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September 21, 2019, 01:22:06 AM
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Well, the words Dirty money is that money came from stolen and something you are committing crimes just for money or those illegal activities that you can earn money. If you had gambled with provably fair with your opponents or even the house edge without cheating the outcome on that is clean money and that is not dirty money. Indeed, the profit on gambling through honest way is not a dirty money.

but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.

As a Filipino, I don't think money from gambling is dirty, unless it is really illegal in your country. In our country, gambling is used widely to pass time, it is even used at nights when there is someone dead, we call that "lamay". It is a tradition in every "lamay" to gamble, either card games sometimes Bingo are being played, accompanied by coffee and biscuits until dawn.

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September 21, 2019, 01:27:20 AM
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Well, the words Dirty money is that money came from stolen and something you are committing crimes just for money or those illegal activities that you can earn money. If you had gambled with provably fair with your opponents or even the house edge without cheating the outcome on that is clean money and that is not dirty money. Indeed, the profit on gambling through honest way is not a dirty money.

but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.

That is already a dogma. The problem with these kinds of beliefs is that they are unchangeable, they are already set in stone. In the real world, however, it is not like that. Times are changing, so are systems, fads, cultures, traditions, perspectives, etc. Gambling could have been perceived centuries ago as dirty. Today, it is not like that anymore. Even religious personalities are playing bingo, slot machines, and lotteries. I mean faith should be dynamic also.
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September 21, 2019, 04:35:46 AM
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Well, the words Dirty money is that money came from stolen and something you are committing crimes just for money or those illegal activities that you can earn money. If you had gambled with provably fair with your opponents or even the house edge without cheating the outcome on that is clean money and that is not dirty money. Indeed, the profit on gambling through honest way is not a dirty money.

but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.

You are right. But if we don't tell where the money is, I think they will not say anything, and we could still give the money to them. I think that will be a solution if one person still wants to donate the money from gambling to them. They will not know about the truth, and we could try to give some money to help them. But that will depend on ourselves on this because some of us will not okay to do that, and besides that, that is the money which comes from gambling.

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September 21, 2019, 04:47:45 AM
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but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.

That is already a dogma. The problem with these kinds of beliefs is that they are unchangeable, they are already set in stone. In the real world, however, it is not like that. Times are changing, so are systems, fads, cultures, traditions, perspectives, etc. Gambling could have been perceived centuries ago as dirty. Today, it is not like that anymore. Even religious personalities are playing bingo, slot machines, and lotteries. I mean faith should be dynamic also.

Indeed it has become a dogma in every religion, where if it is said to be haram it will still be haram, changing times will not change that dogma. And your statement about faith that there is no dynamic faith, if people feel that their faith is dynamic means that they actually don't have faith. Maybe you should study philosophy and understand meaning of faith more deeply.

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September 21, 2019, 05:07:38 PM
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Like my religion will say, you cannot serve God and mammon. If you are for gambling, then stay for gambling and if your religion is against it, then flee from it. There is no point living a double standard life and living in confusion.

If the reason to play is for money, there are other ways to make money, mustn’t be on gambling alone. I dislike it when people live a confused life. If my culture or belief was against gambling, I would not have any reason to be a part of it. The above poster has explained better on this, that will be like a stain on your personality, so you are advised to quit and focus on your religion.
I don't think there is anyone on earth that will be glad to disobey what their religion is against.  Let's understand that most people do this for money and we can't change that.  You can call it living a two faced life or having double standards and I will say I do not really care what anyone thinks.  

I am not gambling for money, I do it for entertainment even though it is against my belief but I cannot trade my joy for a religious belief that I do not know so much about.  I hope I don't get bashed for this post but this is only my candid opinion. I have some friends that gamble because they are in need and gambling happens to be a sure way to make money, so you will advise them to stay off? Because of personality?  Who cares about personality anyway?  All that matters is the money and nothing else.

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September 21, 2019, 09:20:10 PM
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but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.

That is already a dogma. The problem with these kinds of beliefs is that they are unchangeable, they are already set in stone. In the real world, however, it is not like that. Times are changing, so are systems, fads, cultures, traditions, perspectives, etc. Gambling could have been perceived centuries ago as dirty. Today, it is not like that anymore. Even religious personalities are playing bingo, slot machines, and lotteries. I mean faith should be dynamic also.

