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September 02, 2019, 04:17:11 AM
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Shower thought. What if Craig Wright is something like a reality TV persona made to troll the Bitcoin community, divide it, and to easily "conquer".

It was successful in its coercion of Gavin Andresen, Roger Ver, and a few other Bitcoiners.


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September 02, 2019, 07:39:52 AM
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Craig Wright is fking insane. He has long been creating hype in the vastness of the crypto community and I am glad that this will stop. Another fraudster identified and I hope we will not hear him again
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It should have happened a long time ago. Craig Wright is a mad and fraud and it has no place for him in the crypto market
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September 02, 2019, 03:51:19 PM
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Craig Wright is fking insane. He has long been creating hype in the vastness of the crypto community and I am glad that this will stop. Another fraudster identified and I hope we will not hear him again


The catch with Craig Wright and his claim to be Satoshi is now moot. After the Klieman trial and the rest, he has been proven a fraud and stole Dave Klieman's works, who

I think was likely Satoshi. Thus, even if he does get 'access' to some/part or whatever of the so-called Tulip Fund on 1/1/2020, no one will believe he was Satoshi.

At worst folks with think he was part of the Satoshi Group which was likely Hal Finney and Dave Klieman and I guess this idiot Craig Wright. So again, even at worst

case scenario, folks will know him still as Fake Satoshi and profiting off the efforts of a partner that likely was Satoshi and ripping him off with fake documents too boot.

(see court case)

Also, if 1/2 goes to the Klieman estate as per the ruling and taxes paid and Craig Wright claims he will 'dump' all Bitcoin. You have taxes off of that dump as well, plus

penalties and fees for likely tax avoidance by the Australian Authorities on top of what he would owe them.

Well, Bitcoin Will survive, again, even if the above 1 out of 1,000 set of circumstances is true.

He is a fraud, even if he was, in the past, part of the Satoshi Group and outlived the others and there is a Tulip Fund due on 1/1/2020.

He has shown his true colors that of a megalomaniac fraudster who ripped off the credit from a dead man, according to the court case.

So access to Tulip Fund or not he is still an untrustworthy ass!

Brad


 
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September 02, 2019, 10:59:51 PM
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Craig Wright is fking insane. He has long been creating hype in the vastness of the crypto community and I am glad that this will stop. Another fraudster identified and I hope we will not hear him again


The catch with Craig Wright and his claim to be Satoshi is now moot. After the Klieman trial and the rest, he has been proven a fraud and stole Dave Klieman's works, who

I think was likely Satoshi. Thus, even if he does get 'access' to some/part or whatever of the so-called Tulip Fund on 1/1/2020, no one will believe he was Satoshi.

At worst folks with think he was part of the Satoshi Group which was likely Hal Finney and Dave Klieman and I guess this idiot Craig Wright. So again, even at worst

case scenario, folks will know him still as Fake Satoshi and profiting off the efforts of a partner that likely was Satoshi and ripping him off with fake documents too boot.

(see court case)

Also, if 1/2 goes to the Klieman estate as per the ruling and taxes paid and Craig Wright claims he will 'dump' all Bitcoin. You have taxes off of that dump as well, plus

penalties and fees for likely tax avoidance by the Australian Authorities on top of what he would owe them.

Well, Bitcoin Will survive, again, even if the above 1 out of 1,000 set of circumstances is true.

He is a fraud, even if he was, in the past, part of the Satoshi Group and outlived the others and there is a Tulip Fund due on 1/1/2020.

He has shown his true colors that of a megalomaniac fraudster who ripped off the credit from a dead man, according to the court case.

So access to Tulip Fund or not he is still an untrustworthy ass!

Brad



BSV bagholders are still hoping that something happens in 2020 when it comes to Craig's trust fund. The reason they want that to be true is because in case CSW was involved in the fund and got some coins out of it it would automatically kickstart more media attention for CSW and thus BSV. That may be the final exit scam for anyone that is still holding the thing, including CSW, unless his ego is big enough to go down with the ship, including loss of all the money destroyed in trying to keep the hashrate going and so on. Not to mention every exchange that had problems giving coins back to creditors.

