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December 24, 2023, 06:04:03 PM
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In three format of cricket, T20,ODI & TEST, comparatively Bangladesh team is good in ODI format, in ODI their rank is above Afghanistan & West Indies teams. But BAN team can't good performed from the World Cup 2023, they played worst i think, So i don’t want to judge them for this win against big team New Zealand, anything can happened in cricket. Yes, i have noticed that no batsman in Bangladesh team has to take runs consistently from World Cup 2023 except Mahmudullah. So, i think their main weakness of batting line, most of the ODI matches they can't play 50 overs, so they can't make a big score.
Among these three formats test is toughest, and then we have some good similarity in other two formats but still these all needed good talent quality and consistency which is possible with having good system into your domestic set up because if players are coming from grassroots then surely they can understand better technique and knowledge of the game which is also the best way for grooming of players in last three decades we have no improvement in Bangladesh domestic setup even now BPL is good and giving them good finances.

Now it's time for them to think about this all and create better environment which will help to increase quality and performance of players in all formats, otherwise having better ranking than teams like Afghanistan and West Indies is never good.

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December 24, 2023, 06:29:10 PM
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Professional teams never underestimate any team. You say New Zealand didn't field their best XI in 3rd ODI against Bangladesh but those who got chance to play against Bangladesh are all top players so if you now say Bangladesh won but that win was not against a good team then it will be wrong. Regardless of the players, you have to see how Bangladesh performed in the third ODI match. If we talk about the second ODI match, but Bangladesh did not perform badly at all but Bangladesh could not bowl controlled in the end due to which Bangladesh lost the second ODI match. Judging by the way Bangladesh finished the World Cup, they did well enough in the New Zealand series. After losing the first two matches, we assumed that New Zealand would win the third match as well, but Bangladesh turned around in the third match, so we must congratulate Bangladesh.

Winning just one game doesn't mean that you are best and vice versa. NZ squad was same in all three ODI's, there was no change in last ODI. Bangladesh have won the match thats good but they still have lots of work to do. Bangladesh team lack in consistency, they won one or two game occasionally but they fail to win major series specially when they are abroad. At home they take advantage of home pitches and that's something not available abroad resulting in bad performance. 
I always say this and I admit that Bangladeshi cricket still has a lot of room for improvement. Bangladesh has yet to become like other professional teams. Before the World Cup, New Zealand's coach said that Bangladesh is not yet a team to play in the semi-finals of the World Cup. We are only trying to discuss the achievement and win of the third match in this series. Still Bangladesh regularly lose against teams like Zimbabwe and Ireland and this is not good news for Bangladesh cricket at all. As long as Bangladesh played cricket, they should have improved a lot in cricket but they could not do that. Where the Under 19 team has won tournaments like the World Cup and Asia Cup, Bangladesh must make a big improvement in this place where the main team has zero achievements.

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December 24, 2023, 06:52:00 PM
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In three format of cricket, T20,ODI & TEST, comparatively Bangladesh team is good in ODI format, in ODI their rank is above Afghanistan & West Indies teams. But BAN team can't good performed from the World Cup 2023, they played worst i think, So i don’t want to judge them for this win against big team New Zealand, anything can happened in cricket. Yes, i have noticed that no batsman in Bangladesh team has to take runs consistently from World Cup 2023 except Mahmudullah. So, i think their main weakness of batting line, most of the ODI matches they can't play 50 overs, so they can't make a big score.
Among these three formats test is toughest, and then we have some good similarity in other two formats but still these all needed good talent quality and consistency which is possible with having good system into your domestic set up because if players are coming from grassroots then surely they can understand better technique and knowledge of the game which is also the best way for grooming of players in last three decades we have no improvement in Bangladesh domestic setup even now BPL is good and giving them good finances.

Now it's time for them to think about this all and create better environment which will help to increase quality and performance of players in all formats, otherwise having better ranking than teams like Afghanistan and West Indies is never good.

Bangladeshi players got talents but they lack consistency a lot. Every match they depend on a batter to score big innings to gather a good score. They don't perform like a team, their batting is very weak.

