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November 02, 2019, 03:53:04 PM |
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Most of the ICOs are just scams and repetitive. There is no reason to collect user's money in projects like these. User's got bored of this and eventually lost interest in investing. This is how the ICO market fell.
Except that the ico market *hasn't* exactly fallen yet. There are still a lot of projects coming out with stolen whitepapers, fake identities of team members, and bounties that don't pay or that require participants to do kyc right at the end. As soon as I stop seeing those scam accusation threads I'll be convinced that ico's are dead. Already started there is no bright spot that will arise in an ICO so it's time to go and find other ways to make coins that can make you a millionaire.
Good luck becoming a millionaire in crypto now. It was possible back in 2009-10 and maybe even up to 2015 if you had enough investment capital and had the foresight to hold bitcoin through 2017, but now everyone knows about bitcoin and I seriously doubt there's going to be growth like there was in the early days.
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November 02, 2019, 04:09:35 PM |
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hello friend, in 2017 I was very happy when I saw the price of Bitcoin increase in coinmarketcap because when the price of Bitcoin increases, then the price of Altcoin will immediately increase too, but for now when the price of Bitcoin increases and it does not affect for the prices of Altcoin (even still down), then when the price of Bitcoin goes down and at that time the price of Altcoin will go down too, so I do not understand the current state of the market and what is happening right now.
2017 was a cryptoseasons, most coins hyped and FOMOed by many people, that's why bitcoin and altcoins can grow even so high then, in 2018 and 2019 bearish market coming, we just see coin go down and down which make us scared in this time, just bitcoin can grow, altcoin doesnt. we have to wait until altseason hyped again so altcoin can grow too
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November 02, 2019, 11:49:08 PM |
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hello friend, in 2017 I was very happy when I saw the price of Bitcoin increase in coinmarketcap because when the price of Bitcoin increases, then the price of Altcoin will immediately increase too, but for now when the price of Bitcoin increases and it does not affect for the prices of Altcoin (even still down), then when the price of Bitcoin goes down and at that time the price of Altcoin will go down too, so I do not understand the current state of the market and what is happening right now.
I think you shouldn't panic, this is the price stabilization phase for Bitcoin. As you can see Bitcoin is still the king of the cryptocurrency market, it needs a lot of time to stabilize and grow. I believe that in a few months, Bitcoin will be more stable and its price will surpass $ 15,000. This is a good time for us to buy Bitcoin and hold them. Besides, we can also buy some potential altcoins such as Ethereum, Tether, Litecoin, EOS.
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November 03, 2019, 12:18:17 AM |
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hello friend, in 2017 I was very happy when I saw the price of Bitcoin increase in coinmarketcap because when the price of Bitcoin increases, then the price of Altcoin will immediately increase too, but for now when the price of Bitcoin increases and it does not affect for the prices of Altcoin (even still down), then when the price of Bitcoin goes down and at that time the price of Altcoin will go down too, so I do not understand the current state of the market and what is happening right now.
no one knows thats kind of how markets work.. remember - if everyone knew what the price of bitcoin should be tomorrow - it would go to that price imidietely so just invest with caution
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Shasha80
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November 03, 2019, 01:15:45 AM |
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If we talk about cryptocurrency in 2017, it will never be forgotten because in that year the most beautiful moment in the crypto world. Both bitcoin and altcoins at that time were at the highest price, entering 2018 until now the worst i feel. During these two years the long bearish market, many traders are vacant and even retired. But we don't may surrender to this situation, all we need is patience and confidence that the bullish market is coming soon. See many positive news in 2020 including halving bitcoin will make 2020 repeat the triumph of cryptocurrency like in 2017. Let's hold all the bitcoins and altcoins we have until the price of cryptocurrency returns to the top.
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November 03, 2019, 02:55:36 AM |
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hello friend, in 2017 I was very happy when I saw the price of Bitcoin increase in coinmarketcap because when the price of Bitcoin increases, then the price of Altcoin will immediately increase too, but for now when the price of Bitcoin increases and it does not affect for the prices of Altcoin (even still down), then when the price of Bitcoin goes down and at that time the price of Altcoin will go down too, so I do not understand the current state of the market and what is happening right now.
