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November 25, 2023, 12:05:55 AM
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Don't they played some good knocks in the final except the Kohli but all was in vain. We have not seen some good performance from the Virat Kohli in his previous matches. The India Team has given all his efforts in the final but the problem is they could not achieve what they have to do? Do you know what they have to show is that they have to give a huge target to the Australian team because the Australian team is in always in form from its previous matches. The more target was given to them they had easily achieved that target in the World Cup.

Final game has its own pressure and you can't give a target of 350 in ODI worldcup final. What have been an ideal target on that day was 280, which India failed to achieve. Kohli and KL score runs but they both got out when India need them on crease for scoring runs. Rohit should have been more careful in the final, his wicket proved to be turning point of the game.
Playing with extra pressure in the final game doesn't give much, whereas India may have batted in desperation against Australia. If they give a target of 350, India team can definitely beat Australia but there the target of 240 runs is very low. Rohit Sharma's dismissal hurt India more, he could have scored more runs if he could have done better. However, if Virat Kohli and KL Rahul both improved their game a little more, they could have scored more runs. But I think the Indian team did not play cautiously thinking that they might win the match in the final, but that target was not met but rather the opposite.

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November 25, 2023, 03:53:25 AM
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Don't they played some good knocks in the final except the Kohli but all was in vain. We have not seen some good performance from the Virat Kohli in his previous matches. The India Team has given all his efforts in the final but the problem is they could not achieve what they have to do? Do you know what they have to show is that they have to give a huge target to the Australian team because the Australian team is in always in form from its previous matches. The more target was given to them they had easily achieved that target in the World Cup.

Final game has its own pressure and you can't give a target of 350 in ODI worldcup final. What have been an ideal target on that day was 280, which India failed to achieve. Kohli and KL score runs but they both got out when India need them on crease for scoring runs. Rohit should have been more careful in the final, his wicket proved to be turning point of the game.
The way Rohit Sharma started the 2023 World Cup final. Gill could have accompanied him then maybe India could have scored a good run in the final. India's all out for 240 runs in the final match in the race for the title was really disappointing for the Indian cricket fans. In 2003, India also failed to win the championship after losing to Australia. The same thing happened in the 2023 World Cup final. 2023 World Cup may be the former cricketers of India wanted to avenge the 203  bone by defeating Australia in the final. But who knew Australia would win the toss and bowl brilliantly. Bowling will bowl strong batsmen like India all out for 240 runs.

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November 25, 2023, 04:11:28 AM
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The way Rohit Sharma started the 2023 World Cup final. Gill could have accompanied him then maybe India could have scored a good run in the final. India's all out for 240 runs in the final match in the race for the title was really disappointing for the Indian cricket fans. In 2003, India also failed to win the championship after losing to Australia. The same thing happened in the 2023 World Cup final. 2023 World Cup may be the former cricketers of India wanted to avenge the 203  bone by defeating Australia in the final. But who knew Australia would win the toss and bowl brilliantly. Bowling will bowl strong batsmen like India all out for 240 runs.

For India, it is time to move on. ODI cricket will be in low priority for some time now. At least until the T20I World Cup of 2024 gets completed, all the attention is going to be on the shorter format. Both Virat and Rohit will be remembered as great players who put up exceptional individual performances, but never able to win a major ICC trophy. For them, the time is running out. Virat is 35 years old, while Rohit is one year elder to him. They have another 2 years of international cricket left at the most. And this means that the 2024 tournament is going to be their last chance.

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November 25, 2023, 05:39:30 AM
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As said India should've scored 280+ runs. Kohli, Rohit and Rahul did things in a responsible way. It was Gill and Shreyas Iyer who collapsed everything, just think of those two players contributing 20+ runs each. The ideal target could've been reached. We can't blame anyone, because the match have been planned for some political agenda and things didn't work as they planned which is really good in my point of view. At the end Surya Kumar did nothing and the bowling and fielding is really good from Australia.
Valid points. So many people are blaming players like Kohli, Rahul etc for silly reasons while the actual players that should be blamed are Sky, Gill etc who didn't perform well throughout the tournament.

