[OFFICIAL] P2PB2B - resolving misunderstandings

[BitcoiNaked]

P2PB2B is an independent self-developing exchange and has nothing common with coinsbit and never had. The people indicated there are not familiar to me. We think that some people, maybe competitors have personal unfriendly relationships with this people and want to do harm for P2PB2B in incomprehensible way.

Are you suggesting that these information are not true:

Coinsbit:
https://www.teatmik.ee/en/personlegal/14438036-EXRT-Services-O%C3%9C
https://twitter.com/c0insbit/status/1051157909030227968

P2PB2B:
https://www.teatmik.ee/en/personlegal/14572266-Partida-Services-O%C3%9C

Partida Services OÜ is a company registered in the Republic of Estonia.
Our registered office is at Laki 30, 12915, Tallinn. Our website is https://p2pb2b.io.

Is it Valerii Solodovnyk https://creditreports.ee/partida-services-ou you are not familiar with or?

So should i contact police of Tallinn in Estonia? This guy from p2p claims my account is blocked because of "suspicious activity" which is utter bullshit. They have $3000 of my money, held hostage. While i never traded there before. Only thing i wanted to do is get into an IEO which got canceled and they decided to block my withdrawal and are now blaming me. What a bunch of scamming cunts! p2p exchange is blatantly STEALING their users money.

[P2PB2B Bounty Manager]

P2PB2B is an independent self-developing exchange and has nothing common with coinsbit and never had. The people indicated there are not familiar to me. We think that some people, maybe competitors have personal unfriendly relationships with this people and want to do harm for P2PB2B in incomprehensible way.

Are you suggesting that these information are not true:

Coinsbit:
https://www.teatmik.ee/en/personlegal/14438036-EXRT-Services-O%C3%9C
https://twitter.com/c0insbit/status/1051157909030227968

P2PB2B:
https://www.teatmik.ee/en/personlegal/14572266-Partida-Services-O%C3%9C

Partida Services OÜ is a company registered in the Republic of Estonia.
Our registered office is at Laki 30, 12915, Tallinn. Our website is https://p2pb2b.io.

Is it Valerii Solodovnyk https://creditreports.ee/partida-services-ou you are not familiar with or?

So should i contact police of Tallinn in Estonia? This guy from p2p claims my account is blocked because of "suspicious activity" which is utter bullshit. They have $3000 of my money, held hostage. While i never traded there before. Only thing i wanted to do is get into an IEO which got canceled and they decided to block my withdrawal and are now blaming me. What a bunch of scamming cunts! p2p exchange is blatantly STEALING their users money.

You need to try again, and if there is an error - you need to make screenshot and send it for the support service. Also put screenshots of here, so that everyone would see what you get.


It is strange that after a long period of inactivity you changed your password and wrote a negative review! Proofs:

1. https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=BitcoiNaked

2.

Even more strange is that you do not have a red trust, and it should be, because you are an account seller! Proofs:

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1909355.msg19016634#msg19016634, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1886794.msg18740873#msg18740873, Perhaps this account was also sold, because there was a large period of inactivity and there was a password change 

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[BitcoiNaked]

P2PB2B is an independent self-developing exchange and has nothing common with coinsbit and never had. The people indicated there are not familiar to me. We think that some people, maybe competitors have personal unfriendly relationships with this people and want to do harm for P2PB2B in incomprehensible way.

Are you suggesting that these information are not true:

Coinsbit:
https://www.teatmik.ee/en/personlegal/14438036-EXRT-Services-O%C3%9C
https://twitter.com/c0insbit/status/1051157909030227968

P2PB2B:
https://www.teatmik.ee/en/personlegal/14572266-Partida-Services-O%C3%9C

Partida Services OÜ is a company registered in the Republic of Estonia.
Our registered office is at Laki 30, 12915, Tallinn. Our website is https://p2pb2b.io.

Is it Valerii Solodovnyk https://creditreports.ee/partida-services-ou you are not familiar with or?

