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Today at 06:23:18 PM
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They're ambitious but not wise, I can't say anything more about them, even just getting Nico Williams made their fans make a fundraiser, plus the plan to bring in Dani Olmo, everything could be chaotic for Barcelona's future.

What do you think is going on in their minds? They already have a pretty good squad at the moment, did this happen because of Real Madrid's mega transfer which succeeded in getting Kylian Mbappe?
Well if it was me I would have also said that this is a ridiculous offer. He is a far better player than what Barcelona is offering. And honestly there is no doubt that this offer is not going to be enough for Barcelona to actually get him. Barcelona will have to offer more money upfront to actually get him in the squad. The add ons are probably fine because well, they are add ons. But the actual offering has to be a lot higher. 40 million for such a quality player when almost anyone with a little bit of talent goes for hundred million is absolutely not possible.

Dani Olmo's current market value is €48M, and Barcelona offers a greater value (with other remaining notes as a bonus), so what happens if Barcelona can't get the titles that fall within Dani Olmo's clause? wouldn't that be just €40M?

This team is getting more ridiculous day by day, it would not be surprising if next season they could only be in the top 5, I think Atletico Madrid is more ready than them to take on La Liga next season. Who knows what other ridiculous news we'll see in Barcelona ahead of this new season.
Why is Dani Olmo's transfer value so low? Manchester United bought an 18 year old defender who had only one successful season for 50 million euros, and here is a European champion in the dawn of power, who is 26 years old and who should play at least 5-6 seasons at the highest level and they offer to buy him for 40 million euros?
We can assume that Barcelona are counting on luck with this approach and that Leipzig will not count the money from Olmo's transfer.
It is also unclear why Barcelona need Olmo, when there is someone to play at his position, but Barcelona lacks quality midfielders and if Barcelona would find a quality midfielder like Sergio Busquets in his time, it would be better than buying Olmo.

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Today at 06:29:19 PM
Last edit: Today at 07:01:18 PM by fuguebtc
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Barcelona really has a big ambition to get Dani Olmo and I'm sure most people here know about this news. For me this might be a reasonable offer but logically the team that owns the player also doesn't want to let go of a reliable player but paid in installments for several seasons. On the one hand Leipzig would definitely choose to release the player to another team that can pay in full without any risk.

And even though the offer will later be approved by Leipzig, it is actually a bad start for Barcelona finances because it adds to the burden of debt in the future. This is what Barcelona must avoid, which is only ambitious to bring in players without thinking about its finances in the future which are currently not recovering.
In installments? it's quite ridiculous for Barcelona class, it's better not at all in my opinion than forcing yourself which has a bad possibility later for the team and it will be very dangerous in the future, their problems are not over and want to add new problems just because they are ambitious to get Dani Olmo into the squad for next season.

I think if Leipzig rejects it is the right decision, because it is likely that not only Barcelona wants Dani Olmo, his performance at the Euro yesterday was quite brilliant and many teams paid attention to him, I don't think it's necessary to serve Barcelona, it's better to find a team that can pay in full.

I am very disappointed with Barcelona in such a way, it's embarrassing, yes although I understand why they do that, but it's better to maximize the resources that exist and have been collected, if they can train their players who are already in possession very well it will make Barcelona have the possibility of competing the same as in previous seasons, I think Barcelona is scared.

It is not even an option if they are going to reject this offer. They will be absolutely stupid if they actually accepted this kind of offer. Now I understand that a lot of club actually pay the price of a player in instalment. But I think that generally happens when the money is a lot. First of all it is almost criminal at these day and age to actually offer 40 million for a player like Olmo. And then they are going to pay it in instalment  Cheesy. I think everybody like the money up front instead of in instalment. But regardless, Leipzig is never going to accept a 40 million offer for him.

I understand why you feel like Barcelona has disappointed you. A lot of people do feel the same way about Barcelona right now. But what can they do? they do not have that much money right now and there will have to make offer with what they can afford. I also understand why a lot of people think that Barcelona should not even try if they do not have the money. But that is also not a solution as well. I always believe that you will never know unless you try. If Leipzig said that they would not sell him for anything less than 70 million instead of saying that the Barcelona offer was stupid or something, things could have been very different in my opinion. If Barcelona did offer 70 million in instalments for 4 years or five, shouldn't have been that bad of an offer.

