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September 08, 2019, 04:33:09 AM
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Miracle TELE is a professional scam done in conjunction with STEX Exchange. While would a token be listed and nobody can trade except the team alone. On their website, it says 0.2 EURO while on STEX exchange it was listed at the price of 0.5 EURO buy nobody can trade it, so there is an internal collaboration to deceive the public. Now, the Founder can no longer be found, he has removed himself from the official telegram account

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September 08, 2019, 09:04:32 AM
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Miracle TELE is a professional scam done in conjunction with STEX Exchange. While would a token be listed and nobody can trade except the team alone. On their website, it says 0.2 EURO while on STEX exchange it was listed at the price of 0.5 EURO buy nobody can trade it, so there is an internal collaboration to deceive the public. Now, the Founder can no longer be found, he has removed himself from the official telegram account

It is true that it is difficult to really understand what happened with stex. I kept a close look at this during months and Tele token value has been well above 1$/tele. It lasted several months, while users were not allowed to deposit / withdraw.

The time has come for a real and strong regulation so that this kind of mafia methods end !
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September 08, 2019, 11:18:48 AM
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I am not sure if Miracle Tele is a scam and it is unfortunate if this project has to stop because I have been using a sim card for about a month and the network quality is very good here.Hopefully there is truth from the dev side that they don't really run away

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September 08, 2019, 12:20:07 PM
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September 09, 2019, 07:09:52 AM
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It seems they are trying to fix the glitch… yep, the tokens are back.
You can stack them, but they keep hanging in an endless loop… maybe they still work on whatever happened on their website.

Firefox had a similar case this year:

https://www.techradar.com/news/a-technical-glitch-has-broken-everyones-firefox-extensions

Which left, over 250 million users without their favorite addons and caused the biggest tsunami of curses against Mozilla.

This MiracleTele thing looks more and more like a disastrous case of mismanagement than a preplanned scam.

We did some research (I’m trying to help a mate who was stupid enough to invest his wife’s savings into this thing) to do some math connected to MiracleTele and what should be their first-primary targets when they started this enterprise:

There are over 40,000 airports with codes given by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) with average, every day over 8 million people flying. In 2013 total passenger numbers were 3.1 billion—surpassing the 3 billion mark for the first time ever. That number is expected to grow to 3.3 billion in 2014 (equivalent to 44% of the world’s population)

Bus - bus industry services 1.5 billion urban public transport passengers per year.

Taxi, that’s a hard one. Here’s just for the USA; transportation network companies such as Uber Technologies Inc. and Lyft Inc. transported approximately 2.61 billion total U.S. passengers.

Hotels - STR Global estimates that there are worldwide 187,000 hotels, offering 17.5 million guest rooms, around the globe

Cruise ships - over 20 million people cruising each year.

And the list goes on and on… and on.

These should be MiracleTele’s primary targets since day one. And what did they do? They sent some guy to a couple of seminars about blockchain and… that’s it.

A year passes, millions of customers hungry for cheap worldwide phone calls, and billions of future profit lost forever.

If they invested at least five million in what you read here, they would have now a six if not a seven-figure number in paying customers.

I must retreat some things I wrote about the scam part (the blackmail stands, because it is what it is), but most of the other things are plain pure laziness and total lack of business enterprise from the Miracletele management.

They can fix it, not with hitting Africa as they plan. Yes, Africa is cheap and broke, but if they want long-term customers, then the above are their primary targets.

Keep your eyes on your accounts, and we’ll see what happens after 15-9-2019.
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September 10, 2019, 03:28:58 AM
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I understand all. I don't think Miracle Tele is a scam. They just lack absolute clear communication and transparency. That is what I perceive. But the inclusion of stacking reward of 10% External deposit is great! That would increase trade volume, thus price.
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September 10, 2019, 05:04:39 AM
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I just learnt that there is a fee for stacking.
So now we have:
1) Stacking Fees.
2) Deposit and Withdrawal fees
3) Sim Activation Fee
4) Call and Data payments, Thus fees.

All these are multiple ways the company uses to generate revenue. Not that bad in my opinion. Albeit that they keep it sustainable.

Still waiting for my Sim...
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September 10, 2019, 07:19:45 AM
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I just learnt that there is a fee for stacking.
So now we have:
1) Stacking Fees.
2) Deposit and Withdrawal fees
3) Sim Activation Fee
4) Call and Data payments, Thus fees.