So should i contact police of Tallinn in Estonia? This guy from p2p claims my account is blocked because of "suspicious activity" which is utter bullshit. They have $3000 of my money, held hostage. While i never traded there before. Only thing i wanted to do is get into an IEO which got canceled and they decided to block my withdrawal and are now blaming me. What a bunch of scamming cunts! p2p exchange is blatantly STEALING their users money.

You need to try again, and if there is an error - you need to make screenshot and send it for the support service. Also put screenshots of here, so that everyone would see what you get.


It is strange that after a long period of inactivity you changed your password and wrote a negative review! Proofs:

1. https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=BitcoiNaked

2.

Even more strange is that you do not have a red trust, and it should be, because you are an account seller! Proofs:

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1909355.msg19016634#msg19016634, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1886794.msg18740873#msg18740873, Perhaps this account was also sold, because there was a large period of inactivity and there was a password change 

2.

It is strange that after a long period of inactivity you changed your password and wrote a negative review!

Yes, i have been inactive for a long time from bitcointalk. Someone on REDDIT messaged me after my topic on reddit about P2PB2B not letting me withdraw, and linked me to your post about me and lying about "suspicious activity", then i had to make a new password in order to post because i forgot my old password. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME, I CAN COME TO P2PB2B CHAT RIGHT NOW AND TALK TO SUPPORT, i will screen this for everyone to see. YOU HAVE MY DAMN XTZ, WORTH $3000, I REQUESTED WITHDRAWAL, SO GO AND SEND ME MY MONEY OR ELSE YOU ARE STEALING IT AND EVERYONE WILL KNOW. Stop emberassing yourself and your exchange! I leave this as long as you don't send my money to my wallet.

[eddie13]

It is strange that after a long period of inactivity you changed your password and wrote a negative review!

Even more strange is that you do not have a red trust, and it should be, because you are an account seller! Proofs: [/size]

Are you claiming that he is impersonating an account holder with a stuck account balance? Or that he is outright lying about his exchange account?
Because other than that, his character does not matter if he has been scammed..

[marlboroza]

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Is that the way to treat your customers or you are 100% sure person behind that account it is not your customer?

Can you address this:

P2PB2B is an independent self-developing exchange and has nothing common with coinsbit and never had. The people indicated there are not familiar to me. We think that some people, maybe competitors have personal unfriendly relationships with this people and want to do harm for P2PB2B in incomprehensible way.

Are you suggesting that these information are not true:

Coinsbit:
https://www.teatmik.ee/en/personlegal/14438036-EXRT-Services-O%C3%9C
https://twitter.com/c0insbit/status/1051157909030227968

P2PB2B:
https://www.teatmik.ee/en/personlegal/14572266-Partida-Services-O%C3%9C

Partida Services OÜ is a company registered in the Republic of Estonia.
Our registered office is at Laki 30, 12915, Tallinn. Our website is https://p2pb2b.io.

Is it Valerii Solodovnyk https://creditreports.ee/partida-services-ou you are not familiar with or?

[ataArt]

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Is that the way to treat your customers or you are 100% sure person behind that account it is not your customer?

Can you address this:

P2PB2B is an independent self-developing exchange and has nothing common with coinsbit and never had. The people indicated there are not familiar to me. We think that some people, maybe competitors have personal unfriendly relationships with this people and want to do harm for P2PB2B in incomprehensible way.

Are you suggesting that these information are not true:

Coinsbit:
https://www.teatmik.ee/en/personlegal/14438036-EXRT-Services-O%C3%9C
https://twitter.com/c0insbit/status/1051157909030227968

P2PB2B:
https://www.teatmik.ee/en/personlegal/14572266-Partida-Services-O%C3%9C

Partida Services OÜ is a company registered in the Republic of Estonia.
Our registered office is at Laki 30, 12915, Tallinn. Our website is https://p2pb2b.io.

Is it Valerii Solodovnyk https://creditreports.ee/partida-services-ou you are not familiar with or?

