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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.2%)
Real Madrid - 81 (67.5%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.7%)
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July 15, 2023, 09:41:12 PM
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If you look at Real Madrid's pre-season fixtures, they will face AC Milan in the near future, interestingly Real Madrid will face many big clubs in their pre-season matches. I want to see how they do in the pre-season matches, I won't judge them and conclude, but I will see the development they will show during the pre-season matches. There will always be a difference between pre-season matches and real matches, but it can be a reference even if it doesn't guarantee it.
We'll be shown some matches from big clubs as they prepare.
Real Madrid have new great players and they surely will add to the strength of that team, and maybe also add variety in terms of formations which can use of Real Madrid coach, because sometimes a coach often do experiments on his players. So yes, although that match is a friendly match but it might be good reference because the coach will try several formations. Also, interesting is that they will be playing vs Manchester United, if i'm not mistaken it's been a long time not meet since they last match in 2018.

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July 15, 2023, 09:41:34 PM
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Real Madrid are desperately in need of a striker to replace Karim Benzema. Kylian Mbappe, who has been their main target this summer is yet to decide his future and it is still unclear whether he will be available this summer. The club is now looking for alternatives before the window closes.
the reason Real Madrid and Mbappe have not mutually agreed to sign a contract is because there is uncertainty on the part of PSG at the moment on the one hand there is a very hot conflict at PSG with Mbappe so maybe Real Madrid have no other choice but to wait until Mbappe contract run out and there is no need for too much ambitious to find a replacement for Banzema.
although Banzema is a reliable player, Real Madrid can be successful without a substitute
I think in this case Madrid are not without options, it's just that they prefer to wait for how the current conditions run, they realise that if they are active then PSG will not reduce Mbappe's current price and it is better to be passive while monitoring how it moves because if Mbappe and PSG continue to argue then in this case sooner or later he also leaves.
It's about how the strategy is done I think because if they are too active at the moment then there are some possibilities that will still hurt them like when they fail then it will definitely be a joke just like before and of course PSG will also not reduce the price of Mbappe to leave.

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July 15, 2023, 09:43:52 PM
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I've read your comments on Mbappe and realized I hadn't thought about it this way before. I am a football fan who wants Mbappe to transfer to Real Madrid. But based on what you said, you really spoke logically that it could be a problem for Real Madrid's game. Mbappe is an individual player. His character on the football field goes a little against the team spirit at Real Madrid. If he transfers, I don't know if it can prevent this situation. But there is another situation. It is this selfishness and greed that makes Mbappe Mbappe. That's why I'm undecided whether I want this transfer to happen or not.

Haaland and Mbappe are very different characters. It is because of these characters and their games on the field that they are now among the best players in the world. I will not make a comparison. Both are players a team would want. I can only state that Mbappe is more selfish than Haaland.

I wouldn't say that Mbappe could harm Real Madrid's game or could become a problem for the team. If that was the case, tons of problems would have been there when Ronaldo played for Real Madrid as he is even worse than Mbappe. But these players are still the best regardless of their characters. It makes sense that the selfishness and greed might be a part of their very own success formula although you can see that other players don't need to be an asshole in order to be successful. I rather think that players like Mbappe could be undermining other values that a club like Real Madrid stands for, but as long as he is the best scorer nobody would blame him for his character.

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July 15, 2023, 09:45:48 PM
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I know it's difficult, but I hope they can do more than what they can do in the Europa League by doing better in the Champions League. They are the rulers of the Europa League, as you can see they have maintained and shown good dominance in the Europa League although we see the opposite when they are in La Liga.

Players are key, which means I see they must be more able to bring players who are mental in the Champions League, because when they play in the Champions League repeatedly they also fail to show their best.

I believe if they can find the right formula, they will be able to compete in the Champions League. and also they might join to enliven the competition in La Liga as they did in the previous 2 seasons.

What do you think the management should do, should they focus on bringing in star players for example, or are there other options that can make them improve? Like regenerating with young players or something like that?

To be honest I don't think Sevilla have enough finances to bring big names to the team. I know that they won the Europa League title which made them have some good sum of winnings on one hand. They must have earned near 20 million euros during their journey to the title. But it is still not good enough to make their finances way better.

Their squad actually consists of really good players. I don't think they need to make a big change. They became champions in the Europa League with the same players in the end. It is all about maintaining a good understanding of management.
At least some improvement would be great for them, bringing in a star player would be very difficult and maybe this will give some consideration but I think if indeed the star player option cannot be brought in then finding a suitable player at a slightly cheaper price could be a good thing for them too.

