Online Cock Fighting

[Janation]

So you mean to say that cock fighting is legal in Philippines but online betting on it is not legal and it's been done privately hidden from the government agencies ?

That is what he means.

Since they are not monitoring the internet.

They will never know what is there that is hiding. They can take down that site as long as they know that it is illegal or not under their law.

[TheCoinGrabber]

How can you say that cock fighting is not regulated in Philippines and government do not know about it. Public tournaments of cock fighting do happen in Manila Philippines.

I think what he's saying is the site as a whole.

We all know that cock fighting is regulated in our country, but this site? I don't know.

What is the owner of this site don't really know who owns the video he's streaming? We don't even know if our government knows about this. Legal or not, I just hope this site is legit and I hope they would accept Bitcoin.

The Philippines isn't well known for good internet monitoring. 

I agree with you that there's a possibility of this site being a "fly by night" operation. Personally I wouldn't bet on it unless I can be sure it is really registered with the government. So many identity theft incident these days.

[mich]

Bumping this hoping we find someone to contact the ADMIN for possible BITCOIN gambling.

[xSkylarx]

Bumping this hoping we find someone to contact the ADMIN for possible BITCOIN gambling.

I think the admin of that website is from the Philippines. And I doubt he would approve to include bitcoin as one of payment methods on his website. Bitcoin here is only popular to people that is looking for investments usually rich. I think people that bets into cock fighting here doesn't know how to use bitcoin or even know what it is.

[ethereumhunter]

Until someone can build a new gambling site or add this betting into crypto gambling games, so this game will be available to use crypto, especially bitcoin. And if not, then people could only play this game by offline. I think that will interest if the site can add the match so people can watch the fighting show. But I guess that will be rude since not all people want to see a brutal match by the cockfighting.

[Reatim]

Bumping this hoping we find someone to contact the ADMIN for possible BITCOIN gambling.

I think the admin of that website is from the Philippines. And I doubt he would approve to include bitcoin as one of payment methods on his website. Bitcoin here is only popular to people that is looking for investments usually rich. I think people that bets into cock fighting here doesn't know how to use bitcoin or even know what it is.

Where did you get the idea that investors of bitcoin is rich people only?dont you know that even employees now are starting to invest in bitcoin?
And there’s no need to be investors just to play with cryptocurrency because even campaign participants from all bounties can ply using their payments so basically this will improve the gambling site if the owner allows us to play Cockfighting using our cryptocurrency

[Duzter]

Bumping this hoping we find someone to contact the ADMIN for possible BITCOIN gambling.

I think the admin of that website is from the Philippines. And I doubt he would approve to include bitcoin as one of payment methods on his website. Bitcoin here is only popular to people that is looking for investments usually rich. I think people that bets into cock fighting here doesn't know how to use bitcoin or even know what it is.

There might be some plans for it, and I don't know how this cock fights were conducted integrating to online gambling access. In my locality it happens as a tournament where we're supposed to register. The registration closes by certain time and to get registered a small fee is being collected. Further the matches were scheduled and at the time of fight people crowded at the place used to bet and pay. Winners will get rewarded once the match gets over.

[mu_enrico]

Jesus... Seriously? Sabong101-dot-com?
I tried to access that site but failed. What happened?

The funny thing is here in Indonesia cockfighting is called "sabung" not "sabong."
Is the bet also based on "odds," like boxing?

[bisdak40]

Yup, it's governed by this 45 year old law which is the PD449 and it have a couple of ammendments, i just forgot what PD it is. No law governing online cockfighting AFAIK.

I just searched this PD499 law which was made way back in 1974 by Manila PRESIDENTIAL authority. There should have some updates or changes in it as things do change in the period of 50 years or so.
https://www.lawphil.net/statutes/presdecs/pd1974/pd_449_1974.html

There are amendments to this PD449 where it is stated there that the local government can regulate cockfighting but i don't know why there is a raid on a cockpit arena near to my place. The raiding team's basis for the raid is the PD449, it's controversial as one of the owner of the cockpit arena is a government official. Please see below for the link of the news.

https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1817492

[JohnBitCo]

Yup, it's governed by this 45 year old law which is the PD449 and it have a couple of ammendments, i just forgot what PD it is. No law governing online cockfighting AFAIK.

I just searched this PD499 law which was made way back in 1974 by Manila PRESIDENTIAL authority. There should have some updates or changes in it as things do change in the period of 50 years or so.
https://www.lawphil.net/statutes/presdecs/pd1974/pd_449_1974.html

There are amendments to this PD449 where it is stated there that the local government can regulate cockfighting but i don't know why there is a raid on a cockpit arena near to my place. The raiding team's basis for the raid is the PD449, it's controversial as one of the owner of the cockpit arena is a government official. Please see below for the link of the news.

https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1817492

This incident is not very old and just happened on August 5 this year and around 200 people were held by the police. According to the amendments, cockfighting is allowed on holidays like on Sundays and public holidays. If that is true than why they raid this cockfighting arena ?
Maybe because Aug 5th was Monday and the cockfighting was still going on there ?

