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[arallmuus]

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I got Real Madrid on a single bet but decided to play with some options on the second betslip, it was a close call, they could have scored at least a goal in the first half to open up the game in the second half but the Benfica goalkeeper did great.

Well atleast you won one so its break even overall

Newcastle United thrashing Qarabag on their home turf like that was unexpected- I think there's nothing left to play for in the return leg.

1-6 for Newcastle is an absolute banger. Yeah Qarabag is on a whole another level compared to Newcastle but getting 5 goal in 45 minutes were pretty solid achievement

Took Atletico Madrid & Inter Milan double combo for tonight at 3+odds

Looking on track for Atletico but not for Inter Milan, as expected from Bodo/glimt. I need alot of goals from Olympiacos - Bayer games, I got Leverkusen to win as well as BTTS on this game so 0-0 on the first half doesnt help at all

[igebotz]

I can understand why you analysed the Real Madrid stalemate as it is true that the performance of the opposing goalkeeper is unpredictable. The great triumph of Newcastle makes the second leg appear to be a formality to all. The odd of Atletico and Inter being double-headers is a very risky decision, but the fact is it makes a lot of technical sense. I believe that this choice of the best team will provide us with a tangible opportunity to reach the highest outcome during the current game.

I can bet my life, my wife and my dogs that this is 100% AI generated text, I read it and my IQ went from max to zero trying to understand the sense in your post. It is so difficult to use our brain now? @Ultegra134

1-6 for Newcastle is an absolute banger. Yeah Qarabag is on a whole another level compared to Newcastle but getting 5 goal in 45 minutes were pretty solid achievement

Football is funny - Chelsea couldn't beat this Qarabag side in the group phase this season, they're one of my favorite underdogs this season in the CL, I don't know how they got it wrong tonight at home. Sad ending unfortunately.

Looking on track for Atletico but not for Inter Milan, as expected from Bodo/glimt. I need alot of goals from Olympiacos - Bayer games, I got Leverkusen to win as well as BTTS on this game so 0-0 on the first half doesnt help at all

Bodo/glimt are a stubborn and fearless team against elite teams, but I'm hoping Inter Milan can find a way to win for me today; they're currently back into the game at 1-1 HT. ATM started nicely, and hopefully they'll add one more to finish the game quickly.

[Ultegra134]

I can understand why you analysed the Real Madrid stalemate as it is true that the performance of the opposing goalkeeper is unpredictable. The great triumph of Newcastle makes the second leg appear to be a formality to all. The odd of Atletico and Inter being double-headers is a very risky decision, but the fact is it makes a lot of technical sense. I believe that this choice of the best team will provide us with a tangible opportunity to reach the highest outcome during the current game.

I can bet my life, my wife and my dogs that this is 100% AI generated text, I read it and my IQ went from max to zero trying to understand the sense in your post. It is so difficult to use our brain now? @Ultegra134

Well, @TopT3ns sounds quite unnatural, I agree; it rings alarm bells just by reading it. It looks exactly how AI posts are structured. I checked the text with GPTZero and Stealthwriter and both results showed that it's written by a human, however, as I've also mentioned in the main topic, I also have Gemini Pro. Thus, I decided to test it there, as it was accurate a previous time that the usual detectors didn't specify anything important. Quoting Gemini's reply on the quote below.

Based on a linguistic analysis, this text heavily leans toward being AI-generated and likely run through an AI "humanizer" or article spinner (a tool that replaces words with synonyms to bypass AI detection).

While I can't run a technical detection scan on it, the phrasing is full of hallmarks typical of text that has been artificially altered or poorly generated.

Here is a breakdown of why it sounds highly suspicious:

Misused Sports/Betting Jargon: * "The odd of Atletico and Inter being double-headers..." In sports betting, you would say "The odds on..." Furthermore, "double-headers" typically refers to two games played back-to-back on the same day by the same teams (common in baseball, rare in European football). The writer likely meant "double chance" or an "accumulator/parlay," but an AI or synonym-spinner swapped in the wrong term.

Corporate/Academic Speak in a Sports Context: * Phrases like "tangible opportunity to reach the highest outcome" are unnatural. A real human analyzing football would say something like, "gives us a solid chance to win" or "offers the best payout."

