't have any experience of playing under SENA conditions. And as far as infrastructure and domestic setup is concerned, England is miles ahead of Pakistan. England has a well set domestic system and they have the women's Hundred. On the other hand, Pakistan doesn't even have a proper first class competition for women and they are still debating whether they need the women's PSL.

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May 21, 2024, 05:20:38 PM
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Pakistan cricket board should understand why the Pakistan cricket team, I am talking about the Pakistan women’s cricket team, is not doing well enough. They simply do not have enough experience. when it comes to the shortest format of cricket, they also do not have any kind of firepower as well.

it is very easy to feel pressured and make some decisions in a hurry. But I think they should give the women’s team a little more time. they should not make these changes like changing the captain or similar kind of changes very quickly. Because that is eventually not going to give the team enough time to actually settle. We all know that a squad gets better when they play with each other for a long period of time. And remember, them playing against big opponents consistently is going to help them learn.

You are saying the Pakistan women cricket team is not playing well. But I will say Men Cricket team performance is also not admirable. Recently you see how they played against Ireland team. It means on both teams Men and Women cricket teams Pakistan Cricket Board needs to focus. The condition of Pakistan Women team is more worse as compare to Men team. Like we can see that they have lost two consecutive T20I series one from West Indies Women team and second is from England Women team. I hope they will do well in ODI format but chances are rare. So let's wait for series start.

I do not think there is going to be any improvement with the Pakistan women’s team. Because the England women’s team is leaps and bounds better compared to them. So I do not expect anything special from the Pakistan women’s team.

About Pakistan men’s team not doing well, yes I agree that Pakistan men’s team are also not doing as well as we expect them to be. But I am definitely more hopeful about the men’s team. And I think at the end of the day it comes down to all the problems that Pakistan is facing in their country. When there are so many problems going on in the country, it is actually very hard to even ask the country to do well in cricket. Except from Afghanistan I guess, they are the exception.

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Pakistan Women vs England Women ODI Series

As we know that Pakistan Women and England Women both are playing T20I series at this time and today is the last match of this series. And we know that England Women team is much stronger as compare to the Pakistan women team. And they have won two matches and the series too.
So after this series they will play the ODI series. Which will start from 23rd May. So the format eill br changed do may be Pakistan will perform well. But we can't say anything at this time. So let's wait for the 23rd. Smiley

Now, it is officially announced that once again that Nida Dar will lead the Pakistan team in the ODI series as she led the team in T20 series and lost them all. She did not played good and even sometimes poor, but here is not that she is the alone worrier of the team, there are also good players but they didn’t perform as well as we needed.

However, for this poor captaincy, the PCB talks that the captain could be replaced and today is the day when the PCB announced that nothing surprises, Nida Dar will lead the team in ODI series. That was just the rumours that the captain would be changed. I think that the Pakistan women's team doesn't have any player who is more experienced than here.

Pakistan cricket board should understand why the Pakistan cricket team, I am talking about the Pakistan women’s cricket team, is not doing well enough. They simply do not have enough experience. when it comes to the shortest format of cricket, they also do not have any kind of firepower as well.

it is very easy to feel pressured and make some decisions in a hurry. But I think they should give the women’s team a little more time. they should not make these changes like changing the captain or similar kind of changes very quickly. Because that is eventually not going to give the team enough time to actually settle. We all know that a squad gets better when they play with each other for a long period of time. And remember, them playing against big opponents consistently is going to help them learn.

Pakistani Women International cricket team performance is very bad in the last few years . I think Pakistani culture should be change and they should give freedom to women . If family will support to the women to play,then Pakistani domestic teams performance will be good and we will get good players from the Pakistan nation. But that is impossible for Pakistan because 90 percent of the Pakistani Women are house wife and they  only manage the house and man work and women are on the load of her husband but in Europe countries ,that is different and that's why Australia and England Women cricket teams are more stronger than other teams of the World.

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May 21, 2024, 07:46:18 PM
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Pakistani Women International cricket team performance is very bad in the last few years . I think Pakistani culture should be change and they should give freedom to women . If family will support to the women to play,then Pakistani domestic teams performance will be good and we will get good players from the Pakistan nation. But that is impossible for Pakistan because 90 percent of the Pakistani Women are house wife and they  only manage the house and man work and women are on the load of her husband but in Europe countries ,that is different and that's why Australia and England Women cricket teams are more stronger than other teams of the World.

