ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[Haunebu]

Pakistan is in top form despite a couple of fuckups. India looking good after Bumrah's comeback and mix up with new guys in the squad.

Pakistan-Top form? Come on. They struggled against a team like Afghanistan and almost lost against them on several occasions. They luckily made it to the top of the ODI leaderboard.

Also, India is definitely not looking good since they are clearly over-dependent on their senior players(Rohit, Kohli, Bumrah etc).

[Dimitri94]

There is no clear favorite in the upcoming Asia Cup which makes it more exciting.

I think this time Asia Cup might turn into a blockbuster contest.

Pakistan is in top form despite a couple of fuckups. India looking good after Bumrah's comeback and mix up with new guys in the squad. Bangladesh defeated India in the last ODI series so they are alright too. Sri Lanka also not looking that bad, The only drawback would be an absence of inform Hasaranga as he got injured i suppose. Weaker link would be Afghanistan but they can beat anyone on their day and we can expect some sort of fightback from them, not counting Nepal atm.

Pakistan is the same team that got bowled out for 201 runs in the first match of the bilateral series against Afghanistan. They performed well in the next two matches, but inconsistency is a big issue with them. They have some of the world's best batsmen and pace bowlers, but as a result of inconsistency they haven't been winning any major tournaments of late. India's case is similar. The last time they won a major ICC tournament was back in 2011. Asia Cup is organized by the ACC, but even in this tournament they became champions for the last time in 2018.

India and Pakistan perform very well throughout the tournament but they don't do well in important matches and their biggest problem is not winning trophies in major tournaments. In the last T20 World Cup, Pakistan qualified for the final but unfortunately they lost to England in the final match and failed to win the trophy.  

You are right, one of Pakistan's major weaknesses is that they cannot control themselves in major events. Players who perform well often perform poorly and lose matches if they are allowed to play in a big tournament. As we saw in the last T20 World Cup. After playing well in every match, their downfall came when it was needed. Especially the top order batsmen fail. Again one thing is heard about Pakistan team that they are a team dependent on top few players. But all these things are past history. Perhaps now the team can learn from the mistakes of the past and will try to show good performance in the Asia Cup.

[ThemePen]

 
India and Pakistan are two of the best Asian teams so each of them should learn from the mistakes they have made and apply those lessons in the upcoming ODI World Cup. The World Cup is going to be held in India, so the chances of Asian teams doing well in this World Cup are very high. Barring minor mistakes, Pakistan and India have a good chance of doing well in the 2023 ODI World Cup.

Yes you are absolutely right, they should learn from their mistakes. They always make some mistakes. And they should try to fix it. And we all know that the Asia cup is ahead and I hope they will try to their best to fix their mistakes. And I hope Pakistan will win the Asia Cup. As they are on top in ranking now.

[ZAINmalik75]

Pakistan-Top form? Come on. They struggled against a team like Afghanistan and almost lost against them on several occasions. They luckily made it to the top of the ODI leaderboard.

I don't know why you still underestimating a top side like Afghanistan, they have significant top batter and one of the most important things is that they had world class spinners which has no comparison in current day cricket, also they give tough time to top teams in T20 format as they were known good in especially short format. So if they give tough time to Pakistan then it's nothing to be surprised as they has ability.

Also, India is definitely not looking good since they are clearly over-dependent on their senior players(Rohit, Kohli, Bumrah etc).

From one innings performance you can't judge the player as they have history of spectacular performances, if you check out current top team in all formats you will find out that only India and Pakistan are the only team who dominate entire format by taking top first posting of each and every format, no doubt Rohit , Kohli are worthy assets for India but I believe just like after Sachin and sehwag indian team survived and got new names so same like they will get after them. I am satisfied form both team performance and I am quite sure that they will not only reach the Asia Cup but will be the strong contender for world Cup Semifinals.

[Shumyl]

 
India and Pakistan are two of the best Asian teams so each of them should learn from the mistakes they have made and apply those lessons in the upcoming ODI World Cup. The World Cup is going to be held in India, so the chances of Asian teams doing well in this World Cup are very high. Barring minor mistakes, Pakistan and India have a good chance of doing well in the 2023 ODI World Cup.

Yes you are absolutely right, they should learn from their mistakes. They always make some mistakes. And they should try to fix it. And we all know that the Asia cup is ahead and I hope they will try to their best to fix their mistakes. And I hope Pakistan will win the Asia Cup. As they are on top in ranking now.