In the 2nd ODI Soumya played good but they couldn't defend it. Their bowling is average right now, but their batting is worse than Afghanistan's. No one in that team is consistent. Shanto looked a bit consistent earlier this year but he can't score runs here and there. Litton last year had the time of his life and now he gets out in soft dismissals like he used to. Tamim Iqbal doesn't play anymore, Shakib can't score much runs, and neither can Mushfiq and others. Towhid Hridoy looked like a good player with lots of potential but he has yet to show it. Tanzim Tamim looks like a good batter but he lacks discipline. Their batting is what letting them down each time. They couldn't chase a low run against Netherlands in the World Cup.

So I would agree with @mdzahed134, we shouldn't be saying Bangladesh has become good because that's only 1 match.

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December 25, 2023, 06:46:38 AM
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Professional teams never underestimate any team. You say New Zealand didn't field their best XI in 3rd ODI against Bangladesh but those who got chance to play against Bangladesh are all top players so if you now say Bangladesh won but that win was not against a good team then it will be wrong. Regardless of the players, you have to see how Bangladesh performed in the third ODI match. If we talk about the second ODI match, but Bangladesh did not perform badly at all but Bangladesh could not bowl controlled in the end due to which Bangladesh lost the second ODI match. Judging by the way Bangladesh finished the World Cup, they did well enough in the New Zealand series.
Bangladesh lossing frist 2 matchs but Bangladesh performance in 3rd ODI is outstanding they beat new Zealand by 9 wickets, its a huge victory for Bangladesh cricket but a lot of improvement is needed in team especially in batting unit and bowling unit aslo. Bangladesh bowling performance in third odi is amazing they all out New Zealand in just 98, but this consistency is missing in Bangladesh team. They played well but how played Bangladesh U19 team is outstanding, they win U19 asis cup for Bangladesh, i think that players will pick in Bangladesh men team and for world cup.

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December 25, 2023, 07:52:36 AM
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Now it's time for them to think about this all and create better environment which will help to increase quality and performance of players in all formats, otherwise having better ranking than teams like Afghanistan and West Indies is never good.

The tour match was started from a long time and at this time, we cannot say which team will win but maybe I think that the Afghanistan team will win because UAE's batting is not like something to worry about and they cannot face the bowlers of Afghanistan like Abdul Rahman and many more, Rashid Khan and Fazal al Farooqi and Naveen Ul Haq didn't play this match. In this match, they gave a chance to youngsters to perform a particular performance.
Hashmatullah Shahidi is the captain of the team, and by the way, this is the only match that plays at Christmas.

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December 25, 2023, 08:15:34 AM
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Now it's time for them to think about this all and create better environment which will help to increase quality and performance of players in all formats, otherwise having better ranking than teams like Afghanistan and West Indies is never good.

The tour match was started from a long time and at this time, we cannot say which team will win but maybe I think that the Afghanistan team will win because UAE's batting is not like something to worry about and they cannot face the bowlers of Afghanistan like Abdul Rahman and many more, Rashid Khan and Fazal al Farooqi and Naveen Ul Haq didn't play this match. In this match, they gave a chance to youngsters to perform a particular performance.
Hashmatullah Shahidi is the captain of the team, and by the way, this is the only match that plays at Christmas.

In the current situation, we can see the falling of wickets of Afghanistan's batsmen. United Arab Emirates bowlers did their best, and if they play like that so maybe the Afghanistan batsmen cannot complete 200 runs, and it has much chances that they cannot complete 200 runs and lose all the wickets because the batsmen were out and now only bowlers are left to bat from Afghanistan and 15 overs also left and United Arab Emirates bowlers can take three wickets in 15 overs and if they do this thing so Afghanistan team has been all out.

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December 25, 2023, 08:42:15 AM
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The tour match was started from a long time and at this time, we cannot say which team will win but maybe I think that the Afghanistan team will win because UAE's batting is not like something to worry about and they cannot face the bowlers of Afghanistan like Abdul Rahman and many more, Rashid Khan and Fazal al Farooqi and Naveen Ul Haq didn't play this match. In this match, they gave a chance to youngsters to perform a particular performance.
Hashmatullah Shahidi is the captain of the team, and by the way, this is the only match that plays at Christmas.

