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November 22, 2023, 04:26:06 PM
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Exactly they made an excellent decision by giving the first turn to Indian team. Australia tried well and collect the main wickets of Indian team. And made pressure on Indian team. And restricted them under 250 runs.

I really appreciate the batting line of Australia and the management of the batsman when they looked they are loosing the matches fastly. India was giving first overs to the top bowlers means the Bumrah and Sami were bowling and they collected 3 wickets in first 7 overs. After that Australia waited and hold the wickets like Travis Head was playing well. When they saw top bowlers are not coming now so they started to make runs. After that we can see Travis Head made century and Australia won the match. And the World Cup too.

In the whole Australian batting I didn't notice a single time that  the match were on the side of Indian Team because I have seen the match were only in the hands of Australia Team as you have also seen that. Just in the first 10 overs I have seen when the 3 wickets of Australia falls then may be there was a condition in which they wants to regain themselves but no change after that I have seen in the Australia batting till the end of the game.

BTW great bowling from the Indian skippers if they made some runs then they can easily win the match but there runs were very less against the team which is Australia and which can also chase huge targets many times.

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November 22, 2023, 04:28:48 PM
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Anyway, India has a chance to win this World Cup but the toss played a big role in the final as well. Due to BCCI's terrible decision and Starsport's decision, they organized a Day-Night match where both teams did not have a fair chance to fight. We could have seen a more exciting final match than this one. But no worries, I am sad at all.
The pitch did play a big role in Australia's win for sure, but these are all just excuses at the end of the day. Fact is that Australia was the better team in the final plain and simple while India choked once again.

I truly detest the fact that pitch conditions are different for both teams in the same match which is an unfair aspect of cricket.
Yes, the final match pitch is very slow and in first inning ball doesn't come on bat properly. But in second innings ball come on bat and Australia played very well cricket but the decision of bat first is very important for Australia. Unfortunately india loss the toss and as well lose the match due to fall early wickets of indian team and all out in just 240 runs. I think This 241 target is very low for Australia beacuse they have quality batting line and Travis head and Labuschagne that partnership will helped Australia to win world cup final easily.



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November 22, 2023, 05:08:32 PM
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The way the 2023 World Cup Indian team has performed there is no doubt that they cannot become champions Even after that, the Indian team is the champion for me. That's because the 2023 World Cup is India's only team that hasn't lost a single match in 10 consecutive matches. First place in the points table secures the semi-finals. Team India confirmed the final by winning against New Zealand with power. But if the Indian team could have improved their batting a bit better against Australia in the final match, maybe the champion of the 2023 World Cup would have been King Virat Kohli. Honestly I am a big Kohli fan. I felt bad for Virat Kohli when they didn't win the World Cup. The game will be lost but everyone has to move forward. Best wishes to the Indian team and hope they play better in the future.

No one can deny that the Indian team has performed well in this World Cup, but despite such a good performance, when you lose the World Cup, then I don't see the benefit of this performance. Now New Zealand is also not the winner of the World Cup, South Africa is also not the winner, similarly India is also included in the same row with these two teams.

The performance of the Australian team was not good in the beginning of the World Cup, their batsmen and bowlers were constantly failing, but they reached the final of the World Cup and won the World Cup. No one will talk about Australia's opening performance anymore, but everyone will appreciate their performance in the final. I felt bad for the defeat of South Africa David Miller in the semi-final despite his brilliant century, because David Miller was at his best when his team was in dire straits, but still could not win.


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November 22, 2023, 05:49:04 PM
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No one can deny that the Indian team has performed well in this World Cup, but despite such a good performance, when you lose the World Cup, then I don't see the benefit of this performance. Now New Zealand is also not the winner of the World Cup, South Africa is also not the winner, similarly India is also included in the same row with these two teams.

The performance of the Australian team was not good in the beginning of the World Cup, their batsmen and bowlers were constantly failing, but they reached the final of the World Cup and won the World Cup. No one will talk about Australia's opening performance anymore, but everyone will appreciate their performance in the final. I felt bad for the defeat of South Africa David Miller in the semi-final despite his brilliant century, because David Miller was at his best when his team was in dire straits, but still could not win.