Friend, carefully read this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205331.msg53278921#msg53278921
there are no statements, the manager asks this user to take screenshots from the history of conclusions or errors that the user does not allow to withdraw money, and send screenshots to the support and here.
with such an approach as yours this question is definitely not resolved

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Yes, i have been inactive for a long time from bitcointalk. Someone on REDDIT messaged me after my topic on reddit about P2PB2B not letting me withdraw, and linked me to your post about me and lying about "suspicious activity", then i had to make a new password in order to post because i forgot my old password. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME, I CAN COME TO P2PB2B CHAT RIGHT NOW AND TALK TO SUPPORT, i will screen this for everyone to see. YOU HAVE MY DAMN XTZ, WORTH $3000, I REQUESTED WITHDRAWAL, SO GO AND SEND ME MY MONEY OR ELSE YOU ARE STEALING IT AND EVERYONE WILL KNOW. Stop emberassing yourself and your exchange! I leave this as long as you don't send my money to my wallet.

I'm the one from Reddit who contacted you and pointed to this thread. I know you are posted here a few minutes after my Reddit post, I guess the same person.
Some other accusations against p2pb2b, they say it is solved but we can't get a confirmation is it problem really solved.

You need to try again, and if there is an error - you need to make screenshot and send it for the support service. Also put screenshots of here, so that everyone would see what you get.

is it really necessary to raise the noise to push you to resolve a problem with your service?

It is strange that after a long period of inactivity you changed your password and wrote a negative review! Proofs:

completely irrelevant fact in this case or you only solve problems to active Bitcointalk users?

[JollyGood]

No one yet had confirmed about the issues to be solved but this bounty manager demanded red trust to be removed before starting the campaign. He's got to be laughing while he gained support from you guys. I don't think he should bargain that because the moment he attempt to scam there will be a chance that he will be doing it again. Not to mention the IEOs being done in this exchange.

You are right, they have a strategy to try to divide the opinions of the community by using bounty/bribes as a tool.

Everything related to p2pb2b has been a disgrace so yes they must be very happy gaining a little bit of support from a tiny minority of people falling for their games.

.... Meanwhile thanks to Ukrainian super-scammer Valerii Solodovnyk the p2pb2b sister company coinsbit exchange scam thread has been pumped to 108 pages of trash by sock-puppets: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185065.0;topicseen

[P2PB2B Bounty Manager]

Yes, i have been inactive for a long time from bitcointalk. Someone on REDDIT messaged me after my topic on reddit about P2PB2B not letting me withdraw, and linked me to your post about me and lying about "suspicious activity", then i had to make a new password in order to post because i forgot my old password. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME, I CAN COME TO P2PB2B CHAT RIGHT NOW AND TALK TO SUPPORT, i will screen this for everyone to see. YOU HAVE MY DAMN XTZ, WORTH $3000, I REQUESTED WITHDRAWAL, SO GO AND SEND ME MY MONEY OR ELSE YOU ARE STEALING IT AND EVERYONE WILL KNOW. Stop emberassing yourself and your exchange! I leave this as long as you don't send my money to my wallet.

I'm the one from Reddit who contacted you and pointed to this thread. I know you are posted here a few minutes after my Reddit post, I guess the same person.
Some other accusations against p2pb2b, they say it is solved but we can't get a confirmation is it problem really solved.

You need to try again, and if there is an error - you need to make screenshot and send it for the support service. Also put screenshots of here, so that everyone would see what you get.

is it really necessary to raise the noise to push you to resolve a problem with your service?

It is strange that after a long period of inactivity you changed your password and wrote a negative review! Proofs:

completely irrelevant fact in this case or you only solve problems to active Bitcointalk users?

1. Perhaps you will never get them, because half of them are fake.
2. In this case, we have no problems with the service, I just asked him to provide everyone with a transaction history screen. is he weak?
3. You are right, this fact has nothing to do with the withdrawal of funds.
But the fact remains.

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Is that the way to treat your customers or you are 100% sure person behind that account it is not your customer?

Can you address this:

P2PB2B is an independent self-developing exchange and has nothing common with coinsbit and never had. The people indicated there are not familiar to me. We think that some people, maybe competitors have personal unfriendly relationships with this people and want to do harm for P2PB2B in incomprehensible way.

