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Heading back down. Surprize surprize lmfao Out of control... ....you cant make this shit up.... Oh wait... ....he did  How much down will go? I think will go to 230 and stay there till around Feb 10 when the next hype will happen because of the conference In the end price and ppl are not really relevant to Bitcoin Bitcoins use and options to get acceptance as a 'boring' stable protocol layer for any application of value transport and its documentation Speculation obsession derails and is just pitch for the dumb Watch for the use https://mobile.twitter.com/m_murfy/status/1215185501088440325the first use of BSV (that forked off BCH that forked off BTC) is to copy BTC to make money off new blood that will come in to crypto land, because [insert technical and philosophical mumbo jumbos here].  Crypto space is a net 0 game - hard to make mony with forks IMO Nope BSV is to show that segwit - anonymous - anarcho is cancer |
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January 16, 2020, 01:38:41 PM |
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Anyone who bought before the pump, and shorted as it was going down, would have made money. Doesn't make the coin any more useful other than for that purpose.
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Heading back down. Surprize surprize lmfao Out of control... ....you cant make this shit up.... Oh wait... ....he did How much down will go? I think will go to 230 and stay there till around Feb 10 when the next hype will happen because of the conference In the end price and ppl are not really relevant to Bitcoin Bitcoins use and options to get acceptance as a 'boring' stable protocol layer for any application of value transport and its documentation Speculation obsession derails and is just pitch for the dumb Watch for the use https://mobile.twitter.com/m_murfy/status/1215185501088440325the first use of BSV (that forked off BCH that forked off BTC) is to copy BTC to make money off new blood that will come in to crypto land, because [insert technical and philosophical mumbo jumbos here]. Crypto space is a net 0 game - hard to make mony with forks IMONope BSV is to show that segwit - anonymous - anarcho is canceri'm getting a conspiracy tin foil hat kind of vibe with these words..can make a good altcoin discussion thread about this hehe Gavin Andresen visits CIA in 2011 https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=6652.0..I accepted the invitation to speak because the fact that I was invited means Bitcoin is already on their radar.. may 2016, Gavin Andresen says craig wright is satoshi nakamoto... maybe gavin was pressured by the CIA to do stuff like help implant an impostor....nobody can resist the CIA or any agency if you are not anonymous and anarcho/decentalizedmaybe craig is an implant and calvin is a front to cover up where the real source of funding this attack on bitcoin is coming from. I think gavin left and he knows that Bitcoin is resilient, even with attacks like craig, BSV, gavin's removal and other propaganda it will survive. i mean look at craig, always asking for trust but always failing verification LOL did i put my conspiracy tin foil hat right? Gavin had just received the alert keys to the Bitcoin network. Right afterwards, he tells Satoshi that he is visiting the CIA. Satoshi leaves for good coincidentally.
This is quoted from the defunct Bruce Wagner Bitcoin podcast:
Bruce Wagner : When was the last time you chatted to satoshi <laugh>
Gavin Andresen: Um... I haven't had email from satoshi in a couple months actually. The last email I sent him I actually told him I was going to talk at the CIA. So it's possible , that.... that may have um had something to with his deciding
Based on this, do you think Gavin fully meets Satoshi's vision for Bitcoin?
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January 16, 2020, 04:02:15 PM |
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SV is just a money making scam
Par for the course since I began following crypto when there was 25 coins in existence.
