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October 03, 2019, 12:52:02 AM
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those who have religion will say that it is dirty money. Well, this response has been around a long time ago. but, many people have hobbies like that and ignore them. even in my place, when you are caught playing gambling, you will be violated by the law. but, there are still many who disagree with it, many of them say that gambling is not a dirty money. I can only draw the conclusion that many people have different opinions about this, depending on their respective beliefs.
Maybe with that, people can learn to respect each others. I mean, actually people still can get friendship although have different perspective. But, as long we not interfere other people's business especially about beliefs, i think they wouldn't disturb us about what they believe.
I also think that when people are religious or fear God, they will stay away from things called gambling and say it's haram or hot money.  so indeed we cannot forbid everyone's desire not to gamble.  but we can live in harmony and not make them enemies.  I was a tough gambler at that time, gambling money was a good thing for me.  but when I'm close to religion or a catalyst for repentance I don't like it anymore.  but I was there at that time.
Then let me congratulate you from being a “Ex Gambler” as we already knew how the desire for this game is irresistible and many has tried but fails to leave the table for life

I admire your story as religion does not changed you but your desire to believe what is true who does

Rules wasn’t that enough to prevent people from doing such but at least it makes peopl hav a second though a bout matters



For me even if I am A Gambler sometimes yet I stand that Gambling money is Dirty by all means and in time I want to be like to do what SIHIN does ,leaves gambling and stay away for life
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October 03, 2019, 02:36:12 AM
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Well it actually depends on the culture you grew up with, but there are some who consider on not following the norms and are modern. I for instance am a person of culture and my parents also think the same way as of your culture in which gambling money is dirty money but I think if it’s used for buying food on the table then it is fine though.
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October 03, 2019, 03:46:31 AM
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The idea of gambling as a negative is when its considered a society negative, creating no positive to it like most industry and maybe even extracting money from an area to outside interests rather any idea of reinvestment.
  It doesnt have to be true but government lotterys typically carry some idea of passing some of the profits onto local projects.
Ofcourse other interests are welcome in gambling because this only turns bad if you live in it.but if you considered this as enjoyable and not for profiteering then that interest won’t bring Dirty to the money got from betting,there’s a lose and wins but what’s important is the fun.

Forget the needs to fed family from gambling because there are lots of field to earn in right manner than this

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October 03, 2019, 06:38:59 AM
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If all gambling players really think that way there should be no offense about "dirty money" embedded in them. gambling makes our psychology believe that we will always win, even though many consequences are obtained if we are not ready and without preparation. Gambling needs money, there are gamblers who when they run out of money as capital they choose to borrow from other people, banks or others. in my opinion, this is a very wrong thing. when borrowing money and what happens is that it can't return it, this is where bad things start as a gambler.

Yes, that will exist for people who don't play gamblers because they will think that the money from gambling is not good money and they should avoid it. But they don't have to force every people or gambler to agree with them because the gamblers will not think about the "clean money" or "dirty money." They will only think that they want to play gambling, and I have money. I can spend all the money or make a limit the money even they know about "clean and dirty money."

I never suggest to my friends to borrow money from other people because I always tell them that they will not know if they can repay the money or not. I always suggest them to use the money they can afford to play gambling and stop while you can.
You are a good person if you advise your friends not to borrow money from others just for gambling capital. In this world many people do not think long about the consequences of a decision. however, there are always people who are wise in making decisions.
 The problem is that we are not certain about winning, we can win and lose as both have equal chances. Right now I think it is not good to take money just for gambling as you don’t even know what is going to happen. Better work by yourself collect money and then invest your money in gambling it could be more profitable and safe.
make gambling as entertainment do not make the main source of income. like you said gambling has the same win / lose chance. looking for a main job that provides daily / monthly income then investing it is far better for financially.

 
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October 03, 2019, 07:07:49 PM
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It's funny that many people think that gambling money is dirty but everyone is happy to receive money without asking where it came from. Lottery prizes are basically gambling money that everyone is happy to accept. Selecting a set of numbers and buying a ticket in the hope of winning, is the equivalent of wagering on the Roulette wheel.