South Africa played really good from the start but later they fail to provide a good cricket and the fans they have all have been sad because they didn't even show that the last matches they can win for it. The fans were all talking about the Klaasen that he would make some runs but he also fails to do so. And also when the Miller came to the crease he has made a good runs but all was in vain. Even that was the end of the South Africa in the World Cup and thus they failed to achieve the win.

Although the game was really good between them but still we can take more examples as the India and Australia Final was one of them, just look at the Australia batting in the final it smashes the Indian Team really hard and won so easily.

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November 22, 2023, 05:51:42 PM
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In the whole Australian batting I didn't notice a single time that  the match were on the side of Indian Team because I have seen the match were only in the hands of Australia Team as you have also seen that. Just in the first 10 overs I have seen when the 3 wickets of Australia falls then may be there was a condition in which they wants to regain themselves but no change after that I have seen in the Australia batting till the end of the game.

BTW great bowling from the Indian skippers if they made some runs then they can easily win the match but there runs were very less against the team which is Australia and which can also chase huge targets many times.
In this 100 overs match India were in control for the first 10 overs while we have Rohit Sharma on crease, and they have 80 runs and 2 wickets gone but as India lost third wicket of Shreyas Iyar things gone out of the control even great Kohli was not able to bring back his team on track which was the biggest setback for them and K Rahul inning were completely mess-up because he was not in good touch and not able to give his best which was needed in this big match.

After having 240 target Australian were under pressure in early overs but as we have Travis Head and Marnus Labuschagne at crease all gone into their favor with Travis Head was playing another match winning inning after WTC final and bring his team champions for sixth time this was one of the best performance from the weakest Australian side against one of the best Indian side in world cup history.

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November 22, 2023, 06:09:35 PM
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Poor batting from:
Shubman Gill 4 runs,,  Shreyas Iyer 4 runs
Ravindra jadeja 9 runs,, SKY 18 runs
it shouldn't be expect from a team to play well and keep winning continuesly. A good team could also experience  ups and downs for different circumstances. So was happened with india after unstoppable winning. It seems they were under pressure cause indian people takes cricket seriously & emotionally more than other counties. That could be a reason behind their bad performance. Cause they already defeated Australia with healthy run. Besides Shubman Gill and Shreyas Iyer shound be played well, they were the hope and they also tried best but fortune wasn't in their favour. But SKY did bad in whole tournament. And the result is known to all. Well win & lost is common thing here but i really appreciate how Australia come back and manage the whole challenging circumstances

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November 22, 2023, 06:14:14 PM
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No one can deny that the Indian team has performed well in this World Cup, but despite such a good performance, when you lose the World Cup, then I don't see the benefit of this performance. Now New Zealand is also not the winner of the World Cup, South Africa is also not the winner, similarly India is also included in the same row with these two teams.

The performance of the Australian team was not good in the beginning of the World Cup, their batsmen and bowlers were constantly failing, but they reached the final of the World Cup and won the World Cup. No one will talk about Australia's opening performance anymore, but everyone will appreciate their performance in the final. I felt bad for the defeat of South Africa David Miller in the semi-final despite his brilliant century, because David Miller was at his best when his team was in dire straits, but still could not win.
Yeah, as we all know how things were happening in this event and Indian top order and bowlers were also giving their best in all 10 matches no one were thinking they can go down like this in final which is surely out of the course but here we have to praise Australians and their mentality as well which give them good advantage in big match, and they give their best in presence of the 93000 fans in stadium.

Head, Cummins and Starc were hero for them which turn the tables into their team's favor, and they bring this title sixth time which is another milestone for any team in cricket and any game their study of the all batsmen were also impressive with I really feel shocking Indian batsmen have only 4 boundaries in 40 overs which is really impressive from them and their team.