Yes, India and Pakistan are the best Asian teams. But you say, both teams learned from their mistakes not only those teams everyone learned from their mistakes, and in Asia Cup just 2 days are left and all teams try their best to win the Asia Cup. Pakistan has no.1 ODI batsman and also Pakistan is the no.1 ODI team so, Pakistan has too many chances to win the Asia Cup.

[cozytrade]

 
India and Pakistan are two of the best Asian teams so each of them should learn from the mistakes they have made and apply those lessons in the upcoming ODI World Cup. The World Cup is going to be held in India, so the chances of Asian teams doing well in this World Cup are very high. Barring minor mistakes, Pakistan and India have a good chance of doing well in the 2023 ODI World Cup.

Yes you are absolutely right, they should learn from their mistakes. They always make some mistakes. And they should try to fix it. And we all know that the Asia cup is ahead and I hope they will try to their best to fix their mistakes. And I hope Pakistan will win the Asia Cup. As they are on top in ranking now.

Yes, India and Pakistan are the best Asian teams. But you say, both teams learned from their mistakes not only those teams everyone learned from their mistakes, and in Asia Cup just 2 days are left and all teams try their best to win the Asia Cup. Pakistan has no.1 ODI batsman and also Pakistan is the no.1 ODI team so, Pakistan has too many chances to win the Asia Cup.

I agree with you, Pakistan have long been the best team in ODIs. They have good reputation in ODI matches. They are very good at batting especially in Pakistan team ODI matches. But they have some weakness when it comes to bowling. Hope the Pakistan team's bowling performance will change in this year's Asia Cup

[MusaPk]

Pakistan is the same team that got bowled out for 201 runs in the first match of the bilateral series against Afghanistan. They performed well in the next two matches, but inconsistency is a big issue with them. They have some of the world's best batsmen and pace bowlers, but as a result of inconsistency they haven't been winning any major tournaments of late. India's case is similar. The last time they won a major ICC tournament was back in 2011. Asia Cup is organized by the ACC, but even in this tournament they became champions for the last time in 2018.

Pakistan won icc champions trophy back in 2017 and since then its a dry period for Pakistan. As you said inconsistency is the major weakness of Pakistan team and despite getting number one position in ODIs, no one can predict the performance of Pakistan in coming Asia and world cup. Pakistan need to perform well in Asia Cup to have a winning momentum with them for the world cup.

[synchronym]

Nagin dance will be seen again in the field because Bangladesh is taking the field against Sri Lanka and these two teams are facing each other in the Asia Cup. This is the high voltage match of the Asia Cup.This match is at the top of the audience's interest. Sri Lanka is ahead in the face-to-face match. Once upon a time India Pakistan and England Australia were considered to be duels in the cricket world but the current context is different from the players on the current field to the audience and the Bangladesh vs Sri Lanka match is high voltage to the audience through social media especially Nidra Haas that trophy. The first match of Asia Cup is taking place Tigers vs Sri Lanka tickets for this match sold out very fast so it is understood that the match between Sri Lanka and Bangladesh will be very great. Sri Lanka is leading in terms of results from ten matches out of ten matches they have won six and Bangladesh has managed to win four. To take the field against Sri Lanka, Bangladesh will have to come out very strong and play well against them. However, best wishes for the Bangladesh team so that they can play very well.

[Gladitorcomeback]

Pakistan is the same team that got bowled out for 201 runs in the first match of the bilateral series against Afghanistan. They performed well in the next two matches, but inconsistency is a big issue with them. They have some of the world's best batsmen and pace bowlers, but as a result of inconsistency they haven't been winning any major tournaments of late. India's case is similar. The last time they won a major ICC tournament was back in 2011. Asia Cup is organized by the ACC, but even in this tournament they became champions for the last time in 2018.

Pakistan won icc champions trophy back in 2017 and since then its a dry period for Pakistan. As you said inconsistency is the major weakness of Pakistan team and despite getting number one position in ODIs, no one can predict the performance of Pakistan in coming Asia and world cup. Pakistan need to perform well in Asia Cup to have a winning momentum with them for the world cup.

Pakistan is become No.1 team and this time, there is high chances of winning this Asia cup. Inconsistency in Pakistan team is also a matter but I think now the team progress is being strong. Pakistan has long batting line up even Naseem shah could bat and bowling of Pakistan is always on top. The only problem I think is low strike rate and they always believe that 250 is enough in ODI while cricket is become so aggressive now and most of team have  mindset of 350+ target.

Pakistan should change their minded and they need to make a good score in first ten over powerplay. India always working on this strategy and this is the reason they put pressure on opponent team because when you have a high target then batsmen will do mistake , cause losing wicket.