Rinse and repeat
Tho it is amazing to see it being done at this level
BTC and some others are real investments
SV is a Pump and Dump Shitcoin in our current age
It has ZERO value other than to reference itself to BTC and market manipulation
Hence its marketcap peak we just witnessed, and now its inevitable crash into obscurity
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January 17, 2020, 04:23:23 AM |
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BSV is to show that segwit - anonymous - anarcho is cancer
If that's its primary function, it sure is doing a piss poor job of it. Would probably help if your dev wasn't a shyster con artist. We've already been over this -- satoshi (the real satoshi) was pro-anonymity. He did everything he could to protect the anonymity of bitcoin users by doing things like developing bitcoin to not log IP addresses and be Tor-friendly. Your fraudulent dev is the antithesis of this. No way Craig will ever move a single satoshi coin. Mainly because he isn't satoshi. He hasn't before, he won't in the future. How much do you want to bet on it? |
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January 17, 2020, 05:04:46 AM |
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BSV is to show that segwit - anonymous - anarcho is cancer
If that's its primary function, it sure is doing a piss poor job of it. Would probably help if your dev wasn't a shyster con artist. We've already been over this -- satoshi (the real satoshi) was pro-anonymity. He did everything he could to protect the anonymity of bitcoin users by doing things like developing bitcoin to not log IP addresses and be Tor-friendly. Your fraudulent dev is the antithesis of this. No way Craig will ever move a single satoshi coin. Mainly because he isn't satoshi. He hasn't before, he won't in the future. How much do you want to bet on it? This^^^ Hell of a scam. Many of us can see it. A few can make some $$ And many lose their ass. Same old shit SV is a joke and so is craig |
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January 17, 2020, 09:46:55 AM |
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Someone knows about the lawsuit filled against some exchanges that delisted BSV? Rumors that they will relist BSV are starting to show up.  |
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January 17, 2020, 11:09:22 AM |
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BSV is to show that segwit - anonymous - anarcho is cancer
... We've already been over this -- satoshi (the real satoshi) was pro-anonymity. NOPE He wanted P2P based on IP - remeber? He only wanted to stay ano for his person for risk mitigation. Others went to jail for such a system. Illegal code writing is illegal btw .... |
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BSV is to show that segwit - anonymous - anarcho is cancer
... We've already been over this -- satoshi (the real satoshi) was pro-anonymity. NOPE He wanted P2P based on IP - remeber? He only wanted to stay ano for his person for risk mitigation. Others went to jail for such a system. Illegal code writing is illegal btw .... TPTB (the powers that be) must be shitting themselves when BTC is evolving to layering because anonymity can be achieved in BTC through layering, so Bitcoin must stay as layer 1 (not the OSI model, BTC has it's own layering model). just look at OSI layer (the internet-our internet), where is the encryption? at layer 5,6,7 (refer to the picture) layer 3 for example -- IP can be mixed in TOR, the current BTC anonymity is currently by mixing like TOR at layer 3.....layering is the future..you dumbo   Someone knows about the lawsuit filled against some exchanges that delisted BSV?
Rumors that they will relist BSV are starting to show up.
LOL at desperate harrasment by BSV to relist BTW P.S. the internet TCP-IP was a military technology, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET, layering was the key to make it a technology for the masses not just for privacy(encryption) but also for ease of use/utility-adoption. |
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January 17, 2020, 12:56:44 PM |
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Even without layering, if you know how to do CoinJoins or similar techniques mixing the transaction with others, that provides enough noise to confuse everyone else who wasn't part of that transaction, and for the most part only you know your own portion of the transaction and likely do not know about all the other inputs.
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January 17, 2020, 12:57:42 PM |
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I have start thinking on a coinspiracy theory that Roger Ver, Craig Wright and Jihan are still friends and one day will join again to fight against BTC.
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Even without layering, if you know how to do CoinJoins or similar techniques mixing the transaction with others, that provides enough noise to confuse everyone else who wasn't part of that transaction, and for the most part only you know your own portion of the transaction and likely do not know about all the other inputs.
those days are long gone. https://www.coinfirm.com/https://www.coindesk.com/us-government-lockheed-martin-bitcoin-analysis-toolhttps://www.coindesk.com/fbi-malware-victims-should-pay-bitcoin-ransomsthere was an interview with a female FBI high rank person years ago, i forgot her name. in the interview she says that there is an FBI agent that investigated mt. gox hack and stole BTC/money too, he was clever since he knew how to mix and was careful with his tracks...i remember her saying "mixing does not work". (might be wrong on some details) edit: it was silk road not mt.gox |
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January 17, 2020, 01:58:58 PM |
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2020 will be the year of the pumpkin?  |
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Craig must be a pathological liar in the clinical sense -- nothing metaphorical about it. Pathological liar, as in, he's a sociopath who is missing a chunk in his prefrontal cortex that is responsible for the most human of emotions -- mainly empathy and shame. I'm saying his neurobiology is flawed. Its actually not his fault, either. Anybody here want to make a gentleman's wager than CSW never moves a single satoshi BTC? I'm willing to bet you 1 BSV that Craig doesn't move a single BTC within a year from today. Of course the address I provide you for delivery of my BSV will undoubtedly be an exchange. If I lose then it will be incredibly humiliating for me as I'll actually have to purchase a BSV. Any takers? |
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January 17, 2020, 05:07:59 PM
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those days are long gone.