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November 22, 2023, 06:14:15 PM
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Poor batting from:
Shubman Gill 4 runs,,  Shreyas Iyer 4 runs
Ravindra jadeja 9 runs,, SKY 18 runs
it shouldn't be expect from a team to play well and keep winning continuesly. A good team could also experience  ups and downs for different circumstances. So was happened with india after unstoppable winning. It seems they were under pressure cause indian people takes cricket seriously & emotionally more than other counties. That could be a reason behind their bad performance. Cause they already defeated Australia with healthy run. Besides Shubman Gill and Shreyas Iyer shound be played well, they were the hope and they also tried best but fortune wasn't in their favour. But SKY did bad in whole tournament. And the result is known to all. Well win & lost is common thing here but i really appreciate how Australia come back and manage the whole challenging circumstances
Shubman Gill is a great player for India but his dismissal for just 4 runs in the final match made India very vulnerable. Due to which India could not target Australia with fair runs. On the other hand, Australia's bowling performance was also very good. All in all, Australia's fortunes worked very well in the final match. It hurt them a lot when India lost the final in their home game. And their dignity has been disturbed. I don't know why this situation happened in India.  But I strongly supported India that they will be champions this year.  But they failed



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November 22, 2023, 06:47:18 PM
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In this 100 overs match, India were in control for the first 10 overs while we have Rohit Sharma on crease, and they have 80 runs and 2 wickets gone but as India lost third wicket of Shreyas Iyar things went out of the control even great Kohli was not able to bring back his team on track which was the biggest setback for them and K Rahul inning were completely mess-up because he was not in good touch and not able to give his best which was needed in this big match.
In the final match, I noticed the whole Indian team was looking so tired because their fielding was so poor they stopped only that ball that came straight to them. India won 10 matches and all the Indian fans and players also were shocked at what was happening but when they realized the Australians had gone far away they only contained Australia through magic. On the other side Australia who came to the final in a very bad condition they got defeated by many teams. In the match with Afghanistan, they almost lost the match and no one could imagine that they would win that match but Maxwell stayed on the crease and made 202 runs which is an unbelievable score with a wounded leg. If they lose the match with Afghanistan then they will not face India in the final.
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No one can deny that the Indian team has performed well in this World Cup, but despite such a good performance, when you lose the World Cup, then I don't see the benefit of this performance. Now New Zealand is also not the winner of the World Cup, South Africa is also not the winner, similarly India is also included in the same row with these two teams.

The performance of the Australian team was not good in the beginning of the World Cup, their batsmen and bowlers were constantly failing, but they reached the final of the World Cup and won the World Cup. No one will talk about Australia's opening performance anymore, but everyone will appreciate their performance in the final. I felt bad for the defeat of South Africa David Miller in the semi-final despite his brilliant century, because David Miller was at his best when his team was in dire straits, but still could not win.


Indian had never perform good in this World Cup final,because many Indian fans expected the win in the finals.But the team batting was not to the expected one,only the captain game was good.Many people praise Kohli for the performance of 50th century in the ODI format and overtake the Sachin record in the ODI.But Kohli never showed his game in the important match of final,which was never expected one by his own fan itself.Kohli only playing the individual game in the cricket,it should be changed.The Australian players made his hundred percentage game,which was lagged by the team India.After Australia scored 160 runs,the Indian players never saved the fours and allow Australian to make the easy win.

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November 22, 2023, 07:16:17 PM
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Many people praise Kohli for the performance of 50th century in the ODI format and overtake the Sachin record in the ODI.But Kohli never showed his game in the important match of final,which was never expected one by his own fan itself.Kohli only playing the individual game in the cricket,it should be changed.
Seriously? Ridiculous nonsense. I am not the biggest fan of Kohli or anything, but I respect his accomplishments a lot and  he saved the Indian team so many times in recent history while breaking one record after another.

He was literally the highest scorer of the tournament which is why he should be the last person to blame for India's loss.