People think so primarily because in order for one person to win at roulette, another person has to lose their money. Also, a lot of people suffering from ludomania, and lose the last money in the casino and the administration can not prevent them.
Also, casinos used to be controlled by criminal gangs who laundered their criminal money there. Probably the concept of "dirty money" went from that time.
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October 04, 2019, 12:22:48 AM
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It's funny that many people think that gambling money is dirty but everyone is happy to receive money without asking where it came from. Lottery prizes are basically gambling money that everyone is happy to accept. Selecting a set of numbers and buying a ticket in the hope of winning, is the equivalent of wagering on the Roulette wheel.

People think so primarily because in order for one person to win at roulette, another person has to lose their money. Also, a lot of people suffering from ludomania, and lose the last money in the casino and the administration can not prevent them.
Also, casinos used to be controlled by criminal gangs who laundered their criminal money there. Probably the concept of "dirty money" went from that time.
When we talk about the dirty money, here we discussed about the laundered money out of criminal activities. When we take into calculation on this, it'll be very less compared to the corruption money which is truly the dirty money. Because it is people's money getting accumulated with a single person. So, if we think about dirty money and play, it is quite hard to spend on gambling, because every money in one way or other has little dirt.

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October 04, 2019, 12:27:09 AM
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make gambling as entertainment do not make the main source of income. like you said gambling has the same win / lose chance. looking for a main job that provides daily / monthly income then investing it is far better for financially.

Making gambling as entertainment will not be difficult as long as you know how much money you use to gamble. But if you lose control of yourself, then gambling will not be as entertaining to you because that will make you think to recover the money you are losing. Searching for another job will provide you monthly income, so you don't have to bother if you lose in gambling. But that will be difficult if the money from your job is used for gambling.

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October 04, 2019, 12:34:06 AM
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It's funny that many people think that gambling money is dirty but everyone is happy to receive money without asking where it came from. Lottery prizes are basically gambling money that everyone is happy to accept. Selecting a set of numbers and buying a ticket in the hope of winning, is the equivalent of wagering on the Roulette wheel.

People think so primarily because in order for one person to win at roulette, another person has to lose their money. Also, a lot of people suffering from ludomania, and lose the last money in the casino and the administration can not prevent them.
Also, casinos used to be controlled by criminal gangs who laundered their criminal money there. Probably the concept of "dirty money" went from that time.
The essences of gambling itself perhaps the dirty because how we treated the gaming is why made this bad,for me gambling supposedly for fun but most of players make this a vices ,place where they can be supreme and unbeatable while the truth is the House is benefiting from this attitude
Gambling money become dirty if we intend this to be,but if we don’t!i believe money from gambling will not be treated dirty as it was
But just enjoy playing and never do bad things in return
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October 04, 2019, 02:30:31 AM
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make gambling as entertainment do not make the main source of income. like you said gambling has the same win / lose chance. looking for a main job that provides daily / monthly income then investing it is far better for financially.

Making gambling as entertainment will not be difficult as long as you know how much money you use to gamble. But if you lose control of yourself, then gambling will not be as entertaining to you because that will make you think to recover the money you are losing. Searching for another job will provide you monthly income, so you don't have to bother if you lose in gambling. But that will be difficult if the money from your job is used for gambling.
It is difficult to control yourself so that you are not trapped to use all the money available to gamble, but I think people who are used to gambling will find it easy to exercise self-control.

 
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October 04, 2019, 03:45:29 AM
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It's funny that many people think that gambling money is dirty but everyone is happy to receive money without asking where it came from. Lottery prizes are basically gambling money that everyone is happy to accept. Selecting a set of numbers and buying a ticket in the hope of winning, is the equivalent of wagering on the Roulette wheel.