Afghanistan last batting pair is on the crease. After 47 overs they have scored 214 runs and I think UAE has done a good job to restrict Afghans to such a low total. UAE team is made up of players from South Asia and they have tendency to chase such a small target. Though UAE recently finished second in U-19 Asia cup, it wont make any difference to there domestic setup as there is no interest of cricket in locals and there cricket team is entirely made up of expats.
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December 25, 2023, 08:47:07 AM
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The tour match was started from a long time and at this time, we cannot say which team will win but maybe I think that the Afghanistan team will win because UAE's batting is not like something to worry about and they cannot face the bowlers of Afghanistan like Abdul Rahman and many more, Rashid Khan and Fazal al Farooqi and Naveen Ul Haq didn't play this match. In this match, they gave a chance to youngsters to perform a particular performance.
Hashmatullah Shahidi is the captain of the team, and by the way, this is the only match that plays at Christmas.
Afghanistan last batting pair is on the crease. After 47 overs they have scored 214 runs and I think UAE has done a good job to restrict Afghans to such a low total. UAE team is made up of players from South Asia and they have tendency to chase such a small target. Though UAE recently finished second in U-19 Asia cup, it wont make any difference to there domestic setup as there is no interest of cricket in locals and there cricket team is entirely made up of expats.

Although the match is not an important match for Afghanistan. However, since the opponent is not strong. So my guess was that Afghanistan will dominate the match and win. But the batting order of Afghanistan cannot be improved. They have given a target of only 215 runs. Bahir Shah has collected the maximum 44 runs for the team. The performance of the UAE bowlers was very good. Akif raja gave a lot of runs but he picked up three wickets. Besides, Mohammad Jawadullah and Parashar's bowling was very controlled. Each took two wickets. UAE has a chance to win today's tour match.

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Now it's time for them to think about this all and create better environment which will help to increase quality and performance of players in all formats, otherwise having better ranking than teams like Afghanistan and West Indies is never good.

The tour match was started from a long time and at this time, we cannot say which team will win but maybe I think that the Afghanistan team will win because UAE's batting is not like something to worry about and they cannot face the bowlers of Afghanistan like Abdul Rahman and many more, Rashid Khan and Fazal al Farooqi and Naveen Ul Haq didn't play this match. In this match, they gave a chance to youngsters to perform a particular performance.
Hashmatullah Shahidi is the captain of the team, and by the way, this is the only match that plays at Christmas.
Yes, first tour match of Afghanistan tour to United Arab Emirates was begun on crease and one squad Afghanistan squad has finished their batting inning first and in 50 overs, Afghanistan squad was not collected good scores for victory and total 214 scores made and when Afghanistan squad batted 47.2 overs on crease then their whole squads batters were wiped out 214 scores are a final defending target. Akif Raja bowler of UAE squad picked three good batters of Afghanistan, Muhammad Jawadullah bowler also picked two wickets and Muhammad Zuhaib also picked 2 batters in 9 overs, Dhruv Parashar also wiped out 2 batters. Now, UAE squad batting inning has begun and they played 5 overs and collected 22 scores with lost of 2 wickets

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December 25, 2023, 09:55:15 AM
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Yes, first tour match of Afghanistan tour to United Arab Emirates was begun on crease and one squad Afghanistan squad has finished their batting inning first and in 50 overs, Afghanistan squad was not collected good scores for victory and total 214 scores made and when Afghanistan squad batted 47.2 overs on crease then their whole squads batters were wiped out 214 scores are a final defending target. Akif Raja bowler of UAE squad picked three good batters of Afghanistan, Muhammad Jawadullah bowler also picked two wickets and Muhammad Zuhaib also picked 2 batters in 9 overs, Dhruv Parashar also wiped out 2 batters. Now, UAE squad batting inning has begun and they played 5 overs and collected 22 scores with lost of 2 wickets
In my point of view 215 runs target wasn't a good target. Akif Raja bowling was good in this Match and he got 3 wickets and behind him Muhammad Jawadullah Muhammad Zuhaib and Dhruv Parashar are there and they collected 2,2,2 wickets.
According to the current situation United Arab Emirates are playing and lost 4 wickets on 28 runs. Bilal Sami and Yamin Ahmadzai both have collected 2,2 wickets and UAE played 8 overs only. The situation of UAE is looking weak and I don't think so they will win this match.

