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December 21, 2022, 11:22:51 AM
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I never saw MMA fight on the last day of this year

Good that tokeweed has mentioned Pride FC, as they were the one who loved to have events on December 31.

I remember like it was yesterday. It is 23:50, I am sitting around the new years table (celebration of a new year on Dec 31 is a bigger holiday than xmas in our country) with my family, the president is about to give his speech, summarize everything we had this year and etc, people about to drink Champaign and run outside to fire fireworks, everyone are happy. Happy except me, because I want to switch TV to sports channel and watch Fedor "The last Emperor" Emelianenko fight Cheesy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_Emelianenko - take a look yourself. Go to his record section, press ctrl+f and type 31 December. While everyone were eating salads, meatballs, drinking, opening presents, he has been fighting 7 times on the last day of the year. Crazy Asians Cheesy

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December 21, 2022, 10:00:24 PM
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I think I will make my pick for the fights on KSW 77 for me it was an exciting event and because we will all witness a David and Goliath fight a Middleweight VS a Heavyweight for the Main Event,

Mariusz Pudzianowski VS Mamed Khalidov

Sebastian Przybysz VS Jakub Wikłacz

Aleksandra Karaseva VS Wiktoria Czyżewska
So many surprise happen on KSW 77, Khalidov can win via TKO in the first round, it was a brutal punch and Pudzianowski can't handle it maybe because of his ages. Although Wikłacz is winning, but Przybysz really give a good match and it's quite close, they deserve to have a rematch. And Czyżewska can beat Karaseva, no comment about it since it's their first debut on KSW lol. However I still wonder why Ivan Erslan performance is quite different than his previous matches.

I was really late and because this thread is not updating so much that I think it is better to stay calm and become busy somewhere else, the Main Event as the start of the fight I have seen the stance of Mariusz Pudzianowski I say oh no I have bet the wrong guy, he doesn't have any confidence at all, while Mamed Khalidov was really calm and pretty much he is just playing with Pudzian, While Jakub Wikłacz did a great job in winning, pretty much he busted his face but he kept on fighting until the bell rang with a decision win,



I'd say I am pretty much upset with the main event but again because of what I have seen, Mamed Kailidov despite that weight

Mariusz Pudzianowski VS Mamed Khalidov ROUND 1 KO/TKO - LOST

It was an easy victory for Mamed Khalidov, at the start of the match you can already notice who's going to win and when the fight resulted going to the ground Mariusz Pudzianowki have given up hi back, and with a mount Mamed pulverized him with punches,

Sebastian Przybysz VS Jakub Wikłacz ROUND 5 DECISION - WIN

Pretty much not a fight that did something extreme because it was a close one, Jakub Wiklacz just putted many strikes winning he game,

Aleksandra Karaseva VS Wiktoria Czyżewska ROUND 1 KO/TKO - WIN

Aleksandra Karaseva has proven her worth and that 1 punch KO that she have throw was really superb and a something to look out for her by her opponent,

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December 21, 2022, 10:35:33 PM
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And really, some competition against the UFC will be very good for us too.  More quality fights across different organizations.  Wink
Yeah and I am really excited for this upcoming Bellator Rizin event, there is five very good fights and chance for them to test how good other organizations are.
I remember when some UFC champions signed for ONE FC and they started losing fights easy, that means that there is no huge difference compared to UFC.
Does anyone know any crypto gambling website that offer this Bellator vs RIZIN event for gambling?

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December 21, 2022, 11:28:09 PM
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I never saw MMA fight on the last day of this year

Good that tokeweed has mentioned Pride FC, as they were the one who loved to have events on December 31.

