Red Trust Manager?

[suchmoon]

The pharmacist says he is legit, suchmoon says he is not to be trusted. Yahoo says he is ok too. :/ Too many different opinions...

Thanks for triggering my Maggiordomo alert, let me explain.

I think my rating on Wapinter is factual and has a proper reference. Read the linked thread and decide for yourselves what the risks are, don't just look at the red and green numbers. That applies to all trust ratings and flags. The trust system is there to help you make decisions, not to make decisions for you.

[bassbity]

@Wapinter is the best manager and has managed the bounty for a long time, many bounties have successfully paid for it, and I think if the @Wapinter account is Red Trush but he still gives the best to the participants, it means that he does not cheat in managing the bounty.
But unfortunately I have not seen the bounty launched by him.

[Ashong Salonga]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?
if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

and frankly like @Wapinter

Depends on the reason why they were tagged in the first place. If the tag is simply not correlated nor related to the project he's handling then there is no reason why not to give a shot. I'm not supporting it but we shouldn't judge them falsely. Although we can't put out that they aren't worth to be trusted, we still can't deny to consider evaluating them first.

[efxtrader]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?
if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

and frankly like @Wapinter

Wapinter is one of the bounty managers who has been around for a long time and is trusted by many bounty hunters. In my opinion, Red Trust depends on the mistakes made and sometimes the Red Trust giver is also not free from mistakes and they give red trust based only on assumptions.

[Aabcde]

Red trust is given because someone violates or commits an act that is not good. Whether it's cheaters, scammers, fraudsters, or others. There are many reasons for this, of course, sometimes the reasons are less grounded. Because everyone can give red trust even though the mistake is not too fatal.
I once participated in the bounty Wapinter, I think he is a person who can carry out his duties as a manager well, yes even though sometimes there are projects that are delayed but that is not his fault.
Everyone can change, but the sign of the red trust never disappears even though he has done his best. So judge according to how he treats you not from what others say.

[asriloni]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?
if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

and frankly like @Wapinter

That depends on the case that has already made the bounty manager was getting red-trust. But it looks like that problem that has already obtained by him (wapinter) was a severe problem and that guy is having a bad image. what you need to do to see what was the accusations that already written for him.
Red trust means symbolize bad image but not every time that will bring someone to the wrong image.
As far as I know that even some shillers are not doing something wrong (based on my opinion) also got red-trust.
But as per wapinter's trust summary and I don't believe him as well as all of the accusations for wapinter was about running scam project

[ajiz138]

Red Trush will indeed greatly affect the confidence of participants in the bounty manager. when the wapinter still didn't have Red Trush many followed the project. But after the Wapinter was given the Red Trush, some bounty hunters no longer believed in the project he was managing. But not all projects managed are problematic, there are some projects that are successful and proven to pay bounty hunters. Maybe it was an unintentional mistake made by the Wapinter, so getting a Red Trush.

[Google+]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?
if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

and frankly like @Wapinter

there is indeed a sense of curiosity about the bounty manager who has the red trust, but for the bounty manager wapinter I think it can still be trusted even though some projects can be successful but it is not the fault of the bounty manager because he only runs his job whereas when the project is scam then it is a mistake of its founder.

[aioc]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?
if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

and frankly like @Wapinter

It depends on how did they got that red trust if they've got it from scamming bounty hunters, then he is not worthy of trust by bounty hunters, but if it is because of the work of the project that he is working on that he has no control of, then that trust means nothing to me, bounty managers has no control of the works of developers.

[watergold]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?
if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

and frankly like @Wapinter

It depends on how did they got that red trust if they've got it from scamming bounty hunters, then he is not worthy of trust by bounty hunters, but if it is because of the work of the project that he is working on that he has no control of, then that trust means nothing to me, bounty managers has no control of the works of developers.

I think the Wapinter has never deceived the hunters by paying the participants always to be paid in a timely manner, a lot of the green reputation earned by the Wapinter means that it is still trusted by many people, rest assured that he is a professional manager like his other managers.

[TGD]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?
if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

and frankly like @Wapinter

If an account is tag with a red trust often means that account should not be trusted or apply caution when dealing with the account but sometimes not all accounts with a red trust are untrusted because such accounts have equally done so many good things to over shadow the red tag, some red tag account did not actually scam anyone or something of that nature but maybe for other reasons,
My point is, just because an account has a red tag don't necessarily mean that account is bad, especially the example you gave above,  wapinta has handle so many good bounty as well as some bad ones,  there is nothing wrong in participating in his bounty.

Most accurate explanation so far. Most people view red tag as scam but in reality, trust feedback here is not only for scam. Some DT giving negative feedback based on there own perspective on what is wrong although trust feedback are originally made for trading purposes. Its important to consider first the comment on the feedback because some of it is not for scamming people but some human error on this forum.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Don't just make conclusion based on those fancy colours you see on managers profile, some of the positive feedbacks aren't even associated with their line of work (bounty management) and some of the red tagged might just be retaliatory feedbacks (personal attacks) or forgivable silly mistakes they made in the past. Research on the managers record before you can make a decision whether a manager can be trusted or not or his style of management suits you.