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December 25, 2023, 10:10:08 AM
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The tour match was started from a long time and at this time, we cannot say which team will win but maybe I think that the Afghanistan team will win because UAE's batting is not like something to worry about and they cannot face the bowlers of Afghanistan like Abdul Rahman and many more, Rashid Khan and Fazal al Farooqi and Naveen Ul Haq didn't play this match. In this match, they gave a chance to youngsters to perform a particular performance.
Hashmatullah Shahidi is the captain of the team, and by the way, this is the only match that plays at Christmas.

Afghanistan last batting pair is on the crease. After 47 overs they have scored 214 runs and I think UAE has done a good job to restrict Afghans to such a low total. UAE team is made up of players from South Asia and they have tendency to chase such a small target. Though UAE recently finished second in U-19 Asia cup, it wont make any difference to there domestic setup as there is no interest of cricket in locals and there cricket team is entirely made up of expats.
In first game, UAE won the toss and first decided bowling. Afghanistan batsman makes 17 run in 3 over and 1 out. Afghanistan batsman could not worked hard and struggle. Afghanistan batsman makes 42 run in 7 over and 1 out. UAE bowler out the Afghanistan batsman in the last ball of the 8 over. This is the second achievement for UAE team. Afghanistan batsman makes 61 run in 10 over and 2 outs. Afghanistan batsman could not make run. Afghanistan batsman makes 115 run in 20 over and 2 outs. Afghanistan batsman makes 214 run in 48 over and 10 outs. This is the target for UAE team. This is easy target. Afghanistan batsman could not worked hard and struggle. Now let's see UAE batsman can complete this target.UAE can complete this target very easily as 215 runs in 50 overs is easily achieved.

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December 25, 2023, 11:43:59 AM
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The tour match was started from a long time and at this time, we cannot say which team will win but maybe I think that the Afghanistan team will win because UAE's batting is not like something to worry about and they cannot face the bowlers of Afghanistan like Abdul Rahman and many more, Rashid Khan and Fazal al Farooqi and Naveen Ul Haq didn't play this match. In this match, they gave a chance to youngsters to perform a particular performance.
Hashmatullah Shahidi is the captain of the team, and by the way, this is the only match that plays at Christmas.

Afghanistan last batting pair is on the crease. After 47 overs they have scored 214 runs and I think UAE has done a good job to restrict Afghans to such a low total. UAE team is made up of players from South Asia and they have tendency to chase such a small target. Though UAE recently finished second in U-19 Asia cup, it wont make any difference to there domestic setup as there is no interest of cricket in locals and there cricket team is entirely made up of expats.


At this time, United Arab Emirates one wicket is left and now there are very close to losing this match. They made 104 runs and lost 9 wickets, such a poor performance by them.

The 6 wickets fell to the Afghanistan team, and first, Riaz Hassan lost their wicket in 2.4 overs which was the first out and when he was out his team's run was 16. Second, Mohammad Ishaq lost their wicket in 7.6 overs which was the second wicket, and when he was out his team's runs were 46. Third, Rahmat Shah was out in 20.6 overs which was the third wicket and when he was out his team runs were 119. So, that was a situation of the top-order, The openers didn't play too much but Rahmat Shah played very well.

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December 25, 2023, 12:53:11 PM
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At this time, United Arab Emirates one wicket is left and now there are very close to losing this match. They made 104 runs and lost 9 wickets, such a poor performance by them.

The 6 wickets fell to the Afghanistan team, and first, Riaz Hassan lost their wicket in 2.4 overs which was the first out and when he was out his team's run was 16. Second, Mohammad Ishaq lost their wicket in 7.6 overs which was the second wicket, and when he was out his team's runs were 46. Third, Rahmat Shah was out in 20.6 overs which was the third wicket and when he was out his team runs were 119. So, that was a situation of the top-order, The openers didn't play too much but Rahmat Shah played very well.
Now the all team out on 105 runs. Such a bad performance by United Arab Emirates. They were good in bowling. But in batting line they disappointed me.
Afghanistan bowling line is good by the way. Especially Yamin Ahmadzai performance is admirable. He collected 5 wickets in 6.4 overs for 22 runs. Fareed Ahmad and Bilal Sami also collected 2,2 wickets. In United Arab Emirates there are 4 players are those who didn't make a single runs and out on zero runs.
They have one more tour match and after that they have T20I series. But in today match UAE shows that they are little bit weak in performance as compare to Afghanistan so I hope that Afghanistan will win the next tour match and also the T20I series.