[JSRAW]

There is no clear favorite in the upcoming Asia Cup which makes it more exciting.

I think this time Asia Cup might turn into a blockbuster contest.

Pakistan is in top form despite a couple of fuckups. India looking good after Bumrah's comeback and mix up with new guys in the squad. Bangladesh defeated India in the last ODI series so they are alright too. Sri Lanka also not looking that bad, The only drawback would be an absence of inform Hasaranga as he got injured i suppose. Weaker link would be Afghanistan but they can beat anyone on their day and we can expect some sort of fightback from them, not counting Nepal atm.

Pakistan is the same team that got bowled out for 201 runs in the first match of the bilateral series against Afghanistan. They performed well in the next two matches, but inconsistency is a big issue with them. They have some of the world's best batsmen and pace bowlers, but as a result of inconsistency they haven't been winning any major tournaments of late. India's case is similar. The last time they won a major ICC tournament was back in 2011. Asia Cup is organized by the ACC, but even in this tournament they became champions for the last time in 2018.

Agree with you and Haunebu argument because it did happen but you have to look at their complete squad and playing XI.

Right now they look like a balanced team. Batting is almost covered, Pace battery is world class. Spin is a slight concern but Shadab filling the gap in the middle overs.

[Insanity]

There is no clear favorite in the upcoming Asia Cup which makes it more exciting.

I think this time Asia Cup might turn into a blockbuster contest.

Pakistan is in top form despite a couple of fuckups. India looking good after Bumrah's comeback and mix up with new guys in the squad. Bangladesh defeated India in the last ODI series so they are alright too. Sri Lanka also not looking that bad, The only drawback would be an absence of inform Hasaranga as he got injured i suppose. Weaker link would be Afghanistan but they can beat anyone on their day and we can expect some sort of fightback from them, not counting Nepal atm.

Maybe you are right in your statics, but I have completely different view about this because recently we have no improvement in few teams from Asia like Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and now Afghanistan even they are going down in quality with batting with recent series against Pakistan give us all story of Afghani batting how unpredictable and poor they are in shots selections with they need to work on field as well because this is also big disappointment for them, I watch they drop many dolly catches as well.

Bangladesh is also having crises, and they will be also not good as we need them after long time and just read about Sri Lanka they are also facing some issues while their few players are out with injuries and other problems then again we have left only two teams India and Pakistan which can do good, but upset is possible as we have last time in the UAE as it is beauty of this game while we are having this in Asia.

Your words are 100% logical, Bangladesh team has very little chance of performing well in the Asia Cup. Liton Das, an important player of the Bangladesh team, is unable to participate in this Asia Cup due to his physical problems. Liton Das is a good quality batsman. Bangladesh team will be far behind in terms of these batsmen. However, the captain of the Bangladesh team, Shakibul Hasan, is optimistic that the Bangladesh team will be the champion in this year's Asia Cup

[Haunebu]

I don't know why you still underestimating a top side like Afghanistan, they have significant top batter and one of the most important things is that they had world class spinners which has no comparison in current day cricket, also they give tough time to top teams in T20 format as they were known good in especially short format. So if they give tough time to Pakistan then it's nothing to be surprised as they has ability.

You are overestimating Afghanistan frankly speaking. They have world class players like Rashid, Mujeeb, Nabi etc, but they are individual performers and don't really perform well together when in a team together.

History has proven whatever I stated. Do your research.

I am satisfied form both team performance and I am quite sure that they will not only reach the Asia Cup but will be the strong contender for world Cup Semifinals.

World Cup semis? You have got to be kidding. Both of these teams may not even reach the quarters thanks to way stronger and consistent teams like Australia, England and New Zealand.

[romero121]

There is no clear favorite in the upcoming Asia Cup which makes it more exciting.

I think this time Asia Cup might turn into a blockbuster contest.

Pakistan is in top form despite a couple of fuckups. India looking good after Bumrah's comeback and mix up with new guys in the squad. Bangladesh defeated India in the last ODI series so they are alright too. Sri Lanka also not looking that bad, The only drawback would be an absence of inform Hasaranga as he got injured i suppose. Weaker link would be Afghanistan but they can beat anyone on their day and we can expect some sort of fightback from them, not counting Nepal atm.

Maybe you are right in your statics, but I have completely different view about this because recently we have no improvement in few teams from Asia like Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and now Afghanistan even they are going down in quality with batting with recent series against Pakistan give us all story of Afghani batting how unpredictable and poor they are in shots selections with they need to work on field as well because this is also big disappointment for them, I watch they drop many dolly catches as well.

