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I read some comments that only focus on seeing Mbappe's failure, but in reality the problem is not seen in the attack line but in the midfield which failed to play rhythm. I suspect the loss of Toni Kroos still has a big impact on the team, Ancelotti has not found the right replacement for that position. The international break could be the right time for Don Carlo to restart his squad. And I am still sure Los Blancos will soon find their best form.
Regarding negative comments about Mbappe because they expect too much while they forget the process to achieve the best game is not always instant. So if you keep demanding to see Mbappe score goals then please be patient. Slowly it will definitely happen because Ancelotti also understands Mbappe situation who is not used to a competition as tight as La Liga. In Ligue 1 we may see Mbappe score goals in almost every match but in La Liga it is definitely different. The competition between clubs in Ligue 1 is at a different level that cannot be compared to Spanish clubs. In my opinion, in the last PSG games of last season, I saw Mbappe not being able to score goals. Even in the Euro games, Mbappe was not able to score goals. He lost his rhythm and it will take some time for him to get back to the same. When he arrived at Real Madrid, I watched Real Madrid's games and saw that he has wasted many good opportunities. Sometimes, even close to the opposing goalkeeper, he shoots very far from the target. Something that has even made me laugh. See this example:![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F09%2F03%2F9g4Wj.png&t=665&c=z_eaffYKt2yIJQ) This happened in the game against Las Palmas, Mbappe could have easily scored in that situation if it was a few months ago. But the current Mbappe took a shot that didn't even reach the Las Palmas goalkeeper. I was laughing because this kind of thing happens to players without great skills. By that I mean that people are right to criticize Mbappe's mistakes.
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September 03, 2024, 10:42:33 PM |
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I also think Real Madrid have a leader problem at the moment, the absence of Kross is obvious. Because everyone wants to get forward and score goals and they don't seem to care about the game plan. Real Madrid's squad is very bloated. Even talents like Diaz and Endrick are not getting minutes. What worries me the most is that Mbappe's incompatibility will cost Real Madrid dearly this season. Real Madrid didn't do anything good by signing Mbappe, on the contrary, it destabilized other players. I'm already saying that Ancelotti may not be able to manage this team easily in the future.
I don't think that's the case because the leader since Kroos has been in the squad is not Kroos, so there's no problem with the leader on the pitch because even though we lost Nacho, we still have Carvajal and Modric, who are good leaders for the youngsters of Madrid this time. Kroos' role is crucial but of course it's a transition because sooner or later he's going to leave and this season he did just that so there's no need to feel like it's over because Madrid's midfield is still pretty good even though Kroos is definitely irreplaceable but there are still some young players who can fill the void in other ways. The situation was complicated when Camavinga and Jude were injured but once they've recovered I think Madrid's situation will be much better again as the attacking schemes become more complex. Real Madrid is not a team that relies on a player because I think it's not because of Toni Kross' retirement that their performance was not good at the beginning of the season but the unification of their playing style has not found something that is attractive to each other. We have to see their game because so far their game is still quite good and they only need Mbappe's performance to revive to bring victory in every match. Well you are right, Bellingham's absence so far has also had an impact on Real Madrid's performance because Bellingham is a player who is able to bring victory to the team. He an injury that had to miss several matches and I will wait for his presence on the field when he recovers because Bellingham will be able to revive the team's performance.
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September 04, 2024, 12:03:26 AM |
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Real Madrid is not a team that relies on a player because I think it's not because of Toni Kross' retirement that their performance was not good at the beginning of the season but the unification of their playing style has not found something that is attractive to each other. We have to see their game because so far their game is still quite good and they only need Mbappe's performance to revive to bring victory in every match. Well you are right, Bellingham's absence so far has also had an impact on Real Madrid's performance because Bellingham is a player who is able to bring victory to the team. He an injury that had to miss several matches and I will wait for his presence on the field when he recovers because Bellingham will be able to revive the team's performance.
