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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.2%)
Real Madrid - 81 (67.5%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
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Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
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July 15, 2023, 05:52:16 PM
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For this reason alone, Ancelotti may be reluctant to include Mbappe in the squad. Mbappe is capable of scoring a lot of goals and his fitness is very good. But his behavior is completely different from Real Madrid players. Real Madrid is a strong team as a team. Real Madrid's good results are due to the contribution of almost every player in the team. Ancelotti will certainly not want to rely solely on Mbappe to shape his strategy. Mbappe's main problem is his unwillingness to assist. He just wants to score.
Yes, I agree with your view about Mbappe, who looks a little more selfish than his team-mates. If Madrid do sign him Ancelotti will surely change a few things in Mbappe's attitude, and certainly no player is bigger than the club. I think Ancelotti understands Mbappe's attitude very well and I'm sure he can handle it easily, considering that he has coached so many football stars.

If Mbappe doesn't join this season, Madrid will also have no shortage of options for their striker position, and there are plenty of other best striker options they can get in this transfer window. Harry Kane and Osimhen are the two names most talked about in the transfer market this time, both of which are also reported to be in demand by Madrid. But I don't know what is clear that Madrid will remain as a club that has history before Mbappe came, hopefully if he officially joins he can add titles to Madrid.

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July 15, 2023, 06:14:30 PM
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For this reason alone, Ancelotti may be reluctant to include Mbappe in the squad. Mbappe is capable of scoring a lot of goals and his fitness is very good. But his behavior is completely different from Real Madrid players. Real Madrid is a strong team as a team. Real Madrid's good results are due to the contribution of almost every player in the team. Ancelotti will certainly not want to rely solely on Mbappe to shape his strategy. Mbappe's main problem is his unwillingness to assist. He just wants to score.
Yes, I agree with your view about Mbappe, who looks a little more selfish than his team-mates. If Madrid do sign him Ancelotti will surely change a few things in Mbappe's attitude, and certainly no player is bigger than the club. I think Ancelotti understands Mbappe's attitude very well and I'm sure he can handle it easily, considering that he has coached so many football stars.

If Mbappe doesn't join this season, Madrid will also have no shortage of options for their striker position, and there are plenty of other best striker options they can get in this transfer window. Harry Kane and Osimhen are the two names most talked about in the transfer market this time, both of which are also reported to be in demand by Madrid. But I don't know what is clear that Madrid will remain as a club that has history before Mbappe came, hopefully if he officially joins he can add titles to Madrid.


I doubt that you can create a significant change in Mbappe regarding his self-perception, his character and how he behaves towards other people and teammates. He isn't a gentleman and he has no issues showing his egoistic attitude. It's remarkable how different two world stars can be when you compare Haaland to Mbappe. Haaland is a modest guy, permanently trying to contribute in any way possible, enjoying goals of his teammates, trying to assist them as much and as good as he can while Mbappe is more the Ronaldo guy. I prefer people like Haaland who know that they are the best, but they mean it seriously when they talk about potential self-improvements and also about their weaknesses. This sets real stars apart from others.

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July 15, 2023, 06:37:09 PM
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I think I disagree here, because Mbappe is too good to not be able to adapt to tougher environments or leagues. There is a reason that he is already in the top 20 of the Champions League goal scorer list and also scored 38 goals in 68 games for the national team. His goals aren't only scored against Ajaccio, but against the best teams in the world on a regular basis. I wish he would go to a club in the Premier League as I think that should be the place for him to improve even more.

Yes, Mbappe has already shown himself in different conditions and everywhere he was successful. He is not a "rising" star, but a long-established one, and I am also sure that moving to any league will not worsen his results.
As for moving to the Premier League, it would be interesting to see (how they beat all records in a race with Haaland), but this is extremely unlikely for many reasons.