Personally, I am proud of Kohli, Rahul, Rohit, Bumrah, Shami etc since they will be remembered for their accomplishments in WC 2023.

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November 25, 2023, 06:08:20 AM
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The way Rohit Sharma started the 2023 World Cup final. Gill could have accompanied him then maybe India could have scored a good run in the final. India's all out for 240 runs in the final match in the race for the title was really disappointing for the Indian cricket fans. In 2003, India also failed to win the championship after losing to Australia. The same thing happened in the 2023 World Cup final. 2023 World Cup may be the former cricketers of India wanted to avenge the 203  bone by defeating Australia in the final. But who knew Australia would win the toss and bowl brilliantly. Bowling will bowl strong batsmen like India all out for 240 runs.

For India, it is time to move on. ODI cricket will be in low priority for some time now. At least until the T20I World Cup of 2024 gets completed, all the attention is going to be on the shorter format. Both Virat and Rohit will be remembered as great players who put up exceptional individual performances, but never able to win a major ICC trophy. For them, the time is running out. Virat is 35 years old, while Rohit is one year elder to him. They have another 2 years of international cricket left at the most. And this means that the 2024 tournament is going to be their last chance.
op You are right things change with time and some good players have to say goodbye. Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma will be remembered by the cricketing world for a lifetime. 2023 World Cup Rohit Sharma's team reached the final by playing very well. But I would say Rohit Sharma's bad luck didn't win Rohit Sharma the trophy. Now Rohit and Kohli have another chance in front of them that is the championship if they play well then maybe they can win the championship trophy. So they have to forget the pain of the Australia vs India final match and now focus on the championship top. They know they can win a Champions Trophy before Rohit Sharma and King Virat Kohli retire.

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November 25, 2023, 06:21:06 AM
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As said India should've scored 280+ runs. Kohli, Rohit and Rahul did things in a responsible way. It was Gill and Shreyas Iyer who collapsed everything, just think of those two players contributing 20+ runs each. The ideal target could've been reached. We can't blame anyone, because the match have been planned for some political agenda and things didn't work as they planned which is really good in my point of view. At the end Surya Kumar did nothing and the bowling and fielding is really good from Australia.
Valid points. So many people are blaming players like Kohli, Rahul etc for silly reasons while the actual players that should be blamed are Sky, Gill etc who didn't perform well throughout the tournament.

Personally, I am proud of Kohli, Rahul, Rohit, Bumrah, Shami etc since they will be remembered for their accomplishments in WC 2023.
If anyone criticizes the World Cup squad, it is nothing but stupidity. This year's Indian squad was not weak at all, everyone's performance was eye-catching. Kohli, Rohit Sharma, Shubman Gill, Mohammed Shami, Bumrah, Siraj's performance was worth seeing. But it is better not to criticize the performance of the entire squad with the final performance. Maybe India didn't win the World Cup at their own venue, maybe they were criticized as supporters, but compared to other teams, India this time was different and their performance was also different. However, India's final match with Australia did not go well with the supporters, which is why the supporters are angrily criticizing the players.

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November 25, 2023, 06:22:01 AM
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The way Rohit Sharma started the 2023 World Cup final. Gill could have accompanied him then maybe India could have scored a good run in the final. India's all out for 240 runs in the final match in the race for the title was really disappointing for the Indian cricket fans. In 2003, India also failed to win the championship after losing to Australia. The same thing happened in the 2023 World Cup final. 2023 World Cup may be the former cricketers of India wanted to avenge the 203  bone by defeating Australia in the final. But who knew Australia would win the toss and bowl brilliantly. Bowling will bowl strong batsmen like India all out for 240 runs.