Bangladesh is also having crises, and they will be also not good as we need them after long time and just read about Sri Lanka they are also facing some issues while their few players are out with injuries and other problems then again we have left only two teams India and Pakistan which can do good, but upset is possible as we have last time in the UAE as it is beauty of this game while we are having this in Asia.

Your words are 100% logical, Bangladesh team has very little chance of performing well in the Asia Cup. Liton Das, an important player of the Bangladesh team, is unable to participate in this Asia Cup due to his physical problems. Liton Das is a good quality batsman. Bangladesh team will be far behind in terms of these batsmen. However, the captain of the Bangladesh team, Shakibul Hasan, is optimistic that the Bangladesh team will be the champion in this year's Asia Cup

Litton Das is one among the best in the batting line-up for Bangladesh. Other than his presence the team have got other batting performers who had played well in recent matches. Shanto, Hridoy, Mehidy Hasand and Shakib Al Hasan. In my view Bangladesh will give good fight against every team. Mostly the lack of consistency can be seen with the team as very few players were able to contribute in a stable way.

[darewaller]

Pakistan is in top form despite a couple of fuckups. India looking good after Bumrah's comeback and mix up with new guys in the squad.

Pakistan-Top form? Come on. They struggled against a team like Afghanistan and almost lost against them on several occasions. They luckily made it to the top of the ODI leaderboard.

Also, India is definitely not looking good since they are clearly over-dependent on their senior players(Rohit, Kohli, Bumrah etc).

Now we are having six teams in Asian continent, but sadly no team is having consistency and well-equipped system which helps them for having better results and consistency which is the major problem for them right now just India and Pakistan are looking better, but both are also facing troubles but still I am favoring India for the win against Pakistan because most of the time India perform better than Pakistan in Asia Cups history.

Most of the time ranking never works for teams because we have the history of worst results from top ranked teams in every event but right now any prediction about Asian Cup winner is not possible because unpredictable and inconsistent teams are going to face each other which create some good entertainment for the fans but who is going to win its interesting just wait and watch for the final ball.

[ZAINmalik75]

World Cup semis? You have got to be kidding. Both of these teams may not even reach the quarters thanks to way stronger and consistent teams like Australia, England and New Zealand.

No way it's totally unfair to neglect them because I believe that India, Pakistan, England and Australia will be semifinalist and the reason is that indopak will get edge due to favorable conditions and availability of some ODI format gaint like (Baber, Imam, Virat and Rohit )  but new Zealand is no where thier main best player Williamson are still injured and if he returned soon then still thier is no guarantee that he will perform, so dear Haunebu right down my prediction and soon you will get same result...


As things are going ready steady but consistently for ICC ODI World CUP 2023, because just after Asia Cup the new ICC tournament will begin so it's short time to done everything at once, so Pakistan has done some important job from his side by launching the official kit of upcoming world Cup for his team, it's look quite good compared to his previous design in 2019 world Cup, As from that Pakistan become first team of the worldcup to launch his official jersey after that rest of the team will launch but in my mind it's like some kind of good business strategy because early launch will help them to sell high amount of shirt because soon it will be supplied all around the world and fan will easily get thier favourite new jersey to support thier team and thus the business will be done😎

[laurenB7742]

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Maybe you are right in your statics, but I have completely different view about this because recently we have no improvement in few teams from Asia like Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and now Afghanistan even they are going down in quality with batting with recent series against Pakistan give us all story of Afghani batting how unpredictable and poor they are in shots selections with they need to work on field as well because this is also big disappointment for them, I watch they drop many dolly catches as well.
Bangladesh is also having crises, and they will be also not good as we need them after long time and just read about Sri Lanka they are also facing some issues while their few players are out with injuries and other problems then again we have left only two teams India and Pakistan which can do good, but upset is possible as we have last time in the UAE as it is beauty of this game while we are having this in Asia.

Your words are 100% logical, Bangladesh team has very little chance of performing well in the Asia Cup. Liton Das, an important player of the Bangladesh team, is unable to participate in this Asia Cup due to his physical problems. Liton Das is a good quality batsman. Bangladesh team will be far behind in terms of these batsmen. However, the captain of the Bangladesh team, Shakibul Hasan, is optimistic that the Bangladesh team will be the champion in this year's Asia Cup

Litton Das is one among the best in the batting line-up for Bangladesh. Other than his presence the team have got other batting performers who had played well in recent matches. Shanto, Hridoy, Mehidy Hasand and Shakib Al Hasan. In my view Bangladesh will give good fight against every team. Mostly the lack of consistency can be seen with the team as very few players were able to contribute in a stable way.