I also think Real Madrid bad start to season is not just because Toni Kroos retired. Team needs to work together better. But I believe they can improve if Kylian Mbappe plays well. He can make big difference. And you mentioned big problem that is Jude Bellingham injury has hurt the team. He is a great player who can help them to win. I am excited to see him play again when he is healthy. If Mbappe and Bellingham both will start play well I hope that Real Madrid can start winning again.
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September 04, 2024, 12:10:36 AM |
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Yes, that's right. Mbappe is still in the process of adapting at the beginning of the season and gaining confidence, especially since he is at Real Madrid as a striker, unlike when he played at PSG, his position was LW. Of course, this change in position takes time and process and yesterday's match was a little visible, hopefully after the international break Real Madrid's game will be more solid.
In addition, why did Mbappe have difficulties in the first three matches because actually Mbappe only needs support from his teammates. This reminds me of a few years ago when Benzema was still at Real Madrid, he also had difficulty scoring goals. However, he was lucky to have one teammate who was willing to help support him. Actually at that time Ronaldo could have scored a goal, but he chose to provide an assist to Benzema, and as a result Benzema was able to score a goal. With these goals, his own mentality will improve, and that's what Mbappe needs right now.
You guys needs to stop talking about this adaptation of a thing ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) it's just like you talking about same adaptation when he went for World Cup ,he played well and exceptionally in world cup(you guys didn't mention adaptation)...his performance was low in Euro(just a reminder) and you guys didn't talk about adaptation when he scored his first goal on his debut. He's not the only player that have the chance to score, it's just the high expectations of goals from him that's killing it though his performance wacks these days he missed some clear chances even though there hasn't been too much of communication between him and Vini recently maybe Bellingham return could change alot (who knows).
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September 04, 2024, 04:39:41 AM |
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You guys needs to stop talking about this adaptation of a thing ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) it's just like you talking about same adaptation when he went for World Cup ,he played well and exceptionally in world cup(you guys didn't mention adaptation)...his performance was low in Euro(just a reminder) and you guys didn't talk about adaptation when he scored his first goal on his debut. He's not the only player that have the chance to score, it's just the high expectations of goals from him that's killing it though his performance wacks these days he missed some clear chances even though there hasn't been too much of communication between him and Vini recently maybe Bellingham return could change alot (who knows). I think adaptation is very important for players who have just joined a new club like Mbappe. Because in all football teams not only individual talent and skills are needed. However, teamwork and chemistry are very important to pay attention to. Therefore, good adaptation is very necessary for every player who joins the club. Because if there is just one player who cannot adapt well, this will definitely destroy the team's strategy on the field. Therefore, I say adaptation is very necessary in a football team. Because the proof is that Real Madrid is currently having difficulty returning to its best performance when Mbappe is in the squad. This means that it is quite clear that adaptation is very necessary at this stage. Moreover, Mbappe is positioned as a striker at Real Madrid, therefore as the spearhead, Mbappe must be able to connect and adapt well with his teammates. So with this, it is clear that Mbappe must adapt well, so that Real Madrid's game can be even sharper on the front lines. Because as you said, Vinicius doesn't seem to communicate well with Mbappe. So this is clear evidence that Mbappe has not adapted well to Real Madrid. And talking about Bellingham, I think he can be a good mediator between Vini and Mbappe. So it is not impossible that if Bellingham returns the situation will be even better.
