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[JollyGood]

id like to know about bankroll and how the jackpots grow / calculated and if investors cover that?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5178376.msg52255165#msg52255165

Have you thought about what legal options winner have if the rocketpot.io scams users?

The terms and conditions on the website are useless and have no meaning. There is no information there of substance.

Best to keep away from that website until they add legal protection for users and for themselves and they stop hiding behind anonymity

[TheRocketman]

Another question: Do the jackpots come out of the crowd-funded bankroll? Or is that something that comes out of a fund provided by you? 

id like to know about bankroll and how the jackpots grow / calculated and if investors cover that?

The jackpots wins are not paid from the bankroll - they are funded from the wagers (bets) and are part of the house edge. This is the reason why the game can be EV positive to the player in certain scenarios (as Ryan pointed out earlier) - the investors are not at risk however since the jackpots are paid by the house.

This is also part of the reason why we decided to have a 50/50 bankroll / house profit split

Someone also asked on the game chat how the jackpots grow -> so the more (and bigger) bets the faster they go up.

Is there someone won the mini jackpot already? If I remember it correctly the mini jackpot was more than 0.1btc and now it is 0.014btc only so I assume there was someone hit it in the last 24 hours. Probably it was Godmode who gamble like nonstop bet with 22.22mBTC bet @3x
It seems that all players who play here are jackpot hunters only, they play fixed bet amount with low payout in a hope to reach the minimum payout for the jackpot then they will have chance to spin the wheel.

yes someone has indeed won it. the jackpot wheels have been activated quite often so far

[panjul07]

Something new for a crash game with jackpot on it. Design is good as well compared to common crash game, I can say that the owner works to make it looks better than the other crash sites. Really a good start so far.
Coming up to the jackpot, so the higher bet amount has higher chance to be chosen to spin the wheel once the crash reach the minimum payout for each jackpot? Can we see the jackpot winners list? It seems that you have some jackpot winners already since you launch it.

[TheRocketman]

Something new for a crash game with jackpot on it. Design is good as well compared to common crash game, I can say that the owner works to make it looks better than the other crash sites. Really a good start so far.
Coming up to the jackpot, so the higher bet amount has higher chance to be chosen to spin the wheel once the crash reach the minimum payout for each jackpot? Can we see the jackpot winners list? It seems that you have some jackpot winners already since you launch it.

thanks for the kind feedback!

Yes the higher the bet amount the higher chance to be chosen to spin the wheel. You can even see every player's spin chance on the player list (refreshed every round of course)

Good point on the jackpot winner list - there is no easy way to see who won them now but we'll add a page at some point listing winners. Maybe something like a hall of fame Now you can only see it if you look at the history of the rounds

[veleten]

while the game itself looks very neat and there are several interesting features -
(love the jackpots and the announcement table , although it could be more informative )
it is yet another crash clone that only accepts bitcoins , thus the market is quite limited
also the questions about jackpots: are they provably fair? how can you check if the wheel is not programmed to stop at 0 forever and ever
50x multipliers are happening very often and it should give the players unfair advantage +EV if they all play low wager and hunt for jackpots
which is the smartest thing to do , by the way , given the current model
also running a house bot that bets huge amounts kind of removes that risk for the house since the bot ( or "legit" player associated with the site ) has always higher chances to get picked
and encouraging people to bet higher , so this is both unacceptable scenarios
please , test the game before the release , not after the public bankroll is announced

[Oceat]

Not impressed.

There is no real meaningful contract in the terms and conditions. Who exactly can users take to court if fraud takes place?

There is no company or other ownership details or any contact address and telephone number. This is a massive risk for any potential game players.

I believe everything could be sorted out in time let's just give them the time to improve their site if there is a problem/suggestion i think OP could easily make things possible. Besides this is just a new site that is trying to make a name to all of the existing reputable ones.

[milewilda]

Congratulations on the launch. This is pretty much the most impressive bustabit clone I've seen to date.

Anyway, nice job. Cool to see a new site.

This is already an enough word for me to check out the site. lol but the best part that turns me off is on when i do surf the site it does still
require for me to register first before i can able to peek on whats inside which do really sucks but well i did proceed and i can say that this
one is pretty cool among other crash game sites that do popped out in the market.

[JollyGood]

Not impressed.

There is no real meaningful contract in the terms and conditions. Who exactly can users take to court if fraud takes place?

There is no company or other ownership details or any contact address and telephone number. This is a massive risk for any potential game players.

I believe everything could be sorted out in time let's just give them the time to improve their site if there is a problem/suggestion i think OP could easily make things possible. Besides this is just a new site that is trying to make a name to all of the existing reputable ones.