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November 22, 2023, 07:36:41 PM
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Poor batting from:
Shubman Gill 4 runs,,  Shreyas Iyer 4 runs
Ravindra jadeja 9 runs,, SKY 18 runs
it shouldn't be expect from a team to play well and keep winning continuesly. A good team could also experience  ups and downs for different circumstances. So was happened with india after unstoppable winning. It seems they were under pressure cause indian people takes cricket seriously & emotionally more than other counties. That could be a reason behind their bad performance. Cause they already defeated Australia with healthy run. Besides Shubman Gill and Shreyas Iyer shound be played well, they were the hope and they also tried best but fortune wasn't in their favour. But SKY did bad in whole tournament. And the result is known to all. Well win & lost is common thing here but i really appreciate how Australia come back and manage the whole challenging circumstances
Shubman Gill is a great player for India but his dismissal for just 4 runs in the final match made India very vulnerable. Due to which India could not target Australia with fair runs. On the other hand, Australia's bowling performance was also very good. All in all, Australia's fortunes worked very well in the final match. It hurt them a lot when India lost the final in their home game. And their dignity has been disturbed. I don't know why this situation happened in India.  But I strongly supported India that they will be champions this year.  But they failed
Not only Shubman gill but also all team did not play well in final. I saw for most teams in past World Cups which remained unbeatable,it didn't won the final. It seemd to me before final, India will lose this final. And in final , Travis head played a great role in success and he changed the fate of Australia but Australian fielding was also great in final and their bowlers performed very well and stoped India at only 240 score. India is good team but for winning World Cup, Luck should be with team.Virat Kohli was out by playing bad short and Rohit Sharma didn't show responsibility and he played bad short after scoring 10 runs in 2 balls. India is great team and they can win next World Cup.

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November 22, 2023, 08:12:07 PM
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No one can deny that the Indian team has performed well in this World Cup, but despite such a good performance, when you lose the World Cup, then I don't see the benefit of this performance. Now New Zealand is also not the winner of the World Cup, South Africa is also not the winner, similarly India is also included in the same row with these two teams.

The performance of the Australian team was not good in the beginning of the World Cup, their batsmen and bowlers were constantly failing, but they reached the final of the World Cup and won the World Cup. No one will talk about Australia's opening performance anymore, but everyone will appreciate their performance in the final. I felt bad for the defeat of South Africa David Miller in the semi-final despite his brilliant century, because David Miller was at his best when his team was in dire straits, but still could not win.


South Africa played really good from the start but later they fail to provide a good cricket and the fans they have all have been sad because they didn't even show that the last matches they can win for it. The fans were all talking about the Klaasen that he would make some runs but he also fails to do so. And also when the Miller came to the crease he has made a good runs but all was in vain. Even that was the end of the South Africa in the World Cup and thus they failed to achieve the win.

Although the game was really good between them but still we can take more examples as the India and Australia Final was one of them, just look at the Australia batting in the final it smashes the Indian Team really hard and won so easily.
South Africa batsman and bowler could not worked hard. And past matches are very well played but semi finnal are not well played. South Africa batsman and bowler could not passion and no worked hard.

Had South Africa tried, they would have gone to the final.All the past matches of India were played very well but in the final match Australia controlled the Indian team. And Australia won the finnal match.

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The defeat of the Indian cricket team in the final match against Australia can be attributed to various reasons. While the Australian bowlers displayed only average bowling quality, the Indian batsmen seemed to give away to the pressure of the importantl match. Despite Rohit Sharma providing a solid start, the top-order batsmen failed to capitalize on it. The collective nervousness of the Indian batsmen resulted in struggles against what was deemed average-quality bowling.
Right, the body language of Australian team is different they didn't take any pressure of final match of world cup. After winning the toss they decided bowl that a brilliant decision and picked the wicket of Shubman Gill that make huge impact after Rohit Sharma outstanding catch travis head. Virat kholi played sensible innings but unfortunately bad luck out by pat Cummins. Australia captain bowling changing decison was amazing they bring maxwell early in powerful and they picked the big wicket of indian captain Rohit Sharma and put all pressure of other bastmen. Australia chase down target was also outstanding especially travis head they played brilliant and helped to win world cup for Australia.
Australia took the final match against India as usual like all the other matches but India could not do the same, India put a lot of pressure in the final match of the World Cup. Most of the players in the India team were new to this World Cup but most of the Australian players had played in the 2019 World Cup and the Australian players were far ahead in terms of experience compared to the Indian players. Big tournaments like this require a lot of experience. The more experience a player has, the easier he can handle difficult situations. Australia used their experience and did not take too much pressure in the final match which led to an easy win against India.
They way Australia team played in final of world cup is outstanding and win 6th wolrd cup champions in 13th ODI world cup. India perform well in world cup win all group stage and semi final match but they lose big final dueto pressure of failure in world cup, a large 125k plus crowd in final appreciating india but they failed due to early falls of wickets. Australia they played amazingly restricted india under 250 runs and chase down the target early in loss of just 4 wickets. I think its a glory year for Australia as they win World Test Champions finàl and World cup champions.
 


