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April 05, 2023, 06:02:59 PM
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Even the administration of this forum considers mixers to be bad actors Smiley
We have very little information about what motivated the decision by theymos making it a reach to suggest that he thinks mixers are bad actors. And even if the admin thought them to be bad actors, that doesn't automatically make them so. We all can do our independent thinking.

Everyone has their personal opinion, same way everyone has a right to seek out privacy.

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April 06, 2023, 04:12:03 AM
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In other words you are suggesting mixers are bad actors, only the low moral people need mixers and promoters are the same.

So I am not a drag mafia, I am not a rapist, I am not a child abusers, I am just a regular joe who value my privacy. When I need to protect my Bitcoin from bad actors including the so called authority, I will use a mixer. You are saying I am a low value person?

No, you've invented that part. Please re-read our message, we didn't say that. Not all people who use mixers or play in casinos are necessarily bad or of low moral. But such projects have a dubious reputation in society. Whether this is fair or not is beyond the scope of our discussion. But the fact is that a person who advertises a casino or a mixer is perceived by an outside observer with a somewhat negative attitude. Perhaps we are wrong, and the world has long left these stereotypes behind?

You are talking about money laundering, how would you prevent it if someone from USA sending money to Russia usimg your exchange? More or less you are into money laundering too. You are not using banking channel.

So in that perspective, you are not different too. You are using words to justify the logics you believe or trying your best to get your business from here. It's fine but don't paint others with bad to make you look you good.

We are sorry if it sounded like that, we didn't mean that some projects are better or worse. But still, in our opinion, some of the projects, deservedly or not, have ideas condemned by society at their core. If the casino is the norm for you, it's great, it's not bad and it's not good, it's just the norm for you. But in society, the casino has a bad reputation, not always deserved, but it is. We are only talking about this.

And returning to money laundering, not all transactions outside the bank are laundering, but your remark is fair. But we would advise you to pay attention to the aspect of how deeply the business is immersed in a particular activity. Or, to continue your analogy, we are only sellers of kitchen knives or we are a manufacturer of military knives.

I can't prove now but if by any chance I was in your campaign, I would volunteer to leave after reading this piece of criticism against privacy. Privacy is more important than money and Bitcoin allows me to stay safe.

Privacy is great, but you don't have to use mixers for that. We also love privacy, so we don’t even store user data with us, only some anonymous bits of information that help make the service better. In this aspect, we do not understand your remark.

I have no interest is gambling project.

Excellent! This is a great choice. But what does our campaign has to do with it?


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In other words you are suggesting mixers are bad actors, only the low moral people need mixers and promoters are the same.
Even the administration of this forum considers mixers to be bad actors Smiley
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5445490.msg61981665#msg61981665
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I disagree. It might only be for the safety of the forum's staff and the forum. We do not want a government agency to take our forum down also hehehe. @theymos made a good decision.

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It is no secret that projects with a dubious reputation that are related to money laundering or gambling earn much more than us, so they can easily spend much more than us, with our honest business this race will be lost in advance. Therefore, we are not going to compete with other companies.

If we talk about our advantages, where we can compete with other signature campaigns is our stability and purity of intentions. The ethics of our project is not tarnished by flirting with gambling addiction or helping scammers. Yes, not all mixer users and casino players are lost persons, but let's be honest with each other, this is not a business to be proud of promoting[/¡]. Will you earn more? Most likely, although not by much. But will you get moral satisfaction from promoting such products? Everything here is very individual. We do not impose our vision on you, but personally we would not be so pleased to promote a business built on the exploitation of human vices.
We obviously, some statements on here was going to raise some arguments and I would say, there are some not so great statements but still, they are all subject to interpretation and clarification. I am sure this was a thought of and timed write up. Of course I went through the whole thing as the green campaign remains one of the prestigious and its participants bond as like a family is one any user on the forum would want to be a part of, I want to be a part of but, that doesn't mean, users promoting mixers and casinos aren't have less standards than others.

I could recall the hundreds of applications that comes pouring in over a single open slot in the blesses memory Chipmixer campaign, of course I didn't keep a tab on you Best_Change but, yeah, a lot of users did which to work with these guys and we truly had a place or some deal of regard for those participating there. For some, it's a matter of opportunity and the mind that they are supporting a great course and the intentions of customers are left out. Am sur3 if they know the intentions of those who patronise them, they would be sure to cut off any abrupt vice in customer behaviour.

It wouldn't be so great to detest the service instead of the human behaviour of the human that have been known to abuse or have no limits to what length they are willing to go about a service. Satoshi created bitcoin to ensure we are private and ultimate on our financial affairs and then some users use this advantage to shield themselves from traces by law enforcement and we have people laying blames on the currency but, the currency did no wrong, had no negative master mind and all is a people or person coordinated scheme. Mixers are there to increase privacy, casinos provides you with games to ease stress with a possibility of winning, an in-house feel of what is out there and as well keep you away from not so great individuals while ensuring they stay fair to you. Your still advised to use the services responsibly and not being able to qualify that by any means is the reason why, the above 18years of age T&C to play as an age of reasoning and financial capacity is noted.

It's really the individual and not the service as, there can't be questions asked. Most times is based on trust that customers do the right thing and not to harass them by subjecting them to several interviews. Let's distance the service from the person.
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April 06, 2023, 10:28:40 AM
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In other words you are suggesting mixers are bad actors, only the low moral people need mixers and promoters are the same.
Even the administration of this forum considers mixers to be bad actors Smiley
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5445490.msg61981665#msg61981665
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I disagree. It might only be for the safety of the forum's staff and the forum. We do not want a government agency to take our forum down also hehehe. @theymos made a good decision.
I read a lot of US and European legal information. The presence of Chipmixer ads (not to mention the presence of many other mixers here) on this forum already allows law enforcement agencies to put forward ads against the forum administration. The charges can be different, and very significant. Therefore, I think that in the next few years the rules on the forum will change or the forum will change jurisdiction or @theymos will give control to other people. A criminal charge against such a forum will cause a lot of noise and discontent in the news, because this is a forum, not an exchange message board or a crypto exchange. But nevertheless, the possibility is always present. And when the regulator punishes all the big whales, it can start to deal with smaller fish.



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