I remember like it was yesterday. It is 23:50, I am sitting around the new years table (celebration of a new year on Dec 31 is a bigger holiday than xmas in our country) with my family, the president is about to give his speech, summarize everything we had this year and etc, people about to drink Champaign and run outside to fire fireworks, everyone are happy. Happy except me, because I want to switch TV to sports channel and watch Fedor "The last Emperor" Emelianenko fight Cheesy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_Emelianenko - take a look yourself. Go to his record section, press ctrl+f and type 31 December. While everyone were eating salads, meatballs, drinking, opening presents, he has been fighting 7 times on the last day of the year. Crazy Asians Cheesy

I wonder how making a fight on the 31st would be fair to the fighters? they are also people who have family and who have the right to be with their families to spend the 31st together, they shouldn't be greedy to let the family spend the 31st without them just because they want to fight and earn money, when they stay sick people will be in bed and will need the family to take care of them, their money doesn't have the legs and brains to take care of them

also people on the 31st travel and others are just focused on spending the day resting and doing activities with their family and friends, but most of the time they are not activities of watching or betting on fights, I think that even the casinos or the promoters of fights would be at a loss because few people would watch the fight on the 31st, it would not be advantageous for any fight promoter to put a fight on the 31st

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December 22, 2022, 04:15:12 PM
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I wonder how making a fight on the 31st would be fair to the fighters? they are also people who have family and who have the right to be with their families to spend the 31st together, they shouldn't be greedy to let the family spend the 31st without them just because they want to fight and earn money, when they stay sick people will be in bed and will need the family to take care of them, their money doesn't have the legs and brains to take care of them

also people on the 31st travel and others are just focused on spending the day resting and doing activities with their family and friends, but most of the time they are not activities of watching or betting on fights, I think that even the casinos or the promoters of fights would be at a loss because few people would watch the fight on the 31st, it would not be advantageous for any fight promoter to put a fight on the 31st

It is all about money. I find it ok to work on December 31. That is persons work, his choice. Police, medical guys, taxi drivers and etc do work on December 31 after all. A fighter could add a clause in his contract, that he will take his family with him. But like I've said, it was Pride FC, asian promotion. They dont celebrate New Years eve, they have their own New Year in January.

If I was offered to work on December 31, now, I think would accept such offer with some extra payment. But, if some of my relatives gets sick, I will think about quit that days job. Yet again, depends on a situation. High temperature and being in hospital are two different things,

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December 22, 2022, 05:32:17 PM
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the lineup for the oktagon 38 event is now fixed
among others the bantamweight title fight between the danish Jonas Magard and the czech Filip Macek will take place in prague on december 30th.


Jonas Magard is injured and unfortunately cannot defend his bantamweight title at oktagon 38 Tongue
however, ufc veteran Gustavo Lopez (12-6-1 usa) will fight Filip Macek (27-16-1 czech republic) for the interim belt

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December 22, 2022, 08:41:01 PM
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Bellator MMA vs Rizin FF

Date:  December 31, 9:00pm EST
Venue:  Saitama Super Arena, Saitama, Japan


the lineup for the oktagon 38 event is now fixed
among others the bantamweight title fight between the danish Jonas Magard and the czech Filip Macek will take place in prague on december 30th.
all other cage duels you can see from the graphic




Pretty much there are 2 upcoming MMA events this coming 12/30/2022 the one was Bellator VS Rizin which is very intriguing for two combat sports competing with each other, and the other is Oktagon 38 which I am not familiar with, but this coming 12/31/2022 I am talking about Cage Warriors and this event is

Cage Warriors 148

Saturday 12.31.2022 at 02:00 PM ET
Venue: Indigo at the O2
Location: London, England



MAIN EVENT
CWFC Middleweight Championship
Christian Leroy Duncan VS Jesse Taylor

CO-MAIN EVENT
CWFC Light Heavyweight Championship
Modestas Bukauskas VS Chuck Campbell

MAIN CARD
CWFC Flyweight Championship
Sam Creasey VS Shajidul Haque

Tuomas Gronvall VS Wilson Reis
Damon Wilson VS Tobias Harila
Darren Stewart VS Guilherme Cadena
Helio Hernandez VS Chasen Blair
Dario Bellandi VS Justin Barry
Emrah Sonmez VS Adam Meskini
Nathan Fletcher VS Alessandro Giordano
Nik Bagley VS Kallum Parker
Orlando Wilson Prins VS Samuel Bark

All information was from TAPOLOGY

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December 23, 2022, 12:08:34 AM
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Pretty much there are 2 upcoming MMA events this coming 12/30/2022 the one was Bellator VS Rizin which is very intriguing for two combat sports competing with each other, and the other is Oktagon 38 which I am not familiar with, but this coming 12/31/2022 I am talking about Cage Warriors and this event is
Cage Warriors 148
I don't know most of the fighters from this fight card but it's interesting to have United States vs Europe, and last day of this year s going to be full of MMA events Smiley
I can't find any crypto gambling website to make few bets on this events and make it little more interesting to watch.