For India, it is time to move on. ODI cricket will be in low priority for some time now. At least until the T20I World Cup of 2024 gets completed, all the attention is going to be on the shorter format. Both Virat and Rohit will be remembered as great players who put up exceptional individual performances, but never able to win a major ICC trophy. For them, the time is running out. Virat is 35 years old, while Rohit is one year elder to him. They have another 2 years of international cricket left at the most. And this means that the 2024 tournament is going to be their last chance.
This is normal because we have seen before that every team when there is a big tournament some format especially the different teams focus a little more on that format. Most of the teams have organized more ODI series around the 2023 ODI World Cup now that the ODI World Cup is over, every team's focus is now on the T20 World Cup. India is no exception, the BCCI decided to play a T20I series against Australia with a completely new team before the end of the World Cup where they defeated Australia in the first match of the five match T20I series with a new team and a new captain. The second match of this series will be played tomorrow where Team India is likely to win the second match as well. From the last IPL, India got many good players for T20 and this IPL might also see some good cricketers who might represent the T20 World Cup 2024.
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November 25, 2023, 08:55:58 AM
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The way Rohit Sharma started the 2023 World Cup final. Gill could have accompanied him then maybe India could have scored a good run in the final. India's all out for 240 runs in the final match in the race for the title was really disappointing for the Indian cricket fans. In 2003, India also failed to win the championship after losing to Australia. The same thing happened in the 2023 World Cup final. 2023 World Cup may be the former cricketers of India wanted to avenge the 203  bone by defeating Australia in the final. But who knew Australia would win the toss and bowl brilliantly. Bowling will bowl strong batsmen like India all out for 240 runs.

For India, it is time to move on. ODI cricket will be in low priority for some time now. At least until the T20I World Cup of 2024 gets completed, all the attention is going to be on the shorter format. Both Virat and Rohit will be remembered as great players who put up exceptional individual performances, but never able to win a major ICC trophy. For them, the time is running out. Virat is 35 years old, while Rohit is one year elder to him. They have another 2 years of international cricket left at the most. And this means that the 2024 tournament is going to be their last chance.
This is normal because we have seen before that every team when there is a big tournament some format especially the different teams focus a little more on that format. Most of the teams have organized more ODI series around the 2023 ODI World Cup now that the ODI World Cup is over, every team's focus is now on the T20 World Cup. India is no exception, the BCCI decided to play a T20I series against Australia with a completely new team before the end of the World Cup where they defeated Australia in the first match of the five match T20I series with a new team and a new captain. The second match of this series will be played tomorrow where Team India is likely to win the second match as well. From the last IPL, India got many good players for T20 and this IPL might also see some good cricketers who might represent the T20 World Cup 2024.
2023 World Cup India has won every match with dominance since its inception. Unfortunately, India's batsmen did not score enough runs against Australia in the final match, so they could not become the 2023 champions. In 2024, the ICC has scheduled a 5-series T20I series against Australia for the ICC Championship game Team India has fielded young players under the captaincy of Surya Kumar Yadav. In 2024 T20 World Cup two players from here may play in 2024 T20 Championship. With the 2024 T20 championship, maybe Virat Kohli's Rohit Sharma's cricket career can end. So Rohit Sharma King Kohli will want to keep the 2024 championship in their possession.

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November 25, 2023, 09:17:26 AM
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2023 World Cup India has won every match with dominance since its inception. Unfortunately, India's batsmen did not score enough runs against Australia in the final match, so they could not become the 2023 champions. In 2024, the ICC has scheduled a 5-series T20I series against Australia for the ICC Championship game Team India has fielded young players under the captaincy of Surya Kumar Yadav. In 2024 T20 World Cup two players from here may play in 2024 T20 Championship. With the 2024 T20 championship, maybe Virat Kohli's Rohit Sharma's cricket career can end. So Rohit Sharma King Kohli will want to keep the 2024 championship in their possession.

