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[tokeweed]

Possible good spots for underdogs in Bellator 290.  Now don't bet on this without digging for a little more info and a little bit of tape study at MMA Core.  These are all at first glance just by looking at the lines and their Tapology profiles.  Here goes...

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Again not sure about it as favorites usually win in Bellator.  But telling you guys anyway for the bragging rights.  

Fun parlay could be Gracie, Eblen then gambol on Bader.  That should be a good sweat vs Fedor.

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[YuginKadoya]

We got Bellator 290 later, and I think I will make my picks and prediction for some fights so here it is,

Bellator MMA Heavyweight Championship

Ryan Bader VS Fedor Emelianenko

The stake odds for this fight are 1.28 for Bader and 3.40 for Emelianenko, for this match Bader is doing well so far he might have a zebra pattern record but the 2 consecutive wins he got are likely great matchups, while I am doubting Emelianenko surely got those 1 hit KO punch but he can also be in danger with those punch as well because Bader can surely wind up a great strike that can knock out Fedor Emelianenko, for this fight, I am really Doubting Emelianenko's age he is 46 now, and just like Glover Texeira this could surely end up bad for Fedor Emelianenko, so my pick will be Ryan Bader,

Bellator MMA Middleweight Championship

Johnny Eblen VS Anatoly Tokov

The stake odds for this fight are 1.34 for Edlen and 3.00 for Tokov, for this fight, Edlen is really sensational with a record of no loss but his recent winnings were all decisions I guess Edlen reach advantage can surely make Tokov pressured with that, this is the Middleweight so there will be some technicality in it and Edlen is sure to have that for me my pick is Johnny Edlen,

Henry Corrales VS Akhmed Magomedov

The stake odds for this fight are 4.50 for Corrales and 1.17 for Magomed, for this fight both fighters sure have decent wrestling but Akhmed Magomedov has the superior one Dagestan Wrestling so for me there is no 2nd thought on that my pick for this fight is Akhmed Magomedov,

[TopTort777]

The disadvantage of Bader is that he is very straightforward. Everyone knows what he will do. Surprisingly he did no use his wrestling skills much  (he was very good during university, even got top places on national tournaments. such skill does not evaporate), but has switched to striking when he moved to Bellator from UFC.

I think the fight would end Bader by TKO. Fedor cant lose his habit of keeping hand close to belly and throwing unexpected punches. Such tactics  worked when he was younger. Now reflexes are not as used to be. Due to that he will miss a punch from Bader (not exactly accented punch or strong one), gets dazed and dropped down, and it will be a finish. The fight wont pass to second round. Fedor lately was never good for stamina, while Bader, if you look on score cards, often takes fifth rounds. Which means his tank is huge.

[notblox1]

The disadvantage of Bader is that he is very straightforward. Everyone knows what he will do. Surprisingly he did no use his wrestling skills much  (he was very good during university, even got top places on national tournaments. such skill does not evaporate), but has switched to striking when he moved to Bellator from UFC.

Call me crazy but I just made a bet on Fedor to win by KO or submission.
I don't see any value in betting on Bader with this odds and I can get big return if Fedor wins.
When heavyweight fighters like this fight it takes one strong punch to change everything, but I think Fedor learned a lot from his first fight with Bader.
Bellator prelims are starting soon and I think they are broadcasting some fights for free on youtube channel.

[seoincorporation]

Call me crazy but I just made a bet on Fedor to win by KO or submission.
I don't see any value in betting on Bader with this odds and I can get big return if Fedor wins.
When heavyweight fighters like this fight it takes one strong punch to change everything, but I think Fedor learned a lot from his first fight with Bader.
Bellator prelims are starting soon and I think they are broadcasting some fights for free on youtube channel.

You are not crazy, since this is the last fight from Fedor is a wise move to bet on him, I know it will be a fight hard to win, but we know how crazy MMA is and how anything can happen, so, I still thinking Fedor is a good bet.