Are you suggesting that these information are not true:

Coinsbit:
https://www.teatmik.ee/en/personlegal/14438036-EXRT-Services-O%C3%9C
https://twitter.com/c0insbit/status/1051157909030227968

P2PB2B:
https://www.teatmik.ee/en/personlegal/14572266-Partida-Services-O%C3%9C

Partida Services OÜ is a company registered in the Republic of Estonia.
Our registered office is at Laki 30, 12915, Tallinn. Our website is https://p2pb2b.io.

Is it Valerii Solodovnyk https://creditreports.ee/partida-services-ou you are not familiar with or?

1. Judging by the fact that he has already withdrawn money and continues to accuse the exchange - this one may be a dummy person. I’ve been in such situations several times and I talked only with the support service, since only they can help solve such situation.

2. I do not quite understand how these people are associated with the P2PB2B . It’s also not clear how Coinsbit is connected with P2PB2B.
Can you give more information to relate these facts?
 

[BitcoiNaked]

So i finally received my funds into my wallet, i do feel like i had to go through so many steps and accusations to get my money. Nontheless fair play to them to deposit my money. I can't say now that i have been scammed since they returned my money, so for me now they seem incompetent, since a withdrawal for me took 3 weeks and tons of running after my funds to get a withdrawal. Hope you fix these issues, because people like me think you are trying to scam when the communication is poor en delay is so long. Thanks anyway for letting me withdraw.

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So i finally received my funds into my wallet, i do feel like i had to go through so many steps and accusations to get my money. Nontheless fair play to them to deposit my money. I can't say now that i have been scammed since they returned my money, so for me now they seem incompetent, since a withdrawal for me took 3 weeks and tons of running after my funds to get a withdrawal. Hope you fix these issues, because people like me think you are trying to scam when the communication is poor en delay is so long. Thanks anyway for letting me withdraw.

Glad to hear that you get your money back. I hope you haven't lost much in the last three weeks.
Still can't understand, why is community pressure necessary for solving ordinary thing for one exchange like enabling withdrawal. Why it takes three weeks? How many more cases like this exist in p2pb2b users which not come to complain on Bitcoitalk?

[pilosopotasyo]

So i finally received my funds into my wallet, i do feel like i had to go through so many steps and accusations to get my money. Nontheless fair play to them to deposit my money. I can't say now that i have been scammed since they returned my money, so for me now they seem incompetent, since a withdrawal for me took 3 weeks and tons of running after my funds to get a withdrawal. Hope you fix these issues, because people like me think you are trying to scam when the communication is poor en delay is so long. Thanks anyway for letting me withdraw.

Well, congrats you could not get your money back if they have not plan to launch a campaign, so far so good let's see the rest, but I still want them to launch their campaign in other forums, this is one hostile environment, altcoins, bitcoingarden and hey Cryptotalk is moving forward
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cryptotalk.org#trafficstats 69,651 only after two months.

[IconFirm]

So i finally received my funds into my wallet, i do feel like i had to go through so many steps and accusations to get my money. Nontheless fair play to them to deposit my money. I can't say now that i have been scammed since they returned my money, so for me now they seem incompetent, since a withdrawal for me took 3 weeks and tons of running after my funds to get a withdrawal. Hope you fix these issues, because people like me think you are trying to scam when the communication is poor en delay is so long. Thanks anyway for letting me withdraw.

So, just to clarify:

After 3 weeks of being refused withdrawal of your funds for no reason you were then ignored, then they publicly accused you of being a fake account, then they publicly attacked you for trying to sell your account (which is not against forum rules) - until they finally they agreed to let you withdraw your funds after you published your issues here - & you thank them?

Thanks is not the word I'd use. I'm glad you got your funds back, but it is only because you (rightly) made such a loud noise about it - it also begs the question how many others they have done this to?

I hope this serves as a warning to anyone else who's thinking of using or promoting this scam exchange - DON'T!

[JollyGood]

So i finally received my funds into my wallet, i do feel like i had to go through so many steps and accusations to get my money. Nontheless fair play to them to deposit my money. I can't say now that i have been scammed since they returned my money, so for me now they seem incompetent, since a withdrawal for me took 3 weeks and tons of running after my funds to get a withdrawal. Hope you fix these issues, because people like me think you are trying to scam when the communication is poor en delay is so long. Thanks anyway for letting me withdraw.