Right now they have to realize that even though this season is the Europa League champion, but still they still have a lot of gaps and that should not be allowed because if they let this too much, this will have a bad impact and it could be that the start of their season next season will be the same as this season in domestic competitions with the tight schedule they have.

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July 15, 2023, 09:49:39 PM
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Damn. Friend, are you kidding? Mbappe is not a thing and PSG have no right to dispose of him. They can only demand the execution of a contract that expires in a year. Clubs do not "sell" players, they only take compensation for the premature termination of the contract. If you do not know this, then it is surprising to me why you write in topics about football.

So it's basically the same thing right? I see this as a form of business which contains money being transferred for the services of a player which is obviously the 'salary' of a player. And the compensation you are talking about is agreed by both clubs because the club having the ownership of the 'contract' of the player (not the player himself) is willing to terminate the contract prematurely.

In short, buying and selling.

Sorry, but these are completely different things. The rudest thing we can say using the word "sale" is that the club is selling its rights to the player's services. These rights arose from the club as a result of the signing of the contract. And then the club receives compensation if the contract is terminated ahead of schedule. But the club cannot "sell" the player anywhere in any way - it is always the player's decision. Mbappe can safely wait a year and PSG have no options to put pressure on him.

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July 15, 2023, 09:49:54 PM
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..And with Mbappe, this would be an extraordinary thing, but it's still wishful thinking at this time, because it's still just rumours. But indeed, the rumors in the current transfer market are stronger than before.
If we look at Mbappe's rumored journey with Real Madrid, it has been going on for two years and until now the results are still the same without any significant clarity. Maybe for Mbappe if he leaves now he can do it, but he doesn't want to lose the bonuses he gets when his contract expires next year and many sources have said this.
Yes, talking about Mbappe to Real Madrid has been around for a long time and is still going on until now, it is still a rumor that is hot enough to be discussed. Because until now there has been no definite clarity regarding the move of a soccer star to Real Madrid. So this has become news material that is always eagerly awaited by the media and used by the media to always get hot news about football. And whether this will end the same as last season where Mbappe will stay and extend his contract at PSG or move to another club.

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July 15, 2023, 09:58:33 PM
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At least some improvement would be great for them, bringing in a star player would be very difficult and maybe this will give some consideration but I think if indeed the star player option cannot be brought in then finding a suitable player at a slightly cheaper price could be a good thing for them too.

Right now they have to realize that even though this season is the Europa League champion, but still they still have a lot of gaps and that should not be allowed because if they let this too much, this will have a bad impact and it could be that the start of their season next season will be the same as this season in domestic competitions with the tight schedule they have.
Not too strong finances will prevent Sevilla from bringing in quality players to strengthen their squad depth for next season. But yes, as you said, Sevilla management can do the second option by looking for talented players in unpopular leagues so they can get them at a relatively cheap price. Sevilla will be playing in the Champions League next season so if they want to go far they will definitely need to have a lot of good quality players in their squad.

On the one hand, Sevilla will find it difficult to compete with Barcelona and Real Madrid in Laliga because the two Laliga giants are much stronger than them. Yes, for that, Sevilla will only compete and give their best in Laliga or in the Champions League. Sevilla is one of the strongest teams in the Europa League and they will be able to prove their quality again in the Champions League next season.

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July 15, 2023, 10:11:05 PM
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I think there will be no such thing as Mbappe to join a Saudi Arabian team already now. It just doesn't make sense at all. Even for money I mean as he is already making the highest amount of money among all the players in Europe and the gap is really wide between them. He must be just concentrated on how he can win more titles - especially the Champions League one.

Here at this point he would surely prefer to go to a team that are capable of winning the Champions League title. Real Madrid come to my mind directly at the top of this list as they are the leader in the rankings related to the number of titles by a big gap. Therefore sooner or later Mbappe would join Real Madrid.

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July 15, 2023, 10:19:58 PM
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Mbappe egoistic attitude is the strongest factor. He will experience a decline in performance he considers himself an important player at the club that other players must respect, this condition is certainly not good for the team and also for Mbappe himself. Humble attitude needs to be prioritized, he cannot play alone without the support of other players, when other players boycott Mbappe by not giving him assists, he will have difficulty scoring goals and improving his performance.