And you are right, the event is now on youtube:

Prelims: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yISlhATIySQ
Main Card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFvbvB8s-jc

I hope you all enjoy the event and win your bets. I already watched a couple of fights and the event is looking good.

[YuginKadoya]

The disadvantage of Bader is that he is very straightforward. Everyone knows what he will do. Surprisingly he did no use his wrestling skills much  (he was very good during university, even got top places on national tournaments. such skill does not evaporate), but has switched to striking when he moved to Bellator from UFC.

I think the fight would end Bader by TKO. Fedor cant lose his habit of keeping hand close to belly and throwing unexpected punches. Such tactics  worked when he was younger. Now reflexes are not as used to be. Due to that he will miss a punch from Bader (not exactly accented punch or strong one), gets dazed and dropped down, and it will be a finish. The fight wont pass to second round. Fedor lately was never good for stamina, while Bader, if you look on score cards, often takes fifth rounds. Which means his tank is huge.

Well, you are right about it and right now Bader has won against the old Fedor Emelianenko and this is the last fight for the Legendary Fedor Emelianenko as he announce retirement with Bellator, the last emperor last walk looks very old now for me seeing him inside the ring with Ryan Bader I could really sense from that point of view who's going to win, Fedor Emelianenko wants to be the oldest champion if he wins this and at the same time wants to retire at the same time, just vacating that belt but Ryan Bader doesn't wants his reputation to be tarnish by Fedor Emelianenko's desire, finishing the old last emperor with a takedown ground and pound on the 1st round,


Here are the result for my picks for Bellator 290: Bader vs. Emelianenko 2

Ryan Bader VS Fedor Emelianenko ROUND 1 KO/TKO - WIN

Father time is not really kind to Fedor Emelianenko you can see that Emelianenko now struggles with his balance, but like what I have seen with what is happening to Glover Texeira their age has caught up to them, and there is no stopping the process of getting old, Emelianenko got out the balance with Dark Bader's punches and you can surely see that Fedor Emelianenko really can't keep up with The Dark Bader ending the fight with a bloodied emperor,

Johnny Eblen VS Anatoly Tokov ROUND 5 DECISION - WIN

What a Performance for Johnny Eblen securing his 1st title defense it was a unanimous decision victory, and you can see in the 1st round Eblen is pressuring Tokov in the corner, and with Precision strikes from Johnny Eblen those punches were accurate you will know that he was not throwing random punches and the judges were all for him in this fight,

Henry Corrales VS Akhmed Magomedov ROUND 3 DECISION - LOST

Well, the only loss that I get in this card, and I thought that the undefeated will still finish his fight unscathed but Henry Corrales got a great takedown defense and Henry Corrales surely is using his height and weight advantage so he could not be taken down by Magomedov, that is why he had doubted himself if he can takedown Corrales, and I have noticed that Akhmed Magomedov looks weak side by side with Henry Corrales, so for me, he needs to build more muscle or even strength because that is the way to win against guys with great takedown defense, you need to mull them with your strength,

[cygan]

in one week the oktagon #39 event will take place in munich/germany.
then the lightweight champion 'black panther' Losene Keita, who is still undefeated after his fight against the best slovak stand-up champion Milan Paleš, returns to the cage.
making his debut at oktagon is elite fighter Niklas Stolze, who has been fighting in the ufc champions league for the last 2 years.
the main welterweight fight will be contested by the crowd favorite 'the kelt* Christian Jungwirth and the brazilian Neves Denilson De Oliveira.

[Erumo]

Like someone has expected other outcome from Fedor Emelianenko vs Ryan Bader fight. That is a naturel outcome of a fight between an old fighter against much younger. Age takes its all. You cant expect to be the same at 30 years and at 45 years. No matter how hard you work, no matter if you die in the gym, the age will be your only opponent against a younger and hungry fighter. Fedor must have ended his fighting career when he has changed his path from sport to politics. Wikipedia says that he is now a deputy, a coach and active professional fighter. A person cant be good at everything. Either choose something one, or be satisfied with average results.