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September 04, 2024, 07:02:23 AM |
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You guys needs to stop talking about this adaptation of a thing ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) it's just like you talking about same adaptation when he went for World Cup ,he played well and exceptionally in world cup(you guys didn't mention adaptation)...his performance was low in Euro(just a reminder) and you guys didn't talk about adaptation when he scored his first goal on his debut. He's not the only player that have the chance to score, it's just the high expectations of goals from him that's killing it though his performance wacks these days he missed some clear chances even though there hasn't been too much of communication between him and Vini recently maybe Bellingham return could change alot (who knows). I think adaptation is very important for players who have just joined a new club like Mbappe. Because in all football teams not only individual talent and skills are needed. However, teamwork and chemistry are very important to pay attention to. Therefore, good adaptation is very necessary for every player who joins the club. Because if there is just one player who cannot adapt well, this will definitely destroy the team's strategy on the field. Therefore, I say adaptation is very necessary in a football team. Because the proof is that Real Madrid is currently having difficulty returning to its best performance when Mbappe is in the squad. This means that it is quite clear that adaptation is very necessary at this stage. Moreover, Mbappe is positioned as a striker at Real Madrid, therefore as the spearhead, Mbappe must be able to connect and adapt well with his teammates. So with this, it is clear that Mbappe must adapt well, so that Real Madrid's game can be even sharper on the front lines. Because as you said, Vinicius doesn't seem to communicate well with Mbappe. So this is clear evidence that Mbappe has not adapted well to Real Madrid. And talking about Bellingham, I think he can be a good mediator between Vini and Mbappe. So it is not impossible that if Bellingham returns the situation will be even better. What you are actually saying is that Kyler mbape has not gel well and connect to the playing system of real madrid not adaptation, when talking of adaptation, it's mostly about individual and how they have gel into their so rounding, and Kyler mbape has done just that, for the few matches he has played, he has proven that he wouldn't flop as Eden hazard, but the difficulties the real Madrid team is going through boils down to carlo ancelotti not being able to get his tactic right, due to the fact that he just want to feature all of his top quality players, and playing Kyler mbape as an attacker instead of a left winger is actually reducing his attacking threat, so one of the reason the team is struggling right now is because Carlo ancelotti just want to create room for Kyler mbape, vinicious junior and Rodrigo without thinking that he is actually pushing some of them out of their natural position, and that is what obstructing the attacking rythme of this real Madrid side. Lastly, the second reason real madrid is actually struggling now is because they have not replace their chief dictator in the middle of the park, which was Toni Kross, Luca modric would have been a better replacement, but due to his age, he can't play in that position more than 30 minutes, so real madrid needs someone that brings the same quality as Toni Kross, for them to find their rythme back to the level it once was.
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September 04, 2024, 07:04:27 AM |
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Regarding negative comments about Mbappe because they expect too much while they forget the process to achieve the best game is not always instant. So if you keep demanding to see Mbappe score goals then please be patient. Slowly it will definitely happen because Ancelotti also understands Mbappe situation who is not used to a competition as tight as La Liga. In Ligue 1 we may see Mbappe score goals in almost every match but in La Liga it is definitely different. The competition between clubs in Ligue 1 is at a different level that cannot be compared to Spanish clubs.
of course when Mbappe was at PSG of course it can be said that Mbappe always scored goals and Mbappe always performed better but when in Laliga there will certainly be a difference because in Laliga of course the competition is very tight, but of course it is not easy for Mbappe to be able to adapt at Real Madrid. but of course it is no stranger that many people always want Mbappe to perform better and of course many forget that success is not something that is easy to achieve. but it seems that now Mbappe is starting to get used to Laliga and of course in the end Mbappe's strength will be even better because he will be used to the Spanish League which has fiercer competition than Ligue 1. and of course now Mbappe fans definitely want to see him score again in the next match and of course after Mbappe scored his first 2 goals against Betis it will certainly make Mbappe more confident for the next match and of course he wants to achieve the top scorer this season. and it seems that now Real Madrid is starting to be serious about being able to continue winning and Mbappe is starting to get better and Ancelotti is also very great and he really understands what to do to make Real Madrid even better. and of course for people who doubted Mbappe's performance at Real Madrid, of course, now they are starting to not doubt Mbappe's greatness.
