[ANN][CATc] Cataloniacoin · Conference soon thanks to a Google dev · SCRYPT-N

[perhan007]

I'm not sure if it is not to early for exchange.... any thoughts ?

Where have you seen an Exchange? I haven't ;-)

[speedhash.eu]

http://catc.speedhash.eu SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What the fuck!!!!!! this bloody pool has been down from right after I went to bed around 3:00AM to 8:00AM (GMT+2)

And you call yourselves professionals! Fuck you guys, you are not making it fair...

[Really angry and pissed-off]

We were just unlucky not to find any blocks at that time. But it doesn't mean we were down.

Look:
http://catc.speedhash.eu/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks

On the other hand we were much more lucky before and after. In the end blocks are being found @ average pace among all pools.

SpeedHash is a SCAM?

According to this [1] from block 590 to 711 your pool has not found any block (almost 5 hours!).
However if we look at the address you are using for the reward (from block 791 for instance [3] -> CWZKAp7BdeveELrXkpyMUozpujEPAeoWsQ).
The block explorer says that your pool has found blocks 637, 645, 663, 680 [2] which means 64 CATc you kept for yourself!!

Can you explain this please?

[1] http://catc.speedhash.eu/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks
[2] http://explorerino.com/address/CWZKAp7BdeveELrXkpyMUozpujEPAeoWsQ
[3] http://explorerino.com/block/c66d0d461f4f19dad1426afa8a727369affa8142a21b8b961df5b6b0b08d6ebb

Even its not our pool, but for your mentioned blocks its just a transaction OUT from the adress. So not the pool has found the block, its just used for a transaction.

That is true, I mess up with INPUT and OUTPUT. However this exact 16 CATc output transactions are a little curious.

And by the way, I don't believe that pool has been running for 5 hours without finding any block.
Anyone here knows how to calculate the probability of NOT finding a block during 5 hours with scrypt-n difficulty 8-10 and 30MH/s of hash power?

IMO there might be two answers:

1. some technical problem which the pool owner does not want to tell
2. pool changed its CATc reward address and mine for some hours for itself

Is there any way to verify the second point?

p4u - What's wrong with you?

From my observation - newbie users are usually those who shout: SCAM! all over the place.

Blocks 637, 645 and 663 were found by hashfever pool:

http://catc.hashfever.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=round&height=637
http://catc.hashfever.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=round&height=645
http://catc.hashfever.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=round&height=663

Block 680 was found by some other pool. Go and find out.

And yes, it is all about the probability.

Please check again block history and see how probability works:
http://catc.speedhash.eu/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks

catc.speedhash.eu - honest pool with fast servers

[CataloniaCoin]

Bitcointalk is now on 

Remember that some exchanges are going to be available in 24-48h but we're not going to post anything because it's very soon to announce official exchanges and we don't want to be "another coin"

CataloniaCoin can be a good and new alternative for payments in Catalonia's near future 

[p4u]

http://catc.speedhash.eu SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What the fuck!!!!!! this bloody pool has been down from right after I went to bed around 3:00AM to 8:00AM (GMT+2)

And you call yourselves professionals! Fuck you guys, you are not making it fair...

[Really angry and pissed-off]

We were just unlucky not to find any blocks at that time. But it doesn't mean we were down.

Look:
http://catc.speedhash.eu/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks

On the other hand we were much more lucky before and after. In the end blocks are being found @ average pace among all pools.

SpeedHash is a SCAM?

According to this [1] from block 590 to 711 your pool has not found any block (almost 5 hours!).
However if we look at the address you are using for the reward (from block 791 for instance [3] -> CWZKAp7BdeveELrXkpyMUozpujEPAeoWsQ).
The block explorer says that your pool has found blocks 637, 645, 663, 680 [2] which means 64 CATc you kept for yourself!!

Can you explain this please?

[1] http://catc.speedhash.eu/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks
[2] http://explorerino.com/address/CWZKAp7BdeveELrXkpyMUozpujEPAeoWsQ
[3] http://explorerino.com/block/c66d0d461f4f19dad1426afa8a727369affa8142a21b8b961df5b6b0b08d6ebb

Even its not our pool, but for your mentioned blocks its just a transaction OUT from the adress. So not the pool has found the block, its just used for a transaction.