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December 25, 2023, 01:28:14 PM
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In first game, UAE won the toss and first decided bowling. Afghanistan batsman makes 17 run in 3 over and 1 out. Afghanistan batsman could not worked hard and struggle. Afghanistan batsman makes 42 run in 7 over and 1 out. UAE bowler out the Afghanistan batsman in the last ball of the 8 over. This is the second achievement for UAE team. Afghanistan batsman makes 61 run in 10 over and 2 outs. Afghanistan batsman could not make run. Afghanistan batsman makes 115 run in 20 over and 2 outs. Afghanistan batsman makes 214 run in 48 over and 10 outs. This is the target for UAE team. This is easy target. Afghanistan batsman could not worked hard and struggle. Now let's see UAE batsman can complete this target.UAE can complete this target very easily as 215 runs in 50 overs is easily achieved.
Tour match was finished now and UAE batting inning also ended now, at the end of their batting inning, UAE squad scored only 105 scores and UAE squad played almost 30.4 overs and all squad got out from crease. Afghanistan squad was not  made good scores but their bowling inning was wonderful and they break down all batters of UAE squad when 109 scores were remained for defend. Only this Dhruv Parashar  batter played good inning and he collected 38 scores off 61 deliveries.

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December 25, 2023, 01:42:06 PM
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Bangladesh team is performing worse than before. Bangladesh team has good batsmen and bowling, after that Bangladesh team cannot perform well
Mate, bangladesh performance was good enough when first ODI started. They did 250 run and Australia all out within 131 run. Then bd performance decreased and both team done the same run but a little higher run done by Australia made them win. Afterwards in 3rd ODI, the performance of Bangladesh became super worst. They only able to scored only 100 run as response where Nadine and Ayabonga Khaka got 3 wickets each while Australia this time become so stranger and 316 run target was given to bangladesh. Tazmin Brits 118(124) or Laura Wolvaardt 126 (134) any of them was enough for won the match behalf of Australia in comparison of the score did by whole Bangladesh team. Still thinking about the worst performance reason behind Bangladesh woman as they had performance in last two ODI before this 3rd one

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December 25, 2023, 02:31:46 PM
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Bangladesh team is performing worse than before. Bangladesh team has good batsmen and bowling, after that Bangladesh team cannot perform well
The performance of Bangladesh women's team is fairly good but Bangladesh women's team did not perform so well in the third ODI against South Africa women. If Bangladesh women team could have bowled well against South Africa women team then maybe the result of the match could have been different. Because South Africa women's team gave a target of 317 runs to Bangladesh women's team. Maybe the Bangladesh women's team could not take so much pressure on the target of 317 runs and the batsmen could not bat very well. Of course, best wishes to the Bangladesh women's team so that they can perform better in the future.

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December 25, 2023, 02:43:16 PM
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Tour match was finished now and UAE batting inning also ended now, at the end of their batting inning, UAE squad scored only 105 scores and UAE squad played almost 30.4 overs and all squad got out from crease. Afghanistan squad was not  made good scores but their bowling inning was wonderful and they break down all batters of UAE squad when 109 scores were remained for defend. Only this Dhruv Parashar  batter played good inning and he collected 38 scores off 61 deliveries.

This result was expected because Afghanistan team is much stronger then UAE. Yamin Ahmadzai took five wickets along with Bilal Sami who took two early wickets. Interestingly UAE were 66 for 9 in 19 overs and they finished there innings at 105. The last batting pair has highest partnership of UAE innings scoring 39 runs. Only two UAE batsmen were able to make it to double figures. Not much impressive batting from UAE today though they bowled well.

