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February 13, 2020, 10:03:02 AM
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Great thread @Tytanowy Janusz, just found it and keep reading from the beginning.

Unfortunately, I am not a martingale expert and even don't have so much experience with implementing it to my play because every time I tried to get an advantage and used usual martingale in my betting, it ends up always with a total loose sooner or later. There was always this moment when 16 or 20 black or reds show up in a row, which drained bankroll to zero.
Of course, I tried different settings and adjustments, but the end was always this same, many blacks or reds in a row, sometimes with zero between them  Cheesy.

This thread is different from every martingale discussion because I see here many variations that I have never seen before and want to ask if OP has tested all of them already?

List of systems:
||nr.||name||explanation||simulation||short info||
||1||Martingale||xxx||xxx||double bet after loss||
||2||Martingale v2||xxx||xxx||triple bet after loss||
||3||Martingale v3||xxx||xxx||betting with 75% win rate||
||4||Martingale v4||xxx||xxx||Fibonacci progression||
||5||Martingale v5||xxx||xxx||Reset bet after winning twice in a row||
||6||Martingale v6||xxx||xxx||libert19 variation||
||7||Martingale v7||xxx||xxx||reverse martingale||

...In this thread I've decided to code every gambling system You have to show that none of them will beat casino...

Which one is the best and gives the best chances? Is there any which actually works?

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I see explanations about these variations in the thread, but it is hard to understand them correctly if one has not too much experience with martingale and that is why I want to get a straight answer if possible?

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March 31, 2020, 07:25:13 PM
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Hi OP,

Can you code/do virtualisation for martingale on 2,2x multiplier, or 120% profit on win. I would ask you for the difference between starting at 1 and starting at 2 with bankroll off 100,000.



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Which one is the best and gives the best chances? Is there any which actually works?

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I see explanations about these variations in the thread, but it is hard to understand them correctly if one has not too much experience with martingale and that is why I want to get a straight answer if possible?

The best martingale system variation so far is this one - tripling instead of doubling but still it is much worse than simply going into casino and betting all your money in single trade double or go home broken (single bet system). So does it work? No ... but still it is better than regular martingale and any other martingale variation.

Hi OP,
Can you code/do virtualisation for martingale on 2,2x multiplier, or 120% profit on win. I would ask you for the difference between starting at 1 and starting at 2 with bankroll off 100,000.
Thank you

Sure. I was very busy last days and completely forgot about this topic. I still need to code simulation for Harunobu and others. I will try to find time to finally come back to this tread.
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April 04, 2020, 01:41:51 PM
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He's basically doubling his bets after every loss. And the will go for broke once he's had 6 rolls of bad luck lol
it's not like that. IMO, he said about 2 strategies, first one is after 5 or 6 streak losses, you bet all in/max of your money for 6/7th bet (this is crazy, you can't be sure you will win since we have often seen more than 8 streak losses)
And the second is after 5 or 6 streak losses, you will go with 10% from your money which kinda safer than first one.

Going all in or bet all in 6 or 7th bet? Not an assurance thing to hit up as I had tried this in the past when I'm still playing dice on my newbie exploring days.
Waiting for some losing streaks then betting big on the next roll presuming that it would be a green.No matter how you tweaked it up
We cant really predict on how long would be the losing streak on that time.

Right, thinking like, "I have had 6 losses in a raw so I must be winning the next one" is wrong thinking, every dice roll comes with the same odds, you can't predict what next roll will bring.

No matter what strategy you're going to apply, luck is still needed for you to succeed in all of your gambling platform. I tried to gamble with a lot of strategy, somehow it is effective and will really put you in a winning streak but I realized that I'm just lucky that day. As I try to use my strategy from time to time, there's a time that my strategy is not that effective anymore. I already used that Martingale Strategy but in the end, I loss a huge amount of money because I'm not that lucky enough to win that, but because I trusted this strategy, I'm confident that I'll win my money back. In the next roll, I don't have any money to spent so I concluded that this Martingale is not that effective in all of situation in our gambling career so always be careful in gambling and learn how to discipline your self.

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April 04, 2020, 02:04:33 PM
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I've tried so many gambling systems and the conclusion I reached is that there's no way you can game their mechanism. The more you risk, the earlier you bust. The opposite applies too. I tried playing out with the "1.01x" payout through dice and I have miserably failed after more than 15 hours of automated bets. Through Martingale, the fastest bust was under 5 minutes.

If you wanna play, just go for it whatever the final outcome is. All you need is luck; have it and you'll happily end the gambling session in minutes. Smiley

The only thing you can game in a gambling session is the greed. If you can play it out and stop before a complete bust, then you're ahead of the game. Otherwise.. it's all about luck. A lifetime experience doesn't give you higher chances to win. In fact, if you've been a long time gambler, chances are you already are in a pretty deep debt.
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April 05, 2020, 03:32:09 AM
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I tried doubling my bets after losing 2 times or 3 times and reset when I won and repeat when I lose again but in the end all the money I gamble are lose in gambling. I am not very lucky with strategies and I would only base on luck or it's randomness when I gamble sometimes.
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April 05, 2020, 11:43:52 AM
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Which one is the best and gives the best chances? Is there any which actually works?

PS
I see explanations about these variations in the thread, but it is hard to understand them correctly if one has not too much experience with martingale and that is why I want to get a straight answer if possible?

The best martingale system variation so far is this one - tripling instead of doubling but still it is much worse than simply going into casino and betting all your money in single trade double or go home broken (single bet system). So does it work? No ... but still it is better than regular martingale and any other martingale variation.

Hi OP,
Can you code/do virtualisation for martingale on 2,2x multiplier, or 120% profit on win. I would ask you for the difference between starting at 1 and starting at 2 with bankroll off 100,000.
Thank you

Sure. I was very busy last days and completely forgot about this topic. I still need to code simulation for Harunobu and others. I will try to find time to finally come back to this tread.


Multiplying your bet is not a guaranteed strategy no matter if your a newbie or professional gambler. We all know that gambling is risky and the probability of winning is always lower than losing so it is your call if you will do that Martingale Strategy. Gambling is risky plus you will add more risk to it then the possibility of you winning will become impossible, most especially if you're not luck enough to win. The only chance to minimize the losses is to budget the money that you're going to spend and practice self-control. Self-discipline will make your mind comfortable in gambling and let you think peacefully and critically so that your decisions in gambling will be clear and you avoid being greedy. In order to win in gambling, it start with your own emotion and self-manipulation of thoughts and that Martingale Strategy is not effective at all.
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