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November 05, 2019, 05:11:36 AM
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actually like that, because most projects today are ending in fraud. if investors focus more on exchanges rather than developing project products because investors worry about the money they invest in projects, besides that many products do not develop properly. so if the ico project is completed and has been listed on the stock exchange at least the investor is not worried about selling their investment if the token already has its own exchange.

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November 05, 2019, 05:15:10 AM
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Basically the investors want their profit of return immediatelly so if there is a project announce will soon listed to the exchange then they will so excited to wait so mostly they have no patience to wait a little longer because postpone projects usually makes them worried the projects will never appears to the exchange and i think this is the caused too why the current investors are more likely to interested joining the projects which already listing to an exchange

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November 05, 2019, 05:52:10 AM
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ICO investors are more passionate about exchanges than product development for several reasons including, if the project token has its own exchange, investors don't have to wait long to sell tokens when the project is complete and investors prefer short-term profits rather than taking risks with projects that focus on development product. because almost 80% ICO failed in product development.

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November 05, 2019, 05:54:20 AM
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Their investment is tied to price on exchange to me I feel if a project has collected ICOs or IEOs funds, they should deliver on their promises and return value to investors money the reason why investors are  more interested in exchange than project development.
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November 05, 2019, 06:50:59 AM
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This is the reality nowadays, but I don't know if you agree or not.

As what I have observed since last year, lots of ICO investors are more excited and making some noise when a crypto startup announced that they will be listed in some exchanges.

I have browsed a lot of Telegram groups coming from various ICOs, IEOs and other forms of token sales. When they announce their partnership with a "XXX" company or they have launched their v2.0 of their product, it seems that the community are kind of less impressed and not excited about that.

Last year, there's an ICO where until now, they haven't listed in an exchange as they focused more on product development. It's like almost 2 years and they haven't listed their token yet in exchanges but they only give us a quarterly report on what they're doing with the product. It results for most investors to become impatient and demand their money back or getting listed to exchanges at least.

This is what I've been observing for now, the behavior of most investors who are expecting their returns or gains after the ICO is complete. What do you say guys? Agree with this or not?



New exchange market can increase of ICO coin price and new product adoption by an ICO coin do not give impact for altcoin price, many investor are excited when hear new update for ICO announcement with listing on new exchange market, they will happy waiting for and make price will increase higher, moreover ICO team announce for listing with big exchange market like Kucoin.
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November 05, 2019, 09:49:58 AM
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Basically the investors want their profit of return immediatelly so if there is a project announce will soon listed to the exchange then they will so excited to wait so mostly they have no patience to wait a little longer because postpone projects usually makes them worried the projects will never appears to the exchange and i think this is the caused too why the current investors are more likely to interested joining the projects which already listing to an exchange
True, investors want their money back quickly. well, it shouldn't be difficult to list on the market exchange if the ico is (let's say) success.
whereas the project also has nothing to lose, right? the project already get enough money from investors to develop their products.
and yes, investors currently prefer projects that are already listed on the market (at least there are guarantees available in the market) rather than having to wait for obscurity from the project team

the market is part of traders and investors.
I myself am also confused why many project teams always postpone market listing despite the big opportunity. what are they afraid hmmmm.... (I don't quite understand either) maybe they already spent all the investor money for party (we don't know that)  Grin

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November 05, 2019, 10:32:24 AM
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This is the reality nowadays, but I don't know if you agree or not.

As what I have observed since last year, lots of ICO investors are more excited and making some noise when a crypto startup announced that they will be listed in some exchanges.

I have browsed a lot of Telegram groups coming from various ICOs, IEOs and other forms of token sales. When they announce their partnership with a "XXX" company or they have launched their v2.0 of their product, it seems that the community are kind of less impressed and not excited about that.

Last year, there's an ICO where until now, they haven't listed in an exchange as they focused more on product development. It's like almost 2 years and they haven't listed their token yet in exchanges but they only give us a quarterly report on what they're doing with the product. It results for most investors to become impatient and demand their money back or getting listed to exchanges at least.

This is what I've been observing for now, the behavior of most investors who are expecting their returns or gains after the ICO is complete. What do you say guys? Agree with this or not?




In my opinion, large exchangers will be in demand by investors because they provide large liquidity making it easier for them to carry out buying and selling transactions. Coins that are listed in large exchangers for investors will look legit because it is not easy listing in large exchangers because it is through strict verification

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November 05, 2019, 10:39:50 AM
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This is the reality nowadays, but I don't know if you agree or not.

As what I have observed since last year, lots of ICO investors are more excited and making some noise when a crypto startup announced that they will be listed in some exchanges.

I have browsed a lot of Telegram groups coming from various ICOs, IEOs and other forms of token sales. When they announce their partnership with a "XXX" company or they have launched their v2.0 of their product, it seems that the community are kind of less impressed and not excited about that.

Last year, there's an ICO where until now, they haven't listed in an exchange as they focused more on product development. It's like almost 2 years and they haven't listed their token yet in exchanges but they only give us a quarterly report on what they're doing with the product. It results for most investors to become impatient and demand their money back or getting listed to exchanges at least.

This is what I've been observing for now, the behavior of most investors who are expecting their returns or gains after the ICO is complete. What do you say guys? Agree with this or not?


I agree and I'm one of those who wants to see the token I've invested and promote in a good exchange, this is the purpose why people are investing in a token they want to see how good it will perform in the market, platform and exchange are two things that you cannot separate, so expect people to ask for exchanges.

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November 05, 2019, 11:21:57 AM
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I agree with you since the exchange price listing is one of the key to know if the project will be successful or not, what product are you expecting from a project whose price have dropped over 500% from the ico price when listed or traded on the exchange ?