I think you shouldn't panic, this is the price stabilization phase for Bitcoin. As you can see Bitcoin is still the king of the cryptocurrency market, it needs a lot of time to stabilize and grow. I believe that in a few months, Bitcoin will be more stable and its price will surpass $ 15,000. This is a good time for us to buy Bitcoin and hold them. Besides, we can also buy some potential altcoins such as Ethereum, Tether, Litecoin, EOS. This is a very risky time to invest but I believe that anything can happen during this time so put your trust in the big coins that are available. I always analyze the volatility of this market every day and certainly Bitcoin can reach $15,000 in 2020. Of course this is just my prediction and everything needs to depend a lot on the investor as they can decide the next trend of this market. I usually don't worry much when investing in Bitcoin because this is the safest coin in the market and is held by a lot of other large investors so Bitcoin will certainly be pumped in the near future.
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November 03, 2019, 06:36:30 AM |
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It's because at the early of 2018 many projects are failed and some of the are scam. This is why investors are losing interest with altcoin and choosing bitcoin for long term investing
actually it has become a risk in investing with altcoin or crypto currency if the development of crypto or altcoin currencies cannot be predicted with certainty and it requires considerable confidence and patience as its main capital and are smart in utilizing every opportunity we will get
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zeze18
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November 03, 2019, 07:28:05 AM |
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If we talk about cryptocurrency in 2017, it will never be forgotten because in that year the most beautiful moment in the crypto world. Both bitcoin and altcoins at that time were at the highest price, entering 2018 until now the worst i feel. During these two years the long bearish market, many traders are vacant and even retired. But we don't may surrender to this situation, all we need is patience and confidence that the bullish market is coming soon. See many positive news in 2020 including halving bitcoin will make 2020 repeat the triumph of cryptocurrency like in 2017. Let's hold all the bitcoins and altcoins we have until the price of cryptocurrency returns to the top.
If we talked about good news, at the early of 2018 i found no bad news about cryptocurrency. Everybody has optimistic future for bitcoin and most of them predict the price of bitcoin at the end of 2018 is more than 50K USD. But anything can happen in crypto, many projects scam, bitcoin price crashed and investors left. But it didn't make me retire from cryptocurrency world and still waiting the throne of bitcoin to comeback but i'm not expecting next year or in near future, i've a plan for investing for 10 years ahead maybe it will be a promising and the price would go back to more than 20K USD in the future
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atjiat
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November 04, 2019, 05:29:35 PM |
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It's because at the early of 2018 many projects are failed and some of the are scam. This is why investors are losing interest with altcoin and choosing bitcoin for long term investing
actually it has become a risk in investing with altcoin or crypto currency if the development of crypto or altcoin currencies cannot be predicted with certainty and it requires considerable confidence and patience as its main capital and are smart in utilizing every opportunity we will get That's the initial capital that must be traversed to play virtual currencies. we will not always make a profit every day. Will taste the bitter and sweetness of the crypto world journey. but this is the most exciting thing where we can do things that are beyond our expectations. Cryptocurrency is not only the starting capital for a big business, because for some, cryptocurrency itself has become a source of large funds. Today, there are a lot of questions for the cryptocurrency market, but many of my friends invested their money in good projects and left all their assets for long-term storage, while only 20% of their assets are used for trading to make a profit almost daily.
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agentx44
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November 04, 2019, 07:30:11 PM |
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hello friend, in 2017 I was very happy when I saw the price of Bitcoin increase in coinmarketcap because when the price of Bitcoin increases, then the price of Altcoin will immediately increase too, but for now when the price of Bitcoin increases and it does not affect for the prices of Altcoin (even still down), then when the price of Bitcoin goes down and at that time the price of Altcoin will go down too, so I do not understand the current state of the market and what is happening right now.
I think it still affects the price of the altcoins. Bitcoin is known to be the most popular and most expensive coin of all time and most of the altcoins gets its support from it. You should always pay attention to the coin you are currently investing to but always make sure too that you watch out for bitcoin's price. You can get a better idea and decision making if you are aware on how bitcoin's getting manipulated. Make actions , even the smallest one would matter in time of desperation.