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Today at 07:19:49 PM
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I agree with you. Hansi Flick should check Roque's ability. Roque is a very talented player. If Roque becomes a bit more experienced then maybe Barcelona will be able to earn a bigger amount by selling Roque next season.

But Hansi Flick has plenty of options to bolster Barcelona's attack. Perhaps this is why Hansi FLick is not interested in Roque at the moment. Hansi Flick currently has talented players like Ferran Torres, Lewandowski, Ansu Fati, Raphinha and Yamal. We are still not sure which three strikers Hansi Flick will give to the starting XI.

However, Flick is an experienced coach. However, I would have been happy if Roque had stayed with Barcelona this season. Barcelona are probably trying to make money by selling Vitor Roque due to financial crisis.

There are many uncertainties regarding Barcelona at the moment, we have read from various newspapers about various rumors that are always associated with Barcelona. The main topic is the financial crisis that is currently hitting them, plus several names that are rumored in this summer's transfer window. To the point that not only this young Brazilian striker is reported to be released by Barcelona, ​​but several other names are also rumored to be released by Barcelona to get fresh funds for them. Some of the names include De Jong, Raphinha, now Vitor Roque who is linked to one of the Saudi League clubs, but there is no certainty regarding this news. My guess is, if Vitor Roque is willing to leave, he might wait for another European League club. The reason is, he is a young player whose talent can develop further.

If I may have an opinion, I agree more if Feran Tores is released by Barcelona in this transfer window. But unfortunately, his transfer value is not high enough to help Barcelona's finances. Let's just follow every development, after all, the new La Liga competition still has a gap of time before it is held. I am very sure that as an experienced coach Flick knows and has a policy for his squad next season, especially regarding the future of Vitor Roque.


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Today at 07:32:38 PM
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Real Madrid's talent scouts don't need to doubt their capabilities, in contrast to rival clubs (you know what teams) who failed to manage the club until they had a lot of debt. They can even see young players from the Brazilian Serie A team, now that Endrick has officially joined & been introduced to Real Madrid. This is another successful investment from Real Madrid, although he failed to get number 9 at Real Madrid because of Mbappe, but I think he already has extraordinary achievements if he can adapt quickly at Real Madrid.
Actually Madrid talent scouts deserves every bit of commendation as they have over the years bring in only but the best deals for Madrid and investing in these talents scouted has always been of great gain to the team, this has kept them at the Pinnacle of the challenge in their domestic league and other elite leagues such that their most top rival in the la Liga is currently at no measure close to what they are and have been at this point. In my opinion the number 9 jersey best fits mbappe because he's of a better form and experienced than Endrick, I'm not saying endrick is any lesser but then mbappe is just the best man for the jersey and the responsibility that comes with it.

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Today at 07:44:52 PM
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Real Madrid's talent scouts don't need to doubt their capabilities, in contrast to rival clubs (you know what teams) who failed to manage the club until they had a lot of debt. They can even see young players from the Brazilian Serie A team, now that Endrick has officially joined & been introduced to Real Madrid. This is another successful investment from Real Madrid, although he failed to get number 9 at Real Madrid because of Mbappe, but I think he already has extraordinary achievements if he can adapt quickly at Real Madrid.
In recent years, Real Madrid have been able to sign high potential and talented youngsters who has risen to be the club's top players thanks to the club's scouting team. If you ask me, I don't think there's any better scouting team in Europe at the moment that's better than that of Real Madrid. Before this summer that we saw the arrival of Brazilian youngster Endrick, we've seen other greatly talented young players join the club like Turkiye 19 years international who joined last summer. Players like Vinicius Jr, Rodrygo, Federico Valverde all joined the club as teenagers and are now regular first team players. I expect the group of young players to continue to conquer Europe