That is true, I mess up with INPUT and OUTPUT. However this exact 16 CATc output transactions are a little curious.

And by the way, I don't believe that pool has been running for 5 hours without finding any block.
Anyone here knows how to calculate the probability of NOT finding a block during 5 hours with scrypt-n difficulty 8-10 and 30MH/s of hash power?

IMO there might be two answers:

1. some technical problem which the pool owner does not want to tell
2. pool changed its CATc reward address and mine for some hours for itself

Is there any way to verify the second point?

p4u - What's wrong with you?

From my observation - newbie users are usually those who shout: SCAM! all over the place.

Blocks 637, 645 and 663 were found by hashfever pool:

http://catc.hashfever.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=round&height=637
http://catc.hashfever.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=round&height=645
http://catc.hashfever.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=round&height=663

Block 680 was found by some other pool. Go and find out.

And yes, it is all about the probability.

Please check again block history and see how probability works:
http://catc.speedhash.eu/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks

catc.speedhash.eu - honest pool with fast servers

I already said I was messed up with INPUT/OUTPUT in the block explorer. I apologize for that.

However there are two things where I have still some doubts:

1. This 5 hours (from 3 to 8 GMT+1 or +2) where my miners has not been generating any coin in your pool (sorry but it is very unlikely IMO)
2. You said 0% Fees in the promotion time, well in my account from block 279 to block 337 there are fees applied. I actually don't care, it is a small number, but you are not doing what you promised.

[speedhash.eu]

I already said I was messed up with INPUT/OUTPUT in the block explorer. I apologize for that.

However there are two things where I have still some doubts:

1. This 5 hours (from 3 to 8 GMT+1 or +2) where my miners has not been generating any coin in your pool (sorry but it is very unlikely IMO)
2. You said 0% Fees in the promotion time, well in my account from block 279 to block 337 there are fees applied. I actually don't care, it is a small number, but you are not doing what you promised.

It would be good to check first and then shout SCAM. You can harm people and businesses by doing that.

1) I will repeat again. No matter how unlikely - this is probability. Everyone now and then wins lottery. It is very unlikely to win lottery you would say. YES but some people win actually. This is how probability works. After this block pool found a lot of blocks much faster than it should. That's how it works. Observe other pools and you will see the same.

2) I also said that we need some time to verify and assign 0% FEE. Your account was awarded with 0% FEE some time after launch. Can't tell now when exactly.

Good luck!

[p4u]

I already said I was messed up with INPUT/OUTPUT in the block explorer. I apologize for that.

However there are two things where I have still some doubts:

1. This 5 hours (from 3 to 8 GMT+1 or +2) where my miners has not been generating any coin in your pool (sorry but it is very unlikely IMO)
2. You said 0% Fees in the promotion time, well in my account from block 279 to block 337 there are fees applied. I actually don't care, it is a small number, but you are not doing what you promised.

It would be good to check first and then shout SCAM. You can harm people and businesses by doing that.

1) I will repeat again. No matter how unlikely - this is probability. Everyone now and then wins lottery. It is very unlikely to win lottery you would say. YES but some people win actually. This is how probability works. After this block pool found a lot of blocks much faster than it should. That's how it works. Observe other pools and you will see the same.

2) I also said that we need some time to verify and assign 0% FEE. Your account was awarded with 0% FEE some time after launch. Can't tell now when exactly.

Good luck!

I've modified my original post.

[crocko]

can I use vertminer ?

[atleticofa]

can I use vertminer ?

Yes, of course.

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[leduc]

hello,

am mining on hashfever pool ,on dashboard "my hashrate" doesnt reflect my miner hashrate... should i worry about it ?

10-20% of fluctuation must be normal. More means something wrong, it might be your Internet connection or the pool. Are you getting REJECTS?

i had no reject but some HW

i am mining on vertminer on windows 7  with 4gb ram

5x R9 280 card ,i have to lower TC to 4500 and intensity to 12 to avoir HW.. my card are running at 140kh/s only. if i raise TC  i got kernel queud error and if i raise Intensity i got HW

is there a method to increase my kh/s with only 4gb ram plz?