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July 15, 2023, 06:47:08 PM
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I don’t understand why the post of @TheGreatPython is nonsense. Because there is actually logic behind what he is saying. And I don’t understand why PSG cannot sell Mbappé. I think they are actually willing to sell him because if they do not sell him right now and there is actually no contract extension for Mbappé with PSG, they will have to let Mbappé go as a free agent. That certainly is not going to be the best business for PSG. But I also agree that it is not going to be a good business for Real Madrid to bring him for so much money right now.
Damn. Friend, are you kidding? Mbappe is not a thing and PSG have no right to dispose of him. They can only demand the execution of a contract that expires in a year. Clubs do not "sell" players, they only take compensation for the premature termination of the contract. If you do not know this, then it is surprising to me why you write in topics about football.

So it's basically the same thing right? I see this as a form of business which contains money being transferred for the services of a player which is obviously the 'salary' of a player. And the compensation you are talking about is agreed by both clubs because the club having the ownership of the 'contract' of the player (not the player himself) is willing to terminate the contract prematurely.

In short, buying and selling.

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July 15, 2023, 06:51:21 PM
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I think I disagree here, because Mbappe is too good to not be able to adapt to tougher environments or leagues. There is a reason that he is already in the top 20 of the Champions League goal scorer list and also scored 38 goals in 68 games for the national team. His goals aren't only scored against Ajaccio, but against the best teams in the world on a regular basis. I wish he would go to a club in the Premier League as I think that should be the place for him to improve even more.

Yes, Mbappe has already shown himself in different conditions and everywhere he was successful. He is not a "rising" star, but a long-established one, and I am also sure that moving to any league will not worsen his results.
As for moving to the Premier League, it would be interesting to see (how they beat all records in a race with Haaland), but this is extremely unlikely for many reasons.

Indeed, basically Mbappe will still be fine if he leaves for another club other than Real Madrid but the problem is. If at his new club it will still be difficult for the club to win the title, then it will also only be useless, because at PSG also Mbappe still promises to win the title for Ligue 1 but not for the Champion League. So, at this moment if Mbappe leaves, then at least the club can guarantee to be able to get the Champion League title and yes, at least Real Madrid is among the clubs that can provide this guarantee.

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July 15, 2023, 07:02:14 PM
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For this reason alone, Ancelotti may be reluctant to include Mbappe in the squad. Mbappe is capable of scoring a lot of goals and his fitness is very good. But his behavior is completely different from Real Madrid players. Real Madrid is a strong team as a team. Real Madrid's good results are due to the contribution of almost every player in the team. Ancelotti will certainly not want to rely solely on Mbappe to shape his strategy. Mbappe's main problem is his unwillingness to assist. He just wants to score.
Yes, I agree with your view about Mbappe, who looks a little more selfish than his team-mates. If Madrid do sign him Ancelotti will surely change a few things in Mbappe's attitude, and certainly no player is bigger than the club. I think Ancelotti understands Mbappe's attitude very well and I'm sure he can handle it easily, considering that he has coached so many football stars.

If Mbappe doesn't join this season, Madrid will also have no shortage of options for their striker position, and there are plenty of other best striker options they can get in this transfer window. Harry Kane and Osimhen are the two names most talked about in the transfer market this time, both of which are also reported to be in demand by Madrid. But I don't know what is clear that Madrid will remain as a club that has history before Mbappe came, hopefully if he officially joins he can add titles to Madrid.


I doubt that you can create a significant change in Mbappe regarding his self-perception, his character and how he behaves towards other people and teammates. He isn't a gentleman and he has no issues showing his egoistic attitude. It's remarkable how different two world stars can be when you compare Haaland to Mbappe. Haaland is a modest guy, permanently trying to contribute in any way possible, enjoying goals of his teammates, trying to assist them as much and as good as he can while Mbappe is more the Ronaldo guy. I prefer people like Haaland who know that they are the best, but they mean it seriously when they talk about potential self-improvements and also about their weaknesses. This sets real stars apart from others.

I've read your comments on Mbappe and realized I hadn't thought about it this way before. I am a football fan who wants Mbappe to transfer to Real Madrid. But based on what you said, you really spoke logically that it could be a problem for Real Madrid's game. Mbappe is an individual player. His character on the football field goes a little against the team spirit at Real Madrid. If he transfers, I don't know if it can prevent this situation. But there is another situation. It is this selfishness and greed that makes Mbappe Mbappe. That's why I'm undecided whether I want this transfer to happen or not.