[bisdak40]

This incident is not very old and just happened on August 5 this year and around 200 people were held by the police. According to the amendments, cockfighting is allowed on holidays like on Sundays and public holidays. If that is true than why they raid this cockfighting arena ?
Maybe because Aug 5th was Monday and the cockfighting was still going on there ?

This incident happened not so long ago and it is controversial.

Per PD449 cockfighting is allowed only on Sundays and some public holidays. That the basis of the raiding team, the PD449.

On part of the owner of the arena that is being raided they used the amendment of that PD449 as the basis on holding cockfight on Mondays as they secured permit from the local government. I think on the amendments we can see there that "local government can regulate the holding of a cockfighting". As i have said, this is a controversial incident. 

[joshy23]

This incident is not very old and just happened on August 5 this year and around 200 people were held by the police. According to the amendments, cockfighting is allowed on holidays like on Sundays and public holidays. If that is true than why they raid this cockfighting arena ?
Maybe because Aug 5th was Monday and the cockfighting was still going on there ?

This incident happened not so long ago and it is controversial.

Per PD449 cockfighting is allowed only on Sundays and some public holidays. That the basis of the raiding team, the PD449.

On part of the owner of the arena that is being raided they used the amendment of that PD449 as the basis on holding cockfight on Mondays as they secured permit from the local government. I think on the amendments we can see there that "local government can regulate the holding of a cockfighting". As i have said, this is a controversial incident. 

That could be a good question to ask since the amendment cover the old law, there's an argument between the raiding teams and the owner of the cockfighting arena. He facilitate the game even it's not Sunday or holiday due to the permit that he have from the local government unit. It will be a controversy since Amendment should carry-over the entire rule.

[Reatim]

Jesus... Seriously? Sabong101-dot-com?
I tried to access that site but failed. What happened?

I believe that the site is exclusion in Philippines so since you’re from Indonesia you can’t access the site

The funny thing is here in Indonesia cockfighting is called "sabung" not "sabong."

There are almost similar spelling,pronunciation and meaning from Indonesian words and Filipino as well,and since Sabung on yours in Philippines it’s SABONG

Is the bet also based on "odds," like boxing?

Yups it’s like Boxing ,either who’s wins from the opponent who Dies,run or stop fighting

[Oilacris]

I was surprised when there was a gamble like this,
How can cock fight be made online gambling? I think the developers are smart and creative people,
and in my opinion it is very unlikely if there is a BTC payment, because there are rarely interested in gambling like that, including me.

For every fight happened or tournament, there should be someone to operate the site. Like he/she will be the decider who will be the winner Meron (Left side), Wala(Right side).
Most of the fights are LIVE STREAM. They will air every fight in particular tournament and they have rules about technical problems will be encounter during fight.
The only thing I concerned here is the fee, the site owner getting fee by percentage for every bet you made.

So win or lose, the owner takes percentage of the winnings? House edge?

Philippines is one of the most crypto friendly countries around the Southeast Asia, I'm sure that it's just a matter of time when operators of this so called "Sabong" would venture and accept BTC as payment scheme. 

As usual since this is a business after all.It would really have that commission on any fights because its impossible for this a free service after all. Right?

[qwertyup23]

As someone who grew up in a family who competes in cockfighting, this actually caught my attention which makes everything interesting!

Before the start of fight, people would usually bet on which side would win. Usually, the minimum bet (depending on the place) is around $10 and it could exceed more depending on the agreed amount. After the fight, the people you betted with would approach you (or vice versa) and ask for the money if you lost. But with an implementation of an online gambling system where you could use your resources, this would be much convenient for users.

This incident is not very old and just happened on August 5 this year and around 200 people were held by the police. According to the amendments, cockfighting is allowed on holidays like on Sundays and public holidays. If that is true than why they raid this cockfighting arena ?
Maybe because Aug 5th was Monday and the cockfighting was still going on there ?

This incident happened not so long ago and it is controversial.

Per PD449 cockfighting is allowed only on Sundays and some public holidays. That the basis of the raiding team, the PD449.

On part of the owner of the arena that is being raided they used the amendment of that PD449 as the basis on holding cockfight on Mondays as they secured permit from the local government. I think on the amendments we can see there that "local government can regulate the holding of a cockfighting". As i have said, this is a controversial incident. 