[bittraffic]

Like someone has expected other outcome from Fedor Emelianenko vs Ryan Bader fight. That is a naturel outcome of a fight between an old fighter against much younger. Age takes its all. You cant expect to be the same at 30 years and at 45 years. No matter how hard you work, no matter if you die in the gym, the age will be your only opponent against a younger and hungry fighter. Fedor must have ended his fighting career when he has changed his path from sport to politics. Wikipedia says that he is now a deputy, a coach and active professional fighter. A person cant be good at everything. Either choose something one, or be satisfied with average results.

Fedor was at some point the greatest during his prime. This is the first MMA fighter that made me interested in the sport, people are shouting his name in every corner. But yep there is always an end to everything. It does look like he easily got out of balance and then the whole round is just on the ground. Even if you are capable of outsmarting an opponent, age prevents it physically.

It's like a ritual ceremony just when he announced his retirement. The names surrounding him are the few that I remember.

[YuginKadoya]

Like someone has expected other outcome from Fedor Emelianenko vs Ryan Bader fight. That is a naturel outcome of a fight between an old fighter against much younger. Age takes its all. You cant expect to be the same at 30 years and at 45 years. No matter how hard you work, no matter if you die in the gym, the age will be your only opponent against a younger and hungry fighter. Fedor must have ended his fighting career when he has changed his path from sport to politics. Wikipedia says that he is now a deputy, a coach and active professional fighter. A person cant be good at everything. Either choose something one, or be satisfied with average results.

Well, Fedor Emelianenko has surely used his time well in doing many things in his career not only with MMA but with some we surely are surprised to know about him, but in those years pass his strength is surely depleted and at some point, he will need to stop one career at a time that he can not hold anymore, and MMA fighting is the 1st one to go, surely Fedor Emelianenko was a great fighter for most audiences calling his name while he is going in the octagon, but that was his prime days because right now that prime days can not be replay again, this is the sad truth about getting old, but we will surely remember those years when he is winning inside the octagon, surely hs fans will miss that,

Fedor was at some point the greatest during his prime. This is the first MMA fighter that made me interested in the sport, people are shouting his name in every corner. But yep there is always an end to everything. It does look like he easily got out of balance and then the whole round is just on the ground. Even if you are capable of outsmarting an opponent, age prevents it physically.

It's like a ritual ceremony just when he announced his retirement. The names surrounding him are the few that I remember.

At some point, Fedor Emelianenko and his fans will surely remember at some point when Emelianenko was fighting his winning moments and his prime, there is no shame in losing this actually Fedor Emelianenko needs to be proud at that age he fights Dark Bader at some point in his life was he can not balance when landing a punch because that is what I see from him, we all know he will surely throw punches out of nowhere and at some point without any relatively any technical meaning to it, that way of fighting is not suit to his age now if he wants to win a belt in his age he needs to get advise from Glover Teixeira,

[tokeweed]

Here are the result for my picks for Bellator 290: Bader vs. Emelianenko 2

Ryan Bader VS Fedor Emelianenko ROUND 1 KO/TKO - WIN

Father time is not really kind to Fedor Emelianenko you can see that Emelianenko now struggles with his balance, but like what I have seen with what is happening to Glover Texeira their age has caught up to them, and there is no stopping the process of getting old, Emelianenko got out the balance with Dark Bader's punches and you can surely see that Fedor Emelianenko really can't keep up with The Dark Bader ending the fight with a bloodied emperor,

Johnny Eblen VS Anatoly Tokov ROUND 5 DECISION - WIN

What a Performance for Johnny Eblen securing his 1st title defense it was a unanimous decision victory, and you can see in the 1st round Eblen is pressuring Tokov in the corner, and with Precision strikes from Johnny Eblen those punches were accurate you will know that he was not throwing random punches and the judges were all for him in this fight,