Saying "it makes a lot of technical sense" is also very clunky for sports analysis.

Awkward Singular/Plural Usage: * "The odd of" instead of the standard "The odds of."

Overly Formal Tone: * "The great triumph of Newcastle makes the second leg appear to be a formality to all." While grammatically correct, it sounds overly melodramatic and robotic compared to how fans or tipsters actually write (e.g., "Newcastle's huge win makes the second leg look like a formality").

The Verdict:
It reads exactly like a piece of standard sports betting analysis that was fed into a "humanizer" tool to evade detection. These tools work by forcing a thesaurus onto the text, which is why you end up with weird, mismatched phrases like "highest outcome" instead of "best result." (Alternatively, it could be a non-native English speaker using a translation app that struggles with betting terminology, but the "spinbot" style is much more prominent here).

[igebotz]

Well, @TopT3ns sounds quite unnatural, I agree; it rings alarm bells just by reading it. It looks exactly how AI posts are structured. I checked the text with GPTZero and Stealthwriter and both results showed that it's written by a human, however, as I've also mentioned in the main topic, I also have Gemini Pro. Thus, I decided to test it there, as it was accurate a previous time that the usual detectors didn't specify anything important. Quoting Gemini's reply on the quote below.

They may be using some sort of paid humanizer to avoid AI detector tools or could it be another direct AI translation? From local to English. We're so cooked with these humanizers. Thanks.

Bodo/Glimt with another masterclass performance against another elite team to denial me a cool cash tonight. Just going to drink something and call it a night.

[Ultegra134]

They may be using some sort of paid humanizer to avoid AI detector tools or could it be another direct AI translation? From local to English. We're so cooked with these humanizers. Thanks.

It actually makes "sense" to use a paid service in order to basically "automate" a process that's making you money on a weekly basis but requires some sort of effort and time. I'm not sure if it's a translated text, because its flow is quite unnatural and uses words that aren't often used in "human" language. A simple translation also wouldn't use sophisticated words that AI software use.

[BABY SHOES]

02.5 corner for wolves at 1.75 is a steal.

Apparently the bookies know better than us. Lol Wolves corner kick O 2.5 is not better for this match because Wolves can only take 1 corner kick. Damn, so few corners this time.

Actually there is always an option to go with handicap but I guess you are not really a fan of that. Anyway, I guess I got too excited with UCL that I didnt realize Arsenal will be playing tonight before I read this post lol

Yeah... I'm not a fan of handicap betting so not doing it is better to use other options.
The Champions League match this time was not to be expected, we failed a lot of bets, one of which we picked Inter to win against Bodo/Glimt.

[darxiaomi]

For sure yesterday games were a comple nightmare for the bettors who always rely on favorite teams and also for the ones who only bet on lower odds(much more than favorites), i mean Arsenal a complete mess, Atletico Madrid cant beat Brugge, and Bodo destroy Inter and with that for sure they take out a lot of bets.

Inter odds were temping for sure, but i knew Bodo in Norway can make really good games.

[BABY SHOES]

Inter odds were temping for sure, but i knew Bodo in Norway can make really good games.

Now that Inter Milan's odds are not so tempting, what about Bodo/Glimt's odds? 9.20 is a high number who knows Bodo/Glimt can make a surprise again in the second leg later, huhhh still it is a high risk.
What is surprising is that Bodo/Glimt have beaten other big European teams several times, they seem to have a sense of confidence.

Which one is better for goal betting?
O 2.5 - 1.71 because Inter Milan are 2 goals down... at home Inter will chase 3 goals.
O 0.5 Bodo/Glimt?

 

[ralle14]

Which one is better for goal betting?
O 2.5 - 1.71 because Inter Milan are 2 goals down... at home Inter will chase 3 goals.
O 0.5 Bodo/Glimt?

Even though Inter might play very defensively at home, i'd rather take my chances on Bodo to score at least one goal. They're still an attacking team that'll probably do whatever it takes get one before the game ends.

The Europa League matches yesterday also had a lot of interesting results, with most of the road teams winning the first leg.