For this reason alone, Ancelotti may be reluctant to include Mbappe in the squad. Mbappe is capable of scoring a lot of goals and his fitness is very good. But his behavior is completely different from Real Madrid players. Real Madrid is a strong team as a team. Real Madrid's good results are due to the contribution of almost every player in the team. Ancelotti will certainly not want to rely solely on Mbappe to shape his strategy. Mbappe's main problem is his unwillingness to assist. He just wants to score.
Even though it looks selfish in terms of every match, I think it's fine to rely on Kylian Mbappe because he can indeed be superior to other players with very strong performance and the tactics that are always used are very precise.
But I understand that Ancelotti is thinking again about getting Kylian Mbappe because of fears he will change strategy which will end in conflict with other players at his own club.
Kylian Mbappe is indeed a very talented player but I don't like it when he is too arrogant like he wants to excel himself.

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July 15, 2023, 10:31:05 PM
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I think there will be no such thing as Mbappe to join a Saudi Arabian team already now. It just doesn't make sense at all. Even for money I mean as he is already making the highest amount of money among all the players in Europe and the gap is really wide between them. He must be just concentrated on how he can win more titles - especially the Champions League one.

Here at this point he would surely prefer to go to a team that are capable of winning the Champions League title. Real Madrid come to my mind directly at the top of this list as they are the leader in the rankings related to the number of titles by a big gap. Therefore sooner or later Mbappe would join Real Madrid.
Mbappe is still quite young so it's unlikely he will take a stance on leaving the European stage. Moreover, Mbappe has never won the Trophy Ucl so he really has to focus on reaching the Trophy ucl before he leaves Europe. His current situation at PSG is the in golden boy of the PSG team, but he often throws tantrums which makes his future at PSG not very clear because the PSG management wants to sell Mbappe to another team in this transfer window.

If Mbappe goes to real madrid in this transfer window I can't imagine how strong the real madrid squad would be if there was mbappe in the depths of their squad. Surely the opportunity for Mbappe to win the ucl trophy will be achieved if he joins Real Madrid. I don't think there has been any sign of an official offer from Real Madrid for PSG recently.

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July 16, 2023, 02:19:55 AM
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Mbappe is still quite young so it's unlikely he will take a stance on leaving the European stage. Moreover, Mbappe has never won the Trophy Ucl so he really has to focus on reaching the Trophy ucl before he leaves Europe. His current situation at PSG is the in golden boy of the PSG team, but he often throws tantrums which makes his future at PSG not very clear because the PSG management wants to sell Mbappe to another team in this transfer window.
He wants many things, Champions League, Euro and Ballon d'Or, of course, can not lack of high salary. Before he get those titles and awards, he will not leave Europe but staying in Europe with high salary is his demand too. With his belief that PSG are not able to win Champions League and he does not want to waste his time with them, he will leave PSG soon. High salary, other clubs can satisfy Mbappe like Real Madrid.

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If Mbappe goes to real madrid in this transfer window I can't imagine how strong the real madrid squad would be if there was mbappe in the depths of their squad. Surely the opportunity for Mbappe to win the ucl trophy will be achieved if he joins Real Madrid. I don't think there has been any sign of an official offer from Real Madrid for PSG recently.
Mbappe will be only one piece for Real Madrid squad and he will not change them entirely. We must see that in Real Madrid, they have problems with an ageing squad and even they have been preparing old players gradually, during the transition there will be some hiccups and Mbappe can not cover all of Real Madrid issues.

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July 16, 2023, 04:08:54 AM
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Even though it looks selfish in terms of every match, I think it's fine to rely on Kylian Mbappe because he can indeed be superior to other players with very strong performance and the tactics that are always used are very precise.
But I understand that Ancelotti is thinking again about getting Kylian Mbappe because of fears he will change strategy which will end in conflict with other players at his own club.
Kylian Mbappe is indeed a very talented player but I don't like it when he is too arrogant like he wants to excel himself.
I am agree with that because indeed Mbappe can always play well and has points when the opportunity arises.
If it weren't for Mbappe being a great player with quite good attacking skills, it would have been certain that PSG would have released Mbappe and sold it to another club.
Ancelotti is an experienced coach so it is impossible for him to worry that Mbappe's arrival could change strategy and lead to conflicts with other players, there must be a way that Ancelotti uses to make Mbappe have a good game and be able to collaborate with other players.

