Gambling Money is Dirty Money

[mich]

To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong

[aioc]

People treating gambling money as dirty has a high ethical and religious value and we should not blame them for not being practical, it's about values and being practical, you have to choose between the two, and since I'm not a very religious person, I prefer being practical.

[Darker45]

I've made this thread to gather your thoughts on these views which I experienced first hand within my richly multicultural and highly sectarian country. I've enjoyed reading all your reactions and ideas.

I have to point out though that [1.] I do not necessarily share this view; [2.] I am not a Muslim; [3.] I am a gambler, although small time and for fun. I gamble on both physical sports and esports. I play dice. I used to play roulette. I played a lot of card games including poker. I gamble on heads or tails when the teacher is out. I bet on the next right answer on a quiz. I bet on spider and cockfighting. I gamble in wakes. I bet on the digits printed on our fiat bills. I bet on lottery combinations. The list goes on; [4.] Money to me is neither clean nor dirty. Neither is it good nor evil. Although perhaps originally designed to be of proper use and for human convenience in trade, at most, it is a neutral tool that could possibly help or hinder, cure or hurt, or even give or take a life. [5.] Ideas, beliefs, cultures, traditions, etc. are constantly evolving. So is gambling, and perhaps how it is viewed by a society.

[michellee]

People treating gambling money as dirty has a high ethical and religious value and we should not blame them for not being practical, it's about values and being practical, you have to choose between the two, and since I'm not a very religious person, I prefer being practical.

Maybe it's because some people are using gambling to make money. Not because they don't know that gambling was prohibited in their religion, but maybe they use gambling as a way to get fun. Maybe someday, they will realize, and they will leave gambling forever.

Maybe we can treat gambling as it's way and not use gambling as a source income. People will still play gambling no matter it's prohibited in their religion, but there will always some people who can accept that gambling is a way of having fun and get entertain.

[Ararbermas]

Yes i agree that money from gambling is dirty but for me in my opinion it depends. wherein if it's illegal on our country then we can call it a dirty money. But if it's not ,probably it will be a clean money that we earned from it.  Because i believe not all money on gambling are dirty and it always depends if it's prohibited and illegal in our country.

[jakoylantern]

Yes i agree that money from gambling is dirty but for me in my opinion it depends. wherein if it's illegal on our country then we can call it a dirty money. But if it's not ,probably it will be a clean money that we earned from it.  Because i believe not all money on gambling are dirty and it always depends if it's prohibited and illegal in our country.

Yes, I agree with what you have said because it depends on the country if they prohibited gambling. Different states have different laws and jurisdiction so if gambling is legal to your country and the site or casino is has a permit to operate it's legitimate legal but if not its definitely illegal and vice versa.

[freedomgo]

Yes i agree that money from gambling is dirty but for me in my opinion it depends. wherein if it's illegal on our country then we can call it a dirty money. But if it's not ,probably it will be a clean money that we earned from it.  Because i believe not all money on gambling are dirty and it always depends if it's prohibited and illegal in our country.

For me, it doesn't matter when it's coming as long as I earn money from gambling, which until now I don't have the success in doing it yet.
Earning money in gambling is hard because most of us are losers, that's why some are just discouraging us that gambling is a dirty money so we will not play anymore.

The operators in gambling will always be a winner in the end and they are into a profitable industry, so if you will ask them if they are earning dirty money, they won't mind it because it's still the same money with the same value, as long as we are safe in what we are doing, lets just enjoy the money we earn, whether it's coming from gambling or other unusual method of earning money.

[witcher_sense]

The old-fashioned view will always be the same, gambling money is dirty money, nothing can be changed here. Parents or older relatives often do not believe that money can be earned online, you do not need to go to full-time work and sit in the office for days. Only hard physical work will bring you money, at least they think so. This is the difference between the views of the old and new generations. I do not argue that the older generation can teach you a lot, but not in the case of making money online. In this case, it is better to think in your own way, not to listen to other people's advice and also not to follow them.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

I can't resist if gambling is a something that can considered as a sin. Maybe that is why it is prohibited by government from a lot of countries. But i still play it. Sometime for me, gambling is when you play it and bet with money. But if play only for fun maybe like in web game like facebook game that allow us to play poker, i not think if that is gambling because not use our real money.