Indeed it has become a dogma in every religion, where if it is said to be haram it will still be haram, changing times will not change that dogma. And your statement about faith that there is no dynamic faith, if people feel that their faith is dynamic means that they actually don't have faith. Maybe you should study philosophy and understand meaning of faith more deeply.
Yes different people have different faith related to gambling. They consider it fair and some people consider it as haram. It’s all about religion some does call source of earning and some totally different. People should make clear from their elders of religion before gambling as Faith is recognitions of a nation so better have clear idea about gambling but for me we don’t get in gambling for free we work and earn.
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September 21, 2019, 10:17:40 PM
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I don't think there is anyone on earth that will be glad to disobey what their religion is against.  Let's understand that most people do this for money and we can't change that.  You can call it living a two faced life or having double standards and I will say I do not really care what anyone thinks.  

I am not gambling for money, I do it for entertainment even though it is against my belief but I cannot trade my joy for a religious belief that I do not know so much about.  I hope I don't get bashed for this post but this is only my candid opinion. I have some friends that gamble because they are in need and gambling happens to be a sure way to make money, so you will advise them to stay off? Because of personality?  Who cares about personality anyway?  All that matters is the money and nothing else.

I think that if a person adheres to the rules of his religion, then he will not play gambling. The rest can gamble either for fun or for making money. Because it is very difficult to combine earnings and entertainment.

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September 21, 2019, 10:46:59 PM
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I think that if a person adheres to the rules of his religion, then he will not play gambling. The rest can gamble either for fun or for making money. Because it is very difficult to combine earnings and entertainment.
It totally depends on the religion and their belief. There are other ways to entertain ourselves if we are just treating gambling for fun but because there's money to risk it became exciting. In my view, money that earned from gambling is not different in other source to earn, its just that how you accumulate it is more on luck since you have no assurance if you'll going to grow your money or not.

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September 22, 2019, 05:10:23 AM
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I think that if a person adheres to the rules of his religion, then he will not play gambling. The rest can gamble either for fun or for making money. Because it is very difficult to combine earnings and entertainment.
It totally depends on the religion and their belief. There are other ways to entertain ourselves if we are just treating gambling for fun but because there's money to risk it became exciting. In my view, money that earned from gambling is not different in other source to earn, its just that how you accumulate it is more on luck since you have no assurance if you'll going to grow your money or not.

Many people do not care about the religion and only care about what they think is right.
If gambling is not allowed in anyone's religion, then the profit from it will also be wrong and illegal.

Many people think that you should work to get the money and anything which you get from speculation is not the right form of income.

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September 22, 2019, 05:55:37 AM
Last edit: September 22, 2019, 06:11:05 AM by ReiMomo
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I think that if a person adheres to the rules of his religion, then he will not play gambling. The rest can gamble either for fun or for making money. Because it is very difficult to combine earnings and entertainment.
It totally depends on the religion and their belief. There are other ways to entertain ourselves if we are just treating gambling for fun but because there's money to risk it became exciting. In my view, money that earned from gambling is not different in other source to earn, its just that how you accumulate it is more on luck since you have no assurance if you'll going to grow your money or not.
At this era, we can gamble even we are at home, using online crypto gambling websites. There are many gambling sites out there that you can visit if you want without knowing your family even it is against your religious belief. I did not consider that the money we had earned on gambling is dirty money. Yet, it is still considered as a source of income, because that is not a crime.

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I don't understand the distinction between good and bad money. Let's assume that my wallet has 10 notes worth a total of $1,000 and I can't know which ones were used in casinos or illegal cases because I got paid with these notes. When I spend them, other bills will come to me and I won't even think about where they were used before me.

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September 22, 2019, 05:51:05 PM
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If you want to be religious about gambling, you will not go near gambling at all, because as Islam sees is as a taboo, Christianity doesn't support it scripturally. Well, I don't have a judgement for gamblers because many people see it as one means of living. And whatever you believe in, goes a long way in affecting your life and destiny. That's why a platform is created to discuss religious issue. If you can gamble, go ahead. Then if you can't, leave it.
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Just get yourself away from the people who sees everything we do in religious manner,it was created for our betterment but if its against our desire then we may ignore them at few things when it is not going to affect anyone in this world.
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September 22, 2019, 06:38:08 PM
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I get this a lot especially when I'm gambling my money and my mom found out what I did to my money. I don't know why they are calling it. Did I step on somebody? Did I kill somebody to get this? Did I rob something? No, gambling money is not dirty money for me since there is no illegal way of earning it. Unless if gambling is illegal in your country, then that's dirty money. You didn't even reproduce a single bill for it. So why is that a dirty money?