All these are multiple ways the company uses to generate revenue. Not that bad in my opinion. Albeit that they keep it sustainable.

Still waiting for my Sim...

You forgot the monthly fees for using one of their phone numbers which can be up to 15€… so 40,000 users make up to 600.000 euros per month, every month. That alone would cover over 60% of the monthly rewards they hand out (at 2€ per month).
MiracleTele should not have any money problems, they're bathing in it.

Oh, right, the stacking is back to normal, seems it was really just a glitch in their system.

Shit happens… even to Santa when he's drunk.
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September 10, 2019, 08:09:12 AM
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I just learnt that there is a fee for stacking.
So now we have:
1) Stacking Fees.
2) Deposit and Withdrawal fees
3) Sim Activation Fee
4) Call and Data payments, Thus fees.

All these are multiple ways the company uses to generate revenue. Not that bad in my opinion. Albeit that they keep it sustainable.

Still waiting for my Sim...

You forgot the monthly fees for using one of their phone numbers which can be up to 15€… so 40,000 users make up to 600.000 euros per month, every month. That alone would cover over 60% of the monthly rewards they hand out (at 2€ per month).
MiracleTele should not have any money problems, they're bathing in it.

Oh, right, the stacking is back to normal, seems it was really just a glitch in their system.

Shit happens… even to Santa when he's drunk.


Your tokens were bought directly from the Miracle Tele Website? Today I was cut for stacking my bounty earned tokens. I knew that tokens bought from the external sources are not legit for stacking but didn't know that affects bounty points. Jeez
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September 10, 2019, 02:08:23 PM
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Everyone received newsletter from Miracle? Such nice news! Uh, no Grin
Burchik has gone, new CEO. LOL
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September 10, 2019, 07:14:06 PM
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I just learnt that there is a fee for stacking.
So now we have:
1) Stacking Fees.
2) Deposit and Withdrawal fees
3) Sim Activation Fee
4) Call and Data payments, Thus fees.

All these are multiple ways the company uses to generate revenue. Not that bad in my opinion. Albeit that they keep it sustainable.

Still waiting for my Sim...

You forgot the monthly fees for using one of their phone numbers which can be up to 15€… so 40,000 users make up to 600.000 euros per month, every month. That alone would cover over 60% of the monthly rewards they hand out (at 2€ per month).
MiracleTele should not have any money problems, they're bathing in it.

Oh, right, the stacking is back to normal, seems it was really just a glitch in their system.

Shit happens… even to Santa when he's drunk.


Wow i didnt know of this since my sim has not been activated. Hmm.... Let's see how everything goes.
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September 10, 2019, 08:12:37 PM
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Everyone received newsletter from Miracle? Such nice news! Uh, no Grin
Burchik has gone, new CEO. LOL

Do you really believe that? Easy search gives us an extract from the register which says, that ANDREJS BURČIKS is an only secretary and an only partner of the Miracle Tele company. And the data is valid as of the date 10.9.2019 03:37. This is just making an another confusion of the situation from the project representatives.

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September 11, 2019, 02:14:55 AM
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this is the end of the Miracle story. There is no more dev team, also "partners" in Africa they picked up the money.
This seems like the last attempt to squeeze more out there

I got this email from Miracle

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Hey community,

Most of the team members decided to leave the project. It’s because of delayed payment and worsened company image. This happened because of dishonest partners in Africa who froze most of the money

I am Roman Golod, the new director of the MiracleTele company I took all possible anti-crisis measures to address the debts Salaries and rewards are now paid off in a usual manner. But we still lack enough money to launch new services and connect new clients.

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this is the end of the Miracle story. There is no more dev team, also "partners" in Africa they picked up the money.
This seems like the last attempt to squeeze more out there

I got this email from Miracle

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Hey community,

Most of the team members decided to leave the project. It’s because of delayed payment and worsened company image. This happened because of dishonest partners in Africa who froze most of the money

I am Roman Golod, the new director of the MiracleTele company I took all possible anti-crisis measures to address the debts Salaries and rewards are now paid off in a usual manner. But we still lack enough money to launch new services and connect new clients.

Maybe. Maybe not.

Putting an unknown entity, the person X »the Africans« in their story is an excellent way to buy time, the only question is time for what.