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Today at 08:00:39 PM
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Why is Dani Olmo's transfer value so low? Manchester United bought an 18 year old defender who had only one successful season for 50 million euros, and here is a European champion in the dawn of power, who is 26 years old and who should play at least 5-6 seasons at the highest level and they offer to buy him for 40 million euros?
We can assume that Barcelona are counting on luck with this approach and that Leipzig will not count the money from Olmo's transfer.
It is also unclear why Barcelona need Olmo, when there is someone to play at his position, but Barcelona lacks quality midfielders and if Barcelona would find a quality midfielder like Sergio Busquets in his time, it would be better than buying Olmo.
Due to the recent performance of Spain in the last euro that lead them to winning it,I think Barcelona is trying to build a front squad of Spain they have 4 already, that's the way I view it not sure if my speculation is right besides, they went after Nico too..
IMO, I don't think Olmo is the good choice at the moment but due to their financial status if they can get him around that range , then they will see it as adv. Bouquet was build into what he was gradually, they can also build a player like him it will be somehow hard to get a perfect fit like him with their status.

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Today at 08:16:13 PM
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In recent years, Real Madrid have been able to sign high potential and talented youngsters who has risen to be the club's top players thanks to the club's scouting team. If you ask me, I don't think there's any better scouting team in Europe at the moment that's better than that of Real Madrid. Before this summer that we saw the arrival of Brazilian youngster Endrick, we've seen other greatly talented young players join the club like Turkiye 19 years international who joined last summer. Players like Vinicius Jr, Rodrygo, Federico Valverde all joined the club as teenagers and are now regular first team players. I expect the group of young players to continue to conquer Europe
Real Madrid is not a talent scout team, but I think Real Madrid is a team that quite often finds football stars from other clubs. They bought many star players from other clubs with good transfer value, such as when they brought in Rodrygo from Santos, Tchouaméni from Monaco, Camavinga from Stade Rennais, Bellingham from Dortmund, Vinicius from Flamengo and Endrick from Palmeiras. All of these players were brought in with a transfer value of more than €30 million to more than €100 million.

I certainly don't need to mention more players that Real Madrid brought in with expensive transfer fees, but the first thing that impressed them was that Real Madrid was successful with their expensive transfers. On average, the players they bring in are players who have qualities above the average of other players, so it might be easy to get the best performance from them.

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Today at 08:26:23 PM
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I don't really know what has happened to Barcelona because they were actually doing well before Lionel Messi left the team in 2021 but i have made some research and found out that the major causes of the financial crisis rocking the club now was as a result of the COVID 19 pandemic and mismanagement of funds by the club's management and the current challenges that the club is facing now are some of the consequences that results from making wrong financial decisions so it will really take time before the team will recover which will definitely not be anytime soon because the club is already owing huge debts and numerous debts hinders the growth of a team.

The club's president and the fans can't expect any magic from the head coach Hansi Flick because he lacks the resources to run the club to a greater height, financial setback is one of the things that takes most teams backwards and if FC Barcelona is not careful more chaos may befall the team.
It "may" take time for them to recover from those bad periods, but at the same time we need to realize that they are not looking to fix anything anytime soon neither. They are basically looking to make things get a lot worse, and that's the trouble. I feel like we need to see this situation changing at times, and because of that we are talking about a situation that may not be all that great.

For all intends and purposes, they look like they are making a mistake and they are trying to keep getting things done in a way that they should not. Recovery is a painful and time consuming thing, and if they do it then aftermath will be much better and they will be awesome, but they do not want to do it right now, so the yare postponing it, making it even more time consuming and more painful for the future.

I am sensing that Laporte just wants to get a few more achievements before he is done, and after he screw the team over finally and the team is just done, he will leave and let someone else take care of the terrible period. After all, he is the reason why the team is in this shape, and if it was someone else who knows finances, that person would have managed this club better, less achievements but at least better future.