Many thanks for the post.

I tend to agree with you in part but if so much effort can be made to code, host and get the site up and running then registering a company should not have been a problem.

satoshibet.io was also launched without much fanfare in March 2019 and one day it just vanished without any announcement. Nobody knows what happened to any user account balances that were on there and nobody knows why they shut down. Very alarmed at what I was looking at my first post in their now abandoned thread is similar to the first one I made here as I asked them details about who to sue if the website goes bust or if they scams users.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5119826.60
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5119826.msg50288000#msg50288000
https://twitter.com/Satoshibet_io

On a different note, I do wish the website owners success because they are a new business just as you mentioned but that is no excuse for not putting clear ownership and liability details in their terms of service.

[Twinkledoe]

Are you going to develop mobile app later on? There are many players that will utilise that mobile app because they can play practically anywhere at anytime, whenever they have extra time, during break or while traveling. I think you should also consider this even if you said it is already optimised for most mobile browsers.

[bering]

Are you going to develop mobile app later on? There are many players that will utilise that mobile app because they can play practically anywhere at anytime, whenever they have extra time, during break or while traveling. I think you should also consider this even if you said it is already optimised for most mobile browsers.

In my opinion mobile app is not too necessary that as long the gambling sites can be played use mobile phone i think that's good and they says they were concern about this and the site fully optimised for almost all the most popular mobile browsers however sorry to asking but i could not find the terms for requirements about minimum amount to withdraw or deposit

[TheRocketman]

while the game itself looks very neat and there are several interesting features -
(love the jackpots and the announcement table , although it could be more informative )
it is yet another crash clone that only accepts bitcoins , thus the market is quite limited
also the questions about jackpots: are they provably fair? how can you check if the wheel is not programmed to stop at 0 forever and ever
50x multipliers are happening very often and it should give the players unfair advantage +EV if they all play low wager and hunt for jackpots
which is the smartest thing to do , by the way , given the current model
also running a house bot that bets huge amounts kind of removes that risk for the house since the bot ( or "legit" player associated with the site ) has always higher chances to get picked
and encouraging people to bet higher , so this is both unacceptable scenarios
please , test the game before the release , not after the public bankroll is announced

Honestly I don't see a problem since any user on that player list is playing with real BTC and on par with other players. So I am not too sure what changes, for example, we've had another player yesterday that went for the same strategy and wagered quite a lot for 6+ hours.

Moreover - it is up to bankroll investors to take advantage of these high-rolling jackpot hunters. Since the investors don't take on any jackpot risk, jackpot hunters are good for them since they bet a lot

I think as more users join the game it will all balance out. That being said I'll use the opportunity to invite everyone again to try Rocketpot

[mitchr4]

Are you going to develop mobile app later on? There are many players that will utilise that mobile app because they can play practically anywhere at anytime, whenever they have extra time, during break or while traveling. I think you should also consider this even if you said it is already optimised for most mobile browsers.

In my opinion mobile app is not too necessary that as long the gambling sites can be played use mobile phone i think that's good and they says they were concern about this and the site fully optimised for almost all the most popular mobile browsers however sorry to asking but i could not find the terms for requirements about minimum amount to withdraw or deposit

I think using a mobile app might be more optimal than using mobile browsers. The experience when playing on mobile browsers I always get lagging in the game. Crash game is a risky game when you are late to press crashes when playing manually. But however, playing on a mobile browser depends on how high the specifications of your device.

[UserU]

In my opinion mobile app is not too necessary that as long the gambling sites can be played use mobile phone i think that's good and they says they were concern about this and the site fully optimised for almost all the most popular mobile browsers however sorry to asking but i could not find the terms for requirements about minimum amount to withdraw or deposit

Responsive is the new app nowadays.

[TheRocketman]

In my opinion mobile app is not too necessary that as long the gambling sites can be played use mobile phone i think that's good and they says they were concern about this and the site fully optimised for almost all the most popular mobile browsers however sorry to asking but i could not find the terms for requirements about minimum amount to withdraw or deposit

Responsive is the new app nowadays.

We're actually working on an enhanced mobile experience that will be even better than what we have now.

[el kaka22]

If RHavar is saying a crash website is looking good that is more amazing feedback than any other you can get. I mean dude is the front runner of crash websites and he has been around crash websites for years now after that as well and that means dude is actually liking your website and what he sees means a lot. I am pretty sure everyone around here would give your website a shot if they are on the fence about it because they saw him liking it.

As long as you do a clean and no shady business then you can actually become a decent website without any issues, you have everything set perfectly all you need to do now is a bit marketing like maybe signature campaign and after that you can just sit back relax and make your money, don't scam players and you are a great profitable business for 5+ years easily.