[rachman mahesa]

I can't resist if gambling is a something that can considered as a sin. Maybe that is why it is prohibited by government from a lot of countries. But i still play it. Sometime for me, gambling is when you play it and bet with money. But if play only for fun maybe like in web game like facebook game that allow us to play poker, i not think if that is gambling because not use our real money.

Facebook games like poker that you say can be categorized as Gambling. If the chips / balances in the game are traded, then that can be said to be gambling. Indeed gambling is prohibited a lot, but I personally also still play. This is my choice, and therefore I will not stop playing gambling. Although it is said gambling is dirty money.

[Theb]

That's what you get if you mix cultures, religions, and politics as well as media you will will basically get a lot of different opinions on one kind of matter depending on what kind of belief they grow up in. This is how like alcohol started bad for the United States but it ended up being legal when time passes, now they have marijuana to considere being legal in the whole nation not only the states. What I'm trying to say is as long as the people have an open mind and you don't let the beliefs you have grew up with cloud your judgement your first impressions would change for the better.

[vintages]

Not because of religion or anything related to it but I feel most people tend to frown at gambling because of the bad effect it brings.
Most time, just like in the case of gamers, many gamblers slope in addiction which in turn brings so many negative behaviour.
There have been cases of gamblers stealing or using important funds just to get the fund to gamble. Also, some gamblers, totally depend on gambling as a source of income without doing any other business which is not suppose to be so.
I love to read gambling stories online from people who are once addicted just to know what others are passing through.
If gamblers know when to stop and put themselves in check, people won't be classifying it as 'dirty money'.

[Indamuck]

I have been seeing a lot more gambling ads recently.  A lot on facebook when I was using their marketplace and a lot on my Amazon Fire Tablet.  Nearly every time I turn my tablet on the first page is a gambling ad for virtual slot machines or some other game.

[mitchr4]

I can't resist if gambling is a something that can considered as a sin. Maybe that is why it is prohibited by government from a lot of countries. But i still play it. Sometime for me, gambling is when you play it and bet with money. But if play only for fun maybe like in web game like facebook game that allow us to play poker, i not think if that is gambling because not use our real money.

Facebook games like poker that you say can be categorized as Gambling. If the chips / balances in the game are traded, then that can be said to be gambling. Indeed gambling is prohibited a lot, but I personally also still play. This is my choice, and therefore I will not stop playing gambling. Although it is said gambling is dirty money.

I have not heard that playing fun is prohibited but in my opinion, playing fun or using real money still classified make dirty money because they play gambling games. Whatever betting game is still considered a sin. Also, I'm not really sure if there are people who keep playing fun there must be a desire to use real money to bet with other people.

[milewilda]

To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong

Dirty money can be classified indirectly and as mentioned it do pertains with religion.It might not be a serious matter on most religion but other
do consider this as a sin so therefore any money that being generated or earned by means of gambling will be considered dirty
We have seen that there are people who do make a living with gambling and i agree on what you said that money that havent been obtained by means of
illegal aspect cant be considered dirty.

[jake zyrus]

Besides from Muslims since gambling is not allowed, I don't see it right to be called dirty money. When we say gambling to random people, most would think of it as a bad thing because of stereotype. But for me, as long as it isn't coming from illegal gambling, then it's fine. They gamble for fun, or with the purpose of doubling their money, and I don't see it as something bad as long as they don't oppress someone. Not all gamblers are bad. And not all gambling are illegal. It's just a matter of how people perceive gambling.

[Question123]

Depends on their beliefs because even it is dirty money it still money and we can buy needs because of money. I respect their decision about that but we have different person and that means different believe.  Maybe for others gambling is dirty money but for the others it is still a money because they use it for their everyday lives.  Im not a perfect person so I don't have rights for them of what they belief.

[peter0425]

To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong

But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries

[The Cryptovator]

There so many religion on the world and every religion have their own faith and rules. Personally I don't hate any religion even that's no mine. I believe so many religion believe gambling is a dirty way to earn money. Money can't be dirty but the earning way could be dirty. I respect them also who had not received money from gambling. Because everyone should respect at least his own religion. So I don't think we should make argue about that.

[South Park]

This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). ^[1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. ^[2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?

Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/

I can understand why people still hold those beliefs about gambling, as we know a person that is addicted to gambling can lose everything very quickly but they are a very small portion of all of those that gamble, and it could be argued that those that are addicted to gambling could have gotten addicted to something else and still lose their money even if gambling was forbidden, so while I respect those that have those views I do not have any problem with someone that gambles for fun.