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rizkyalhabsy
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November 08, 2019, 08:53:32 PM |
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No one knows why alcoin is not affected by BTC anymore so BTC is very strong in the top line and alcoin is still going down even though BTC has increased. is it possible that bitcoin is a very good coin to invest in or maybe this is yes does anyone want to add?
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Lecam
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November 09, 2019, 02:30:08 AM |
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hello friend, in 2017 I was very happy when I saw the price of Bitcoin increase in coinmarketcap because when the price of Bitcoin increases, then the price of Altcoin will immediately increase too, but for now when the price of Bitcoin increases and it does not affect for the prices of Altcoin (even still down), then when the price of Bitcoin goes down and at that time the price of Altcoin will go down too, so I do not understand the current state of the market and what is happening right now.
The happening right now market are still not stable especially the bitcoin price 2017 bitcoin price is so high then so fast to down that is why give a big effect on altcoins too. Maybe now bitcoin need to recover that but not so fast is taken slow. We must have wait and have patience for that time to increase again the price of bitcoin and also altcoins.
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BartS
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November 09, 2019, 04:03:05 AM |
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Already started there is no bright spot that will arise in an ICO so it's time to go and find other ways to make coins that can make you a millionaire.
Good luck becoming a millionaire in crypto now. It was possible back in 2009-10 and maybe even up to 2015 if you had enough investment capital and had the foresight to hold bitcoin through 2017, but now everyone knows about bitcoin and I seriously doubt there's going to be growth like there was in the early days. It is never going to be as easy as it was back then but someone that had a decent capital could still become a millionaire with cryptocurrencies, but if you are only using the top coins then I estimate you will need at least 100000 dollars and decent skills as a trader. Even if bitcoin only produced 5x during the next decade a talented trader should be able to get at least twice that amount, is it possible to get 10x during the next decade? I believe so but few will have the patience to pull it off.
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miningguru
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November 09, 2019, 06:36:41 AM |
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No one knows why alcoin is not affected by BTC anymore so BTC is very strong in the top line and alcoin is still going down even though BTC has increased. is it possible that bitcoin is a very good coin to invest in or maybe this is yes does anyone want to add?
Altcoin price is becoming stable in the market even though the price of Bitcoin fluctuates, so definitely we are going to see altcoin upward trend in the market. Yes, Bitcoin is one of the best coins in the market where we should hold them in the long term instead of selling for the lowest prices.
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November 09, 2019, 08:02:15 AM |
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I think it's natural because the altcoins season is not yet time to happen, I believe when the altcoins season comes later the price of altcoins will definitely surge too. We are aware of the bear market that occurred after a strong bullish trend in 2017 and the bear market is very dominating throughout the year, this is just about time so whatever happens every year is a process for better growth, still to be consistent with patience and confidence the strong one.
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November 09, 2019, 10:01:40 AM |
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I think it's natural because the altcoins season is not yet time to happen, I believe when the altcoins season comes later the price of altcoins will definitely surge too. We are aware of the bear market that occurred after a strong bullish trend in 2017 and the bear market is very dominating throughout the year, this is just about time so whatever happens every year is a process for better growth, still to be consistent with patience and confidence the strong one.
A lot of people believe that the altcoin season is coming but I think we can continue to stay in the bear market for a few more years because until now there hasn't been any specific analysis predicting the altcoin season. Now you may be optimistic about investing but don't rush to invest because any investment at this time will put you at great risk and will make people more worried. If you want to predict altcoin season, it is best to have more new investment funds join this market because if the whale does not pump, the crypto market will continue to maintain the downtrend.
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atjiat
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November 09, 2019, 02:28:16 PM |
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I think it's natural because the altcoins season is not yet time to happen, I believe when the altcoins season comes later the price of altcoins will definitely surge too. We are aware of the bear market that occurred after a strong bullish trend in 2017 and the bear market is very dominating throughout the year, this is just about time so whatever happens every year is a process for better growth, still to be consistent with patience and confidence the strong one.