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December 25, 2023, 03:16:48 PM
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In first game, UAE won the toss and first decided bowling. Afghanistan batsman makes 17 run in 3 over and 1 out. Afghanistan batsman could not worked hard and struggle. Afghanistan batsman makes 42 run in 7 over and 1 out. UAE bowler out the Afghanistan batsman in the last ball of the 8 over. This is the second achievement for UAE team. Afghanistan batsman makes 61 run in 10 over and 2 outs. Afghanistan batsman could not make run. Afghanistan batsman makes 115 run in 20 over and 2 outs. Afghanistan batsman makes 214 run in 48 over and 10 outs. This is the target for UAE team.
Afghanistan won this match by 109 runs against UAE. Afghanistan batting first and scored 214 runs all out in first inning of match.While chasing down UAE scored 105 runs all out in just 30.4 overs. Dhruv Parashar batting well scored 38 runs unbeaten in just 61 balls. The bowling performance of Afghanistan team in this match very amazing and especially the batting performance of Yamin Ahmadzai is outstanding picked 5 important wicktes by giving 22 runs in 6.4 overs.



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December 25, 2023, 04:32:42 PM
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In first game, UAE won the toss and first decided bowling. Afghanistan batsman makes 17 run in 3 over and 1 out. Afghanistan batsman could not worked hard and struggle. Afghanistan batsman makes 42 run in 7 over and 1 out. UAE bowler out the Afghanistan batsman in the last ball of the 8 over. This is the second achievement for UAE team. Afghanistan batsman makes 61 run in 10 over and 2 outs. Afghanistan batsman could not make run. Afghanistan batsman makes 115 run in 20 over and 2 outs. Afghanistan batsman makes 214 run in 48 over and 10 outs. This is the target for UAE team.
Afghanistan won this match by 109 runs against UAE. Afghanistan batting first and scored 214 runs all out in first inning of match.While chasing down UAE scored 105 runs all out in just 30.4 overs. Dhruv Parashar batting well scored 38 runs unbeaten in just 61 balls. The bowling performance of Afghanistan team in this match very amazing and especially the batting performance of Yamin Ahmadzai is outstanding picked 5 important wicktes by giving 22 runs in 6.4 overs.

After Afghanistan set a target of just 215 runs, I thought the match was going to be competitive. 215 runs is not really a big target. But the match was not competitive. Afghanistan players dominated the match. We saw very bad batting by UAE players today.

None of the first 6 batsmen of the top order of the UAE squad could collect even 10 runs. The first 6 batsmen collected only 19 runs. Parashar's unbeaten 38 and Jawadullah's 24 helped the team score 100+ runs. Otherwise UAE would have lost all the wickets before 50. Yamin Ahmedzai picked up 5 wickets for just 22 runs. Bilal Sami also picked up two important top-order wickets.

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December 25, 2023, 04:42:03 PM
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The tour match was started from a long time and at this time, we cannot say which team will win but maybe I think that the Afghanistan team will win because UAE's batting is not like something to worry about and they cannot face the bowlers of Afghanistan like Abdul Rahman and many more, Rashid Khan and Fazal al Farooqi and Naveen Ul Haq didn't play this match. In this match, they gave a chance to youngsters to perform a particular performance.
Hashmatullah Shahidi is the captain of the team, and by the way, this is the only match that plays at Christmas.

Afghanistan last batting pair is on the crease. After 47 overs they have scored 214 runs and I think UAE has done a good job to restrict Afghans to such a low total. UAE team is made up of players from South Asia and they have tendency to chase such a small target. Though UAE recently finished second in U-19 Asia cup, it wont make any difference to there domestic setup as there is no interest of cricket in locals and there cricket team is entirely made up of expats.

Riaz Hassan made 13 runs in 12 balls. Mohammad Ishaq made 22 runs in 21 balls. Rahmat Shah made 38 runs in 54 balls. Bahir Shah made 44 runs and he used 64 balls.

The captain of Afghanistan Hashmatullah Shahidi made nine runs in eight balls. Darwish Rasooli made 3 runs in 10 balls. Gulbadin Naib made 42 runs in 51 balls. Sharafuddin Ashraf made 24 runs in 48 balls. Azmatullah Omarzai made 2 runs in 4 balls. Abdul Rahman is not out but all the teams have been out, and he made 2 runs in 6 balls. Zia-ur-Rehman  made 2 runs in 6 balls.

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