[rdbase]

For sure yesterday games were a comple nightmare for the bettors who always rely on favorite teams and also for the ones who only bet on lower odds(much more than favorites), i mean Arsenal a complete mess, Atletico Madrid cant beat Brugge, and Bodo destroy Inter and with that for sure they take out a lot of bets.

Inter odds were temping for sure, but i knew Bodo in Norway can make really good games.

But from what I remember with some tips about the match that people were on Bodo against Inter.
Even with such high odds it was worth it since they do well in these Europa matches for some reason or another.

Now that Inter Milan's odds are not so tempting, what about Bodo/Glimt's odds? 9.20 is a high number who knows Bodo/Glimt can make a surprise again in the second leg later..

They are this high in this AC Milan match? Definitely worth to put a couple of bucks on them to win then.

Which one is better for goal betting?
O 2.5 - 1.71 because Inter Milan are 2 goals down... at home Inter will chase 3 goals.
O 0.5 Bodo/Glimt?

Even though Inter might play very defensively at home, i'd rather take my chances on Bodo to score at least one goal. They're still an attacking team that'll probably do whatever it takes get one before the game ends.

The Europa League matches yesterday also had a lot of interesting results, with most of the road teams winning the first leg.

Agreed @ralle14 this might be a smarter play to take since you know they are offensive style team that does not sit back in a match.

[darxiaomi]

Inter odds were temping for sure, but i knew Bodo in Norway can make really good games.

Now that Inter Milan's odds are not so tempting, what about Bodo/Glimt's odds? 9.20 is a high number who knows Bodo/Glimt can make a surprise again in the second leg later, huhhh still it is a high risk.
What is surprising is that Bodo/Glimt have beaten other big European teams several times, they seem to have a sense of confidence.

That are really good odds and someone like buwaytress for example can take them for him but if you ask me i avoid it, i dont think Bodo can do again the same game they do in Norway , maybe they can go to the next stage if they can hold the diference, but winning on Italy seems impossible.

Maybe i can take that option aniways in our champions league contest..... Just my 3 points 

[arallmuus]

Which one is better for goal betting?
O 2.5 - 1.71 because Inter Milan are 2 goals down... at home Inter will chase 3 goals.
O 0.5 Bodo/Glimt?

Both are pretty bad for my taste, I normally always go for atleast 2x minimum odds or close to 2x. Sometimes below 2x if its a huge favourite against underdog.

Since I guess most of us agree that Bodo/glimt are pretty good in the 1st leg, a reasonable bet could be Bodo/glimt to qualify @1.97x as of now or probably double chance if you think they can hold the game and force a draw somehow @3x

or if you are confident that Inter Milan gonna trash Bodo/Glimt then picking Inter to qualify through regular time could be an option as well, pretty sure this is over 2x

[igebotz]

02.5 corner for wolves at 1.75 is a steal.

Apparently the bookies know better than us. Lol Wolves corner kick O 2.5 is not better for this match because Wolves can only take 1 corner kick. Damn, so few corners this time.

Well, that was cringe because the only corner came very early and I was expecting more. I was close to taking +4 corner handicap for Wolves at 1.55 which was also a value odds. I didn't watch the game but Arsenal had only 3 corners - that was strange too.

I'm done with AC Milan and Inter Milan for the season; Italian teams are too inconsistent and can never be trusted. They spread legs too easily.

[rdbase]

They may be using some sort of paid humanizer to avoid AI detector tools or could it be another direct AI translation? From local to English. We're so cooked with these humanizers. Thanks.

It actually makes "sense" to use a paid service in order to basically "automate" a process that's making you money on a weekly basis but requires some sort of effort and time. I'm not sure if it's a translated text, because its flow is quite unnatural and uses words that aren't often used in "human" language. A simple translation also wouldn't use sophisticated words that AI software use.

Hadn't known about these humanizer for their AI bot responses and actually had replied awhile back to one on another of my threads under bitcoin discussions and they were convincing enough that I sent it a merit but was not the only one to do so.

Since you use Gemini Pro maybe you can run through some results for this weekend's matches in the Premier League as one member asked around a week ago if the paid service would give different results from the free version.