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September 04, 2024, 07:18:28 AM |
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September 04, 2024, 07:49:40 AM |
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Real Madrid are currently not doing well, even though they are unbeaten in the four games they have played, but the storm of injuries that has hit their players could disrupt the stability of the team. Several players have entered the treatment room, Dani Ceballos, Ferland Mendy and Aurelian Tchouameni are certain to follow Jude Bellingham who previously suffered an injury. Dani Ceballos is expected to be out for around 6-8 weeks with an ankle problem, while Ferland Mendy and Aurelian Tchouameni have been forced out of the France squad and are certain to miss the UEFA Nations League.
Real Madrid are currently four points behind Barcelona, but with the increasing number of injuries, Ancelotti will have to rely on other available players to replace them. After the international break, Ancelotti must prepare his team to face Vfb Stuttgart in the Champions League, but it is not yet known who will be fit for that match. Will Real Madrid be able to overcome this challenge easily or will it be even more difficult to get out of the pressure due to the team's stability being disrupted due to the many injured players.
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September 04, 2024, 08:02:31 AM |
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Regarding negative comments about Mbappe because they expect too much while they forget the process to achieve the best game is not always instant. So if you keep demanding to see Mbappe score goals then please be patient. Slowly it will definitely happen because Ancelotti also understands Mbappe situation who is not used to a competition as tight as La Liga. In Ligue 1 we may see Mbappe score goals in almost every match but in La Liga it is definitely different. The competition between clubs in Ligue 1 is at a different level that cannot be compared to Spanish clubs.
Mbappe clearly needs time to show his good performance and especially he is a new player in the team and adjustments to playing style may be needed to understand each other's characters. In addition, it is very natural for fans to expect better performance from Mbappe and so far Mbappe has been able to give his best by scoring two goals in the previous match. Mbappe with the quality he has who is able to score goals from any position will clearly not be difficult for him to score goals in the upcoming matches. It is true that the competition looks so tight because at the beginning of this season their rivals, Barcelona, are running at a very good pace. But this is still quite early and I am sure Mbappe can amaze many fans with his performance until the end of the season. Starting a good journey from the beginning doesn't justify how the end will look like but only give us assurance that the team are good to go. Barcelona victory in four matches is actually a good start for them and also the best thing for them to do before the real madrid wakes up they are far, many are saying the don't expect Barcelona performance should be like this but I said the are all wrong, with the current squad Madrid have now Barcelona can't smile the titles this season not that they can't win a match, the Laliga title this season will definitely be between Real Madrid and Barcelona because they are the strongest team in the league currently. Real Madrid challenge is unforseen that why we are all seeing the results we don't expect to see, no players love to be injured it all happen unexpectedly.
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but the storm of injuries that has hit their players could disrupt the stability of the team. Several players have entered the treatment room, Dani Ceballos, Ferland Mendy and Aurelian Tchouameni are certain to follow Jude Bellingham who previously suffered an injury.
I don't think the injuries on Tchouameni and Mendy are serious. It looks like just precautions. Bellingham will be returning after the international break so the only serious injury they have is Ceballos who is not among the starters in the team. I think they will do just fine. Madrid doesn't have a big squad but they have quality. If all their players are fit they won't have any problems and they don't have many injury-prone players unlike their main rivals, Barcelona. The only injury-prone player in the team is Calvajal and he's been fit for a while now. Will Real Madrid be able to overcome this challenge easily or will it be even more difficult to get out of the pressure due to the team's stability being disrupted due to the many injured players?
I believe the first game after the international break will be the most difficult for Real Madrid. They'll need to go back to the rhythm of their team and injured players might not be fully fit too. To top it all up, they will be playing Real Sociedad away from home. Madrid are still favourites no matter the circumstances but Sociedad id going to be a difficult game.
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Real Madrid are currently four points behind Barcelona, but with the increasing number of injuries, Ancelotti will have to rely on other available players to replace them. After the international break, Ancelotti must prepare his team to face Vfb Stuttgart in the Champions League, but it is not yet known who will be fit for that match. Will Real Madrid be able to overcome this challenge easily or will it be even more difficult to get out of the pressure due to the team's stability being disrupted due to the many injured players.
