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January 21, 2020, 04:23:16 PM
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I have not heard before about 'Changeangel' exchange before you mention here. I have searched on forum about their exchange if there is any official announcement thread, but unfortunately they don't have any.
As I said, I was too lazy to un-ignore the ANN section in order to search, but it's not surprising they don't have a thread.  I think they're new and although I'm not endorsing them, I have used them for small trades with no problem.  I definitely wouldn't risk big amounts of crypto on some no-name instant exchange, which is basically what Changeangel is at this point. 

I've listed them but do they have any threads on the forums? I couldn't find any.
Apparently not. 

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January 21, 2020, 08:45:41 PM
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Not sure. Mind explaining how does the exchange exactly works? It looks more of a search engine.

I can see that whenever you choose the pairs you want to trade, a list of exchanges is given to you. Do they buy the crypto from these exchanges using their accounts API and then re-sell it on their platform?
Yep, it's more like an exchange marketplace. The list of partner exchanges that appear show the different rates for comparison, so, in away the list gives the person who wants to exchange his coins a choice.

When you want to exchange, they provide you with a wallet you send coins to, then they do the who swap process for you within around 5 minutes from the exchange of your choice.

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As i was searching about it in the forum, I found some member who made a summarized guide of how to swap. Maybe it can help you understand how the service works: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5115860.msg50083602#msg50083602

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January 22, 2020, 09:05:38 PM
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Thanks for compiling the list, I'll try to run through them to find the actual fees present and report back here. Would be nicer for people when deciding to know what exactly 'fixed fee' means for the site, so I'll go grab those and post again with them.

+Merited.

Edit: Ah, I see that fixed fee is more pointing to the FIXED RATE portion of things on these websites. Going to be hard to find the fees, as they're going to be ever changing depending on the spread. Welp.




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January 22, 2020, 10:28:50 PM
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@OmegaStarScream

I mentioned Changehero in my post but then removed it because the next day someone created this topic
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219589.msg53667163#msg53667163

It's the only user I found but the site isn't big as others, maybe it deserves to add 🔴 to warn people?

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January 26, 2020, 08:02:32 PM
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put a red dot on changelly make me laugh .... the only exchange with a reactive customer service, already several problems with them, it has always been resolved ..... you should review your logic of who scam who .. ..

ex/ ChangeAngel.io    1000dgb =0.00073 btc by cons on their site these 0.0002 btc oO ....

at least check the exchange rates before listing them .... i won't even finish looking at changelly suits me very well!
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January 26, 2020, 08:33:40 PM
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put a red dot on changelly make me laugh .... the only exchange with a reactive customer service, already several problems with them, it has always been resolved ..... you should review your logic of who scam who .. ..
Instead of coming here to blindly shill the well known selective scammers, Please head over to the scam accusations board and type "Changelly" in the search button and you see for yourself.
I wonder what your motive is here  Roll Eyes

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January 26, 2020, 09:06:04 PM
Last edit: January 26, 2020, 09:18:32 PM by Mikadodu13
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put a red dot on changelly make me laugh .... the only exchange with a reactive customer service, already several problems with them, it has always been resolved ..... you should review your logic of who scam who .. ..
Instead of coming here to blindly shill the well known selective scammers, Please head over to the scam accusations board and type "Changelly" in the search button and you see for yourself.
I wonder what your motive is here  Roll Eyes

I watched the subject on changelyly it dates from 2016, you want me to send you the email to exchange with them? I had transaction errors ect, I asked for the cancellation of my order it was returned without any worries or additional costs ....

then my motivation, when I see changelly being treated as a scam, while other sites are more than suspect and worrying are freely displayed ....

Anyway, I just see ...

i see that i wonder who scams who?  https://anonfile.com/P3kfD2Q5n0/qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq_png

if he wants to list the exchanges which does it loyally! these steps because changelly had a problem or problems that scam you .... I use their service for 4 years no worries ....
if a transaction takes too long a small message to the support of the site and I cancel my transaction, can the same be said of the others? ....
In short instead of reading sayings will try the service and we will talk about it again ....
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January 28, 2020, 08:48:56 AM
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Added all the mentioned exchanges to the list. Thanks, everyone!

OP does coinswitch.co also fall in this category of instant exchanges? If it does then here are the details:

Not sure. Mind explaining how does the exchange exactly works? It looks more of a search engine.

I can see that whenever you choose the pairs you want to trade, a list of exchanges is given to you. Do they buy the crypto from these exchanges using their accounts API and then re-sell it on their platform?


@OmegaStarScream here is the some details that would help you understand how CoinSwitch.co works.

About CoinSwitch:
CoinSwitch.co is the world’s largest cryptocurrency exchange aggregator. It provides an exchange service of over 300 cryptocurrencies and over 45,000 pairs from leading exchanges like Binance, HUOBI, Ethfinex, KuCoin, HitBTC, and IDEX. It provides an easy way for users to trade coins across multiple exchanges based on price and reliability.

Step by Step Youtube Tutorial to make an order at Coinswitch :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9P1MilTbW0

Their fee:
CoinSwitch charges a fee of 0% to 0.49% depending on the exchange you select for your transaction. The conversion rate you see is inclusive of the fees.
Note: This fees does not include any amount charged by the exchange itself and the network fee.