Haaland and Mbappe are very different characters. It is because of these characters and their games on the field that they are now among the best players in the world. I will not make a comparison. Both are players a team would want. I can only state that Mbappe is more selfish than Haaland.
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July 15, 2023, 07:04:34 PM
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If you look at Real Madrid's pre-season fixtures, they will face AC Milan in the near future, interestingly Real Madrid will face many big clubs in their pre-season matches. I want to see how they do in the pre-season matches, I won't judge them and conclude, but I will see the development they will show during the pre-season matches. There will always be a difference between pre-season matches and real matches, but it can be a reference even if it doesn't guarantee it.
We'll be shown some matches from big clubs as they prepare.

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July 15, 2023, 07:51:08 PM
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I am almost sure that he will not go to Saudi Arabia Grin Mbappe is a football player who pursues his dreams at a young age. If he is determined to go to Real Madrid, no team can take him. I think he will play for PSG one more year.
Saudi Arabia may well be a real option for the transition stage before the end of Mbappe's agreement with Paris Saint-Germain, no matter how fantastic it would have sounded six months ago. At least there seems to be such an offer from the Saudis to invite Mbappe to Saudi Arabia for a year, given the damaged relations between the PSG leadership and the player. Then PSG would get money for rent, and the player would get game practice, and I'm also not sure that Luis Enrique is excited about the idea of building the future of the team around a player who will leave after a season.

Is this serious, I am absolutely sure that Mbappe will not go to the Saudi League. Mbappe earns a large salary at PSG, and after his contract with PSG expires in June 2024, he will certainly get a signing-on fee bonus of € 150 million stated in his contract. that is why, the Mbappe drama saga has become a hot topic of conversation to date. as said by the President of PSG, that they will not release the star with a free agent. that means, apart from losing his star, PSG will pay Mbappe according to the contract agreement.

But the problem is which club will sign Mbappe at a very high price. plus, the salary is quite high. and even if a club is interested in signing him, it is not certain that Mbappe is willing to join the club, the only thing Mbappe wants is Real Madrid. before in this post, I have reviewed matters related to Mbappe in other threads with the assumptions and speculations that I said.
We'll see, after all this summer transfer market still leaves a lot of time. and the question is whether Madrid will bring him to the Santiago Bernabeu in this transfer window. if so, we can be sure that the two clubs and the player will try to find a solution so that it can be mutually agreed upon. ideally, Madrid would be sharper if Mbappe was present with them and would make Carlo Ancelotti's squad even more competitive.

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July 15, 2023, 08:07:01 PM
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Even if Saudi Arabia enters negotiations with Real Madrid, mbappe will not join the Saudi league; if mbappe joins the league, his career will be over since he will not enjoy playing there; mbappe is still a young guy who needs to play in the European league; and mbappe is only concerned with money. If MBeppa does not arrive before the start of the next season, Madrid should look for another player to replace him. If Madrid signs Kane, he will be a better person to replace Benzema. If Madrid does not sign a replacement for Benzema, Madrid will suffer in the attacking line.

Everyone now have a mindset now that the Saudi league is the league where players join for money when they’re no longer valued in Europe again. This is the same mindset that made you assume that Mbappe will not enjoy playing football there and his career will be coming to an end when he joins that league. Saudi Arabian league might be an upcoming league but having such notion about them is not a welcome one. Everyone has a choice of where they want to play and their decision should be respected also.

Mbappe is an excellent player as evidenced by his national team performances. Mbappe had a great performance in the France jersey. Mbappe's performance in the World Cup also impressed everyone. But while Mbappe is a great player, he is a bit selfish. As if Mbappe's selfish gameplay had a negative impact on the team's overall performance.

I don’t seem to see a reason why you called Mbappe a selfish player. He’s a great player and a very good attacking player and also good at finishing and that gave him an edge over other players. It won’t make sense to call a player being selfish because he scores more goals than others but I don’t know where you draw your conclusion from. His performance has only contributed positively to both his national team and club side.