It has nothing to do with women's rights or gender based discrimination. If it was so, then Pakistan wouldn't be having a women's team (similar to Afghanistan). The real issue here is that the PCB doesn't give much importance to women's cricket. When Rameez Raja was the PCB chairman, he did a lot of hardwork for the domestic teams and women. But once Najam Sethi replaced him, things went back to what they were previously. Lack of importance is the issue here, and not women's freedom or liberty.

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It has nothing to do with women's rights or gender based discrimination. If it was so, then Pakistan wouldn't be having a women's team (similar to Afghanistan). The real issue here is that the PCB doesn't give much importance to women's cricket. When Rameez Raja was the PCB chairman, he did a lot of hardwork for the domestic teams and women. But once Najam Sethi replaced him, things went back to what they were previously. Lack of importance is the issue here, and not women's freedom or liberty.
It's not only PCB or ACB's problem but the whole Indian subcontinent.

Don't forget during Srinivasan's term, what kind of attitude BCCI had regarding women's cricket. Even the previous administrator under Saurav Ganguly was dragging its feet but the situation changed drastically after WPL.

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It has nothing to do with women's rights or gender based discrimination. If it was so, then Pakistan wouldn't be having a women's team (similar to Afghanistan). The real issue here is that the PCB doesn't give much importance to women's cricket. When Rameez Raja was the PCB chairman, he did a lot of hardwork for the domestic teams and women. But once Najam Sethi replaced him, things went back to what they were previously. Lack of importance is the issue here, and not women's freedom or liberty.
Agreed with you. Rameez Raha deserved that seat. But unfortunately he replaced. He really work hard for domestic cricket and particularly for the Women team. And now at this time we can see I am not looking a prominent player in batting line in Pakistan Men Cricket team. Players like Misbah we had Inzmam. I miss Abdul Razzaq he was a great player when he was in the team. But at this time I didn't think Pakistani team has a player at this level. Fakhar Zaman has some skills but he don't have consistency. Cricket teams need more focus. But chairman has not much skills like Rameez has. Because he is commentator and he mostly know how players perform. And which players are the best for National team.

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Rameez Raha deserved that seat. But unfortunately he replaced. He really work hard for domestic cricket and particularly for the Women team. And now at this time we can see I am not looking a prominent player in batting line in Pakistan Men Cricket team. Players like Misbah we had Inzmam. I miss Abdul Razzaq he was a great player when he was in the team. But at this time I didn't think Pakistani team has a player at this level. Fakhar Zaman has some skills but he don't have consistency. Cricket teams need more focus. But chairman has not much skills like Rameez has. Because he is commentator and he mostly know how players perform. And which players are the best for National team.
It's not alone Ramiz Raja we all are still living in Stone Age and never want to give women's their proper place in all departments in India recently we are having some development but still many things are needed to be settled with PCB and ACB are far behind in these things, and they can't do things which are important for the development of this game it needs well education and school based development which will bring good quality and better environment for the women's in sports.

In last few years we are having good things Pakistani women's are trying, but they are not having basic structure like domestic events and better facilities which are much needed Sri Lanka recently doing good and having chance of development like India, but women's in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan are not having chances like them.

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Agreed with you. Rameez Raha deserved that seat. But unfortunately he replaced. He really work hard for domestic cricket and particularly for the Women team. And now at this time we can see I am not looking a prominent player in batting line in Pakistan Men Cricket team. Players like Misbah we had Inzmam. I miss Abdul Razzaq he was a great player when he was in the team. But at this time I didn't think Pakistani team has a player at this level. Fakhar Zaman has some skills but he don't have consistency. Cricket teams need more focus. But chairman has not much skills like Rameez has. Because he is commentator and he mostly know how players perform. And which players are the best for National team.

Abdul Razzaq was someone special. He was a genuine pace-bowling allrounder. Now Pakistan doesn't have anyone like him. Razzaq was at the same level of Jacques Kallis or Lance Klusener. Australia and England on the other hand, have such players in the form of Cameron Green and Ben Stokes. Even India has Harddick Pandya. Now coming to Rameez Raja, he did a lot of great work while he was in power. He was the guy who rescued the PSL with an amazing media rights deal. Too unfortunate that he had to resign.

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Agreed with you. Rameez Raha deserved that seat. But unfortunately he replaced. He really work hard for domestic cricket and particularly for the Women team. And now at this time we can see I am not looking a prominent player in batting line in Pakistan Men Cricket team. Players like Misbah we had Inzmam. I miss Abdul Razzaq he was a great player when he was in the team. But at this time I didn't think Pakistani team has a player at this level. Fakhar Zaman has some skills but he don't have consistency. Cricket teams need more focus. But chairman has not much skills like Rameez has. Because he is commentator and he mostly know how players perform. And which players are the best for National team.