Several players in Real Madrid's squad have been dealing with injuries. At the same time, Mbappe is yet to adapt himself well to the team. Because of these reasons, Real Madrid's overall performance is somewhat unstable. However, Madrid's players are talented. Coach Ancelotti is experienced. So it is expected that we will see a better performance from Madrid in the upcoming matches. Stuttgart will face Real Madrid in the first match of the Champions League. The Stuttgart team was very strong last season. But the Stuttgart team has not found a rhythm so far this season. The team failed to win both matches in the Bundesliga. So Madrid might not have too much of a task to win against Stuttgart.
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September 04, 2024, 08:31:24 AM |
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Real Madrid are currently four points behind Barcelona, but with the increasing number of injuries, Ancelotti will have to rely on other available players to replace them. After the international break, Ancelotti must prepare his team to face Vfb Stuttgart in the Champions League, but it is not yet known who will be fit for that match. Will Real Madrid be able to overcome this challenge easily or will it be even more difficult to get out of the pressure due to the team's stability being disrupted due to the many injured players.
A four-point gap is not a tough task for Ancelotti and the injury problems of several main players will also not be taken seriously because the professional coach always has the right way to overcome all these problems. Maybe Bellingham will be our concern if Bellingham is still absent when competing in the UCL. But the fact is that before Bellingham, Madrid still looked fine and now there is Mbappe who is able to contribute to helping Madrid win the title like last season. On the one hand, the second-string players that Madrid have are still very ready to replace the main players who are currently injured. We don't need to worry, everything will be fine.
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A four-point gap is not a tough task for Ancelotti and the injury problems of several main players will also not be taken seriously because the professional coach always has the right way to overcome all these problems. Maybe Bellingham will be our concern if Bellingham is still absent when competing in the UCL. But the fact is that before Bellingham, Madrid still looked fine and now there is Mbappe who is able to contribute to helping Madrid win the title like last season. On the one hand, the second-string players that Madrid have are still very ready to replace the main players who are currently injured. We don't need to worry, everything will be fine.
It's still early in the season so whatever the points difference I think it won't mean anything. Real Madrid's squad has qualified players in all lines so it's not difficult for Ancelotti to make some rotations. However, the problem right now is that Real Madrid has not been able to show its best performance after making several changes at the beginning of the season, that's a tough task for Ancelotti to be able to combine the chemistry between players so that this team can show its best performance. Seeing Real Madrid's difficulties at the beginning of the season and the opposite experienced by their rivals Barcelona makes La Liga competition likely to be quite fierce this season, but that is a positive thing for everyone because the more competitive the league, the better the teams are in building their squads, the impact will probably be felt by Real Madrid and Barcelona later.
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A four-point gap is not a tough task for Ancelotti and the injury problems of several main players will also not be taken seriously because the professional coach always has the right way to overcome all these problems. Maybe Bellingham will be our concern if Bellingham is still absent when competing in the UCL. But the fact is that before Bellingham, Madrid still looked fine and now there is Mbappe who is able to contribute to helping Madrid win the title like last season. On the one hand, the second-string players that Madrid have are still very ready to replace the main players who are currently injured. We don't need to worry, everything will be fine.
Real Madrid are in danger if Mbappe, Vinicius, Valverde, Guler, Bellingham, Modric, Rudiger, Carvajal, Militao, Courtois, and Lunin injured at once, while the reality only few of them are injured, they still have more players to replace them. This is Real Madrid, not Barcelona. When Real Madrid lost few players, the substitute players can replace their positions. Unlike Barcelona, when one of their best players injured i.e. Yamal or Lewandowski, they already in danger.
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September 04, 2024, 09:35:23 AM |
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I also think Real Madrid bad start to season is not just because Toni Kroos retired. Team needs to work together better. But I believe they can improve if Kylian Mbappe plays well.