These information is from their FAQ page:
https://coinswitch.co/#faq

Hope this would help.

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January 31, 2020, 03:40:11 AM
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Thanks for the list, I want to try Godex because that site doesn't require registration and no KYC why it has been not popular yet when shapeshift and chagelly has lot of issues recently? Huh

They can be trusted for any amount?
I think it's a matter of time before Godex goes hard on the KYC stuff. Remember, Changelly was like that when it started operations until it had to force users (I was affected too) to a mandatory KYC. Let's enjoy the Godex moment while it lasts. This isn't taking anything away from the OP's compilation compilation.

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January 31, 2020, 02:28:49 PM
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Since some people don't seem to understand why some exchanges are 'dangerous' to use, I decided to post the scam accusations (that I find to be serious) against these platforms:

Changelly:

- Suddenly changelly requires a KYC / AML procedure. But how do I proof ownership of my coins??
- CHANGELLY - Illegal exchanger from RUSSIA with FAKE team
- Russian Changelly, Atomic Wallet, ChangeNOW, Guarda, Ink.one, Evercode Lab


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January 31, 2020, 10:47:08 PM
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Okay firstly, thank you for this list, it feels good to have multiple alternatives to shapeshift. The KYC requirement for their exchange saddened me to quite an extent. I have heard quite a lot about flyp.me, so I might give it a go. Also, Coinswitch seems amazing, its apparently an instant exchange that takes offers from other exchanges, automatically trades for you, and sends you your desired currency. Gotta admit, its pretty dope.

Also, why keep exchanges like Changelly and Changehero on the list? They are shady at the least, and if people use this thread as a basis to go changelly and get their coins stuck or anything, then the whole point of this thread would be in vain.

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January 31, 2020, 11:13:43 PM
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@OmegaStarScream i recommend adding a new heading (like "scam accusations") under changelly, changehero, and similar exchanges. most people probably won't scroll to the bottom to read the legend.

Also, why keep exchanges like Changelly and Changehero on the list? They are shady at the least, and if people use this thread as a basis to go changelly and get their coins stuck or anything, then the whole point of this thread would be in vain.

i still see lots of people who swear by changelly (some of whom posted in this thread). it reminds me of the situation with BTC-E a few years ago: the vast majority of people had no issues with them, but a few people got selectively scammed. that was enough to paint their bitcointalk account red, but nevertheless, BTC-E was still widely trusted across the entire ecosystem. i used (and trusted) BTC-E until the day they were taken down.

maybe there is some middle ground here?

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February 02, 2020, 09:08:01 PM
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Just after doing some inital looking at some of the fees (the difference in exchange rate between some sites and a site like binance) This would mean that the fee (or convenience fee) for using a site like FixedFloat would be in the realm of .6-.5 percent. So about 1/2 a percent. This means that when they say fixed float, they're not messing around.

Not that bad to be honest, I think that's pretty solid if you want to try to be as anonymous as possible or if you want to use the LN (which is possible on Fixed Float)

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February 04, 2020, 03:01:45 PM
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i still see lots of people who swear by changelly (some of whom posted in this thread). it reminds me of the situation with BTC-E a few years ago: the vast majority of people had no issues with them, but a few people got selectively scammed. that was enough to paint their bitcointalk account red, but nevertheless, BTC-E was still widely trusted across the entire ecosystem. i used (and trusted) BTC-E until the day they were taken down.

maybe there is some middle ground here?
I mean, the same logic could also be applied to yobit also then, because not everyone on yobit has been scammed either. But will you recommend people to use yobit? I don't think any sane person would willingly do so.

I had genuinely thought changelly and shapeshift could change the exchange game in the market back then, and the change did happen, but in more of a negative way, so yeah I wouldn't recommend people to use changelly. Keeping changelly's name on the list is pretty much recommending people to use it, and I don't think the name should be on the list.

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February 05, 2020, 01:59:31 AM
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Keeping changelly's name on the list is pretty much recommending people to use it, and I don't think the name should be on the list.

But would censoring help in the long run? Even if they didn't see the shady exchanges here, there's still a fair chance they would in other places especially for popular exchanges like Changelly. Worse it could be a positive content that can lead to them trying the exchange and encounter problems like stuck funds.

There are two reasons why I won't try an exchange (talking about first try), it's either I have no idea it existed or I know it's too risky. I think it's better this way laying it all out. Since they're here viewing this thread might as well see what needs to be seen.

Maybe op can put an addition to the emoji for warnings like what @figmentofmyass suggested making it impossible not to check their scam accusations? lastly, how about placing the legend on top before the first exchange?