Another way that BSV could get more traction is in the unlikely even that segwit got exploited somehow in the future. Then people would (by mistake) think that BSV "is Bitcoin", they would buy it, then they would lose it as order is restored in legacy Bitcoin.
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September 02, 2019, 11:08:03 PM
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When I posted agains this wright, some of Craig's followers were protesting him badly. Now, the world knows he was a fraud from the beginning and he deserves more dishonor from the court. Still, I don't know who are they supporting the Bitcoin SV! Why this coin's rank still too high? After Craig Wright, Roger Ver is the next guy who is spreading propaganda right now.

 
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Still, I don't know who are they supporting the Bitcoin SV! Why this coin's rank still too high? After Craig Wright, Roger Ver is the next guy who is spreading propaganda right now.

It has a relatively high rank because most people who sold their fork coins have sold into the buy orders of nChain and Calvin.

They control such a large part of the coins in circulation that they at current levels are comfortable supporting it financially. If you also take into consideration that barely any newly minted coins are being sold, because they account for the majority of BSV's hashrate, the price isn't going to experience much external selling pressure. What will happen is that they end up holding millions of BSV coins but no one to sell to.  Cheesy

In that regard, I wouldn't pay attention to their coin rank. What matters is that the majority of the crypto ecosystem rejects their practices. Smiley

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Still, I don't know who are they supporting the Bitcoin SV! Why this coin's rank still too high? After Craig Wright, Roger Ver is the next guy who is spreading propaganda right now.

It has a relatively high rank because most people who sold their fork coins have sold into the buy orders of nChain and Calvin.

They control such a large part of the coins in circulation that they at current levels are comfortable supporting it financially. If you also take into consideration that barely any newly minted coins are being sold, because they account for the majority of BSV's hashrate, the price isn't going to experience much external selling pressure. What will happen is that they end up holding millions of BSV coins but no one to sell to.  Cheesy

In that regard, I wouldn't pay attention to their coin rank. What matters is that the majority of the crypto ecosystem rejects their practices. Smiley

Those 'supporters' will later on be tired of supporting an empty platform.
BSV is valuable in the market right now but give a couple of years and we will see their true colour.
There is no strong use case in the market nor solid foundation for this altcoin, just mere propaganda from a fraudulent owner.

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September 03, 2019, 02:55:57 AM
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Still, I don't know who are they supporting the Bitcoin SV! Why this coin's rank still too high?

it is because the "ranking" system is a broken one that is ranking different altcoins based on a flawed concept called "market capitalization". so when a shitcoin forks out of bitcoin, it automatically summons 18 million of supply and with at least $100 value it would be $1.8 billion market cap out of thin air!
now since majority of users don't even touch these shitcoins and worse they don't touch the shitcoin forked out of another shitcoin forked out of bitcoin (ie. BSV) that means their price isn't going to tank that easily so they stay up.

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September 03, 2019, 03:05:22 AM
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Another way that BSV could get more traction is in the unlikely even that segwit got exploited somehow in the future. Then people would (by mistake) think that BSV "is Bitcoin", they would buy it, then they would lose it as order is restored in legacy Bitcoin.

pretty much impossible at this point since the vast majority of the network is now enforcing segwit as a consensus rule. the time for segwit to be exploited was years ago, in 2017. if miners tried to steal the segwit outputs now, hardly anyone on the network would view their chain as valid. it would effectively be a hard fork and would be completely ignored.

but let's say hypothetically that this attack occurs. why would that make people think BSV is bitcoin?

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Still, I don't know who are they supporting the Bitcoin SV! Why this coin's rank still too high? After Craig Wright, Roger Ver is the next guy who is spreading propaganda right now.

It has a relatively high rank because most people who sold their fork coins have sold into the buy orders of nChain and Calvin.

They control such a large part of the coins in circulation that they at current levels are comfortable supporting it financially. If you also take into consideration that barely any newly minted coins are being sold, because they account for the majority of BSV's hashrate, the price isn't going to experience much external selling pressure. What will happen is that they end up holding millions of BSV coins but no one to sell to.  Cheesy

In that regard, I wouldn't pay attention to their coin rank. What matters is that the majority of the crypto ecosystem rejects their practices. Smiley

Those 'supporters' will later on be tired of supporting an empty platform.
BSV is valuable in the market right now but give a couple of years and we will see their true colour.
There is no strong use case in the market nor solid foundation for this altcoin, just mere propaganda from a fraudulent owner.