Apart from Shakib Al Hasan, I have not seen any player in the Bangladesh squad who is capable of consistently performing well. Liton Das is a very important player in Bangladesh's squad. However, Liton's performance is not consistent. Bangladesh has a lot of talented players. The performance of this team is still weak and irregular due to consistency of performance alone. However, if the performance of the players is somewhat regular, the Bangladesh team has the ability to win against any big team. Not having Liton in the squad might be a bit of a loss for the Bangladesh team, but I am waiting to see which player the Bangladesh management selects as Liton's replacement. However, the team has been having problems with Bangladesh's opening pair for a long time.

[Sithara007]

LOL... The Asia cup is starting tomorrow and strangely no one is talking about it. I could see hardly any posts in the social media. The decision to hold the tournament in two countries, as well as the uncertainty surrounding it seems to have taken it's toll. Tomorrow Pakistan will be facing Nepal at the Multan Cricket Stadium. This is going to be the first ever ODI match for Nepal against a tier-1 full member (except for the 1 match against West Indies during this year's ODI qualifiers). It is going to be a tough task against Nepal, as they will be up against some of the world's best, including Babar Azam, Fakhar Zaman, Mohammad Rizwan and Shaheen Shah Afridi. 

[ThemePen]

LOL... The Asia cup is starting tomorrow and strangely no one is talking about it. I could see hardly any posts in the social media. The decision to hold the tournament in two countries, as well as the uncertainty surrounding it seems to have taken it's toll. Tomorrow Pakistan will be facing Nepal at the Multan Cricket Stadium. This is going to be the first ever ODI match for Nepal against a tier-1 full member (except for the 1 match against West Indies during this year's ODI qualifiers). It is going to be a tough task against Nepal, as they will be up against some of the world's best, including Babar Azam, Fakhar Zaman, Mohammad Rizwan and Shaheen Shah Afridi. 

Being a Pakistani we are more excited because we are hosting some of the matches of the Asia Cup. And tomorrow is the first match and will be played in the very Old city Multan. And Pakistan also invited the secretary of BCCI to join the first match as a guest. Don't know he will come or not. And I really hope that the Pakistan will win the first match.

[Cheema02]

Pakistan is the same team that got bowled out for 201 runs in the first match of the bilateral series against Afghanistan. They performed well in the next two matches, but inconsistency is a big issue with them. They have some of the world's best batsmen and pace bowlers, but as a result of inconsistency they haven't been winning any major tournaments of late. India's case is similar. The last time they won a major ICC tournament was back in 2011. Asia Cup is organized by the ACC, but even in this tournament they became champions for the last time in 2018.

Pakistan won icc champions trophy back in 2017 and since then its a dry period for Pakistan. As you said inconsistency is the major weakness of Pakistan team and despite getting number one position in ODIs, no one can predict the performance of Pakistan in coming Asia and world cup. Pakistan need to perform well in Asia Cup to have a winning momentum with them for the world cup.

Previous world Cup 2019 Pakistan didn't qualify for the next round due to run rate issues that a huge setback for fans. But after that Pakistan team worked hard to improve its batting nd bowling unit and qualify for Semi final in World Cup 2021 but unfortunately did not win semi final against Australia. Later after last year Pakistan qualified for the Asia Cup Final against Sirlanka but was unable to win and also qualified for Final of World Cup 2022 against England but lost this match. Pakistan learned from its mistakes and Now the World No 1 team should won this Asia Cup and World Cup 2023.

[Sithara007]

Being a Pakistani we are more excited because we are hosting some of the matches of the Asia Cup. And tomorrow is the first match and will be played in the very Old city Multan. And Pakistan also invited the secretary of BCCI to join the first match as a guest. Don't know he will come or not. And I really hope that the Pakistan will win the first match.

Winning against Nepal would be like cakewalk. The real tournament will start for Pakistan on 2nd September, when they will face India at the Pallekele International Cricket Stadium in Kandy. And after this, the teams will proceed to Super-4, where the competition would be very tough. Teams like India has the luxury of playing all of their matches in Sri Lanka. However for Pakistan and Afghanistan, they need to shuttle between Pakistan and Sri Lanka. I don't know how much it is going to impact their performance, but given the tight schedule, it is one worrying factor for these teams.