Don't rely on any individual opinion also as we're all humans, some managers get accused of promoting scam projects now it left to you to make your judgement on what you consider scam projects. Most project tagged on the forum are project that have Plagiarized whitepaper etc so if you don't consider such offers scam worthy it's left for you to decide. Always used the reference to look into the reason for the feedbacks.

The feedback are just precaution measures that's why I always indicate that when even I leave a negative feedbacks on projects/managers profile.

[YOSHIE]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?

It is true, marked bad deeds in the past or present.

if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

However, this problem was returned to each participant participating in certain projects.

Manegers have a good and bad reputation when managing their projects.

If you believe that a certain manager has a bad reputation in managing the project, just leave it, do not register with the project he manages, and if you believe that the project managed by a particular manager has a good reputation, you just choose to join or not.

Can not prohibit a manager with a bad reputation, in developing their projects, as long as you have a mind and have the sense to determine your own destiny to success or failure.

So, the conclusion now is: you alone determine good and bad for yourself, not a bounty manager, who has a bad reputation.

[Japinat]

I will not make a conclusion right away, a fair member of the forum should understand that trust is not moderated so anyone can paint red trust in anyone's profile, and also, bear in mind that DT members will not stay forever, there's always a changes, some just come and go and some stays longer.

I suggest before you judge, review the reason why the manager has the red trust, and from evidence you see, you can make your own judgement.

That's how it's done.

[yahoo62278]

The pharmacist says he is legit, suchmoon says he is not to be trusted. Yahoo says he is ok too. :/ Too many different opinions...

There is a big difference IMO in saying I trusted this guy to do trades. We did around 1000$ in trades, my paypal for his btc. He always sent 1st and the transactions were always fast and smooth.

My opinion on his bounty managing however is different. He accepted about any project that came his way and ended up running a few that turned scam. So IMO you have a 50/50 shot on getting paid from a bounty he manages. You guys need to decide if a 50% chance is worth your time and read feedbacks before blindly trusting someone.

[virasog]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?
if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

and frankly like @Wapinter

Did you created this thread to discuss Wapinter trust rating ? In general, managers should not have red trust but it is not always that the Red trust would mean that he can scam or can't handle bounty well.
An example which I can remember is of aTriz who started his Signature campaign management as a good manager whom got many projects but later when he got red trusted, we can only see him managing few altcoins bounty campaigns.
Companies do not need to hire Red trust managers, when positive trusts managers are available to manage the campaign.

[The Cryptovator]

There is a big difference IMO in saying I trusted this guy to do trades. We did around 1000$ in trades, my paypal for his btc. He always sent 1st and the transactions were always fast and smooth.

Does it mean that he is trusted? He always sent first means you were not in risk. Although this is your personal matter but a neutral feedback is appropriate for this kind of deal instead. If you were on risk then green trust would a reasonable feedback.

However, I have made a thread over year ago regarding Wapinter related with scam? and that time he were promoted multiple project which was contained with fake team photos. And wapinter didn't show honesty to do his own diligence before pick any projects. He just promote for his own benefits. He doesn't care about bounty hunters or investors. And its true hunters didn't got payment from may bounty campaign managed by Wapinter. He got red tag for his shady behaviour but it doesn't mean that he don't have ability to manage campaign.

There is no any rules that red tagged users couldn't manage campaign. Instead of OP question I will ask another question. Hope OP will find his answer on my question. Why a project should hire a red tagged user to manage their campaign? And why bounty hunters should joined a red tagged manager's campaign?

[lighpulsar07]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?
if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

and frankly like @Wapinter

Well yeah but it depends... for example Atriz got f***** up because he managed a scam ICO project which it led to his demise although to be honest he was one of the best campaign managers alongside with yahoo (personally i think that he should given a chance) but sadly i agree with visarog once you got fucked up in campaign managing well companies will not hire these managers.

[rosezionjohn]

He did promote some scammy projects then later took it down after feedback from several members here. That suggests that he doesn't check projects carefully before accepting and then promoting them.

I checked the guy "Wapinter"s account and it is in one of those messy situations.

The pharmacist says he is legit, suchmoon says he is not to be trusted. Yahoo says he is ok too. :/ Too many different opinions...

Those feedback left by the pharmacist and yahoo were personal trades though and has nothing to do with managing bounties. I think the op is more concerned with how wapinter chooses and manages bounties.

[BitcoinsGreat]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?
if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

and frankly like @Wapinter

Well yeah but it depends... for example Atriz got f***** up because he managed a scam ICO project which it led to his demise although to be honest he was one of the best campaign managers alongside with yahoo (personally i think that he should given a chance) but sadly i agree with visarog once you got fucked up in campaign managing well companies will not hire these managers.

If you check ATriz profile, he has been given red tag by multiple persons and even if few of them agree to give him chance, it is not possible as all of them won't change their opinion. Signature managers should study the projects themselves first to avoid such situations later. Also there are few others managers too who are in the similar desperate situations.