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September 22, 2019, 06:53:09 PM
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Just get yourself away from the people who sees everything we do in religious manner,it was created for our betterment but if its against our desire then we may ignore them at few things when it is not going to affect anyone in this world.

Whoo come on dude, keep the religious things away from games or anywhere bro. We are on 21st century In this era we are still giving attention such discussion means seriously feeling bad bro.
Some may think that money may have some problem in gambling field but we should see like that
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I get this a lot especially when I'm gambling my money and my mom found out what I did to my money. I don't know why they are calling it. Did I step on somebody? Did I kill somebody to get this? Did I rob something? No, gambling money is not dirty money for me since there is no illegal way of earning it. Unless if gambling is illegal in your country, then that's dirty money. You didn't even reproduce a single bill for it. So why is that a dirty money?

It's not dirty if you think for your particular case. But think as a whole. I'm not saying it's dirty, I'm just saying why the stigma is there. You win because there exists a casino. The casino exists because it is making profits which means someone is losing. So, you are practically winning someone else's money. Same way someone else is winning yours. All because of bad and good "luck" Wink and since it's addicting, it grows and not stops. Hence the stigma.

The stigma that is hard to remove from others because we already grow up with that bad notion. However, if you look at it, casinos that have legal gambling licenses, do you still consider winning from the legal casino to be a dirty money? Of course not. So it is only a matter of perception of others on how to look things in gambling. If you are not doing any harm to anybody and you are gambling and you are getting money out of it. I don't think your winnings should be labeled as dirty money.
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I think that if a person adheres to the rules of his religion, then he will not play gambling. The rest can gamble either for fun or for making money. Because it is very difficult to combine earnings and entertainment.

You have to pick between the three if you are a very religious guy I don't think you are going to gamble at all even if a friend invited you in the spirit of fun, if you are gambling for profit, I don't think you will be entertained at all at the thought of losing, and if you are going just to get entertain you will not set up a strategy or method  to win, or it will just defeat the purpose of having fun.

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I don't understand the distinction between good and bad money. Let's assume that my wallet has 10 notes worth a total of $1,000 and I can't know which ones were used in casinos or illegal cases because I got paid with these notes. When I spend them, other bills will come to me and I won't even think about where they were used before me.

People values on the source and how they arrive in their hands if you are a religious person, people of religious nature has a basis on where they are going to receive their money but in these modern civilizations it's really hard to track the source of money, it is changing hands in a matter of hours, if you are a bad person and you want to donate money but the organization don't want it because it's coming from you, he can ask other people to do that for you and they will not know it.

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September 23, 2019, 02:52:50 AM
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I don't understand the distinction between good and bad money. Let's assume that my wallet has 10 notes worth a total of $1,000 and I can't know which ones were used in casinos or illegal cases because I got paid with these notes. When I spend them, other bills will come to me and I won't even think about where they were used before me.

I think the distinction will be about from where the money comes. When money comes from gambling, some people will not think that it is good money. And that is what every religion says, and people can not use bad money for donation because that will reduces the good thing that we will get in our life. But that will depend on each person on how they judge the money comes from, and not all people will judge with hard.

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but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.

That is already a dogma. The problem with these kinds of beliefs is that they are unchangeable, they are already set in stone. In the real world, however, it is not like that. Times are changing, so are systems, fads, cultures, traditions, perspectives, etc. Gambling could have been perceived centuries ago as dirty. Today, it is not like that anymore. Even religious personalities are playing bingo, slot machines, and lotteries. I mean faith should be dynamic also.

Indeed it has become a dogma in every religion, where if it is said to be haram it will still be haram, changing times will not change that dogma. And your statement about faith that there is no dynamic faith, if people feel that their faith is dynamic means that they actually don't have faith. Maybe you should study philosophy and understand meaning of faith more deeply.

This is how every faith looks at gambling,they consider that you are taking other people’s money by illegal means because you are not working hard to earn that money.

They consider that every person should work hard to earn their living but many other people who gamble are not happy with that form of life and consider it some sort of modern slavery.

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