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July 16, 2023, 04:33:35 AM
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The steps taken by Real Madrid are very appropriate not to be too hasty to catch up to Mbappe and it is better for Real Madrid to just watch the problem get over first. I think that even if Real Madrid came now to get Mbappe it would really make PSG a little arrogant and also of course they would not hesitate to increase the transfer fee for Mbappe because at the moment only Real Madrid can afford Mbappe. But if Real Madrid are patient enough to wait until next year, they won't spend a penny on Mbappe and that's where PSG will really feel the loss and regret it.
I think PSG will let Mbappe go in this transfer window so if Real madrid want to wait for Mbappe to end his contract next season that will never happen. On the one hand, Psg bought Mbappe at a fairly high price before so they don't want to lose Mbappe for nothing in the coming season. So, Real Madrid should be able to see the opportunities that exist to make an offer this month or next month if Real Madrid are really serious about getting Mbappe.

PSG management certainly hopes that Mbappe will not leave this summer and he must also sign a new contract extension. However, behind his good attitude PSG was not well received by Mbappe, so speculation arose about Mbappe's future in this transfer window. I hope Real Madrid can take a serious approach to Mbappe.
Although there is an opportunity this summer to sign Mbappe, Real Madrid understand very well that the fee desired by PSG is very unreasonable, it could be 150 million euros to 250 million euros. Try to imagine which club would want to pay a player with the remaining contract for one more season at such a high cost.

Apart from that, Real Madrid will certainly calculate the salary expenses that will be given by Mbappe and of course that amount is not small considering that Mbappe is a star player. Well, it's the above factors that I think have kept Real Madrid from making an offer until now and Florentino Perez would prefer to wait for Mbappe until his contract expires next year.

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July 16, 2023, 04:35:21 AM
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Even though it looks selfish in terms of every match, I think it's fine to rely on Kylian Mbappe because he can indeed be superior to other players with very strong performance and the tactics that are always used are very precise.
But I understand that Ancelotti is thinking again about getting Kylian Mbappe because of fears he will change strategy which will end in conflict with other players at his own club.
Kylian Mbappe is indeed a very talented player but I don't like it when he is too arrogant like he wants to excel himself.
I am agree with that because indeed Mbappe can always play well and has points when the opportunity arises.
If it weren't for Mbappe being a great player with quite good attacking skills, it would have been certain that PSG would have released Mbappe and sold it to another club.
Ancelotti is an experienced coach so it is impossible for him to worry that Mbappe's arrival could change strategy and lead to conflicts with other players, there must be a way that Ancelotti uses to make Mbappe have a good game and be able to collaborate with other players.
I also personally think that if Mbappe leaves PSG and joins another team, then PSG will break the basic structure of the team. Because Kylian Mbappe is one of the best players in the attack, it will be very difficult for the team coach to fill that need by replacing him with another player.

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I think, Barcelona is planning to bring in some potential players in this summer, but I don't know if they have the money to sign kylian Mbappe and Victor Osimhen because those two players have potential skills to improve any team that will embrace them in this summer. Now that many teams are seriously working to ensure they sign in talented players that will help them to improve not to end up in second position or third position in the la Liga league competition than to work hard to ensure things work for their favour by winning the la Liga league title next season. Real Madrid is still focusing on PSG striker but the money the team is demanding from Real Madrid to pay for the player is making Real Madrid to quit, because they don't have such money to sign only one player in this summer.

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I think, Barcelona is planning to bring in some potential players in this summer, but I don't know if they have the money to sign kylian Mbappe and Victor Osimhen because those two players have potential skills to improve any team that will embrace them in this summer. Now that many teams are seriously working to ensure they sign in talented players that will help them to improve not to end up in second position or third position in the la Liga league competition than to work hard to ensure things work for their favour by winning the la Liga league title next season. Real Madrid is still focusing on PSG striker but the money the team is demanding from Real Madrid to pay for the player is making Real Madrid to quit, because they don't have such money to sign only one player in this summer.
Mbappe and Victor Osimhen I think are too expensive for Barca. they already have some up front, I don't think Xavi will push himself to throw a lot of money on one or two players at a very high price.
Barca with what they have at the moment will have no trouble in La Liga I'm sure. the most important thing for Xavi at the moment is their consistent performance. the target of the La Liga trophy or the Champions League I don't think is their priority. Xavi has shown his quality with the Barça team, no one will doubt his ability to manage a team that is even in financial trouble.