People think so primarily because in order for one person to win at roulette, another person has to lose their money. Also, a lot of people suffering from ludomania, and lose the last money in the casino and the administration can not prevent them.
Also, casinos used to be controlled by criminal gangs who laundered their criminal money there. Probably the concept of "dirty money" went from that time.
The essences of gambling itself perhaps the dirty because how we treated the gaming is why made this bad,for me gambling supposedly for fun but most of players make this a vices ,place where they can be supreme and unbeatable while the truth is the House is benefiting from this attitude
Gambling money become dirty if we intend this to be,but if we don’t!i believe money from gambling will not be treated dirty as it was
But just enjoy playing and never do bad things in return
The only reason why people seem to perceive that gambling money is dirty money is because they think that it's money that's easily won and money easily won is regarded as dirty but that's not true at all when it comes to gambling, most gamblers tend to win once in a while after spending a lot of their money in the process .
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October 04, 2019, 04:19:15 AM
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The only reason why people seem to perceive that gambling money is dirty money is because they think that it's money that's easily won and money easily won is regarded as dirty but that's not true at all when it comes to gambling, most gamblers tend to win once in a while after spending a lot of their money in the process .

That is because gambling is not like the other jobs that they did every day. They think that gambling will risk their money, and they only hope with the luck which they know that luck will not always come to them. They know that, but they decide to continue and pretending that the luck will come in the next round. Although they already spend so much money, they still difficult to win some money because luck does not come at all.
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October 04, 2019, 06:17:59 AM
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The only reason why people seem to perceive that gambling money is dirty money is because they think that it's money that's easily won and money easily won is regarded as dirty but that's not true at all when it comes to gambling, most gamblers tend to win once in a while after spending a lot of their money in the process .

That is because gambling is not like the other jobs that they did every day. They think that gambling will risk their money, and they only hope with the luck which they know that luck will not always come to them. They know that, but they decide to continue and pretending that the luck will come in the next round. Although they already spend so much money, they still difficult to win some money because luck does not come at all.
it is very often the case and done by many people. dissatisfaction, hoping for luck, not understanding the risk of making gambling no gain at all and only detrimental to the individual who forces it.

 
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October 04, 2019, 07:21:48 AM
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It's funny that many people think that gambling money is dirty but everyone is happy to receive money without asking where it came from. Lottery prizes are basically gambling money that everyone is happy to accept. Selecting a set of numbers and buying a ticket in the hope of winning, is the equivalent of wagering on the Roulette wheel.

People think so primarily because in order for one person to win at roulette, another person has to lose their money. Also, a lot of people suffering from ludomania, and lose the last money in the casino and the administration can not prevent them.
Also, casinos used to be controlled by criminal gangs who laundered their criminal money there. Probably the concept of "dirty money" went from that time.

Not all casino though,otherwise they wouldn't be allowed in many countries. I guess it was a stereotypical labeling by people with little/no facts.

As regards administrators not able to help them, I guess admins are not able to help the addicts due to fear of losing the costumers. Both need help in this case lol.
Nice word by the way: "ludomania".
 



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October 04, 2019, 11:50:20 AM
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People think so primarily because in order for one person to win at roulette, another person has to lose their money. Also, a lot of people suffering from ludomania, and lose the last money in the casino and the administration can not prevent them.
Also, casinos used to be controlled by criminal gangs who laundered their criminal money there. Probably the concept of "dirty money" went from that time.
When we talk about the dirty money, here we discussed about the laundered money out of criminal activities. When we take into calculation on this, it'll be very less compared to the corruption money which is truly the dirty money. Because it is people's money getting accumulated with a single person. So, if we think about dirty money and play, it is quite hard to spend on gambling, because every money in one way or other has little dirt.

Like I said before. All the money in this world can be considered dirty in one way or another, because it is redistributed from one person to another and not always fairly.



The essences of gambling itself perhaps the dirty because how we treated the gaming is why made this bad,for me gambling supposedly for fun but most of players make this a vices ,place where they can be supreme and unbeatable while the truth is the House is benefiting from this attitude
Gambling money become dirty if we intend this to be,but if we don’t!i believe money from gambling will not be treated dirty as it was
But just enjoy playing and never do bad things in return

For me, gambling itself has never been dirty. And you know why? Because I always knew that in a casino the chances of my winning are less than the chances of the casino taking my money, and this information is not hidden from anyone and everyone can make a choice to play or not.