No one with a clear mind goes to do financial business in Africa… you go there to rob them from their natural resources, not to invest/store your millions there (no offense if you’re from Africa – if you are you know what I’m talking about).

So they need three months… for what … maybe this:

https://doctorbinder.com/recovery-tips-after-facial-reconstruction-2/
»Generally by 3 months after a rhinoplasty procedure, most of the swelling has subsided, the new shape and size of the nose is apparent, and patients can go back to their normal routines, including exercise..”
 
I know, I know, we’re back to conspiracy theories. So let’s take a look at facts:

to address the debts Salaries and rewards are now paid off in a usual manner.

Nothing changed as far this goes. You still cannot withdraw your money without having their sim-card (Please validate your account by activating Miracle Tele sim card to withdraw rewards), which means they still blackmail their investors. Also, your earnings are still split between pre-chaos, and after they lowered the reward rate.

Their reward rate rises at “pre-programmed 0,02€ per day which buys them extra time to… whatever they plan to do.

For you who invested (as did my stupid mate) way too much money in this, the targets stay the same, people cemented as MiracleTele’s heads and team members.

And yes, this Mr. Roman Golod is somehow connected to this story

https://icorating.com/people/roman-golod-12654/

Will he do anything to solve this mess? Did he write the latest email at all? (it was definitely translated from Russian)

Sending a business email to your investors without signing it is as good as a... pedophile without a dick.

Time will tell.
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September 11, 2019, 05:52:33 AM
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They were bouth through their website, not mine, my mates, I’m only assisting him here; he know waits for his assassin-wife to get home and hand him his punishment when she sees what he did with the money they planned to invest in their new home.

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 Today I was cut for stacking my bounty earned tokens. I knew that tokens bought from the external sources are not legit for stacking but didn't know that affects bounty points. Jeez
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Not according to this

https://medium.com/@miracletele.mobile/miracle-tele-massive-airdrop-answering-the-most-frequently-asked-questions-5f2d70f8bea2

Want to help us promote Miracle Tele by completing simple tasks and get up to 120 TELE tokens in return so that you can stack them, get biweekly token holder rewards, and then spend them either on our mobile services or withdraw them?
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September 11, 2019, 05:55:56 AM
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LATEST UPDATE FROM THE EMAIL


Hey community,

Most of the team members decided to leave the project. It’s because of delayed payment and worsened company image. This happened because of dishonest partners in Africa who froze most of the money

I am Roman Golod, the new director of the MiracleTele company I took all possible anti-crisis measures to address the debts Salaries and rewards are now paid off in a usual manner. But we still lack enough money to launch new services and connect new clients.

The anti-crisis strategy will end on December 10.12.2019. after that reward rate will be highe

- Start of cooperation with the official distributor of Goip, Dingstar, Portech, Openvox, and DTT.

- Adding private virtual numbers with receiving sms for google, facebook, telegram, instagram, whatsup, etc), forward calls и voice message

- Adding new numbers to the Free SMS section

- Feature of listening received voice message on the numbers of the Free SMS service.

As everything else we do at MiracleTele, these changes are prompted by our current business needs and the interests of you, our customers and supporters. We are just trying to balance all the various factors while being fiscally responsible and trying to serve you better. As you well remember by now, MiracleTele is the modern-era mobile operator that brings you bureaucracy-free, private and secure system, high-quality telecom services and low rates. With your tokens, you can also take advantage of our blockchain-based loyalty program with bi-weekly token holder rewards.


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September 11, 2019, 07:15:16 PM
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this is the end of the Miracle story. There is no more dev team, also "partners" in Africa they picked up the money.
This seems like the last attempt to squeeze more out there

I got this email from Miracle

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Hey community,

Most of the team members decided to leave the project. It’s because of delayed payment and worsened company image. This happened because of dishonest partners in Africa who froze most of the money

I am Roman Golod, the new director of the MiracleTele company I took all possible anti-crisis measures to address the debts Salaries and rewards are now paid off in a usual manner. But we still lack enough money to launch new services and connect new clients.

Maybe. Maybe not.

Putting an unknown entity, the person X »the Africans« in their story is an excellent way to buy time, the only question is time for what.

No one with a clear mind goes to do financial business in Africa… you go there to rob them from their natural resources, not to invest/store your millions there (no offense if you’re from Africa – if you are you know what I’m talking about).