I no that with the experience player Real Madrid has they are supposed to be wining all there matches but I wouldn't say they have a bad start because they have not lose any of there match, however if it was a situation were they lose some of there matches that should have been when they will be seen to have bad start, so actually wining two matches and at the same time draw two matches is not a bad performance and besides is very normal for some of the teams. Though they are supposed to be leading the table now instead of Barcelona but with time I believe they will take over because sometimes in football it doesn't matter how fast a club can be at the starting stage but what matters is how consistent they should be and I don't think Barcelona will maintain the consistency on the long run, I'm not wishing them bad but that's just what I see will happen to them as time goes.
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Bookmakers evaluate current results as fluctuations and deviations from the average, so far nothing serious has happened for them to change their global estimates. Unfortunately, the face-to-face game Real - Barcelona will take place only in the 11th round at the end of October. I think that such a schedule is not in Barcelona's favor. By the way, the next game for Barcelona will be quite difficult - away to Girona. So far, Girona is clearly not the same, but last year they defeated Barcelona twice.
Yeah I agree about Girona. At least in big games they don't look good for now. They lost really hard against Atletico Madrid. But their most recent results were positive with two wins. Let's see whether they will manage to finish in top 4. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I also wish El Clasico was much closer than that date. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Because we have a much stronger Barcelona this season. Hansi Flick has really made a big difference so far. I'm looking forward to watching their performance in bigger games. I'm glad that they signed Dani Olmo as well by the way. He has started to show his talent right away. He is helping attack organizations a lot. Maybe Nico Williams didn't come but it looks like Olmo will make up for him easily.
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September 04, 2024, 10:39:53 AM |
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Yeah I agree about Girona. At least in big games they don't look good for now. They lost really hard against Atletico Madrid. But their most recent results were positive with two wins. Let's see whether they will manage to finish in top 4. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Girona is still in stable condition but only in the first match they suffered a defeat and one draw and two wins, of course it is natural to talk about this one club because in the last two seasons Girona has always given a breakthrough to big clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona, Girona was able to match the top standings and that is not easy for a new challenger club like Girona, I hope that Girona is able to win its first title in La Liga of course it will surprise everyone.
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September 04, 2024, 10:48:12 AM |
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Starting a good journey from the beginning doesn't justify how the end will look like but only give us assurance that the team are good to go. Barcelona victory in four matches is actually a good start for them and also the best thing for them to do before the real madrid wakes up they are far, many are saying the don't expect Barcelona performance should be like this but I said the are all wrong, with the current squad Madrid have now Barcelona can't smile the titles this season not that they can't win a match, the Laliga title this season will definitely be between Real Madrid and Barcelona because they are the strongest team in the league currently.
Real Madrid challenge is unforseen that why we are all seeing the results we don't expect to see, no players love to be injured it all happen unexpectedly.
Of course, a club that is doing well at the start of the season does not guarantee that they will continue to play that way during the season, it proved to us that Barcelona is in good shape and has the strength to win the league as Real Madrid. It is not this season that a team will start to play well from the beginning of the season and then decline at the end of it. Juventus was strong in the Seria A from the start of last season, and we expected them to win the league because they did not compete in any European competitions. However, there was no consistency in their performance, and they were unable to maintain their winning ways, and Inter Milan won the league at the end. I believe Real Madrid will improve their games, this is only the beginning, and I am not surprised that they have suffered since Mbappe has not adapted to the league, but they will surpass Barcelona.
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Girona is still in stable condition but only in the first match they suffered a defeat and one draw and two wins, of course it is natural to talk about this one club because in the last two seasons Girona has always given a breakthrough to big clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona, Girona was able to match the top standings and that is not easy for a new challenger club like Girona, I hope that Girona is able to win its first title in La Liga of course it will surprise everyone.
Girona are in a good position for now, I thought that selling some players in the offseason would have a bigger impact on their results, but so far it's not that bad. Although Michel said that the team is not ready for the new season yet, so we can expect that they can try to be in the European Cup zone this season. But now there will be more games in the Champions League, there will be more of them than in the usual old format, so this can distract them from La Liga.
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