That wasn't mixed properly. I said, if you know how to do it. How are you going to trace a transaction that went through several rounds of JoinMarket / CoinJoin / Wasabi mixing among hundreds of participants each round, unless you had access to each and everyone's wallets at the time? Tech is also improving and making it simpler for people, but still, you must understand how it works and why it works, not just trusting that using some wallet add on thing is going to anonymize your coins. |
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January 17, 2020, 05:41:37 PM |
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those days are long gone.
That wasn't mixed properly. I said, if you know how to do it. How are you going to trace a transaction that went through several rounds of JoinMarket / CoinJoin / Wasabi mixing among hundreds of participants each round, unless you had access to each and everyone's wallets at the time? me? i can't and i don't know....the 3 letter government agencies-->that i would not underestimate, and i don't know their methods. and they already caught people who use mixers. If i found the link to that interview i'll post it here, it is from their mouth not mine-mixing coins is not anonymous. bitcoin blockchain is inherently transparent, when things are transparent, it is only a matter of figuring/timing/tracing/analyzing stuff because there is something to look at. just like IP addresses. TOR is mixing IP's and this. https://www.techtimes.com/articles/167002/20160626/the-fbi-can-still-spy-on-you-even-if-youre-using-tor-and-dont-ask-why.htm |
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January 17, 2020, 05:49:07 PM |
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Yeah, it's like the other guy claiming this and that about quantum computing breaking 4096 RSA key pairs or brute forcing 256 bit AES.
Not gonna happen, at least for those.
As for the mixing, it just wasn't done properly, or the agent who tried to do it was lazy, or there was another error in his process that lead to discovery.
If done properly, there is no way anyone else finds out about it, except maybe that somewhere along the line, your transaction got mixed with a few thousand others.
As for PlayPen.. the site itself got hacked by the FBI, so any normal user that connected to it during that time is going to get screwed. I don't know why people pay for porn when it's available for free.
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January 17, 2020, 05:54:51 PM |
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Craig must be a pathological liar in the clinical sense -- nothing metaphorical about it. Pathological liar, as in, he's a sociopath who is missing a chunk in his prefrontal cortex that is responsible for the most human of emotions -- mainly empathy and shame. I'm saying his neurobiology is flawed. Its actually not his fault, either. Anybody here want to make a gentleman's wager than CSW never moves a single satoshi BTC? I'm willing to bet you 1 BSV that Craig doesn't move a single BTC within a year from today. Of course the address I provide you for delivery of my BSV will undoubtedly be an exchange. If I lose then it will be incredibly humiliating for me as I'll actually have to purchase a BSV. Any takers? If u havnt , get some popcorn ready BitCoin is the original BitCoin All the rest is popcorn at best |
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January 17, 2020, 05:58:01 PM
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Yeah, it's like the other guy claiming this and that about quantum computing breaking 4096 RSA key pairs or brute forcing 256 bit AES.
Not gonna happen, at least for those.
As for the mixing, it just wasn't done properly, or the agent who tried to do it was lazy, or there was another error in his process that lead to discovery.
If done properly, there is no way anyone else finds out about it, except maybe that somewhere along the line, your transaction got mixed with a few thousand others.
As for PlayPen.. the site itself got hacked by the FBI, so any normal user that connected to it during that time is going to get screwed. I don't know why people pay for porn when it's available for free.
encryption is not mixing. encryption - do you have the key to the room? if not, stay out. mixing - dabs is in the room with other people, you are welcome inside and find him. you choose which kind of privacy you want  and if it is the government that will do the finding, well... you have to be a lot better than the federal agent that this prosecutor caught LOL anyway, found it: https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2016/11/01/federal-prosecutor-kathryn-haun-on-how-criminals-use-bitcoin-and-how-she-catches-them/#758644f31871
listen to the audio, the article is short found a youtube link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktkORjPHZvEanything is possible but that would be a hell lot of effort into -->"If done properly" LOL |
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