So they need three months… for what … maybe this:

https://doctorbinder.com/recovery-tips-after-facial-reconstruction-2/
»Generally by 3 months after a rhinoplasty procedure, most of the swelling has subsided, the new shape and size of the nose is apparent, and patients can go back to their normal routines, including exercise..”
 
I know, I know, we’re back to conspiracy theories. So let’s take a look at facts:

to address the debts Salaries and rewards are now paid off in a usual manner.

Nothing changed as far this goes. You still cannot withdraw your money without having their sim-card (Please validate your account by activating Miracle Tele sim card to withdraw rewards), which means they still blackmail their investors. Also, your earnings are still split between pre-chaos, and after they lowered the reward rate.

Their reward rate rises at “pre-programmed 0,02€ per day which buys them extra time to… whatever they plan to do.

For you who invested (as did my stupid mate) way too much money in this, the targets stay the same, people cemented as MiracleTele’s heads and team members.

And yes, this Mr. Roman Golod is somehow connected to this story

https://icorating.com/people/roman-golod-12654/

Will he do anything to solve this mess? Did he write the latest email at all? (it was definitely translated from Russian)

Sending a business email to your investors without signing it is as good as a... pedophile without a dick.

Time will tell.


Btw., the link of Mr. Roman Golod  https://icorating.com/people/roman-golod-12654/ is not related to the actual Mr. Golod! The real Mr. Golod is on the white paper on the site, FB, Instagram etc. So wrong link!
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September 11, 2019, 09:23:45 PM
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Has anyone else noticed that there are no Linkedin profiles available for half the team?  Grin

And yes, this Mr. Roman Golod is somehow connected to this story

https://icorating.com/people/roman-golod-12654/

Well, this certainly isn't the real Roman Golod.
This is the team (although the CFO was originally a woman if I remember correctly)

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Has anyone else noticed that there are no Linkedin profiles available for half the team?  Grin

And yes, this Mr. Roman Golod is somehow connected to this story

https://icorating.com/people/roman-golod-12654/

Well, this certainly isn't the real Roman Golod.

[source: https://icobench.com/ico/miracle-tele]

No, it is a picture. Who told you that the photos on their website are the real people who stand behind the company? A five-year-old can using free software available on the net put a monkey’s face under any of their names…
… which only shows how much work awaits agencies and courts if Miracletele doesn’t fix their stuff and starts operating as a company.

Some good news (as some of you let me know) is that MiracleTele started as a 100% legit company, allowing its investors to purchase their tokens with credit cards and wire transfer. This leaves an inerasable trace that any courts and agencies can trace to anyone who ever had access to these accounts and its money.

If you purchased your tokens this way, great for you, if not here’s another pathway:

https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/17769/ico-token-didnt-entitle-buyers-to-profits-u-s-judge-says-it-sounds-like-a-security-anyway/
https://www.law360.com/cases/5a3cf0346ec6926bb1000005
https://bravenewcoin.com/insights/lawsuits-triple-as-regulators-take-aim-at-crypto
https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/35775/sec-files-emergency-lawsuit-against-veritaseum-to-stop-spending-millions-of-dollars-in-ico-money/
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sec-case-against-kik-ico-040032476.html

Class action cases against ico’s are nothing unusual, they might be under-reported, but they happen, all over the world, every day, each time a company does not deliver on their promises to its investors.

It would be nice for Miracletele to stop addressing you as your »community.«
According to law, you are and will always be first and foremost their INVESTORS, and as such you are protected by any criminal behavior Miracletele might execute against you (INCLUDING BLACKMAILING YOU TO PURCHASE THEIR SIM CARDS TO GET WHAT IS YOURS) trying to fix the mess they’ve caused while sitting on their asses for a year and doing nothing to promote their business.

Some of you already lawyer-ed up, which is good. Collect any evidence you have, store your emails, and all your communications with Miracletele and wait, wait for this miracle of Miracletele to happen.
 
It seems someone from Miracletele is following this message-board… Today for the first time, the worth of their reward did not rise… a day after I’ve posted, »Their reward rate rises at “pre-programmed 0,02€ per day which buys them extra time to…”

Hello MiracleTele, nice from you to drop by, how about you start doing your job and promote what you build so far… not with Africans, Mexicans, or Lord of the rings, but on a worldwide platform.

Keep your promises to your investors, or face the music.
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September 12, 2019, 01:05:54 PM
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I think we will get the money we have invested, some day....  Grin

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