Anyone tried using ai like gemini, open ai or grok to predict EPL games?
Could have a hitrate of more then 50% , definitely more then my win %

If anyone has a subcription would be super interesting to see if the paid ones are more right then the free ones, it shouldnt be but never know

Better yet, ask it what the chances are now for Arsenal to win the League this season from them dropping vital points the other day to Wolves.

[TopT3ns]

02.5 corner for wolves at 1.75 is a steal.

Apparently the bookies know better than us. Lol Wolves corner kick O 2.5 is not better for this match because Wolves can only take 1 corner kick. Damn, so few corners this time.

Well, that was cringe because the only corner came very early and I was expecting more. I was close to taking +4 corner handicap for Wolves at 1.55 which was also a value odds. I didn't watch the game but Arsenal had only 3 corners - that was strange too.

I'm done with AC Milan and Inter Milan for the season; Italian teams are too inconsistent and can never be trusted. They spread legs too easily.

It is quite natural that you are disappointed with the number of corners that Arsenal had, this statistic is quite bizarre to the rest of us that watch powerful matches. The decision to take Wolves handicap is actually a brilliant stroke since it offers us more security in the wake of uncertain field outcomes. I believe that it is a very rational decision to withdraw the betting on such Italian clubs as AC Milan and Inter Milan. The irregular performances in them repeatedly throw a spanner in the carefully laid plans which we have carefully planned with painstaking technical calculation every week. To defend our prospects of success, I think that I would find a more stable league. When we keep on clinging to those teams that can be easily shaken, then it will be more challenging and hard earned to get optimum outcomes in the long run.

[igebotz]

Hadn't known about these humanizer for their AI bot responses and actually had replied awhile back to one on another of my threads under bitcoin discussions and they were convincing enough that I sent it a merit but was not the only one to do so.

Since you use Gemini Pro maybe you can run through some results for this weekend's matches in the Premier League as one member asked around a week ago if the paid service would give different results from the free version.

I sometimes use Grok to analyze some of my football predictions and I would say 7/10 in football, 8/20 I Dota predictions and 9/10 in snooker and tennis predictions. I haven't tried Gemini pro but I'd love to see the predictions too 

[Ultegra134]

Hadn't known about these humanizer for their AI bot responses and actually had replied awhile back to one on another of my threads under bitcoin discussions and they were convincing enough that I sent it a merit but was not the only one to do so.

Since you use Gemini Pro maybe you can run through some results for this weekend's matches in the Premier League as one member asked around a week ago if the paid service would give different results from the free version.

Humanizers are a plague and are getting more and more popular on the forum, sometimes rendering detectors useless, I'm hoping that eventually there will be methods to tackle them, but I highly doubt it. As for the AI prediction you asked, do you have any particular match in mind, or should I just test a few random ones and report back? If I'm honest, I have never bothered or thought to ask a paid AI service such as Gemini Pro for predictions, not sure if it yields different results from the free version, but the pro generally does more in-depth analysis.

[rdbase]

Hadn't known about these humanizer for their AI bot responses and actually had replied awhile back to one on another of my threads under bitcoin discussions and they were convincing enough that I sent it a merit but was not the only one to do so.

Since you use Gemini Pro maybe you can run through some results for this weekend's matches in the Premier League as one member asked around a week ago if the paid service would give different results from the free version.

I sometimes use Grok to analyze some of my football predictions and I would say 7/10 in football, 8/20 I Dota predictions and 9/10 in snooker and tennis predictions. I haven't tried Gemini pro but I'd love to see the predictions too 

Since late last year wanted to start with grok but somebody mentioned it wasn't that great but that was not the Super version which was paid but I think it wouldn't have made much difference in it's results.
As I think Gemini Pro would make for a better selection since their advancements in AI.

Humanizers are a plague and are getting more and more popular on the forum, sometimes rendering detectors useless, I'm hoping that eventually there will be methods to tackle them, but I highly doubt it. As for the AI prediction you asked, do you have any particular match in mind, or should I just test a few random ones and report back? If I'm honest, I have never bothered or thought to ask a paid AI service such as Gemini Pro for predictions, not sure if it yields different results from the free version, but the pro generally does more in-depth analysis.