Henry Corrales VS Akhmed Magomedov ROUND 3 DECISION - LOST

Well, the only loss that I get in this card, and I thought that the undefeated will still finish his fight unscathed but Henry Corrales got a great takedown defense and Henry Corrales surely is using his height and weight advantage so he could not be taken down by Magomedov, that is why he had doubted himself if he can takedown Corrales, and I have noticed that Akhmed Magomedov looks weak side by side with Henry Corrales, so for me, he needs to build more muscle or even strength because that is the way to win against guys with great takedown defense, you need to mull them with your strength,

Yup, I thought Fedor had somewhat of a chance before the event.  Lol.  Like Lewis I feel like they're just out there to fight and treating it more like a job and as a way to earn money now rather than going out there for the glory and the W then somehow getting a title shot.  I guess it comes with age.

Henry Corrales on the other hand, schooled Magomedov and showed him what's what.  I think the line was something over 3 to 1.  Bellator events used to have most of the favorites winning.  Now it looks like the books aren't as sharp as they used to.  Could be good to start paying more attention to it.

[Erumo]

Like someone has expected other outcome from Fedor Emelianenko vs Ryan Bader fight. That is a naturel outcome of a fight between an old fighter against much younger. Age takes its all. You cant expect to be the same at 30 years and at 45 years. No matter how hard you work, no matter if you die in the gym, the age will be your only opponent against a younger and hungry fighter. Fedor must have ended his fighting career when he has changed his path from sport to politics. Wikipedia says that he is now a deputy, a coach and active professional fighter. A person cant be good at everything. Either choose something one, or be satisfied with average results.

Fedor was at some point the greatest during his prime. This is the first MMA fighter that made me interested in the sport, people are shouting his name in every corner. But yep there is always an end to everything. It does look like he easily got out of balance and then the whole round is just on the ground. Even if you are capable of outsmarting an opponent, age prevents it physically.

It's like a ritual ceremony just when he announced his retirement. The names surrounding him are the few that I remember.

Wont it be better to end career with a victory or have an exhibition fight? Instead of challenging current champion and get face smashed? Perhaps his plan was to win, get heavy weight belt and retire as a champion. Imho Fedor Emelianenko has chosen wrong opponent to put a dot and end his career. If we look on Fedors opponents, then it is obvious, that he has a high win rate against huge and heavy opponents, and low win rate against smaller but quick opponents or formed light heavy weight (Dan Henderson, Ryan Bader - they were all light heavy weights). Fedors trick was speed of a light weight and power of a heavy weight. With that he has beaten everyone in his past. But as soon as he faced someone whos speed matches his, he has lost. Lost to Werdum - Werdum has a black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and it helped him to win. Lost to Silva - Silva was better, more lucky, more prepared. Lost to Mitrione - Fedor got old. Lost to Bader - even more old and Bader is a former light heavy weight.

[YuginKadoya]

Yup, I thought Fedor had somewhat of a chance before the event.  Lol.  Like Lewis I feel like they're just out there to fight and treating it more like a job and as a way to earn money now rather than going out there for the glory and the W then somehow getting a title shot.  I guess it comes with age.

Henry Corrales on the other hand, schooled Magomedov and showed him what's what.  I think the line was something over 3 to 1.  Bellator events used to have most of the favorites winning.  Now it looks like the books aren't as sharp as they used to.  Could be good to start paying more attention to it.

At 1st I think that Fedor Emelianenko could have had a good fight with Ryan Dark Bader but seeing Fedor Emelianenko stepping inside the octagon I have said to myself why he is still fighting, he is not the Fedor Emelianenko back in 2021 fight with Timothy Johnson was really epic and he is a different fighter back then I guess 1 year not showing himself inside the ring have some effects on him aswell and combining it with his age, surely Ringrust plus Age definitely take a toll on Fedor Emelianenko,

Magomedov doesn't have the strength in pushing Henry Corrales into takedowns and the guy was way bigger than Akhmed Magomedov you can surely see the strength and height advantage so Akhmed Magomedov would surely think very frustrated not getting Corrales in his takedowns, this surely stop his tracks in getting those takedowns, and begin in the standup which is not really helpful because Henry Corrales is one step ahead of Akhmed Magomedov,