Abdul Razzaq was someone special. He was a genuine pace-bowling allrounder. Now Pakistan doesn't have anyone like him. Razzaq was at the same level of Jacques Kallis or Lance Klusener. Australia and England on the other hand, have such players in the form of Cameron Green and Ben Stokes. Even India has Harddick Pandya. Now coming to Rameez Raja, he did a lot of great work while he was in power. He was the guy who rescued the PSL with an amazing media rights deal. Too unfortunate that he had to resign.
In Pakistan, we are having good talent but sadly their management is completely failed to groom these youngsters on positive note and also having their best with merit and better mind set usually we are having huge political influence which are doing end of things here for the youngsters specially in recent time we are having too many problems around the PCB and Pakistan cricket team with now they are having not top four spots in any format which is worst from them.
Here I will not blame player as we are having responsible peoples in management because they are here just because of political influence nothing else having groups of own favorite players and creating mess-up between players are common things for these puppets and trying to sabotage this all sports mind-set like they have done with Field Hockey and Squash where this country was ruling for the decades.

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Pakistan Women vs England Women

So finally today is the day. Pakistan Women team and England Women team will face each other. We know that how Pakistan women team played in T20I series. They lost all three Matches. And I am not expecting a good performance from Pakistan Women team. I think they will disappoint us again. Well we can't say anything at this time. May be Pakistan make a good comeback who knows.
There is the Men T20I series ongoing. The first match abandoned due to rain. Means Pakistan's both teams are playing with England so I hope Pakistan Men Cricket team will perform well. So let's wait for the Next match.

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It has nothing to do with women's rights or gender based discrimination. If it was so, then Pakistan wouldn't be having a women's team (similar to Afghanistan). The real issue here is that the PCB doesn't give much importance to women's cricket. When Rameez Raja was the PCB chairman, he did a lot of hardwork for the domestic teams and women. But once Najam Sethi replaced him, things went back to what they were previously. Lack of importance is the issue here, and not women's freedom or liberty.
Agreed with you. Rameez Raha deserved that seat. But unfortunately he replaced. He really work hard for domestic cricket and particularly for the Women team. And now at this time we can see I am not looking a prominent player in batting line in Pakistan Men Cricket team. Players like Misbah we had Inzmam. I miss Abdul Razzaq he was a great player when he was in the team. But at this time I didn't think Pakistani team has a player at this level. Fakhar Zaman has some skills but he don't have consistency. Cricket teams need more focus. But chairman has not much skills like Rameez has. Because he is commentator and he mostly know how players perform. And which players are the best for National team.
I think Rameez Raja took the players on references  and that is not only my thinking,that is fact. He took bad advantage of his seat and he expell Muhammad Amir from the International cricket team when he was in form . Pakistani International cricket team lose many matches because of only his decisions. I think Waseem Akram  will be best Chairman of Cricket board of Pakistan. Waseem Akram is a legendary player and he is also good man and he will give his best for win of Pakistani International cricket team but that we can't expect from Rameez Raja. He is only good commentators and he didn't deserve to be a chairman of Cricket board.

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May 23, 2024, 08:29:37 AM
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Pakistan Women vs England Women
Match will start in 4h. And as you mentioned I also think that England Women team can win this match. And England team is looking more stronger as compare to the Pakistan women team. By the way Pakistan women team can win also we can't underestimate them.
And you mentioned about Men Cricket team so I think Pakistan team looks strong but we can't say anything because they didn't played any match yet. We will get a conclusion when they will play match but at this time Pakistan squad is looking stronger. I am also waiting for the second match to check performance of both teams.

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After losing three T20 matches, Pakistan team is playing the first ODI match of the series against England Women today. Pakistan Women's team lost all three T20 matches due to their poor batting. Pakistan would not have lost all three matches if the batsmen had performed a bit better.

I don't see the possibility that Pakistan will win the ODI series. Pakistan's loss in the ODI series is also high. Because the Pakistani batsmen are unlikely to perform well against England's experienced bowlers.



Pakistan team won the toss and decided to field. England women's team lost 4 wickets and collected 155 runs in 33 overs. If England can score 100 runs in 17 overs then it will be a good target for victory. If England women team can collect more than 250, then Pakistan women team will not win this match.