[veleten]

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Honestly I don't see a problem since any user on that player list is playing with real BTC and on par with other players. So I am not too sure what changes, for example, we've had another player yesterday that went for the same strategy and wagered quite a lot for 6+ hours.

Moreover - it is up to bankroll investors to take advantage of these high-rolling jackpot hunters. Since the investors don't take on any jackpot risk, jackpot hunters are good for them since they bet a lot

I think as more users join the game it will all balance out. That being said I'll use the opportunity to invite everyone again to try Rocketpot

there is no problem if any user on that list is a random user that is trying the site out and is not connected to admins
the problem I see that if you are using in house bots to run along with the real players , it diminishes their , real players , chances to win jackpot
while it should not be a problem with a 100% publicly funded bankroll , this could be if you funding the bankroll 90-95%
which probably is the case , since I don't believe that a new site could attract so much money in such a short period of time
did I get my point clear?

[TheRocketman]

-snip-

Honestly I don't see a problem since any user on that player list is playing with real BTC and on par with other players. So I am not too sure what changes, for example, we've had another player yesterday that went for the same strategy and wagered quite a lot for 6+ hours.

Moreover - it is up to bankroll investors to take advantage of these high-rolling jackpot hunters. Since the investors don't take on any jackpot risk, jackpot hunters are good for them since they bet a lot

I think as more users join the game it will all balance out. That being said I'll use the opportunity to invite everyone again to try Rocketpot

there is no problem if any user on that list is a random user that is trying the site out and is not connected to admins
the problem I see that if you are using in house bots to run along with the real players , it diminishes their , real players , chances to win jackpot
while it should not be a problem with a 100% publicly funded bankroll , this could be if you funding the bankroll 90-95%
which probably is the case , since I don't believe that a new site could attract so much money in such a short period of time
did I get my point clear?

Sure but there have already been random users who tried adopting the jackpot hunt strategy (some have been more successful than others).

The jackpots are there to make the game more entertaining for the players - it is not our intent to design a feature and then make it inaccessible to the users

We seeded the jackpots with quite a high amount specifically so that potential users feel more compelled to try it out - the game has a few players now so the chances to win are quite high! Also, no matter how big a high-roller's bet is, his chance to spin the wheel will always be capped at 90%

Plus, as said before, the investors benefit a lot from this type of users.

I hope the above clarifies it.

[beerlover]

It depends on the developer really. There are some developers who knows how to make a mobile app look great so having one would mean a lot and you can use it but at the same time having a gambling app would be way too risky and may not get a greenlight.

However, there are developers out there who can make the mobile browser look of a website totally different from the PC browser look and you can have a totally new one on your phone browser, not even similar looking, totally brand new when you open it from your mobile. So even tho optimizing on an app sounds better its both riskier and you can find a web browser designer a lot easier as well and can get it done much more quickly. So I would say improving the mobile look of it is top priority over having an app.

[Bitinity]

Are you going to develop mobile app later on? There are many players that will utilise that mobile app because they can play practically anywhere at anytime, whenever they have extra time, during break or while traveling. I think you should also consider this even if you said it is already optimised for most mobile browsers.

In my opinion mobile app is not too necessary that as long the gambling sites can be played use mobile phone i think that's good and they says they were concern about this and the site fully optimised for almost all the most popular mobile browsers however sorry to asking but i could not find the terms for requirements about minimum amount to withdraw or deposit

I think using a mobile app might be more optimal than using mobile browsers. The experience when playing on mobile browsers I always get lagging in the game. Crash game is a risky game when you are late to press crashes when playing manually. But however, playing on a mobile browser depends on how high the specifications of your device.

Once you realized that playing on mobile browser is lagging then dont even continue to play. If you keep playing while it is lagging and something happens unexpectedly so it is obviously your own fault. Mobile application does not give you guarantee of better experience compared to mobile browser, at least there is no trusted site provides app for their gambling services. Mobile version is more than enough, and one more thing that high specs of your phone does not guarantee better experience too because you need good internet connection as well. 

[bsky]

Hello,

I just registered yesterday on this site cause i calculated it to be EV+ with the jackpot.
I played 2mbtc everyround but it was just for the jackpot and let it play automatically all night. Which gave me 40% of chance to win in case of jackpot.

I just woke up and i saw i won the jackpot (1268 mBTC).
https://rocketpot.io/play/user/Bsky

I already withdrew 0.35BTC successfully but the hot wallet is empty now i am waiting for it to be refueled.
I m going to work i still have 1.01 BTC on the account i ll withdraw 90% of it and continue to play with the rest i guess.
Must say the site look very nice and legit. 

Great Job