[virtualdn]

please post the faucet on the main op thread

http://coinok.pw/faucet/catc

thanks

[Davidbc]

hello,

am mining on hashfever pool ,on dashboard "my hashrate" doesnt reflect my miner hashrate... should i worry about it ?

10-20% of fluctuation must be normal. More means something wrong, it might be your Internet connection or the pool. Are you getting REJECTS?

i had no reject but some HW

i am mining on vertminer on windows 7  with 4gb ram

5x R9 280 card ,i have to lower TC to 4500 and intensity to 12 to avoir HW.. my card are running at 140kh/s only. if i raise TC  i got kernel queud error and if i raise Intensity i got HW

is there a method to increase my kh/s with only 4gb ram plz?

5x R9 280 card and 4GB RAM... pls.

[oxymajner]

WALLET WITH ALL THE PREMINED COINS:
http://explorerino.com/address/CJbc828TNrc1Rnk6kkf3fWAm2A8ruaqm7N

Why is balance of above wallet = 0?

[bitmonster]

hello,

am mining on hashfever pool ,on dashboard "my hashrate" doesnt reflect my miner hashrate... should i worry about it ?

10-20% of fluctuation must be normal. More means something wrong, it might be your Internet connection or the pool. Are you getting REJECTS?

i had no reject but some HW

i am mining on vertminer on windows 7  with 4gb ram

5x R9 280 card ,i have to lower TC to 4500 and intensity to 12 to avoir HW.. my card are running at 140kh/s only. if i raise TC  i got kernel queud error and if i raise Intensity i got HW

is there a method to increase my kh/s with only 4gb ram plz?

You can try to run under linux with you rig, if you are not savvy enough too configure & compile your cgminer for your rig, You can download the latest version of BAMT,it has all the latest versions of cgminer, sgminer, vertminer, etc... You just need to know how too "burn" a .img file 2 a USB stick, you can use a 2gb USB stick & restart your rig with it, see if you like it or if you don't like it, you can just restart your rig under windows...

i have several rigs but the smallest one has 2 radeon 7950 & runs at about 190 kh/s per card, so 140 for your R9 280 is low, will run much faster under linux & cooler

[p4u]

WALLET WITH ALL THE PREMINED COINS:
http://explorerino.com/address/CJbc828TNrc1Rnk6kkf3fWAm2A8ruaqm7N

Why is balance of above wallet = 0?

Wow, following the coins from the premined wallet... They money has been started to be split among several Wallets!!!
There are many transactions of small quantities (the bigger one I've seen was 5000 CATc) to many other wallets.

[giveBTCpls]

http://catc.mingopool.com

I was mining there and all my shares got refused (said shares are above target), then cgminer says im "temporarly banned"

what is this shit

[paulsonnumismatics]

Hmm the 160 giveaway is still MIA, and the premine wallet is empty...
Ok, lets say 6 hours for giving you guys a chance to explain. BRB later.

[p4u]

I'm Catalan citizen. I was in the IRC asking questions which concerns me because they claim to launch a coin for Catalonia.

I've asked how can I be sure that the 50% of the coins are gonna be spread among the citizens.
Because if the coin enter in exchanges and it get a good price, 50% of coins will be a huge amount of money!

Their answer has been "I'm busy now, I cannot answer you". I've said "I think this should be clear before the launching of the coin" and then they kicked me from the IRC channel.

I feel not comfortable with this project. It is not solid nor serious IMO.
I want a NEUTRAL crypto for my country, and I think some NGO should administrate the 50% premined coins.
They are not answering such very important questions.
This smells very very bad.

The conversation is in Catalan, sorry if you cannot understand it.