Although 120,000 supporters were in favor of India, it seems that the crowd's voice worked against India. When such a large number of people chanted India India together, it made a mark in the minds of the Indian cricketers that they must win this final. Indian cricketers were afraid that if they lost the final for any reason, they would be under a lot of pressure. The extra push to win the match pushed them away from this match. India has a T20 series ahead of them against Australia, against whom India has performed poorly. Team India will perform well in the upcoming T20 series against Australia as Team India will play a lot of pressure free in the upcoming match.

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November 22, 2023, 08:36:17 PM
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Many people praise Kohli for the performance of 50th century in the ODI format and overtake the Sachin record in the ODI.But Kohli never showed his game in the important match of final,which was never expected one by his own fan itself.Kohli only playing the individual game in the cricket,it should be changed.
Seriously? Ridiculous nonsense. I am not the biggest fan of Kohli or anything, but I respect his accomplishments a lot and  he saved the Indian team so many times in recent history while breaking one record after another.

He was literally the highest scorer of the tournament which is why he should be the last person to blame for India's loss.
Every Indian cricket fan was expecting India to lift the trophy because that was the expectation after 10 straight wins but in finals, players just didn't turn up with their performances.

I can understand why some fans are doubting players but IMO it's temporary because of loss. The sooner they move on, the better and they just have to accept that the team lost the finals despite being in red hot form. It hurts but it happens, that's how the game of cricket or sports goes.   

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Indian team was just outplayed. There is no excuse. The captaincy of Australian team was absolutely on the point. They set up the field really well. It was a pretty unusual field setting in the middle of from Australia. They forced Virat Kohli to take a single through the third man region. And eventually, Virat Kohli got out trying to do that.  And Australia had a really good plan which they executed perfectly. And honestly, it did not matter how well India was going to bowl Australia had the capability of chasing the target. we have seen Australia winning impossible matches in this tournament. Especially against Afghanistan. And I think India was used to playing in fast pitches throughout the whole tournament, so when they eventually had to play in a slow pitch, they didn't do well.
When Australia lost the first two matches of the world cup, everyone of criticizing Pat Cummins for the failure because he was not aggressive as a captain and to win the rest of the match and then to have a great game plan to counter India in the final was marvelous. Credit should be given to the coaching staff and the captain for leading from the front through the tournament with the bat even though he did not play any fancy innings but was helping the team during crucial situations and with the ball and then executing them in the field was perfect.
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The defeat of the Indian cricket team in the final match against Australia can be attributed to various reasons. While the Australian bowlers displayed only average bowling quality, the Indian batsmen seemed to give away to the pressure of the importantl match. Despite Rohit Sharma providing a solid start, the top-order batsmen failed to capitalize on it. The collective nervousness of the Indian batsmen resulted in struggles against what was deemed average-quality bowling.
No matter how much you blame the bowlers, I don't see any fault with the bowlers. If the bowlers were given a big run target they would have done well enough but I don't think it is reasonable to lay claim on Mohammad Sami, Mohammad Siraj and Jasprit Bumrah, Jadejad on a target of 240 runs. The fault is mainly the extreme failure of the batters and the batting disaster.