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Pretty much there are 2 upcoming MMA events this coming 12/30/2022 the one was Bellator VS Rizin which is very intriguing for two combat sports competing with each other, and the other is Oktagon 38 which I am not familiar with, but this coming 12/31/2022 I am talking about Cage Warriors and this event is
Cage Warriors 148
I don't know most of the fighters from this fight card but it's interesting to have United States vs Europe, and last day of this year s going to be full of MMA events Smiley
I can't find any crypto gambling website to make few bets on this events and make it little more interesting to watch.


Well, the last Cage Warriors that I watched was a great one and just looking for tremendous fighters that have potential and could indeed have a bright future if they could switch to UFC and not just Cage Warriors but to Bellator, LFA, Oktagon, and other fighting sports a fighter that could make a worthwhile watch with PPV, and now that we don't have any event for the UFC I think it is beneficial to watch different combat sports and what could they offer for us,

I will give my pick and prediction maybe next week when I finish watching most of the main and co-main event recent fights and analysis on what they can do, and I am talking about OKTAGON 38: Macek vs. Lopez this coming December 30,

Next Cage Warrior 148 and lastly Bellator MMA vs. RIZIN FF will be on December 31, then the next matches will be on next year,

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Good news...  Stake has a betting market for all 5 match ups in the Bellator vs Rizin cross over event.

https://stake.com/sports/mma/bellator/bellator-mma-vs-rizin

At first glance I got all the Bellator fighters winning except one, Kyoji Horiguchi.  Dunno..  Just a hunch.  I saw him fight against Patchy Mix and lost in the bantam weight grand prix in one of the Bellator events.  It was prolly because of the size difference but still, Patchy Mix isn't really that good and it's a match up that Horiguchi should be winning.  He could be in a slightly early decline at 32.

Anyway yeah, excited to to do a little tape study now and make a parlay out of these 5 matches.  

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December 23, 2022, 09:16:16 PM
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Good news...  Stake has a betting market for all 5 match ups in the Bellator vs Rizin cross over event.

https://stake.com/sports/mma/bellator/bellator-mma-vs-rizin

At first glance I got all the Bellator fighters winning except one, Kyoji Horiguchi.  Dunno..  Just a hunch.  I saw him fight against Patchy Mix and lost in the bantam weight grand prix in one of the Bellator events.  It was prolly because of the size difference but still, Patchy Mix isn't really that good and it's a match up that Horiguchi should be winning.  He could be in a slightly early decline at 32.

Anyway yeah, excited to to do a little tape study now and make a parlay out of these 5 matches.  

WOW! thanks for sharing but I am really waiting for the bookies to upload that, but anyway a great event where we can see fighters for both combat sports will settle their difference and after seeing this I really wish there could be a Bellator X UFC on the horizon but who really knows,

And well that Kyoji Horiguchi VS Hiromasa Ougikubo is really an interesting one, they fought back then that was on July 29, 2018, and Kyoji Horiguchi won that fight, with the decision it was really a thrilling match, It is likely that Kyoji Horiguchi is dominant with his KO's and maybe has the strength to finish the fight with standings, but Hiromasa Ougikubo is a ground fighter mostly he will finish on the ground or a decision, but for me, you can never underestimate Hiromasa Ougikubo, and if they would likely to clash again this is going to be an entertaining, so expected me to post my picks and prediction 2 days prior to the fight,
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December 23, 2022, 09:30:56 PM
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Good news...  Stake has a betting market for all 5 match ups in the Bellator vs Rizin cross over event.
I am happy to hear about this!
Maybe Sportsbet will follow and add same event for betting, they usually add MMA fights later than competition.
Very low odds on Patricio Pitbull and Kyoji Horiguchi, and I can't find AJ McKee vs Roberto de Souza anywhere on their page, and this is most exciting fight.
On odds checker I see that AJ McKee is favorite but anything can happen in this fight.