A lot of people believe that the altcoin season is coming but I think we can continue to stay in the bear market for a few more years because until now there hasn't been any specific analysis predicting the altcoin season. Now you may be optimistic about investing but don't rush to invest because any investment at this time will put you at great risk and will make people more worried. If you want to predict altcoin season, it is best to have more new investment funds join this market because if the whale does not pump, the crypto market will continue to maintain the downtrend. I think that many will agree with me that there are quite a lot of bad coins on the cryptocurrency market and nobody needs companies that have no future prospects. Not only I think so, but many cryptocurrency users, as well as analysts, argue that a very small amount of the total number of cryptocurrencies will remain in the future, because only the most popular cryptocurrencies will operate, as well as those that will be used by humans in practice . What is happening with the market today is most likely the result of the manipulation of speculators who, through their actions, support certain projects. But if the cryptocurrency market is cleared with the help of ordinary cryptocurrency users and investors, then a period of real correction of the entire market will come, after which only the most promising coins will remain.
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November 09, 2019, 06:51:07 PM |
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I think it's natural because the altcoins season is not yet time to happen, I believe when the altcoins season comes later the price of altcoins will definitely surge too. We are aware of the bear market that occurred after a strong bullish trend in 2017 and the bear market is very dominating throughout the year, this is just about time so whatever happens every year is a process for better growth, still to be consistent with patience and confidence the strong one.
A lot of people believe that the altcoin season is coming but I think we can continue to stay in the bear market for a few more years because until now there hasn't been any specific analysis predicting the altcoin season. Now you may be optimistic about investing but don't rush to invest because any investment at this time will put you at great risk and will make people more worried. If you want to predict altcoin season, it is best to have more new investment funds join this market because if the whale does not pump, the crypto market will continue to maintain the downtrend. I think that many will agree with me that there are quite a lot of bad coins on the cryptocurrency market and nobody needs companies that have no future prospects. Not only I think so, but many cryptocurrency users, as well as analysts, argue that a very small amount of the total number of cryptocurrencies will remain in the future, because only the most popular cryptocurrencies will operate, as well as those that will be used by humans in practice . What is happening with the market today is most likely the result of the manipulation of speculators who, through their actions, support certain projects. But if the cryptocurrency market is cleared with the help of ordinary cryptocurrency users and investors, then a period of real correction of the entire market will come, after which only the most promising coins will remain. but in real projects that do not have that development also get funding for the development of their projects. even their community is well built. unfortunately, they don't have good products and development. the average project is now like that. as a result, their markets are bad and their token price growth is also bad.
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November 09, 2019, 09:43:04 PM |
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hello friend, in 2017 I was very happy when I saw the price of Bitcoin increase in coinmarketcap because when the price of Bitcoin increases, then the price of Altcoin will immediately increase too, but for now when the price of Bitcoin increases and it does not affect for the prices of Altcoin (even still down), then when the price of Bitcoin goes down and at that time the price of Altcoin will go down too, so I do not understand the current state of the market and what is happening right now.
You need lot of information to understand that the market iis always fluctuates. If you ask why the market is always down then go up it because market is depending to what's in demand in the market. Bitcoin and altcoin will not same but as you see that bitcoin is increase and the altcoin in not because many investors buy btc and some are in altcoin. If bull run comes you will see the changes bitcoin will up and altcoins will follow.
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November 09, 2019, 10:12:24 PM |
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hello friend, in 2017 I was very happy when I saw the price of Bitcoin increase in coinmarketcap because when the price of Bitcoin increases, then the price of Altcoin will immediately increase too, but for now when the price of Bitcoin increases and it does not affect for the prices of Altcoin (even still down), then when the price of Bitcoin goes down and at that time the price of Altcoin will go down too, so I do not understand the current state of the market and what is happening right now.
We could not tell that yet on when the bitcoin going down or up the price and also the altcoins on when they increase the price again. And ill think it should need to do is to wait on what coming on them and always read sometimes some news if this will be have some bull run coming or not. But somebody said this month of November and december have a huge prices coming.
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