Wont it be better to end career with a victory or have an exhibition fight? Instead of challenging current champion and get face smashed? Perhaps his plan was to win, get heavy weight belt and retire as a champion. Imho Fedor Emelianenko has chosen wrong opponent to put a dot and end his career. If we look on Fedors opponents, then it is obvious, that he has a high win rate against huge and heavy opponents, and low win rate against smaller but quick opponents or formed light heavy weight (Dan Henderson, Ryan Bader - they were all light heavy weights). Fedors trick was speed of a light weight and power of a heavy weight. With that he has beaten everyone in his past. But as soon as he faced someone whos speed matches his, he has lost. Lost to Werdum - Werdum has a black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and it helped him to win. Lost to Silva - Silva was better, more lucky, more prepared. Lost to Mitrione - Fedor got old. Lost to Bader - even more old and Bader is a former light heavy weight.

Didn't you see their age difference it was 10 years, and surely enough Ryan Bader is one big dude to tackle even though he is a Light Heavyweight back then he gained weight to make himself look bigger, I really think there is nothing to do with the size but the performance you can see that Ryan Bader is too fast and too accurate while Fedor is just too old, he wobbles every time Bader landed a strike, those punches of Fedor is not the same Ryan Bader could easily read them and just like you have said Ryan Bader is once a Light Heavyweight so he got the speed, well, it is just Fedor Emelianenko was now to slow and too old to handle those speed,

[notblox1]

Yup, I thought Fedor had somewhat of a chance before the event.  Lol.  Like Lewis I feel like they're just out there to fight and treating it more like a job and as a way to earn money now rather than going out there for the glory and the W then somehow getting a title shot.  I guess it comes with age.

I thought the same, but Bader was better and after the fight Fedor was happiest I ever saw him
He is a true legend and one of the best heavyweight fighters ever, and Dana White putting shit stickers on him now means nothing.
I am really starting to avoid listening to all the shit coming out from his mouth, but it's not easy, first Ngannou, now Fedor, who is next?
Every champion that left UFC is not talking with Dana, people should ask why is this happening?

[Erumo]

Wont it be better to end career with a victory or have an exhibition fight? Instead of challenging current champion and get face smashed? Perhaps his plan was to win, get heavy weight belt and retire as a champion. Imho Fedor Emelianenko has chosen wrong opponent to put a dot and end his career. If we look on Fedors opponents, then it is obvious, that he has a high win rate against huge and heavy opponents, and low win rate against smaller but quick opponents or formed light heavy weight (Dan Henderson, Ryan Bader - they were all light heavy weights). Fedors trick was speed of a light weight and power of a heavy weight. With that he has beaten everyone in his past. But as soon as he faced someone whos speed matches his, he has lost. Lost to Werdum - Werdum has a black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and it helped him to win. Lost to Silva - Silva was better, more lucky, more prepared. Lost to Mitrione - Fedor got old. Lost to Bader - even more old and Bader is a former light heavy weight.

Didn't you see their age difference it was 10 years, and surely enough Ryan Bader is one big dude to tackle even though he is a Light Heavyweight back then he gained weight to make himself look bigger, I really think there is nothing to do with the size but the performance you can see that Ryan Bader is too fast and too accurate while Fedor is just too old, he wobbles every time Bader landed a strike, those punches of Fedor is not the same Ryan Bader could easily read them and just like you have said Ryan Bader is once a Light Heavyweight so he got the speed, well, it is just Fedor Emelianenko was now to slow and too old to handle those speed,

Ryan Bader isnt a kid either, that can drink whole night, unload whole truck of heavy stuff, take 2h sleep and go to gym next day fresh and recovered. We would better find out why Ryan Bader turned from Light Heavyweight into a guy who was just 1 kg lighter than Fedor. Such extra weight can be obtained either by stupidly eating more, or by supplements. I know that at Bellator, they dont check fighters as detailed as UFC does. So maybe that was the trick why we see ryan so quick lately. I can also agree with Fedor being old for this sport, and on Ryans backround, he looked double old and slow.