Code:

00:15 < p4u> estem parlant de moneda... és algo serio
00:15 < p4u> no sé quin és el vostre objectiu i tampoc si ho seguirà sent demà
00:15 < p4u> però si això "triomfa", qui diu que no despareixereu amb el 50% de la moneda?
00:16 < p4u> la canviareu a BTC 
00:16 < p4u> i us comprareu una mansió a miami?
00:16 < p4u> heu de deixar en mans d'algú neutral l'administració del 50%
00:16 < p4u> o tindreu massa tentacions..
00:16 < membrillu> òstia p4u, m'estàs fent passar les ganes de minar...
00:17 < p4u> membrillu :P doncs mina lefacoins
00:17 < membrillu> em fas adonar que tot això és una estafa...
00:17 <@CoinFran> Aquelles coins n es toquen
00:17 <@CoinFran> esta publica la dirccio
00:17 < p4u> CoinFran: vosaltres teniu la clau privada
00:17 < p4u> està sota la vostra voluntat
00:17 < membrillu> si tot això que dius és cert....
00:17 < p4u> i això a mi no em convenç
00:17 < membrillu> primer els arregles el codi, i ara els fots els minadors...
00:18 < membrillu> encara estava amb la merda de la compilació...
00:18 <@cataloniacoindev> p4u si no et convenç ja saps que hi ha moltes monedes
00:18 < membrillu> es veu que han canviat l'adreça de github... sembla que s'han carregat el primer projecte...
00:18 < p4u> cataloniacoindev: repeteixo el que ja he dit, si la moneda és diguès "lefacoin" em donaria igual
00:18 < p4u> però es diu "cataloniacoin"
00:18 < membrillu> cataloniacoindev: argument patètic, nen, que estàs fent servir el nome de CATALUNYA
00:18 < p4u> i això vulguem o no em fa "responsable"
00:18 < p4u> del que pugui passar
00:18 <@cataloniacoindev> doncs o sento molt pero jo no et penso contestar mes avui
00:18 < membrillu> i això és molt rastrero...
00:19 <@cataloniacoindev> estic enfeinat amb moltes coses
00:19 < p4u> cataloniacoindev jo no ho sento :)
00:19 < membrillu> cataloniacoindev: quina pobresa d'arguments...
00:19 < p4u> cataloniacoindev: és l'argument més fàcil "no vull parlar"
00:19 < p4u> genial ;)
00:19 < membrillu> cataloniacoindev: aquest tiu us està posant verds, s'us veu el plumero, i només contestes que no penses dir res més...
00:19 < membrillu> ????
00:19 <@cataloniacoindev> plumero de que?
00:19 < membrillu> a part sembla que el notes la toca...
00:20 <@cataloniacoindev> ACABEM DE TREURA LA MONEDA
00:20 <@cataloniacoindev> ESTEM ENFEINATS NO HO ENTENEU?
00:20 < membrillu> i ja esteu forrats com ha dit ell?
00:20 < p4u> cataloniacoindev: aquestes preguntes s'han de contestar abans de treure la moneda
00:20 <@cataloniacoindev> no estem aqui per etentre les preguntes de 2 persones
00:20 < membrillu> enfeinats? no hauríeu de tenir la feina feta ja?
00:20 <@cataloniacoindev> PUES AIXO MATEIX
00:20 < Dominguet> Si estigueren forrats no estarien aci aguantan-vos
00:20 <@cataloniacoindev> FA 15 DIES
00:20 <@cataloniacoindev> QUE LES VAM ANUNCIA
00:20 <@CoinFran> La feina feta no es llençar la moneda iaadéu
00:20 <@cataloniacoindev> PODRIEU HABER PREGUNTAT ABANS
00:20 <@cataloniacoindev> NO ARA
00:20 <@CoinFran> estem aqui per alguna cosa
00:20 < membrillu> PUES??? això sí que és català de debò...
00:20 < p4u> Dominguet: ara encara no té valor, quan en tingui... serà un altra història
00:21 -!- p4u was kicked from #officialcataloniacoin by cataloniacoindev [wibble]

All i understand & All i can say:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cKGyOE_jOI

It was actually what I was pointing yesterday... it is really a pity that something which would be nice for Catalonia end up this way.
Or the wallet has been stolen of the developers did these movements in purpose.
However in  both cases I don't see a good end for this mess.

[CataloniaCoin]

There's a problem with block explorer and coins seem to change their direction. But they're on our premine wallet.

Anothers coins have the same problem. with the poolerino block explorer


ALL THE PREMINED COINS TO CATALONIA ARE IN THIS ADDRES NOW http://explorerino.com/address/CMW6Ftm3e8jXtaorhvkDnWAyYVf7wQcYtD

[Davidbc]

edit: mmm seems the premine is still there.