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July 16, 2023, 05:55:30 AM
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I think, Barcelona is planning to bring in some potential players in this summer, but I don't know if they have the money to sign kylian Mbappe and Victor Osimhen because those two players have potential skills to improve any team that will embrace them in this summer. Now that many teams are seriously working to ensure they sign in talented players that will help them to improve not to end up in second position or third position in the la Liga league competition than to work hard to ensure things work for their favour by winning the la Liga league title next season. Real Madrid is still focusing on PSG striker but the money the team is demanding from Real Madrid to pay for the player is making Real Madrid to quit, because they don't have such money to sign only one player in this summer.
I don't think Mbappe will ever be on Barcelona's radar. Currently, the Blaugrana almost have a mature squad with unstable financial conditions. I think the arrival of Gundogan is enough to complete the Barca squad to return to control of La Liga. Osimhen could be the right option if Xavi wants to add strength to his attack line, but the price is too high, of course the team from Catalan cannot afford it.



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July 16, 2023, 06:18:11 AM
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I don't think Mbappe will ever be on Barcelona's radar. Currently, the Blaugrana almost have a mature squad with unstable financial conditions. I think the arrival of Gundogan is enough to complete the Barca squad to return to control of La Liga. Osimhen could be the right option if Xavi wants to add strength to his attack line, but the price is too high, of course the team from Catalan cannot afford it.
Yes, it doesn't make sense for Mbappe to be on Barcelona's wanted list, this is impossible because Barca are in a bad financial condition. In addition to the several sanctions received recently, Barca must comply with the transfer market policy. I think Barca is a club with an extraordinary mentality in this regard, with the financial situation and the squad in need of rejuvenation they can still win La Liga. Utilizing big names and recruiting players with free transfer status is a good policy, so you avoid sanctions.

Next season I think Barcelona will still be the favorites to win with Madrid, Munich and Man City and Inter Milan in the Champions League. In La Liga, of course Real Madrid and ATM are the toughest competitors, on the other hand if they succeed there will be a new contract extension for Xavi and in his coaching career he will follow in the footsteps of Pep Guardiola.

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July 16, 2023, 06:23:48 AM
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If you look at Real Madrid's pre-season fixtures, they will face AC Milan in the near future, interestingly Real Madrid will face many big clubs in their pre-season matches. I want to see how they do in the pre-season matches, I won't judge them and conclude, but I will see the development they will show during the pre-season matches. There will always be a difference between pre-season matches and real matches, but it can be a reference even if it doesn't guarantee it.
We'll be shown some matches from big clubs as they prepare.
Real Madrid have new great players and they surely will add to the strength of that team, and maybe also add variety in terms of formations which can use of Real Madrid coach, because sometimes a coach often do experiments on his players. So yes, although that match is a friendly match but it might be good reference because the coach will try several formations. Also, interesting is that they will be playing vs Manchester United, if i'm not mistaken it's been a long time not meet since they last match in 2018.
Now they need a few things to rebalance the attack and to play big clubs like this straight away is of course pretty good.
Milan, Juventus, Manchester United and of course the last match I'm waiting for the first El Clasico with Barcelona.
Even if the format this time is only a friendly match, it will still be very interesting because no matter if it is an official match in a competition or a friendly, the tension is still the same because both have high prestige so the tension will definitely rise.

Speaking of El Clasico, Barcelona are now without their plauer golden era as players have left. Benzema and Lewandowski's rivalry was very short-lived, now we need to find candidates for player rivalry to heat up the El Clasico atmosphere even more  Roll Eyes.

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July 16, 2023, 06:39:11 AM
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I don't think Mbappe will ever be on Barcelona's radar. Currently, the Blaugrana almost have a mature squad with unstable financial conditions. I think the arrival of Gundogan is enough to complete the Barca squad to return to control of La Liga. Osimhen could be the right option if Xavi wants to add strength to his attack line, but the price is too high, of course the team from Catalan cannot afford it.
Players are valued and some are undervalued, with accordance to their performances. The blaugrana have no ambitions to sign Kylian Mbappe, who has been linked with Real Madrid for specific time, or Victor Osimhen. We are talking about players whose demands are greater and more valued in the transfer market, and Barcà has not offered to sign them, even if they would if their financial situation was better balanced. This summer, Barcelona added several good players, including IIkay Gundogan, who would strengthen the midfield for Xavi Hernandez, a fantastic structure for the club.

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