India had the strongest and most competent squad in the  history of cricket in this World Cup. Every  player in the squad was very talented and in form. Despite performing well in every match of the World Cup, in the end they could not win the title. This is  really sad for India. However, I have a lot of doubts about how India will do in the championship. Because  the 2025 championship will be held  in Pakistan. India has not played on Pakistan's pitch for a long time. So I have a lot of doubts whether Indian team players can win the title in Pakistan.

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November 25, 2023, 09:19:12 AM
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Don't they played some good knocks in the final except the Kohli but all was in vain. We have not seen some good performance from the Virat Kohli in his previous matches. The India Team has given all his efforts in the final but the problem is they could not achieve what they have to do? Do you know what they have to show is that they have to give a huge target to the Australian team because the Australian team is in always in form from its previous matches. The more target was given to them they had easily achieved that target in the World Cup.

Final game has its own pressure and you can't give a target of 350 in ODI worldcup final. What have been an ideal target on that day was 280, which India failed to achieve. Kohli and KL score runs but they both got out when India need them on crease for scoring runs. Rohit should have been more careful in the final, his wicket proved to be turning point of the game.

The Indian team's end result was very dire as only a few batting performers were really bad. If the opening batsman could have collected some good runs then the players of the Last India team would have been under a lot less pressure. But on this occasion, the bowling performance of the Australian team was very good due to which some players of the Indian team were dismissed for zero runs. India performed very well throughout the season but did not fare well against the Australian team at that time. Although the Australian team lost once to India, they put India under a lot of pressure in the final match. The decision to bat after winning the toss was the best.

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November 25, 2023, 11:39:43 AM
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Maybe India didn't win the World Cup at their own venue, maybe they were criticized as supporters, but compared to other teams, India this time was different and their performance was also different. However, India's final match with Australia did not go well with the supporters, which is why the supporters are angrily criticizing the players.
The problem here is that people usually tend to remember the ending/winners without caring much about the journey/losers. This is why so many are criticising India's bad performance in the final without looking at the entire picture.

One bad match doesn't negate all their accomplishments throughout the tournament if you ask me.

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Don't they played some good knocks in the final except the Kohli but all was in vain. We have not seen some good performance from the Virat Kohli in his previous matches. The India Team has given all his efforts in the final but the problem is they could not achieve what they have to do? Do you know what they have to show is that they have to give a huge target to the Australian team because the Australian team is in always in form from its previous matches. The more target was given to them they had easily achieved that target in the World Cup.

Final game has its own pressure and you can't give a target of 350 in ODI worldcup final. What have been an ideal target on that day was 280, which India failed to achieve. Kohli and KL score runs but they both got out when India need them on crease for scoring runs. Rohit should have been more careful in the final, his wicket proved to be turning point of the game.

The Indian team's end result was very dire as only a few batting performers were really bad. If the opening batsman could have collected some good runs then the players of the Last India team would have been under a lot less pressure. But on this occasion, the bowling performance of the Australian team was very good due to which some players of the Indian team were dismissed for zero runs. India performed very well throughout the season but did not fare well against the Australian team at that time. Although the Australian team lost once to India, they put India under a lot of pressure in the final match. The decision to bat after winning the toss was the best.
The Indian national team will never forget the 2023 World Cup final match, the final match was a disaster for them. King Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma never thought that they will be defeated like this in the final match. India's opener Rohit Sharma started fairly well. If Gill could have batted well with Rohit, the run target would have been bigger. Shreya Saiya did not play very well in the final match. Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohli, Rahul played a little better in the final match. K Rahul is playing like he is playing a test match thus scoring runs at a run rate. If the Indian batsmen could have given a target of 270 runs to Australia. Then India could have won the final match.

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The problem here is that people usually tend to remember the ending/winners without caring much about the journey/losers. This is why so many are criticising India's bad performance in the final without looking at the entire picture.