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July 15, 2023, 08:15:08 PM
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I didn't mean to say that he is the best in the world, but when you try to give the whole situation an objective view, isn't Mbappe the one who creates the most enthusiasm in all the kids and younger players who look up to him? That is a value that goes beyond his quality as a player over a longer period of time, but the moments he has are definitely among the best the sport has ever seen.
We definitely agree that Mbappe is the best striker in Liague 1 at the moment, and it's natural because there Mbappe is supported by a capable squad and the League is not as competitive and hard as the EPL. I think if Mbappe moves to Madrid or let's say to an EPL club then he will feel the pressure and burden he bears in every game, I'm sure he won't get any better if he manages to move. Especially Mbappe has a high selfish attitude and this backfired for him to build good relationships between fellow players if one day he moved from PSG.

There are lots of examples of players like Mbappe and after joining another club his performance and quality slowly declined, because he didn't have a humble attitude and felt like he was a big star.

I think I disagree here, because Mbappe is too good to not be able to adapt to tougher environments or leagues. There is a reason that he is already in the top 20 of the Champions League goal scorer list and also scored 38 goals in 68 games for the national team. His goals aren't only scored against Ajaccio, but against the best teams in the world on a regular basis. I wish he would go to a club in the Premier League as I think that should be the place for him to improve even more.

It is undoubtedly the strongest league in the world, there is a lot of competition and scoring on a regular basis there is really worth a lot of hard work, but the decision is up to the players themselves. I mean he would hardly want to move to England with the dream of playing for Real Madrid, he probably doesn't care about the league, he's just following his dream, plus the transfer has never been as close as it is now or next year

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July 15, 2023, 08:16:48 PM
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I didn't expect mbappe to want to play in the Saudi Arabian League it would be a shame if that happened and of course his football career would most likely be overshadowed -Europe's top team.
And Real Madrid in the last 2 seasons have really tried hard to bring in Mbappe, but that's only natural because Mbappe is a young player with great potential, and even if Real Madrid fail to realize this transfer again, I'm sure next season they will do the same thing again.
After the departure of Karim Benzema, Real Madrid had to bring in another player to fill the void.
Even that is possible, I don't think Kylian Mbappe will be playing in the Arab Pro League at the peak of his career as he is now. Instead of playing in the Arab Pro League, I would expect him to play in the Premier League or La Liga for the next few seasons and win his first Champions League title. Kylian Mbappe is also eager to win individual trophies like the Ballon d'Or and others, so the chances of going to the Arab Pro League are currently very low.

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July 15, 2023, 08:20:17 PM
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Even that is possible, I don't think Kylian Mbappe will be playing in the Arab Pro League at the peak of his career as he is now. Instead of playing in the Arab Pro League, I would expect him to play in the Premier League or La Liga for the next few seasons and win his first Champions League title. Kylian Mbappe is also eager to win individual trophies like the Ballon d'Or and others, so the chances of going to the Arab Pro League are currently very low.

I believe its best for Mbappe to move to Real Madrid; he had an amazing performance in the worldcup and also finished the season on a high with excellent performances but he is no where near balon d'or shouts after being overshadowed by Haaland treble win and Messi world cup win. A move to Arab means he is planning retirement soon haha
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July 15, 2023, 08:34:43 PM
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If you look at Real Madrid's pre-season fixtures, they will face AC Milan in the near future, interestingly Real Madrid will face many big clubs in their pre-season matches. I want to see how they do in the pre-season matches, I won't judge them and conclude, but I will see the development they will show during the pre-season matches. There will always be a difference between pre-season matches and real matches, but it can be a reference even if it doesn't guarantee it.
We'll be shown some matches from big clubs as they prepare.

I actually like the preseason fixture of Real Madrid. They will be facing Milan, Barcelona, Juventus, Manchester United. This is a really interesting preseason fixture. I know that no one actually cares about these club-friendly matches. But I want to see which young players they will play in these matches.

Almost all of the teams have brought in new players to the squad. It will be interesting to see if those players get a chance to play in the preseason matches. Arda is probably injured and I don’t know if he will be able to play in any preseason matches. Does anyone know what the injury situation is for him?