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Today at 08:33:19 PM
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In recent years, Real Madrid have been able to sign high potential and talented youngsters who has risen to be the club's top players thanks to the club's scouting team. If you ask me, I don't think there's any better scouting team in Europe at the moment that's better than that of Real Madrid. Before this summer that we saw the arrival of Brazilian youngster Endrick, we've seen other greatly talented young players join the club like Turkiye 19 years international who joined last summer. Players like Vinicius Jr, Rodrygo, Federico Valverde all joined the club as teenagers and are now regular first team players. I expect the group of young players to continue to conquer Europe

The squad that Real Madrid have built within the short time they’ve decided to go after young players since the era of Ronaldo and other top Real Madrid players came to end, no team have built such a formidable squad before. They are currently the best in Europe and they’ve gathered a squad that will last them a long time before they’ll think of signing players again. If they can continue in this format, bringing young talents into the club, it’ll be the greatest thing they’ll do for this club to continue thriving amongst the rest. With this method, they’ll minimize spending in every transfer windows and maximize their profits because those young players are loved the most and have more potential of blending well for the long time and win trophies for you most often.

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Today at 08:46:53 PM
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Atletico Madrid is trying to improve the team. They hired Robin Le Normand the player of Real Sociedad recently and signed a contract with him until 2029 for 30 million euros.
He is the first player they bought.
Robin Le Normand is a 27-year-old player who played in 167 games in La Liga. Atletico Madrid hired this player to have a better defensive line.



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Today at 08:56:36 PM
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The problem that Barcelona have always faced is that they always don't want to lose their players for sale and prefer to let them run out of contracts without any continuation and indeed that has happened in the last few seasons.
Yes, at least for now, what is being monitored by the market is Rapinha, Joao Felix, and also Vitor Roque. The latest news is that Aston Villa rejected the price offered by Barcelona, ​​which was €60m-€70m each for Raphinha and Joao Felix. Aston Villa felt that the price was too high and because of that, they immediately rejected the price offer. Until now, there have been no further negotiations regarding the player.

For Vitor Roque, Al-Hilal has actually started negotiations with Barcelona, ​​and this could be a good alternative for the club to get income from the sale. At least, Al-Hilal has started approaching the player, but it seems that it will not go smoothly. Roque still wants to stay in the European league, but on the other hand, Barcelona hopes to be able to sell the player this season.

Joao Felix does not belong to Barcelona so they will not interfere too much because after all until now Joao Felix is a player from Atletico and Barcelona only borrowed last season which of course is certain next season Joao will return to Atletico.

As for Raphinha, it seems that several EPL clubs want the services of this player because in addition to Aston Villa, there are other rumors that Newcastle are also ready to offer this player, it's just that the price given by Barcelona is too big and difficult to redeem such a clause.
Speaking of Victor Roque, I actually regret his talent at Barcelona. He is one of the young players who has potential, it's just that last season he was rarely even glimpsed by Xavi, making Roque want to leave because he didn't get flying hours at Barcelona. If in the end the SPL wants young players like this and Roque also has no problem being in the SPL then I think it could be a good thing for Barcelona because keeping but not giving flight hours to young players in the end it will also not be too good for Roque and Barcelona.

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Today at 09:31:33 PM
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Atletico Madrid have announced the signing of Real Sociedad center back Robin Le Normand. Le Normand, who performed well both in La Liga last season and at Euro 2024, was expected to go to one of the big teams. His next stop was Atletico. They made a good transfer. Now Atletico are expected to send Mario Hermoso to another club because there are too many center backs. It's very likely that his new destination will be the Turkish League.

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Today at 09:33:03 PM
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Atletico Madrid is trying to improve the team. They hired Robin Le Normand the player of Real Sociedad recently and signed a contract with him until 2029 for 30 million euros.
He is the first player they bought.
Robin Le Normand is a 27-year-old player who played in 167 games in La Liga. Atletico Madrid hired this player to have a better defensive line.
Robin Le Normand was linked with Real Madrid in the previous season but this did not materialize. Yes, this season he was officially recruited by Atletico Madrid where a deal worth 30 million euros made Real Sociedad let him go. Atletico Madrid really needs to improve a lot this season because last season they were unable to compete strongly with Barcelona and Girona.

Alvaro Morata also left for another team in this transfer market, of course Simeone has a lot of work to do in balancing their strengths for next season. If you look at the existing attackers, only Griezmann is still standing and that is not certain because he has received many big offers from MLS teams. Atletico Madrid is heavily linked with Dovbyk in this transfer market, but Girona wants to keep their productive striker in this transfer market.