One bad match doesn't negate all their accomplishments throughout the tournament if you ask me.

You may start your journey very well, but if you do not reach your destination, then this is what happens. Our real goal is our destination, if we don't reach the destination, no one questions the previous performance. Unfortunately, the same thing happened with India. So now people are looking at the destination, people have forgotten the previous journey. it is characteristic of our Asian countries that they always appreciate the good performance of their team, but forget all their good performance at one mistake.

Now everyone is watching India's performance in the final, if you look at Australia, they did not perform well in the first matches of the World Cup, but luckily they won the final due to their good performance. However, it was a great opportunity for India to win the World Cup in front of their home crowd. However, such opportunities do not come often and India squandered a good opportunity. The people and players of India will never forget this defeat as one defeat robbed them of the World Cup.


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November 25, 2023, 03:10:47 PM
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The problem here is that people usually tend to remember the ending/winners without caring much about the journey/losers. This is why so many are criticising India's bad performance in the final without looking at the entire picture.

One bad match doesn't negate all their accomplishments throughout the tournament if you ask me.

If you performance of New Zealand and South Africa then they are good in every world cup except the fact they fail to perform in critical matches. If you cant win the final then there is no incentive of performing well in prior part of the tournament. Indians were unbeaten throughout the tournament and this give them feeling that they will easily win the final also. Odds were also in favour of India but the story went in other direction. Losses in start of tournament are good as they gave you lesson about your weaknesses. 
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The problem here is that people usually tend to remember the ending/winners without caring much about the journey/losers. This is why so many are criticising India's bad performance in the final without looking at the entire picture.

One bad match doesn't negate all their accomplishments throughout the tournament if you ask me.

If you performance of New Zealand and South Africa then they are good in every world cup except the fact they fail to perform in critical matches. If you cant win the final then there is no incentive of performing well in prior part of the tournament. Indians were unbeaten throughout the tournament and this give them feeling that they will easily win the final also. Odds were also in favour of India but the story went in other direction. Losses in start of tournament are good as they gave you lesson about your weaknesses. 

Yes, I absolutely agree with @WatChe because, in almost every World Cup, South Africa seems to reach the semi-final. But eventually, they lost in the semifinals. It does not matter if you win every single match in the World Cup, but you cannot win the final. Because that ultimately means you are not winning the World Cup. And India had everything in their favour. So they definitely cannot make any excuse as well. I also think that India had the whole tournament in easy mode and that's why they didn't take the final against Australia, seriously especially when Australia had to struggle.

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November 25, 2023, 04:27:34 PM
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The problem here is that people usually tend to remember the ending/winners without caring much about the journey/losers. This is why so many are criticising India's bad performance in the final without looking at the entire picture.

One bad match doesn't negate all their accomplishments throughout the tournament if you ask me.

Our real goal is our destination, if we don't reach the destination, no one questions the previous performance. Unfortunately, the same thing happened with India. So now people are looking at the destination, people have forgotten the previous journey. it is characteristic of our Asian countries that they always appreciate the good performance of their team, but forget all their good performance at one mistake.
In any game win and loss are common features, one team will lose and one will win. It is not less that India has won so many matches. However, they didn't win the World Cup title in this season. They have won consecutively all the matches but the dream world cup in their home ground could not win. For them I can call it an accident. They were definitely the best team to win the World Cup but the performance in the last match was not showed. We often say that "All's well that ends well" if we think of it from the perspective India have not done well but if we talk based on their overall performance then they are definitely the best team.

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November 25, 2023, 04:41:55 PM
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The problem here is that people usually tend to remember the ending/winners without caring much about the journey/losers. This is why so many are criticising India's bad performance in the final without looking at the entire picture.

One bad match doesn't negate all their accomplishments throughout the tournament if you ask me.