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I believe its best for Mbappe to move to Real Madrid; he had an amazing performance in the worldcup and also finished the season on a high with excellent performances but he is no where near balon d'or shouts after being overshadowed by Haaland treble win and Messi world cup win. A move to Arab means he is planning retirement soon haha
If Kylian Mbappe decides to move from PSG to another team, then I have never doubted he will choose another team besides Real Madrid. Mbappe is known to have wanted to play for Real Madrid for a long time, but he has not moved on from PSG, which tied him to an expensive contract that was difficult to refuse. PSG may not be able to keep him around for much longer once his contract expires at the end of next season, but there is a possibility PSG will sell him to another team if they accept a reasonable offer.

Kylian Mbappe wants to win the Champions League title, and so far that plan seems perfectly achievable with Real Madrid. I also believe he can play for another top team in the Premier League, but so far Real Madrid seems to be his main objective.

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July 15, 2023, 09:13:44 PM
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I know it's difficult, but I hope they can do more than what they can do in the Europa League by doing better in the Champions League. They are the rulers of the Europa League, as you can see they have maintained and shown good dominance in the Europa League although we see the opposite when they are in La Liga.

Players are key, which means I see they must be more able to bring players who are mental in the Champions League, because when they play in the Champions League repeatedly they also fail to show their best.

I believe if they can find the right formula, they will be able to compete in the Champions League. and also they might join to enliven the competition in La Liga as they did in the previous 2 seasons.

What do you think the management should do, should they focus on bringing in star players for example, or are there other options that can make them improve? Like regenerating with young players or something like that?

To be honest I don't think Sevilla have enough finances to bring big names to the team. I know that they won the Europa League title which made them have some good sum of winnings on one hand. They must have earned near 20 million euros during their journey to the title. But it is still not good enough to make their finances way better.

Their squad actually consists of really good players. I don't think they need to make a big change. They became champions in the Europa League with the same players in the end. It is all about maintaining a good understanding of management.

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July 15, 2023, 09:14:25 PM
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The steps taken by Real Madrid are very appropriate not to be too hasty to catch up to Mbappe and it is better for Real Madrid to just watch the problem get over first. I think that even if Real Madrid came now to get Mbappe it would really make PSG a little arrogant and also of course they would not hesitate to increase the transfer fee for Mbappe because at the moment only Real Madrid can afford Mbappe. But if Real Madrid are patient enough to wait until next year, they won't spend a penny on Mbappe and that's where PSG will really feel the loss and regret it.
I think PSG will let Mbappe go in this transfer window so if Real madrid want to wait for Mbappe to end his contract next season that will never happen. On the one hand, Psg bought Mbappe at a fairly high price before so they don't want to lose Mbappe for nothing in the coming season. So, Real Madrid should be able to see the opportunities that exist to make an offer this month or next month if Real Madrid are really serious about getting Mbappe.

PSG management certainly hopes that Mbappe will not leave this summer and he must also sign a new contract extension. However, behind his good attitude PSG was not well received by Mbappe, so speculation arose about Mbappe's future in this transfer window. I hope Real Madrid can take a serious approach to Mbappe.

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July 15, 2023, 09:19:19 PM
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I think I disagree here, because Mbappe is too good to not be able to adapt to tougher environments or leagues. There is a reason that he is already in the top 20 of the Champions League goal scorer list and also scored 38 goals in 68 games for the national team. His goals aren't only scored against Ajaccio, but against the best teams in the world on a regular basis. I wish he would go to a club in the Premier League as I think that should be the place for him to improve even more.
Why would he choose the Premier League to improve as he has offers from a major club like Real Madrid. Which English Premier League team do you consider to be better than Real Madrid? Manchester City won the Champions League trophy in the last season Manchester City won the Champions League trophy in just one season but Real Madrid have not been better team. Real Madrid is the best team of all time. A better team for Mbappe than the English Premier League would be La Liga's Real Madrid and if all goes well, he will definitely come to Real Madrid. Mbappé himself likes Real Madrid very much and he will indeed fulfill his dreams one by one at Real Madrid. A move to Real Madrid could be a good decision for Mbappe at the moment.

Real Madrid would also be ok as there is at least some competition in La Liga, but if he thrives to be competing on the highest level possibly every weekend, the Premier League would be the league to go for him. In terms of the fiercest competition during a whole season, I think La Liga is the second best choice. This does not mean that I believe Real Madrid isn't a strong team. They are a strong team, but the Premier League is the best most competitive league. Seeing Mbappe play against Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham, I would like it. Real Madrid vs Barcelona and Atletico Madrid is also great to watch though.