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Today at 09:38:21 PM
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Source: https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/barcelona-told-significantly-improve-offer-095900238.html

Actually RB Leipzig considered this proposal of the Catalan club ridiculous

Well if it was me I would have also said that this is a ridiculous offer. He is a far better player than what Barcelona is offering. And honestly there is no doubt that this offer is not going to be enough for Barcelona to actually get him. Barcelona will have to offer more money upfront to actually get him in the squad. The add ons are probably fine because well, they are add ons. But the actual offering has to be a lot higher. 40 million for such a quality player when almost anyone with a little bit of talent goes for hundred million is absolutely not possible.


Dani Olmo's market value continues to grow and at the moment it is more or less around 55 million or even 60 million, which is the price that will definitely be paid if in the end there is a club that wants his services next season.
Last season he was with Leipzig quite well even with Openda he could close the gap left by Nkunku especially since he also played quite flexibly because he could be placed as a winger or attacking midfielder.
For Barcelona's offer, which is ready with 60 million with notes in installments and several conditions, of course this is a ridiculous thing and it is quite natural if an offer like this is immediately rejected by Leipzig because after all such an offer will not be included in the initial list especially since they must also be prepared to bring in other players if Dani Olmo leaves.

I think this is not a good move for Barcelona because by looking at the offer given indirectly this actually shows that they are quite weak for now and even seem to impose their will in a very bad financial condition.
 

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Today at 10:13:32 PM
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Barcelona really has a big ambition to get Dani Olmo and I'm sure most people here know about this news. For me this might be a reasonable offer but logically the team that owns the player also doesn't want to let go of a reliable player but paid in installments for several seasons. On the one hand Leipzig would definitely choose to release the player to another team that can pay in full without any risk.

And even though the offer will later be approved by Leipzig, it is actually a bad start for Barcelona finances because it adds to the burden of debt in the future. This is what Barcelona must avoid, which is only ambitious to bring in players without thinking about its finances in the future which are currently not recovering.

They're ambitious but not wise, I can't say anything more about them, even just getting Nico Williams made their fans make a fundraiser, plus the plan to bring in Dani Olmo, everything could be chaotic for Barcelona's future.

What do you think is going on in their minds? They already have a pretty good squad at the moment, did this happen because of Real Madrid's mega transfer which succeeded in getting Kylian Mbappe?


Source: https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/barcelona-told-significantly-improve-offer-095900238.html

Actually RB Leipzig considered this proposal of the Catalan club ridiculous

Well if it was me I would have also said that this is a ridiculous offer. He is a far better player than what Barcelona is offering. And honestly there is no doubt that this offer is not going to be enough for Barcelona to actually get him. Barcelona will have to offer more money upfront to actually get him in the squad. The add ons are probably fine because well, they are add ons. But the actual offering has to be a lot higher. 40 million for such a quality player when almost anyone with a little bit of talent goes for hundred million is absolutely not possible.
You know barcelona don't have big money that's why they try to send proposal with low price. Yes, Barcelona's offer was immediately rejected by Leipzig because it did not match their wishes. One of the hopes is of course that management must send back a proposal with an increased offer to reach an agreement with Leipzig in the Dani Olmo transfer saga.
Apart from that, a new issue has emerged where Manchester City are also very interested in Dani Olmo and if you look at Manchester City's performance in the transfer market, of course they are always successful in getting the players they are targeting.
For this reason, whoever can fulfill Leipzig's request will be the team that will succeed in getting Dani Olmo's signature.
Since the previous transfer market, Barcelona has continuously been cornered by other teams in the competition for players in the transfer market and the obstacle is financial problems.

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Today at 11:06:53 PM
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With the prospect of the young players like Yamal at Barca,and the potential signing of Nico Williams,I still see Barca as a very good team comes next season.Those players I mentioned have shown their quality in the Euros and are ready to make a combo that will be very deadly.
I know Madrid have signed Mbape,and they have Vinicius,Rodrigo and Bellingham,but what Yamal and Nico will do at those wings,we can't predict.
We can see how deadly they were in the Euros,and I'm quite sure if Nico can make that move,he will definitely be a nightmare to defenders in the Lalliga.

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