Our real goal is our destination, if we don't reach the destination, no one questions the previous performance. Unfortunately, the same thing happened with India. So now people are looking at the destination, people have forgotten the previous journey. it is characteristic of our Asian countries that they always appreciate the good performance of their team, but forget all their good performance at one mistake.
In any game win and loss are common features, one team will lose and one will win. It is not less that India has won so many matches. However, they didn't win the World Cup title in this season. They have won consecutively all the matches but the dream world cup in their home ground could not win. For them I can call it an accident. They were definitely the best team to win the World Cup but the performance in the last match was not showed. We often say that "All's well that ends well" if we think of it from the perspective India have not done well but if we talk based on their overall performance then they are definitely the best team.
A team can consistently win games but sometimes they lose the game due to their luck and disruption in their preparation, sudden exit of a good player can have many reasons to lose a match like India lost the final match. It's true that India played well, but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll win. Australia is known as a good hall in cricket and on that day Australia prepared very well and were able to bat well with it so they came to the final match and won. And if they were not a good team, they would not have qualified for the final match.  So there is not much surprise for Australia to win



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November 25, 2023, 05:02:59 PM
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Another cricket legend has decided to take retirement and this legend's name is Imad Wasim from Pakistan. He is one of the best all-rounders of Pakistan. He played his last international match on April 2023 against New Zealand. We can’t have a match like this hope where we know that it is the last match of Imad Wasim. How he came into the team and how he took retirement. We lost another best player. I also give you a photo where he says that it’s time to retire because he can’t manage in the team so that’s why he decided to take retirement.



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November 25, 2023, 05:07:21 PM
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Don't they played some good knocks in the final except the Kohli but all was in vain. We have not seen some good performance from the Virat Kohli in his previous matches. The India Team has given all his efforts in the final but the problem is they could not achieve what they have to do? Do you know what they have to show is that they have to give a huge target to the Australian team because the Australian team is in always in form from its previous matches. The more target was given to them they had easily achieved that target in the World Cup.

Final game has its own pressure and you can't give a target of 350 in ODI worldcup final. What have been an ideal target on that day was 280, which India failed to achieve. Kohli and KL score runs but they both got out when India need them on crease for scoring runs. Rohit should have been more careful in the final, his wicket proved to be turning point of the game.
Yes you are right.  Both the teams are under pressure in the final match as they come to Finnal with so much effort.  Who will win?If India had tried and struggled they would have won the match. Kohli and RK Rahul tried but the other batsmen could not.Australia could not have won this match if other batsmen had tried. Virat played very well but after virat could not well played and out. Had Virat continued to play they might have won.  But Virat got out and put the other batsmen under pressure.But other batsman could not effort and lose the finnal match. RK Rahul and virat played very well but other batsman played waste the effort for RK Rahul and virat.If the Indian bowlers bowled fast, maybe Australia could not win the match. All past matches indian batsman and bowler played very well but finnal match could not played very well and lose the match.

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November 25, 2023, 05:49:49 PM
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Another cricket legend has decided to take retirement and this legend's name is Imad Wasim from Pakistan. He is one of the best all-rounders of Pakistan. He played his last international match on April 2023 against New Zealand. We can’t have a match like this hope where we know that it is the last match of Imad Wasim. How he came into the team and how he took retirement. We lost another best player. I also give you a photo where he says that it’s time to retire because he can’t manage in the team so that’s why he decided to take retirement.

Finally, Imad Wasim took the retirement from cricket and now we don’t see him in any international match. Imad Wasim's journey is a great journey in cricket,

I want to tell you a thing which I know that most people don’t know, which is Imad Wasim didn’t born in Pakistan, he was born in England but when he was 2 years so he has come to Pakistan and after that when he was young, he played cricket for Pakistan and he won a lot of matches for Pakistan. By the way, I do not know the exact date but I think that on 17 November he told on a Pakistan TV show that if he becomes a captain so he given an opportunity to Amir to play again but now he also resigned from cricket.

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