The matches in the EPL that are scheduled for today:
Aston Villa vs Leeds United
Brentford vs Brightton
West Ham vs Bournemouth
Chelsea vs Burnley
Manchester City vs Newcastle United

Pick any random ones from that list above and run it though Gemini Pro to see if their results come close to what the outcomes will be.

[Ultegra134]

The matches in the EPL that are scheduled for today:
Aston Villa vs Leeds United
Brentford vs Brightton
West Ham vs Bournemouth
Chelsea vs Burnley
Manchester City vs Newcastle United

Pick any random ones from that list above and run it though Gemini Pro to see if their results come close to what the outcomes will be.

Hmm, I'll check West Ham vs. Bournemouth which is starting in about an hour from now. If you want, you can try asking ChatGPT or Gemini's free edition to see if it makes a different prediction that the paid version. Here are the results from Gemini Pro, let me know if you want me to try any other match before they start.

"The countdown is officially on! Kick-off at the London Stadium is in exactly an hour (19:30 local time for you in Greece / 17:30 GMT).

As an AI, I don't have a personal bankroll to wager, but I can definitely analyze the current data, form, and market consensus to point you toward where the betting value lies right now.

Here is the breakdown of the match and the smartest bets you can look at before the whistle blows.

The Match Context
West Ham (18th place): They are fighting tooth and nail to climb out of the relegation zone. Despite their league position, they are unbeaten in their last five matches across all competitions under Nuno Espírito Santo, coming off a gritty 1-1 draw against Manchester United and an FA Cup win over Burton.

Bournemouth (9th place): The Cherries are flying high and sitting comfortably in the top half of the table. They are unbeaten in their last six Premier League games and just pulled off a great 2-1 away win against Everton.

Predictions & Top Betting Picks
The sportsbooks have this priced as an incredibly tight matchup. West Ham has the home-field advantage, but Bournemouth is the better team on paper right now.

Here are the best bets to consider placing:

1. Both Teams to Score (BTTS) – Yes (around 1.46 / -233)

Why: This is the most popular consensus pick. West Ham has scored in six consecutive league matches but still holds the joint-worst defensive record in the bottom half (49 goals conceded). Bournemouth matches are consistently high-action; they’ve scored 43 and conceded 45 this season. Expect both nets to ripple.

2. Double Chance: Draw or Bournemouth (X2) (around 1.40 / -143) OR Bournemouth +0.25 Asian Handicap

Why: While West Ham is desperate for points at home, Bournemouth’s current form (unbeaten in 6 league games) makes them incredibly tough to beat. Taking the Cherries on a Double Chance or a +0.25 Asian Handicap gives you great insurance in what has a high probability of being a 1-1 or 2-2 draw.

3. Total Goals: Under 3.5 (around 1.63 / -158)

Why: While both teams are likely to score, their historical head-to-head matchups aren't usually absolute blowouts. West Ham has also tightened up slightly in recent weeks to grind out results. Under 3.5 goals is viewed by many betting models as a safer play than the Over 2.5 line.

4. Player Prop: Amine Adli (Bournemouth) Over 1.5 Shots

Why: Adli has been incredibly active, clearing the 1.5 shots line in his past two Premier League away games and scoring against Everton recently. If you want a player prop, this is a statistically strong angle.

My AI "Verdict": A hard-fought 1-1 or 2-2 draw. If you want a single, straightforward accumulator filler, Both Teams to Score (Yes) is your safest bet. If you want slightly better odds, backing Bournemouth Double Chance (X2) is the smart money.

Would you like me to quickly pull up the odds for any specific goalscorers (like Jarrod Bowen or Valentín Castellanos) before you lock your slip in?"

[rdbase]

^^
Well today was a draw after draw sort of day in the EPL including this match you processed using Gemini pro.
None of the matches so far had been high scoring with either 1-1 or 0-0 where this Bournemouth match ended up being.
So it was correct with under 3.5 goals and being a draw but not the 2-2 or 1-1 result it expected.

Next one is Manchester City vs Newcastle United and the last match of the day.
For the pool I had 3-2 win for Man City but after the scores not going over 3 goals I changed it in the last minute to a 2-1 scoreline instead.