People want players to perform better in all matches. If any bowler couldn't able to pick wicket despite of tough bowling then its mean the batsmen is more strategic and despite of crictism bowler we should appreciate batsmen. We want our favorite team win every match but it will not happen every time. Indian bowlers Muhammad Shamiz, Muhammad Siraj, Bumrah, Kuldeep and Jadeja bowling performance in this tournament was better than all team. In final Match Shami also gives break through and at start Indai chances of winning was high but Head was the player who stand there and make a history.
Mohammed Shami has taken almost five wickets in every match he has played. One got a wicket in the final match so can blame the bowlers in the final match. In this case I will admit that India is unlucky because India lost their luck that day. If India had won the toss and decided to field on that day, India could have become the champion of this World Cup. However, if the luck is bad, one has to fall into a bad situation from any side.

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Mohammed Shami has taken almost five wickets in every match he has played. One got a wicket in the final match so can blame the bowlers in the final match. In this case I will admit that India is unlucky because India lost their luck that day. If India had won the toss and decided to field on that day, India could have become the champion of this World Cup. However, if the luck is bad, one has to fall into a bad situation from any side.

Mohammed Shami found himself left out of the playing XI a few times recently, but in the end he managed to storm in to the squad. In the first few matches of the world cup, India decided to go with the combination of Mohammed Siraj and Jasprit Bumrah, and there was no room to include Shami. But despite all that, he finished the tournament as the top wicket taker. I was actually disappointed with the performance from both Siraj and Bumrah. They took wickets against weak opponents, but crumbled while bowling under pressure situations.

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Mohammed Shami has taken almost five wickets in every match he has played. One got a wicket in the final match so can blame the bowlers in the final match. In this case I will admit that India is unlucky because India lost their luck that day. If India had won the toss and decided to field on that day, India could have become the champion of this World Cup. However, if the luck is bad, one has to fall into a bad situation from any side.

Mohammed Shami found himself left out of the playing XI a few times recently, but in the end he managed to storm in to the squad. In the first few matches of the world cup, India decided to go with the combination of Mohammed Siraj and Jasprit Bumrah, and there was no room to include Shami. But despite all that, he finished the tournament as the top wicket taker. I was actually disappointed with the performance from both Siraj and Bumrah. They took wickets against weak opponents, but crumbled while bowling under pressure situations.
Muhammad Shami top wickets tacker bowler of the world cup they picked 24 wickets in just 9 matches of world cup and second Adam Zampa for picking 23 wickets in 11 matches and Virat kholi is top scorer of tournament but India lose the final match one soded that a quite disappointing for india. I think this lose not that Indian Bowler's didn't perform well but due to batting performance of team india is responsible beacuse if they are add 40 to 50 more runs in the total then it will be challenging for Australia to chase down. India didn't get advantage of home ground they losse match after Australia winning the toss in start of match.



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November 23, 2023, 03:26:31 AM
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Mohammed Shami has taken almost five wickets in every match he has played. One got a wicket in the final match so can blame the bowlers in the final match. In this case I will admit that India is unlucky because India lost their luck that day. If India had won the toss and decided to field on that day, India could have become the champion of this World Cup. However, if the luck is bad, one has to fall into a bad situation from any side.

Mohammed Shami found himself left out of the playing XI a few times recently, but in the end he managed to storm in to the squad. In the first few matches of the world cup, India decided to go with the combination of Mohammed Siraj and Jasprit Bumrah, and there was no room to include Shami. But despite all that, he finished the tournament as the top wicket taker. I was actually disappointed with the performance from both Siraj and Bumrah. They took wickets against weak opponents, but crumbled while bowling under pressure situations.
Siraj I can understand but lol why add Bumrah to this mix?

In the tournament, he bowled the most maiden overs + most dots balls with the best economy rate ( not counting Ash because he played only 1 match). He only went wicketless in one match and bowled 5 overs in that match. When you have so many wicket taking bowlers then ofc you won't fill your bag. The weakest link of the Indian bowling lineup, Siraj also took 14 wickets and then we had Jaddu (16), Kuldeep (15) and Shami (24). Also, guest appearances from Ash, Pandya and Thakur and they took wickets in their outing as well.






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