Plus miners of Bitcoin Cash SV will switch to Bitcoin. Bitcoin's model simply keeps the miners happy and fed. Big blocks,/low fees/next halving in Bitcoin Cash, and Bitcoin Cash SV will show it.

"Miner death spiral"? Watch Bitcoin Cash and its fork in the next 8 years.


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Shower thought. What if Craig Wright is something like a reality TV persona made to troll the Bitcoin community, divide it, and to easily "conquer".

It was successful in its coercion of Gavin Andresen, Roger Ver, and a few other Bitcoiners.
What if? Well. That is not possible again because many people already know who he is and he has now been officially known as scammer, so for him to get this name off will take a very long time, and probably not even in this generation again which he would have even been dead before the story could be forgotten.

Craig was just doing all those things to actually create awareness for himself because he could not even back his point up other than one domain that he used, in fact the Pakistan guy’s story was even still quite believable than that of Craig's own, and I think that he would have even been quiet by now and begging so that he does not pay that amount of money that he was asked to pay in the court which could really wreck him a lot.
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HE is happy as long as people are mentioning his name.  You guys are playing right into his hand and he is becoming more famous and will get more people to buy bitcoin SV.  This guy can come across as very intelligent buy I do think he is an egomaniac. 
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"Miner death spiral"? Watch Bitcoin Cash and its fork in the next 8 years.

They already 'sorted' that out by having 144 block (1 day) difficulty adjustments instead of the 2016 block (14 day) difficulty adjustment that Bitcoin has. IIRC, there have been various tweaks made to change how the difficulty gets adjusted, but it seems that they have settled with the 144 block adjustment period. If they have to, they will fork it to have even faster difficulty adjustments.

In that regard, they made sure it's no longer Bitcoin'ish, so it isn't following the white paper that mr Ver keeps referring to. Naughty scammer!

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"Miner death spiral"? Watch Bitcoin Cash and its fork in the next 8 years.

They already 'sorted' that out by having 144 block (1 day) difficulty adjustments instead of the 2016 block (14 day) difficulty adjustment that Bitcoin has. IIRC, there have been various tweaks made to change how the difficulty gets adjusted, but it seems that they have settled with the 144 block adjustment period. If they have to, they will fork it to have even faster difficulty adjustments.

In that regard, they made sure it's no longer Bitcoin'ish, so it isn't following the white paper that mr Ver keeps referring to. Naughty scammer!


But it will not save them from a falling hash rate. The SHA256 coin keeps miners well fed and profitable is Nitcoin. Bitmaincoin and Craigcoin miners are earning less than Bitcoin miners, and will always be because Bitcoin's model is far better. Bitcoin Cash knows it, and wants to follow it.

Their maximum block size is 32mb, but their biggest mining pools limit block size to 2mb. Haha.

Shower thought. What if Craig Wright is something like a reality TV persona made to troll the Bitcoin community, divide it, and to easily "conquer".

It was successful in its coercion of Gavin Andresen, Roger Ver, and a few other Bitcoiners.
What if? Well. That is not possible again because many people already know who he is and he has now been officially known as scammer, so for him to get this name off will take a very long time, and probably not even in this generation again which he would have even been dead before the story could be forgotten.

Craig was just doing all those things to actually create awareness for himself because he could not even back his point up other than one domain that he used, in fact the Pakistan guy’s story was even still quite believable than that of Craig's own, and I think that he would have even been quiet by now and begging so that he does not pay that amount of money that he was asked to pay in the court which could really wreck him a lot.


Yes, what if Craig Wright is a made-up character played by a con artist with another name?


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September 04, 2019, 08:28:49 AM
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It was obvious from the start. Did anyone think otherwise?
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It was obvious from the start. Did anyone think otherwise?

Yes, the Bitcoin Cash SV community. Or maybe they actually knew from the fraud from the start, but wanted to pump BSV, and trick newbies into buying them. Cool


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Craig is not from NZ so he is not the real Fatoshi  Kiss
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It should have happened a long time ago. Craig Wright is a mad and fraud and it has no place for him in the crypto market

well, he is not the only crazy, he have his team of freaks who seems to follow him wherever he goes:

Calvin Ayre Falsely Claims Court Ruled Craig Wright Invented Bitcoin

the most interesting in this case is see how he will pay, where will he get so many bitcoins to pay? this will be a good story to follow and the news channels are surely making money from it

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