So, just to clarify:

After 3 weeks of being refused withdrawal of your funds for no reason you were then ignored, then they publicly accused you of being a fake account, then they publicly attacked you for trying to sell your account (which is not against forum rules) - until they finally they agreed to let you withdraw your funds after you published your issues here - & you thank them?

Thanks is not the word I'd use. I'm glad you got your funds back, but it is only because you (rightly) made such a loud noise about it - it also begs the question how many others they have done this to?

I hope this serves as a warning to anyone else who's thinking of using or promoting this scam exchange - DON'T!

My sentiments exactly.... just because funds were returned after the negative publicity does not make it a non-scam issue.

The coinsbit and p2pb2b scammers must have selective scammed hundreds of users but only a fraction found their way here to this forum seeking help.

I think BitcoiNaked removed the trust he left for the OP after he had access to his funds but I see now reason why it should have been removed.

I completely agree with you, nobody should ever use this p2pb2b trash scam exchange or any other operated by Ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk: https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650

[bittraffic]

Feels good to see bitcointalk users has the power to make the exchange accountable for what they have done in the past. Congrats to BitcoiNaked you finally got your funds back.  Fixing the errors done in the past whether a scam attempt or not will have to be addressed, you wouldn't find it an expensive price to pay after all, the money isn't from the exchange owner's pocket. If you have fixed it all, your exchange will gain the trust. No pain no gain they say. Hope the campaign will continue afterwards.

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Guys, can you stop shilling about his campaign? p2pb2b signature campaign has not a priority. One or two solved cases with a lot of struggle don't mean that is everything okay.
I don't think they can provide confidence in one day or two.
In any case, they can run a signature campaign even if they have negative feedback.

[JollyGood]

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Guys, can you stop shilling about his campaign? p2pb2b signature campaign has not a priority. One or two solved cases with a lot of struggle don't mean that is everything okay.
I don't think they can provide confidence in one day or two.
In any case, they can run a signature campaign even if they have negative feedback.

You summed it up very elegantly. Some users are getting excited for literally nothing.

They are scammers, that has been established long ago. They made no apology to the community for inflating their figures and sending them to CMC and they never apologised for all the known and unknown cases of selective scamming.

They think they deserve a pat on the back for refunding a couple of users they scammed and returned their rightful funds just because the victims came here to this forum to expose p2pb2b? No, p2pb2b and Valerii Solodovnyk deserve no such credit because they have no intention of doing anything except saying what needs to be said to simply apease the community while always trying to selective scam users.

I would never ever promote this p2pb2b trash or coinsbit trash or any other trash that was owned or operated by Ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk: https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650

[JeromeTash]

I still wonder if P2PB2B would have decided solve the issues if they had no plans to run a campaign around the forum. After reading through the OP, i ask my self... why now?
Is this attempt to resolve them in good faith?

We have people who brought out issues here more than 3 months ago, but they decided to turn a blind eye on them. So why the sudden interest to resolve them after a number of months?

hey Cryptotalk is moving forward
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cryptotalk.org#trafficstats 69,651 only after two months.

Moving forward because of spammers? 
Good luck to them

[Decrypted]

mosprognoz, can you give one more good advice on how to speed it all up?

If you want to speed it up, start campaign and accept users with neg trust. They don't care if they get one more neg comment.
Later when you resolve problems will join users with neutral trust.
This is not a very elegant solution, but there is always one..

[Saisher]

mosprognoz, can you give one more good advice on how to speed it all up?

If you want to speed it up, start campaign and accept users with neg trust. They don't care if they get one more neg comment.
Later when you resolve problems will join users with neutral trust.
This is not a very elegant solution, but there is always one..

That's self-serving you have a red  trust and you will have doors open to you as members with red trust, no bounty manager will allow their project promoted by scammers of the forum, that's the first time we read a campaign for red trust, what will be the result of the campaign if that is the case.