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May 23, 2024, 02:11:03 PM
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England Women vs Pakistan Women, 1st ODI is already started. Pakistan Women won the toss and they opt fielding first. Currently England Women doing batting and their performance are good enough. Meanwhile 32 overs gone and they scored 148−4 runs till now. Tammy Beaumont(33), captain Heather Knight(29) played avarage. Right now Amy Jones and Alice Capsey are doing batting. Aliya Riaz is already known as good bowler and she took 2 wickets already. Maybe England Women would collect 230/235 runs at the end this match.but i doubt about Pakistan Women if they could reach that target or not. Cause england women is very strong team compare to them. Let's see

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May 23, 2024, 02:18:58 PM
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Pakistan Women vs England Women
Match will start in 4h. And as you mentioned I also think that England Women team can win this match. And England team is looking more stronger as compare to the Pakistan women team. By the way Pakistan women team can win also we can't underestimate them.
And you mentioned about Men Cricket team so I think Pakistan team looks strong but we can't say anything because they didn't played any match yet. We will get a conclusion when they will play match but at this time Pakistan squad is looking stronger. I am also waiting for the second match to check performance of both teams.
The first ODI match between Pakistan Women's team and England Women's team has already started. We all probably know how the Pakistan Women's team is currently performing as they have been defeated by the England Women's team in their previous three T20I matches. Pakistan Women's team was not only defeated they lost the series 3-0 to England Women's team. Pakistan women's team should forget the T20 series failure and come back to ODI cricket with a good performance.

In today's match, Pakistan Women won the toss first and even if they decided to field first, it is still unclear how logical it could be. Because the England women's team is still batting in great rhythm, they are currently collecting 148 runs for four wickets at the end of 32 overs. England Women still have 18 overs to go even as they have six wickets to spare. England women's batsmen may go on to big collections today and even make this match tough for Pakistan women's team.

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May 23, 2024, 02:27:32 PM
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England Women vs Pakistan Women, 1st ODI is already started. Pakistan Women won the toss and they opt fielding first. Currently England Women doing batting and their performance are good enough. Meanwhile 32 overs gone and they scored 148−4 runs till now. Tammy Beaumont(33), captain Heather Knight(29) played avarage. Right now Amy Jones and Alice Capsey are doing batting. Aliya Riaz is already known as good bowler and she took 2 wickets already. Maybe England Women would collect 230/235 runs at the end this match.but i doubt about Pakistan Women if they could reach that target or not. Cause england women is very strong team compare to them. Let's see
Finally after completing T20 competition now both squads England women sqaud against Pakistan women squad is facing with each other on ODI competition and both sqauds already entered on crease for first clash. Toss already done among both squads England and Pakistan women sqaud. In T20 competition, Pakistan women sqaud was not displayed impressive performance and lost all games hope this will not happen in current competition let's move toward match, England women sqaud has begun this match first with batting Inning and also their batters played 37 overs and in these overs, England women squad successfully collected 179 scores with lost 4 wickets I feel that Pakistan women squad again seem in trouble and also I believe that in remaining overs, England women squad will collect 70 to 80 scores more and final Defeating target will set 250+ i guess. But it is too early to say anything. I feel that Pakistan women squad will show an fantastic performance in batting innings this time.

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May 23, 2024, 04:51:54 PM
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After losing three T20 matches, Pakistan team is playing the first ODI match of the series against England Women today. Pakistan Women's team lost all three T20 matches due to their poor batting. Pakistan would not have lost all three matches if the batsmen had performed a bit better.

I don't see the possibility that Pakistan will win the ODI series. Pakistan's loss in the ODI series is also high. Because the Pakistani batsmen are unlikely to perform well against England's experienced bowlers.



Pakistan team won the toss and decided to field. England women's team lost 4 wickets and collected 155 runs in 33 overs. If England can score 100 runs in 17 overs then it will be a good target for victory. If England women team can collect more than 250, then Pakistan women team will not win this match.

Pakistan batsmen are batting with responsibility today.   Pakistan women's team has not won a single match in the T20 series. So Pakistan team will try hard to perform well and win in ODI format. Pakistan captain used his 7 bowlers today. Nida Dar picked up three wickets and Nashra Sandhu, Umme Hani and Aliya Riaz took two wickets each.

A target of 244 runs is not a big target on this pitch.   If the batsmen of the Pakistan Women's team can bat responsibly, Pakistan has a great chance of winning this match. At the end of 15 overs, Pakistan women's team collected 66 runs with the loss of 1 wicket.   Pakistani batsmen need to collect 178 runs in 35 overs.

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