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The upcoming fights if you guys want to get them for me it is good if you can watch their previous fights online, but if there aren't available fights online that you can watch I really don't recommend it to place any bets if you are not so sure or there isn't a big percentage if your going to win,

OKTAGON 38: Macek vs. Lopez

Filip Macek

Against Ramon Martinez here is the VIDEO

Against Mikael Silander here is the VIDEO

Gustavo Lopez

Against Anthony Birchak here is the VIDEO

Against Joey Ruquet here is the VIDEO


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AJ McKee Jr.

Against Spike Carlyle
Bellator 286: Pitbull vs. Borics Full Main Card Fight [urlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aezMy-opnm0&t=9560s]VIDEO[/url]

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Bellator 263: Pitbull vs. McKee Full Main Card Fight VIDEO

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Against Johnny Case Here is the VIDEO

Against Roberto de Souza Here is the VIDEO
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I wonder how making a fight on the 31st would be fair to the fighters? they are also people who have family and who have the right to be with their families to spend the 31st together, they shouldn't be greedy to let the family spend the 31st without them just because they want to fight and earn money, when they stay sick people will be in bed and will need the family to take care of them, their money doesn't have the legs and brains to take care of them

also people on the 31st travel and others are just focused on spending the day resting and doing activities with their family and friends, but most of the time they are not activities of watching or betting on fights, I think that even the casinos or the promoters of fights would be at a loss because few people would watch the fight on the 31st, it would not be advantageous for any fight promoter to put a fight on the 31st

It is all about money. I find it ok to work on December 31. That is persons work, his choice. Police, medical guys, taxi drivers and etc do work on December 31 after all. A fighter could add a clause in his contract, that he will take his family with him. But like I've said, it was Pride FC, asian promotion. They dont celebrate New Years eve, they have their own New Year in January.

If I was offered to work on December 31, now, I think would accept such offer with some extra payment. But, if some of my relatives gets sick, I will think about quit that days job. Yet again, depends on a situation. High temperature and being in hospital are two different things,

I understand that from the fighter's side it's all about money and he wouldn't think too much, he would accept it immediately, but from the fight promoter's side who also thinks about the money, he needs to think logically, for example the fight promoter needs to think about the following : what else do people do on the 31st? most people will be on vacation and as a consequence they will be enjoying themselves in some country, in some other city with family and friends or else those who stay at home will be enjoying themselves with family and friends and will not be on TV or in casinos doing bets

With that in mind, the fight promoter needs to think about whether it's really worth organizing a fight that won't have many views and people to buy tickets and watch the fights and consequently won't be able to raise much money, how will the fighter be paid? How will you pay the cost of operations? and what profit will they have? Wouldn't it be better to organize the fight when people will already be free from this festive period? this is what i think the fight promoter would think. honestly I don't see any advantage in organizing fights on December 31st

Good news...  Stake has a betting market for all 5 match ups in the Bellator vs Rizin cross over event.

https://stake.com/sports/mma/bellator/bellator-mma-vs-rizin

At first glance I got all the Bellator fighters winning except one, Kyoji Horiguchi.  Dunno..  Just a hunch.  I saw him fight against Patchy Mix and lost in the bantam weight grand prix in one of the Bellator events.  It was prolly because of the size difference but still, Patchy Mix isn't really that good and it's a match up that Horiguchi should be winning.  He could be in a slightly early decline at 32.

Anyway yeah, excited to to do a little tape study now and make a parlay out of these 5 matches. 

what caught my attention was the day of the fights, honestly they're going to fight on the 30th, don't these guys like to celebrate with their families? if one of them gets KO and ends up in the hospital, then he will spend the 31st in the hospital bed and the family crying because of his injuries, I know it's a job and you need to earn money, but there are times when you need to have common sense, finally as a bettor I will make some bets but I will not watch any fight

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December 25, 2022, 11:22:20 PM
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what caught my attention was the day of the fights, honestly they're going to fight on the 30th, don't these guys like to celebrate with their families?
This event is in going to happen on December 31 not on 30, and you can see that on their official poster.
English Premier League, Championship and other leagues are playing matches every year on December 26, 27, 30, 31, January 2, 3, 4, 5, so it's nothing strange for sport events around New Year.