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Nice word by the way: "ludomania".

This word means a person's disease and expresses a psychological addiction to gambling.
This can be compared to alcoholism, which expresses dependence on alcohol consumption.
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October 04, 2019, 02:04:56 PM
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This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



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1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



It will all depends on the culture of the people. For example, in some rural areas here in our country, gambling is as a common as your day job and no one will raise an eyebrow if you feed your family with those money. But in urban areas, casinos have a bad reputation and we even have a law where no public official shall partake in any games of any gambling institutions. And for me, money is still money. I don't care if people think that my money is "dirty" just because I won it from gambling. It is not their place to judge where I get what I spend just to live.
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October 04, 2019, 02:07:37 PM
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I think you cannot consider gambling money as a dirty money because it is not like other illegal activities such as money laundering. As long you are playing gambling for entertainment and for your leisure time you cannot say that gambling money is a dirty money because you are earning it by playing and not stealing it which it is not illegal just like money laundering.
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October 04, 2019, 02:31:27 PM
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Like I said before. All the money in this world can be considered dirty in one way or another, because it is redistributed from one person to another and not always fairly.


There is no perfect system of fairness in the world, not democracy, not capitalism not even sports.   Sometimes people will suffer bad luck but the opportunity to take part is the gift everyone should be grateful for in life.    I see nothing wrong with plain gambling as a game where you can win and often will not, anyone reasonable should accept that possibility for pretty much every task in life every day.
   When people think they will take a game and win big because they bet big and the world owes them then they are going to corrected in a likely unpleasant way.    Thats just life as an adult, its better to understand then believe its the fault of the game or whatever task you took on.    

Money is circulated constantly in an economy and thats a positive because for every loser in a trade, there is a winner and even the profits come round to favor those who do the best business.  Gambling could be looked down on as not favoring good practice, risk for the sake of risk but its nothing more negative then drinking or smoking or wasting time on many different games which dont really promote any great advantage like science or normal industry might produce.

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October 04, 2019, 02:41:07 PM
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Like I said before. All the money in this world can be considered dirty in one way or another, because it is redistributed from one person to another and not always fairly.

only if the money or crypto has already been circulated on the market but what if you will get them from thier root sources . for money or physical fiat ,thier root source are from the banks because they are the ones that print it  . on cryptos thier root source are from mining  .  you can make sure that you are the first holder of those funds so they are not considered dirty at all but using these funds to gamble is still not considered dirty as long as the gambling game or gambling site is 102% legal  .
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October 04, 2019, 03:03:00 PM
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The only reason why people seem to perceive that gambling money is dirty money is because they think that it's money that's easily won and money easily won is regarded as dirty but that's not true at all when it comes to gambling, most gamblers tend to win once in a while after spending a lot of their money in the process .

That is because gambling is not like the other jobs that they did every day. They think that gambling will risk their money, and they only hope with the luck which they know that luck will not always come to them. They know that, but they decide to continue and pretending that the luck will come in the next round. Although they already spend so much money, they still difficult to win some money because luck does not come at all.

Gambling was a form of recreational activity that involves money actually, but if you're pertaining to a dirty side of money then it's true. Money is the dirty one and not gambling itself, it circulated worldwide and used of any types of person whether he's bad or good person. If those gamblers were using dirty money as instrument for betting on gambling, credits was not of gambling but for those people who did it unacceptably.

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October 04, 2019, 03:05:08 PM
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I think you cannot consider gambling money as a dirty money because it is not like other illegal activities such as money laundering. As long you are playing gambling for entertainment and for your leisure time you cannot say that gambling money is a dirty money because you are earning it by playing and not stealing it which it is not illegal just like money laundering.
It is true you gamble for entertainment purposes and if doing against the law by obtaining crimes or doing illegal then gambling money is a dirty money. We must treat gambling as a past time and enjoy it because we are the one responsible for our own doing.
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