Assuming that there is a local government code that regulates the holding of a cockfighting pit, that shall be binding to the parties. The special law (the local government code) will be an exception to the general law (PD449).

[judeafante]

Last week someone shared me gamble where you can bet on cock fighting online. But on this platform we only use our national currency to cash in will convert it credits where 1PHP : 1 credits.
It's just sad because they don't accept Bitcoin. I having hardtime to cash in/cash out by going to any banks or remmitance.

Anyone here tried to gamble with cock fighting?
And maybe you know some websites that accepting Bitcoin.

This is new to me I love cockfighting sometimes I go out to bet on a cockfighting arena, but on choosing arena and online cockfighting I prefer arena I love the heat the intensity and the noise that comes along with it, there is so much excitement when you at the presence on two cockfighting to survive and you are betting on one of them.

[Oasisman]

Philippines is one of the most crypto friendly countries around the Southeast Asia, I'm sure that it's just a matter of time when operators of this so called "Sabong" would venture and accept BTC as payment scheme. 

I doubt that. Philippines might be crypto friendly, but the cockfighting peeps may not. Most of these people are clever, they want "money down" first attitude. So they'll probably prefer fiat than Bitcoin, and most of them probably still dont have any idea how Bitcoin works. Might not work for the mediocre cockfighting gamblers, but will consider to those big time gamblers who place huge bet every match, where usually are those government officials and businessmen.

This incident is not very old and just happened on August 5 this year and around 200 people were held by the police. According to the amendments, cockfighting is allowed on holidays like on Sundays and public holidays. If that is true than why they raid this cockfighting arena ?
Maybe because Aug 5th was Monday and the cockfighting was still going on there ?

This incident happened not so long ago and it is controversial.

Per PD449 cockfighting is allowed only on Sundays and some public holidays. That the basis of the raiding team, the PD449.

On part of the owner of the arena that is being raided they used the amendment of that PD449 as the basis on holding cockfight on Mondays as they secured permit from the local government. I think on the amendments we can see there that "local government can regulate the holding of a cockfighting". As i have said, this is a controversial incident. 

It was stated there that the authorities noticed the cockpit was operating everyday. PD449 only allows cockfighting on sunday and special holidays. I guess that's their ground  on why they operated the raid.

[jhongzjhong]

Philippines is one of the most crypto friendly countries around the Southeast Asia, I'm sure that it's just a matter of time when operators of this so called "Sabong" would venture and accept BTC as payment scheme. 

I doubt that. Philippines might be crypto friendly, but the cockfighting peeps may not. Most of these people are clever, they want "money down" first attitude. So they'll probably prefer fiat than Bitcoin, and most of them probably still dont have any idea how Bitcoin works. Might not work for the mediocre cockfighting gamblers, but will consider to those big time gamblers who place huge bet every match, where usually are those government officials and businessmen.

Exactly, they are crypto-friendly users but cockfighting live is only for fiat. I never heard that they use bitcoin for cockfighting in a live fight but who knows on that OP showed online gambling site cockfighting feature will use crypto soon. Because it is very popular here in the Philippines in using crypto and not only by that even the central bank was recognized bitcoin is a form of the payment system. No doubt and probably time will come to all gambling online must be based on cryptocurrency which is because it is very convenient to use.

[vintages]

Until someone can build a new gambling site or add this betting into crypto gambling games, so this game will be available to use crypto, especially bitcoin. And if not, then people could only play this game by offline. I think that will interest if the site can add the match so people can watch the fighting show. But I guess that will be rude since not all people want to see a brutal match by the cockfighting.

Exactly my thought.
i think many people are skeptical of implementing on putting this type game in their site because of some people belief  in the danger it may cost the animal as some might end up dying even before the game end, it may lead to site banning. I guess anyone that wants to play this game will have to do some offline in a mutual agreement with bitcoin as a payment method.

[dunfida]

Until someone can build a new gambling site or add this betting into crypto gambling games, so this game will be available to use crypto, especially bitcoin. And if not, then people could only play this game by offline. I think that will interest if the site can add the match so people can watch the fighting show. But I guess that will be rude since not all people want to see a brutal match by the cockfighting.

Exactly my thought.
i think many people are skeptical of implementing on putting this type game in their site because of some people belief  in the danger it may cost the animal as some might end up dying even before the game end, it may lead to site banning. I guess anyone that wants to play this game will have to do some offline in a mutual agreement with bitcoin as a payment method.

For that kind of site, its clearly that it would show the live fight of those cocks.This isnt a typical sport that you would just bet up on whose gonna win.
Basing on the platform you would able to see on the fight of those cocks.Site banning? No it would depend on countries jurisdiction and as i heard out that
Cock fighting is somewhat not illegal into this country so it means this would just work fine.