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July 30, 2020, 10:37:20 AM
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If bearexin and harizen understand and accept our position, and are ready to follow our rules, we are open to accepting them in the campaign.
You made an announcement that there are 4 new slots for Senior/Hero/Legendary rank participants. If bearexin and harizen are willing to accept your conditions, will the open slots remain 4 or will it become 2?

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July 30, 2020, 10:45:55 AM
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If bearexin and harizen understand and accept our position, and are ready to follow our rules, we are open to accepting them in the campaign.
You made an announcement that there are 4 new slots for Senior/Hero/Legendary rank participants. If bearexin and harizen are willing to accept your conditions, will the open slots remain 4 or will it become 2?

4 slots are open.

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July 30, 2020, 11:02:40 AM
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July 30, 2020, 11:20:19 AM
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@Best_Change Can we ask for a vacation? Sometimes we travel for a while and we will not be able to post, as I have some master's degree exams in the coming weeks. Cry
So I think if you add a rule, for example, you can ask for a vacation for a week or two without getting paid, it will be better. Cheesy



We have an important announcement for those participants  who abuse posting in Spam Megathreads. Guys, if you don't fix it, we'll remove you from our campaign. Posting in Spam Megathreads is almost a 100% attempt to trick the advertiser. Moreover, it is just spam that uglify the forum.
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If you post 4 posts per day, you will get 28, and then you can post in that Spam Megathreads as long as you have post more than 25 good posts and helped promote the campaign. Is it difficult to make 4 posts per day in all boards except Megathreads?

@Best_Change please add that rule to the first page.


Will any rule related to Merits be added? I mean, if a person has not gain a single Merit since joining, does he deserve to be paid? True?


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July 30, 2020, 11:41:08 AM
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July 30, 2020, 11:48:29 AM
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I really don't think you should apply this way.

Less than a day has passed since your first application, and the decisions on the members admitted to the company have not yet been made.

The number of applications will definitely not increase your chances, but rather the opposite, because it can be regarded as spam.

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July 30, 2020, 12:19:41 PM
Last edit: July 30, 2020, 12:37:32 PM by coinfinger
 #1047

Out of 7 removed participants, 2 already got back their slots and 3 people submitted detailed report.

2 more people need to submit : Avirunes and coinfinger.

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I am working on Avirunes right now.


@Best_Change:
I hope these reports will help you take decisions. Thank you.
Hey thanks for this. I will submit my report. Any time limit on this? I am on mobile and I can submit in 15 to 20 min.

Here is my detailed report :

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July 30, 2020, 01:14:07 PM
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July 30, 2020, 01:55:02 PM
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 #1049

Guys, we reviewed your posts and decided to exclude you. Since our obligations are completely fulfiled and money are paid in full, we have no reason to continue the discussion. We bear the costs of the project and we have the right to decide who will participate in the campaign and who will not. We are sorry, but we have no time to explain our position to every participant again and again. Our opinion is already written above. We wish the best of luck in other campaigns to all excluded participants.


@hugeblack,

Perhaps in the future we will introduce some rules regarding merits. That’s actually a good idea, thank you! However, you need to be attentive with this strategy. Whether a person has or doesn’t have merits is not always a good indicator of posts quality.

As for the vacation question, at the moment, we do not see a special rule regarding vacations. You can drop us a PM starting your dates of absence from gadgets/the forum.

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July 30, 2020, 02:23:58 PM
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July 30, 2020, 02:33:19 PM
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@Best_Change

Just a random thought, not sure how others would react on this? But, instead of having $90 pay rate per week and having 25 posts as minimum you can consider paying $3.5 per post for Hero/Legendary Members. You can implement a rule like there is no minimum post count and you would be paying a maximum of upto 25-30 posts per week. Well, we can be very much sure that greedy spammers would try to reach their 25/30 posts somehow to grab the highest pay but on the other hand, this would differentiate spammers and non-spammers.

Right now, many in the campaign are forced to reach 25 posts minimum eventhough they are somewhat decent posters while comparing spammers which would eventually make them spam at some point in time in a week when they didn't reach the minimum. I personally consider this approach had a wider reach (ex. Chipmixer) than many campaigns which were indeed paying a little less than CM. If the quality participants wear the signature, the campaign would be having the best outreach instead of handing over to redundant posters who post 25 meaningless posts and are indeed a much less value to the forum.

I am not sure if someone has suggested this idea before, but we all know the outreach of no minimum post count campaigns like CM!!!
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July 30, 2020, 02:56:08 PM
Last edit: July 30, 2020, 05:11:08 PM by Rikafip
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Well, we can be very much sure that greedy spammers would try to reach their 25/30 posts somehow to grab the highest pay but on the other hand, this would differentiate spammers and non-spammers.
To be honest, if someone makes only 15 posts per week that doesn't make him good poster, same as writing 40-50 posts per week doesn't make you spammer or bad poster (quite a few CM members reach 50 posts cap each week). So even if Best_Change implements what you suggested, it wouldn't automatically differentiate bad from good poster. You simply have to look at each poster individually, no matter the payment system.
It's true though that no minimum would give more room to good posters that for some reason don't have enough time to meet week quota, but from what I noticed Best_Change is somewhat lenient there so if you are ocassionaly few posts short you won't be kicked immediately.

I like @Best_Change approach as it is, where they are constantly "pruning" out less quality/active members and substituting with better ones, making campaign more quality, therefore more successful (we can see that it works, as it's getting harder and harder to get into campaign, competition is tough and you have to be good to get in ).

