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September 10, 2019, 09:06:16 AM
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This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/


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September 10, 2019, 09:11:32 AM
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Gambling is a worldwide industry, lots of people enjoy gambling. I disagree, I don’t see it as any kind of taboo or terrible thing. People lose money gambling, sure. People win lots too, I don’t feel sorry for people who become addicted to gambling, these kind of people are weak. You are the master of your own life.

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September 10, 2019, 09:26:15 AM
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I don't agree, but maybe that's because I'm not religious.
Personally, I don't think that it's morally wrong to gamble, just because it's baked into our society and gambling in and of itself isn't inherently bad.

It's something that's done for fun and all around the world in different shapes and forms, most people can enjoy it without getting themselves into trouble.
Sure, you could make the argument that you're getting money (if you win), which you haven't worked for, but there are so many ways that people get something without having put in any effort.
That doesn't mean it's wrong...

I'm completely against using religion as a way to tell people what they can or cannot do.

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September 10, 2019, 09:36:28 AM
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If you are looking at it from a religious point of view, sure, it is morally wrong and you are not allowed to gamble.
The gambling industry is huge and the amount of taxes that it brings in can be used to improve any infrastructure needed. I don't see why a government would be against gambling and spending the taxes that stem from it.

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September 10, 2019, 09:38:34 AM
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I respect every religion and what they believe as long as it doesn't hurt others. I think it's still widely believed that the money which came from gambling has stains, at least for those people that are not open with innovation and can't accept the fact that we're emerging and the world is changing a lot and gambling is part of it.

Gambling is a big market and if they decide not to accept donations from casino's or any gambling institution it's their choice but at least they should commend their generosity of helping them.
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September 10, 2019, 09:44:30 AM
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Personally, I don't see gambling money as dirty. I guess the world as evolved already from this old traditional point of view. Unless you are very religious here, I'm sure everyone doesn't consider it tainted or could be the cause of you committing sins. Gambling today is a business, online or offline so many have sway around that traditional belief already.

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September 10, 2019, 09:53:03 AM
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If you see see from religious side then it is indeed dirty as I believe most religions does say that gambling as a sin. To be honest I can fully agree about any rules/opinion that says gambling is a sin or even a crime. I can fully see where is the wrong part of gambling as people do it with their own money, risking their own money, losing their own money which means it does not affect any other's life in general.
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September 10, 2019, 10:03:47 AM
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This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



This is absolutely old-fashioned.
Gambling was something illegal in the past and this is the reason why it is considered Dirty money.
Now the gambling industry has absolutely evolved and it is a healthy industry which makes a lot of people make a living from that.
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September 10, 2019, 10:22:58 AM
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no its not  . gambling only gains a negative reputation from the public so they think any related to it are also bad  but gambling is not actually like that  if you know how to use it properly  .

 it can give you benefits like enjoyment and profit   .  gambling money is dirty money only if the money used on gambling is came from robery and other crime acts but if it came from your own hardwork , then there is no problem with that  .
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September 10, 2019, 10:29:34 AM
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One of the reason why some people think that money came from gambling is a dirty money because you don't have to work hard for it where in other situation in earning money is you have to work for it that is why they think money came from gambling is a dirty money.

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September 10, 2019, 10:44:16 AM
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We just need to be realistic, gambling is not a dirty money as long as it's not illegal in your country.
People wants to have fun and gambling is just one of the ways to have fun, I am a gambler myself and I really have fun when I'm gambling,
Losing is part of the risk, but with proper control, we won't be losing an amount that we cannot afford to lose.

I think people just need to be educated about gambling for them to appreciate it.
Judging and closing our minds about gambling is a bad idea, the government already accepted gambling is a great source of taxes as they have differentiate between legal and illegal gambling.

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September 10, 2019, 10:45:31 AM
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The term 'dirty money' is usually reserved for money that has been earned or transferred illegally, such as through gang-activity, drug trafficking, extortion etc. Unless gambling is illegal in your country (and it is in some countries), then money earned or lost in gambling cannot be considered 'dirty money.'
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September 10, 2019, 10:57:24 AM
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Completely and utterly disagree. Firstly, money is money at the end of the day and majority of the world population don't care whether is clean or dirty. Money won or lost through gambling is money. Simple!

Our ancestors used to believe in all sorts of stuff which in no way means that the current generation and the future generations need to do the same. This is a free world people.

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September 10, 2019, 11:03:33 AM
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The only dirty money is the money coming from criminal activities like CP, drugs, terrorism etc.

Gambling is (mostly) legal worldwide so it is not dirty money. Maybe it is in SA but thanks god the rest of the world don't give a fuck about that religious bullshit.

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September 10, 2019, 11:05:46 AM
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The term 'dirty money' is usually reserved for money that has been earned or transferred illegally, such as through gang-activity, drug trafficking, extortion etc. Unless gambling is illegal in your country (and it is in some countries), then money earned or lost in gambling cannot be considered 'dirty money.'
Completely agree, gambling cannot be a dirty money if it's accepted in your country.
I know there are religion who prohibits their followers from gambling, maybe we will also consider that but then everyone has different judgement on gambling, if it's based on the definition by law, gambling should be considered illegal first to consider what we earn is a dirty money.

There are countries which ban gambling, especially from muslim countries as it's against in their religion, but in some countries where christians, and other religions are dominant in numbers, gambling is accepted I think.

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September 10, 2019, 11:14:19 AM
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You had mentioned Islam in the OP so I assumed that your a Muslim mate?

If does then everything you said is indeed because I have some Muslim friends as well and thy really consider gambling as bad area to profit and consider winning pot are Dirty money

And also you should have mentioned from what country you from because I am curious about the Secretary of education shunned that big amount for books things that for me is not fair because that is for education and not for foods .org medical health









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September 10, 2019, 11:56:48 AM
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And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money.

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?


That is also what my brother tells me whenever he wins in casinos or any other bet. What he usually does is that, he spends the money as soon as possible, either he will treat the family or purchase a want rather than a need.
Ever since I got that idea from him, whenever I gamble with my friends and win some cash enough to purchase something or treat anyone, I would quickly spend it as if I do not own the money.

I remember my grandfather telling me that the money you win in gambling is a bad omen, which should be spent as soon as possible. Whether or not their claims are true, I just follow them diligently.
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September 10, 2019, 12:19:32 PM
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This doesn't really make sense to me because isn't everything in life considered a gamble if you break it down.

If you hold US dollars you are gambling that they won't experience mass inflation and devaluation?

If you hold stocks your gambling that there won't be a huge market crash.

If you hold gold your gambling the price won't crash again.
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September 10, 2019, 12:27:10 PM
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This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



there is a similar thread about this topic. as I said in that thread it will be different with different people since they have different beliefs.
some will consider gambling money to be dirty and some will not and in my views gambling money is not dirty nor illegal.

here is the thread I was talking about.
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

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September 10, 2019, 12:28:14 PM
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This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



I can only speak for my views and will not include any religious views on my opinion, we should accept donation even if it's coming from gambling for the simple reason, it can help alleviate the needs and the sufferings of the people.

Imagine if they did not accept a donation to buy books when those books can help educate people, or decline donation to buy foods when it can help people to satisfy their hunger, we should think logically and with common sense, again this is my opinion.

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