Product development is secondary since most ico presale are interested in dumping some of the coin they bought at high discounted price and move to another project, exchange listing shall bring happiness to them.
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November 05, 2019, 06:38:35 PM
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I totally agree with you. ICO investors are treating ICOs as investment opportunities rather than projects that they will actually support. Investors are looking for a simple and quick profit without minding what the company wants to do and what they will achieve for the future.
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November 06, 2019, 04:45:33 AM
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I am not saying that investor does not have the right to their money, but since the project is already giving them update on what they are doing, I think that the best thing would have been for them to be more patient with them, because establishing a project is really not an easy task and you see many of them that has rushed into an exchange, they have rushed out too when they got whales that were already waiting to dump the project on them.

If they enter an exchange now, and a big whale that has bought many of the coin dump the coin, would they not loose, so it is better that the project rather develop to the fullest and make their product known worldwide so that even when they experience dump, the project product would have already be speaking for them.
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November 06, 2019, 06:05:40 AM
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That one is even fair, I know of a project that raised over $7 million in their presale for almost 2 years now and has refused to even conduct an ICO or IEO, instead they use the raised funds to develop their perform, the platform developement is almost complete but the keep postponing the sale up till today.

Sometimes it's not that investors are more interested in exchanges than development but the fact remains that nobody likes their funds ties up for years without any way to liquidate the tokens they were given.

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November 06, 2019, 06:13:47 PM
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I do not agree with you. Currently, ICOs are losing interest among investors, most ICOs are worthless and there are many scammers around it.
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November 22, 2019, 03:35:59 PM
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This statement its not far from the truth.  I have also discovered that the news of new exchange listing drives more FOMO than that of mainnet or product development.  This issue can be traced back to 2018 durring the bearish market many investors bought tokens based on the product the project had to offer but on the long run they end up lossing big time due to dump in price,  most investors now learnt a big lesson from those incident and most are now just after the profit an ICO can yield and not the product development. But for crypto to gain more adoption and move to mainstream investors need to stop seeing crypto as only a profit venture but look at the real solution it can offer

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November 22, 2019, 03:55:49 PM
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if the investor asks the project to register the market list because they have funds for the project, and that is one of their rights. and when the market list is available they will find out whether their funds are safe or there is a decrease in funds (loss). when it happens they must be complaining because the price is not in accordance with the price when they invest, if the Developer does his job well that is able to make their real platform work and attract market investors then the price of the token can be offset but what happens a lot is the opposite in my mind Developers are unable hold the project when the sale ends

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November 22, 2019, 04:08:28 PM
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What use of their collect a hardcap and then didnt listing their token to any good exchanges. Projects that collect a lots of fund and didnt use it correctly most likely will vanished asap after they get the money from ieos or icos. Atleast when the token get listing in the exchanges some might can sell the token and make a fast profit from it.
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November 22, 2019, 04:18:28 PM
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Basically the investors want their profit of return immediatelly so if there is a project announce will soon listed to the exchange then they will so excited to wait so mostly they have no patience to wait a little longer because postpone projects usually makes them worried the projects will never appears to the exchange and i think this is the caused too why the current investors are more likely to interested joining the projects which already listing to an exchange
True, investors want their money back quickly. well, it shouldn't be difficult to list on the market exchange if the ico is (let's say) success.
whereas the project also has nothing to lose, right? the project already get enough money from investors to develop their products.
and yes, investors currently prefer projects that are already listed on the market (at least there are guarantees available in the market) rather than having to wait for obscurity from the project team

the market is part of traders and investors.
I myself am also confused why many project teams always postpone market listing despite the big opportunity. what are they afraid hmmmm.... (I don't quite understand either) maybe they already spent all the investor money for party (we don't know that)  Grin
You must know that getting listed into exchange requires massive amount of money even I heard that listing in exchange like binance takes millions. ICO currently have a rough time gaining investor and recklessly spending money for that is an unwise decision because it could take up all the allocation for the project development. It's like they got sandwiched, you spend money for listing your project will potentially running out of funds but if you don't spend money on listing people will rage over the project and ended up losing the investors. everything is just not as easy as it may look and yeah there are some dumbass developers that use money for party aswell ofcourse that is out of the question.

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November 22, 2019, 04:22:39 PM
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Of course the investor also needs to receive the profit he or she must earn, and the bounty hunter to receive the pay of their hard-earned work.
So now we see what the investor and bounty hunter need in the immediate exchange, which we can now see in IEO or Initial Exchange Offering.
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November 22, 2019, 04:30:38 PM
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I agree with you since the exchange price listing is one of the key to know if the project will be successful or not, what product are you expecting from a project whose price have dropped over 500% from the ico price when listed or traded on the exchange ?

Product development is secondary since most ico presale are interested in dumping some of the coin they bought at high discounted price and move to another project, exchange listing shall bring happiness to them.
it means you disagree with OP opinion. read the post carefully


Exchange is important, development is important too.
remember that tokens/ coins wont have value if it doesnt have any good development. "who will buy shitcoin"
IMO many people more excited with exchange just because of "hype"

 
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November 25, 2019, 04:36:32 PM
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Well, they are right in some ways if you check. Any product that is not listed on an exchange is less likely to succeed.
Investors need something that they can trade at any time they want and when a product is not listed on an exchange it doesn't grow, so they are not going to still waste time with it.

You can take yourself as an example, I don't think you will like to be pouring thousands of dollars on a project that is not going to make you any profit. When things are not working you are sure going to quit and switch to something different, unless you're just someone that likes being a loser and losing your money on things that don't make any sense.
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