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July 30, 2020, 03:18:44 PM
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Guys, we reviewed your posts and decided to exclude you. Since our obligations are completely fulfiled and money are paid in full, we have no reason to continue the discussion. We bear the costs of the project and we have the right to decide who will participate in the campaign and who will not. We are sorry, but we have no time to explain our position to every participant again and again. Our opinion is already written above. We wish the best of luck in other campaigns to all excluded participants.
observe & watch;
Now different is more assertive & professional.

This time your decisions and words are right on target and correct.
You are campaign manager, you have full rights to the rules and conclusions about the participants of the BestChange campaign.

Solve this problem, take the participants that you think, the company and the BestChange team, are eligible to be included in the new participant campaign.
The sooner the better.

Anyone has the right to accept the decisions that have been issued by the campaign manager, even though that happened to me.
Of course this decision is hard, but the manager, has a team of decisions that have been taken at this time.

@Best_Change, do your best, you & your team know better, "progress" of the BestChange company now and in the future.

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July 30, 2020, 05:00:31 PM
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Just a random thought, not sure how others would react on this? But, instead of having $90 pay rate per week and having 25 posts as minimum you can consider paying $3.5 per post for Hero/Legendary Members. You can implement a rule like there is no minimum post count and you would be paying a maximum of upto 25-30 posts per week.
There are two types of campaigns: fixed payment with fixed number of posts; Pay per post (post more and earn more)

Companies have different targets and they will have different decisions to run different campaign types.

- Fixed payments will bring more stable effects from signature and participants.
- Pay per post will bring more flexibile effects.
Which types of campaign, the quality of participants is important and manager is hired for the tasks: choosing good participants, and forcing them to maintain their good quality posts to get payments.
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Types of campaigns:

There are generally two types of campaigns: 'Fixed' campaigns which offer a fixed amount of bitcoins for a minimum of X amount of posts and 'Pay Per Post' which is pretty self-explanatory. Pay Per Post campaigns pay for every post that a user makes and thus tend to be the most abused whilst fixed campaigns tend to limit the amount of spam generated. It's up to you which campaign you choose and both are fine just as long as you have someone monitoring them. If you don't then either form of campaign will be abused. If you want to check out or compare other signature campaigns an overview of all the currently active ones can be found here.
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If you can't find a 2 or 3 pager thread in a section ( I doubt it ) where you want to post, then just open a new one but make sure it is interesting and timely, as simple as that so you can avoid writing on megathreads.
Campaign like this, that has been around for many months should be kept progressive, I understand the call of the Bestchange on changing the rules. Must follow if you want to keep your signature.

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July 30, 2020, 05:20:41 PM
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If you can't find a 2 or 3 pager thread in a section ( I doubt it ) where you want to post, then just open a new one but make sure it is interesting and timely, as simple as that so you can avoid writing on megathreads.
It is not a wisely way to get acceptance for your posts.

Do neither post if you don't see reasons to posts (questions are already answered) nor your idea and information is bad, boring, not creative, not helpful.

Do not create a new thread (yours) only because you don't find any thread to release your posts. No idea, just create threads because you need a place to get post count and just to avoid spam mega threads. It is where spam mega threads are born for: place to post and get postcount, and activities.

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July 30, 2020, 06:02:48 PM
 #1057

As all other bounty types, signature bounty has mutated into something that's not supposed to be.
IMHO signature bounty should be a way to reward people for their contribution on the forum and crypto in general, while providing advertisement to the company sponsoring it.
But nowadays, many people consider bounty as "work" and a chore, that's why these guys are fighting so hard not to be excluded, because they're counting on that money.

Having said that, imho the fairest approach to signature bounty, from company that's sponsoring it perspective, would be for the manager, having full authority, read every single post, and decide which post should be rewarded. This method however would take too much time, and person running the bounty would get a headache every day checking dozens of people.

So i agree with @best_change, it's their porogative to accept what they want to sponsor and what not, especially since money put into this on a weekly basis is not insefnificant.
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I just started this topic and will love to hear your opinion : Is it a right approach a campaign decides where you to post?
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 #1059

I just started this topic and will love to hear your opinion : Is it a right approach a campaign decides where you to post?
That wasn't necessary, I don't think the decision they made should be up for discussion in reputation board. They already issued a warning last week and on top of that It's their money. So why don't we give them a right to choose what they like if they have paid everyone in full?

We have seen certain CMs remove excellent posters from participating in their sig campaigns but i haven't seen such complaints or topics about it in reputation board except thanking them for the time they were offered to participate in the campaign. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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July 30, 2020, 09:21:21 PM
Last edit: July 31, 2020, 04:52:29 AM by Coolcryptovator
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 #1060

Guys! Why so much violence regarding removal decisions? Please learn to respect the manager's decisions on those campaigns you are participating in. This violence reminds me of a quote;

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“If you don’t like a Rule…Just Follow it…Reach on the Top…And Change the Rule.” -Adolf Hitler

Honestly, I was trying to avoid discussion regarding removal. Because of its manager's decision and we should appreciate it. We forgot that manager isn't obliged to explain regarding removal. "He is the payer and we are the beggar taker, and beggar taker can't be a chooser". Its manager right to choose perfect participants for his campaign since they have their standards. Please let him do his job.

Just contribute yourself to the forum and hope you will get in a better campaign.

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