[Apocollapse]

There's One fight night event 7 in the upcoming next 4 days, it's a rematch between Lineker vs Andrade, the first fight was end for no contest because Andrade accidentally striking Lineker's groin. But if we see the fight Lineker is dominating the fight, so Andrade need to prove if he is already learn from the first fight. Although there's a huge difference about the experience between Lineker and Andrade, Lineker have fight for 45 matches while Andrade only 11 matches.



ONE Fight Night 7 Quick Card:

Linda Darrow  vs.  Victória Souza 115 lbs
Uali Kurzhev  vs.  Tommy Langaker 170 lbs
Adrian Mattheis  vs.  Zelangzhaxi 125 lbs
John Lineker  vs.  F. de Andrade 145 lbs
T. PK Saenchai  vs.  Jamal Yusupov 155 lbs
Martin Nguyen  vs.  Shamil Gasanov 155 lbs
Danielle Kelly  vs.  Ayaka Miura 119 lbs
Eko Roni Saputra  vs.  Danny Kingad 135 lbs
S. Fairtex  vs.  ChengLong Zhang 145 lbs
Andrei Stoica  vs.  Francesco Xhaja 265 lbs

Source: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/94524-one-on-prime-video-7

[yazher]

I thought the same, but Bader was better and after the fight Fedor was happiest I ever saw him
He is a true legend and one of the best heavyweight fighters ever, and Dana White putting shit stickers on him now means nothing.
I am really starting to avoid listening to all the shit coming out from his mouth, but it's not easy, first Ngannou, now Fedor, who is next?
Every champion that left UFC is not talking with Dana, people should ask why is this happening?

They are brave enough to leave the world of money to pursue their dream to be the strongest and are glad it pays out well for both of them. They don't really need Dana's influence they can make their own names with their talent and since they know there are lots of disadvantages to being in the UFC and they quickly act against it until they get out of it, the other fighters should really consider doing the right thing for themselves if they don't want to be shackled in the UFC with Dana getting more money from them than they getting money as they put their health in the lines when fighting inside the Octagon.

[TopTort777]

Cant agree that Fedor is leaving "world of money". First - money never interested him much. Second - wikipedia says he got only 100k bucks for that fight (Bador got 150k). Cant say that these are biggest money I've seen in MMA. I think close to top UFC fighters get similar payment for a fight. I am speaking about top3-top6 fighters of any weight class.  I think for a fighter of his class, popularity, fame, he must have been paid more. But we have what we have. As to Bader - I think he is having bigger and easier money than he had in UFC.

[bittraffic]

Fedor only got $100k is unbelievable. Seem worse than UFC pay. UFC AFAIKA, one can get $250,000 a fight.
But why do they prefer to be with Bellator I guess they just don't want to be under Dana anymore. Several fighters before Ngannou expressed their dissatisfaction with thier contract negotiation.

I think with Bellator, the fighters are free to promote stuff on thier shirt/trunk which they can make money from it.

[notblox1]

Fedor only got $100k is unbelievable. Seem worse than UFC pay. UFC AFAIKA, one can get $250,000 a fight.
But why do they prefer to be with Bellator I guess they just don't want to be under Dana anymore. Several fighters before Ngannou expressed their dissatisfaction with thier contract negotiation.

Fedor winning $100k only for this fight and I think Bader won $150k for the same fight.
Bader confirmed that he was paid 8 or 9 times better in Bellator than he was paid in UFC, and other fighters confirmed that.
So no, UFC is not paying their fighters better, except Connor McGreggor that is allowed to do everything, do boxing, have it's own sponsor, break stuff.
Other fighters are not allowed to do that, and most of the many in UFC is kept by Dana and his frens.
https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/2/6/23588238/ryan-bader-scoffs-at-disclosed-bellator-290-pay-says-he-makes-8-9-times-more-than-he-did-in-ufc