Honestly you need to let this go. You have made your opinion clear, and it has been duly noted.
If you want to continue participating here, you should find something else to talk about. theymos doesn't like, and tries to avoid perma banning very senior, longstanding forum members, but you have been banned many times before, and that is the path you are leading yourself down. I don't personally want you perma banned, but I am being honest with you.
1. observable instances are not opinions
2. we have never been banned nor could there be any valid reason that would stand up to scrutiny that would warrant such action from a reasonable warden of this board/movement.
3. suggesting that we no longer seek to highlight the financially motivated wrong doing of scammers and scam facilitators and their supporters on DT is both irresponsible bordering on untrustworthy.
4. Please ensure this is the last and final time that we need to explain to you clearly that your advice to refrain from telling the truth or pushing for improvements here is unwelcome and will be certainly ignored.
5. Suggesting that theymos would issue a ban for presenting observable instances of other members undeniable wrong doing and abuse is indeed suggesting that theymos is entirely corrupt and complicit with their deeds. If that was demonstrated to be true then there is far more to worry about than losing an account here. Imagine if other accounts were to ask for a detailed explanation for such a ban? Well says theymos ..some scammers abused his account and then he presented some observable instances from their pasts that demonstrated they were clearly scammers that had now gamed my genius systems of control to ensure they are untouchable and deserve to take all the best rev streams here. Oh and also him and his friends were likely the largest scam hunters in the history of the board, had perhaps made the most millionaires from their tips, fought for fair launch protocols for the pow launches and generally been part of more communities on this forum than any other member, with zero instances of financially motivated wrong doing and had NEVER had one of their central points debunked. That is why I decided to ban them all. ERR okay theymos, that sounds like a good reason. ( that is assuming we are both ourselves and are cryptohunter as some mistakenly believe)
6. Whilst our own account or the account of our friends remains abused and defamed then it will NEVER stop. Nor should you suggest it stops.
7. The systems of control are designed to only function at all with hostility and friction, there is no other way that even those bungled efforts could hope to regulate anything in the absence of threat and retaliation for abuse. Since we are not DT then there can be real enthusiasts and helpful members that offer the free service of a disincentive for abusing peoples accounts by bringing to light their own financially motivated wrong doing or highlighting their support of other abusers or wrong doers. So long as you present only the observable instances aka the truth then it can ONLY be seen as a positive thing if you are interested in seeing a fair and transparent system for all members?
Please digest those points and then understand that regardless of your true intentions, your suggestion to remain silent and permit abuse of our account by verifiable scammers and scammer supporters is becoming concerning.
Although we note some of your posts are of value and you seem to have a clearer mind than most here, you do not have the experience we have with the alt boards and the history of some of these members lurking around on DT in meta. Therefore, you perhaps do not grasp the full gravity of what you are suggesting we " forget all about".
Now again, please do not seek to silence us speaking the unadulterated truth in future. Else you will be viewed as concerning. There can be no other way to view a person who wishes the truth to be silenced, especially when dealing with such concrete evidence of scamming and other financially motivated wrong doing + trust abuse.
As you likely understand, it is quite impossible to ban the truth anyway. There will always be members willing to present the truth, no matter the threats or consequences for doing so. That is a good thing.
The truth is here to stay ... whilst there are undeniable dirty turds on Default Trust there can be no sensible nor commendable reason for suggesting we just forget all about it. Any attempts to silence it or delete it or prevent these truths being mentioned whenever they are on topic, relevant and valuable to the reader is to be viewed as hostile and untrustworthy.
If you believe we have connections to any other accounts other than this or as some believe the cryptohunter account, then I suggest you PM us first before announcing this in public, since you would be incorrect and also opening up innocent members to abuse at the hands of DT members that seem to have taken a dislike to honest bitcoin enthusiasts such as ourselves.
So thanks for the advice but please understand that observable instances of wrong doing that have as yet gone unpunished must never be silenced or forgotten. Certainly even more critical is those scammers and scam facilitators are abusing your account and enjoying positions of power and influence. This is bitcointalk right? not centralbankingtalk? or corruptscumbagtalk?
If you personally wish to endure the double standards abuse on your own account and still try to befriend or have hopes of sidling back into favor with them that is for your to decide. We will never befriend abusers or scammers nor their supporters.
Theymos claims infighting is counter productive, then develops systems where conflict is required. Where there is clear wrong doing and clear abuse, then fighting against that by the innocent and abused is never going to be accepted as negative by the vast majority (not meta board). It is every members duty else they are as much to blame as the scammers and abusers.
Since quickseller we note that your trust abuse in the context of the DT members own prior behaviors is unwarranted and clear double standards, better to worry less about what theymos feels or thinks and better to help him in areas he is grossly lacking good judgement by allowing undeniable scammers to take trust positions and all of the best rev streams whilst crushing free speech and creating and echo chamber. Think of it as a parent trying to remove the chemical laden sweet tasting candies and replace it with the nutritious organic veggie snacks. They will thank you for it eventually if at the time they wanted to ban you from telling them the truth that these seemingly tasty candies are poisonous dirt that must be thrown away before they cause serious health problems long term.
Besides theymos knows we are grateful to him and this forum and also that we have great respect for his views on many things. His posts are often inline with our own views (not his observably incorrect replies to us of course) and that it is upsetting to even have to see him dragged into all of this when likely he was just trying to mitigate his own legal accountability which we fully understand. Hence why we do not often directly criticize him only the designs of the systems of control and his lack of punishment to undeniable scammers and trust abusers)
@ foxpup
thank you , great to be back.
@ jared who?
A few of our alts on ignore? haha probably just our other 2508 hey, don't worry just mulling over our selections, like a kid in a sweet shop though. Only 61 votes is pretty good considering how much hassle it is to swap between so many accounts right?
We are often amazed at how many other members we are. Keep us all on ignore though.
" never before have so many ignored so much from so few"
Imagine being here since 2015 a legend and all that, and we never fucking heard of your before? I would ask you for a list of your achievements in the last 4 years but I would not want to make fun.
What communities have you been part of anyway? perhaps we have missed your vital contributions. We may even have some joint interests (projects) since we hold over 200 alts or more.
Has us all on ignore but can't resist coming to our threads though. That's the spirit.
When can I come over for breakfast, forget the ar15. I'll bring my own XL18 toaster you're going to like that much better.
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