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February 16, 2020, 02:13:27 PM
Last edit: February 16, 2020, 02:24:03 PM by LeGaulois
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A couple of services to add in the original post if it's possible:

Name: MorphToken
Ann thread: n/a
KYC: No
Fees type: variable from 0.5% to 0.7%
Supported coins: 6

Name: Bity
Ann thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1352830.0
KYC: No
Fees type: ? (couldn't find, except when we exchange with fiats)
Supported coins: 2

Name: Fox.Exchange
Ann thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104721.msg49524421#msg49524421
KYC: No
Fees type: variable 0% to 0.49%
Supported coins: 17

Name: InstaEx
Ann thread: n/a
KYC: No
Fees type: fixed rate
Supported coins: ~110

Name: Boltz
Ann thread: n/a
KYC: No
Fees type: variable from 0.5% to 2%
Supported coins: 2 (LN)

Other services (LN, Atomic swap) and source I used to format the list: https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/cd1fr8/list_of_nokyc_instant_exchanges/


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The only exchanges I would trust from that list are changelly and shapeshift, and you didn't add xchange from freebitcoins.

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February 17, 2020, 10:16:13 PM
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Changehero.io:
- ChangeHero.io - exchanger scammed me for 21 010 USDT (EDIT: I still haven't read ChangeHero's new post)
The case was resolved and the money has been sent back to the owner. Here is the full response from changehero: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219589.msg53745329#msg53745329


The only exchanges I would trust from that list are changelly and shapeshift
This can't be an objective opinion because i don't expect you had try all the exchanges in the list. Some of them are also trusted even more than Changelly and Shapeshift.
You somehow missed to take a look at the accusations against them listed in a previous post :
As long they are proven guilty, i can't trust them or recommend them to others even i didn't face any issue while using them.


you didn't add xchange from freebitcoins.
This is a good one but not that much popular. Maybe more trusted than Changelly and Shapeshift. I wish people won't get confused with xchange.me which is another project (no reviews) or with xchange trading app which is a confirmed scam.
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March 10, 2020, 10:30:17 AM
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Since we're starting to see more and more "Instant exchanges" lately, and Changelly/ShapeShift are no longer controlling that market. I decided to make a list of these exchanges, hopefully some of you might find it helpful.


Hello,

We are sorry to see our service marked as not recommended to use in your list. Changelly has been operating since 2015, and many users from all over the world have trusted us to exchange their funds since.
Regarding the links you posted, 2 of them are related to an issue that occurred on another service and has nothing to do with Changelly. In regards to the KYC procedure, the transaction in question was completed and the customer received a full refund.
Actually, speaking of KYC checks: this procedure was implemented in order to comply with the regulators’ policies and combat money laundering. We process a huge number of transactions daily and KYC helps us prevent fraud and, consequently, protect innocent users. There are plenty of cases when we receive hacked crypto from different services, like Bancor, Coincheck, Bithumb and so forth. We also help legal authorities find hackers and return the stolen money. In fact, 99.9% of all transactions do not go through the KYC check.
Changelly team would like to offer you an opportunity to make a transaction on our service and tell Bitcointalk users about your experience. Please DM us so we could discuss the details.

Changelly is a non-custodial instant cryptocurrency exchange. We act as an intermediary between crypto exchanges and users, offering access to 150+ cryptocurrencies. The company mission is making exchange process effortless for everyone who wants to invest in cryptocurrency. Operating since 2015, the platform and its mobile app attract over a million visitors monthly who enjoy high limits, fast transactions, and 24/7 live support.

Changelly offers its API and a customizable payment widget to any crypto service that wishes to broaden its audience and implement new exchange options. The platform also provides its Affiliate program with a 50% revenue share mechanism.

Changelly partners with Exodus, Binance, BRD, Coinpayments, Binance, Coinomi, Huobi Wallet and other well-known players in the crypto industry

We offer you an intuitive interface, the best exchange rates and secure transactions. We aspire to establish mutual trust with our clients; thereof we don’t have any hidden or unreasonable fees. We always charge only 0.5% fee for crypto-to-crypto transactions and that’s it, full stop.
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April 08, 2020, 11:33:47 AM
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Added all the mentioned exchanges to the list. Thanks, everyone!

OP does coinswitch.co also fall in this category of instant exchanges? If it does then here are the details:

Not sure. Mind explaining how does the exchange exactly works? It looks more of a search engine.

I can see that whenever you choose the pairs you want to trade, a list of exchanges is given to you. Do they buy the crypto from these exchanges using their accounts API and then re-sell it on their platform?


@OmegaStarScream here is the some details that would help you understand how CoinSwitch.co works.

About CoinSwitch:
CoinSwitch.co is the world’s largest cryptocurrency exchange aggregator. It provides an exchange service of over 300 cryptocurrencies and over 45,000 pairs from leading exchanges like Binance, HUOBI, Ethfinex, KuCoin, HitBTC, and IDEX. It provides an easy way for users to trade coins across multiple exchanges based on price and reliability.

Step by Step Youtube Tutorial to make an order at Coinswitch :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9P1MilTbW0

Their fee:
CoinSwitch charges a fee of 0% to 0.49% depending on the exchange you select for your transaction. The conversion rate you see is inclusive of the fees.
Note: This fees does not include any amount charged by the exchange itself and the network fee.

These information is from their FAQ page:
https://coinswitch.co/#faq

Hope this would help.
CoinSwitch - one of the best instant exchanges aggregator available out there - really should be on that list

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Thanks for compiling that list! It's very useful.

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