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December 26, 2022, 12:32:05 PM
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If the date was December 31 then the event is going to be on 31, but having said about some events I think I will post my pick on OKTAGON 38 Surely I didn't see any sportsbooks on stake for this fight so I will just make my picks and prediction of what I think, but you can put your bet with cryptocurrency on Bovada

Filip Macek VS Gustavo Lopez
OKMMA Interim Bantamweight Championship

It is weird that the main event doesn't have any odds yet even in Bovada, but for this fight, both are good at finishing off their opponent with grappling, and for me the more creative they got and the more technical they go with the fight I think will win this, for me, I think that Filip Macek has more technicality, experience, and much younger than Gustavo Lopez, so I will be going with Filip Macek,

Matúš Juráček VS Alex Lohore

The Bovada odds for this fight are +145 for Juracek and -190 for Lohore, for this fight I think Alex Lohore has more experience than Juracek but Matus Juracek the kid got heart, but for this fight I think I will be getting Alex Lohore, to win against Matus Juracek,

Rafael Xavier VS Lee Chadwick

The Bovada odds for this fight are -175 for Xavier and +135 for Chadwick, for this fight even though Lee Chadwick had many wins over submission and he got more experience than Rafael Xavier, there is a unique thing that I have seen on Xavier, I think he got good takedown defense that if Chadwick exposed can be a big factor for Lee Chadwick but I think Rafael Xavier can surely get a win here so my pick is Rafael Xavier,

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December 26, 2022, 01:38:53 PM
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what caught my attention was the day of the fights, honestly they're going to fight on the 30th, don't these guys like to celebrate with their families?
This event is in going to happen on December 31 not on 30, and you can see that on their official poster.
English Premier League, Championship and other leagues are playing matches every year on December 26, 27, 30, 31, January 2, 3, 4, 5, so it's nothing strange for sport events around New Year.

but on stake.com it has a date of the 30th



but on stake.com it has a date of the 30th, as for the premier league games it really is strange that they play until the 31st, but since they are soccer games I don't see much problem in playing on those dates because the players don't run much risk of end up in the hospital, while these fighters, when they fight, are more likely to end up in the hospital and the family is worried about them, that's why I said that I don't see why they keep organizing fights on days when people are having parties, but how people have their own tastes I start to think that there are many people who go to watch fights even on December 31st

something even strange because here in my country when the 23rd of december arrives people are on vacation so everyone or almost everyone travels to other cities, other people prefer to stay far away from the city and then the lottery games, sports and fights everyone stops because there won't be people to assist, even to handle documents, the person is in a huge queue because there aren't many employees to attend to people

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December 26, 2022, 03:23:13 PM
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^  At Tapology the schedule says it's gonna be on Dec 31 at 8:00pm ET, the usual schedule for many UFC PPV events.  But there's gonna be a tape delay with the US broadcast.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/94478-bellator-mma-vs-rizin

In some sites it says Rizin 40 starts at Dec 31 at 4:00am ET then it's immediately followed by Bellator vs Rizin event.  It's prolly going to be a couple of hours after.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/94453-rizin-40

So yeah...  Since the event is held in Japan, it makes sense.  Rizin 40 gonna start late in the afternoon in Japan around 5:00pm and Bellator vs Rizin around 7:00pm - 8:00pm of Dec 31.

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December 26, 2022, 08:36:22 PM
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but on stake.com it has a date of the 30th
Stake made a miStake, and it rhymes very nice  Grin
Maybe they are accepting bets until this time and later they are taking a break for holiday times.
I always get confused with all different time zones and you need to check several times to be sure when some event start exactly.
There was one cool website for MMA with countdown timers, but they shut it down sadly.

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December 30, 2022, 01:50:52 PM
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So it looks like they like their MMA around after lunch in Japan.  Lol.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/94453-rizin-40

So it looks like the real schedule is set.  Rizin 40 starts at 12:00am ET, so that's 1:00pm in Japan.  And since it's a 9 bout event, that's gonna last around three hours making Bellator vs Rizin event start around 4:00pm in Japan.  

And good news, there's a betting market for all 9 bouts.  Smiley

https://stake.com/sports/mma/rizin-ff/rizin-40

I don't know who these guys are but I think we could be +EV to parlay most of these favorites together into two legs each.

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