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July 15, 2023, 09:24:07 PM
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Mbappe is an excellent player as evidenced by his national team performances. Mbappe had a great performance in the France jersey. Mbappe's performance in the World Cup also impressed everyone. But while Mbappe is a great player, he is a bit selfish. As if Mbappe's selfish gameplay had a negative impact on the team's overall performance.

I don’t seem to see a reason why you called Mbappe a selfish player. He’s a great player and a very good attacking player and also good at finishing and that gave him an edge over other players. It won’t make sense to call a player being selfish because he scores more goals than others but I don’t know where you draw your conclusion from. His performance has only contributed positively to both his national team and club side.
Kylian Mbappe is a forward player who's priority is to score as many goals as possible and sometimes he does need a beat of selfishness to perfect his scoring tricks. But that doesn't make him a serial selfish player.
We all saw what he did with the France national team in last year's FIFA World Cup tournament and how he was very close to making the most important comeback in football history.
Mbappe surely has his own shortcomings as a player but certainly not to be tagged "selfish"

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July 15, 2023, 09:31:07 PM
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Mbappe is an excellent player as evidenced by his national team performances. Mbappe had a great performance in the France jersey. Mbappe's performance in the World Cup also impressed everyone. But while Mbappe is a great player, he is a bit selfish. As if Mbappe's selfish gameplay had a negative impact on the team's overall performance.
I don’t seem to see a reason why you called Mbappe a selfish player. He’s a great player and a very good attacking player and also good at finishing and that gave him an edge over other players. It won’t make sense to call a player being selfish because he scores more goals than others but I don’t know where you draw your conclusion from. His performance has only contributed positively to both his national team and club side.
These are just accusations from certain parties who allege that Mbappe is arrogant, especially when he wants to score his own goals and doesn't provide passes for other players. But in fact, this is not always true, how often does Mbappe do this? What's more, this is just the assumption of certain people who may not like him, so you can't make an estimate. Because this has certainly been done by other players. In this case, regardless of anything, Mbappe is an extraordinary player, who can take a high burden on the team.

What's more, his desire to move to La Liga, e Real Madrid has been there for a long time. And now is the time for him to make it happen. Indeed, this might be quite difficult for him because of a number of things like what happened a few seasons ago where there was some intervention from certain parties. But this time, Mbappe should have found his own way and achieved what he had dreamed of all this time.

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July 15, 2023, 09:32:25 PM
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I think I disagree here, because Mbappe is too good to not be able to adapt to tougher environments or leagues. There is a reason that he is already in the top 20 of the Champions League goal scorer list and also scored 38 goals in 68 games for the national team. His goals aren't only scored against Ajaccio, but against the best teams in the world on a regular basis. I wish he would go to a club in the Premier League as I think that should be the place for him to improve even more.
Why would he choose the Premier League to improve as he has offers from a major club like Real Madrid. Which English Premier League team do you consider to be better than Real Madrid? Manchester City won the Champions League trophy in the last season Manchester City won the Champions League trophy in just one season but Real Madrid have not been better team. Real Madrid is the best team of all time. A better team for Mbappe than the English Premier League would be La Liga's Real Madrid and if all goes well, he will definitely come to Real Madrid. Mbappé himself likes Real Madrid very much and he will indeed fulfill his dreams one by one at Real Madrid. A move to Real Madrid could be a good decision for Mbappe at the moment.
Actually, this kind of thing also refers to money I guess.
Manchester City is a good club but there is already Haaland there, on the other hand other clubs will have difficulty with large funds other than Manchester City at this time. for example Liverpool who want Mbappe in the last few rumours but that also needs greater consideration because they need to spend a lot of players for that as well as Arsenal who want Mbappe but are not too much of a priority especially since they have spent more than 200 million on transfers this summer.
Madrid are one of the clubs that can do that, their finances are unquestionable Mbappe also knows the quality of Madrid in La Liga and the Champions League so there is nothing else I think other than going to Madrid.

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