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Since we're starting to see more and more "Instant exchanges" lately, and Changelly/ShapeShift are no longer controlling that market. I decided to make a list of these exchanges, hopefully some of you might find it helpful. ❗ IMPORTANT ❗: The "no-KYC" services listed here can still ask you to verify your identity if they ever detect a "suspicious activity" in your account. Name: Godex.ioAnn thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4693949.0KYC: No Fees type: Fixed rate Supported coins: 201 Name: ⚡ ZigZag.io Ann thread: N/A KYC: No Fees type: Unknown Supported coins: 5 Name: ⚡ FixedFloat Ann thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5119443.0KYC: No Fees type: Fixed Rate (1%) and Float rate (0.5%). Supported coins: 18 Name: ShapeShift Ann thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717973.0 [Closed] KYC: Yes Fees type: Fixed Rate Supported coins: 44 Name: Flyp.me Ann thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3208626.360KYC: No Fees type: Fixed Rate Supported coins: 30+ Name: ⚡ CoinPlaza.it Ann thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093055.0KYC: No Fees type: Fixed Rate Supported coins: +20 Name: Stealthex Ann thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5063962KYC: No Fees type: Fixed Rate (0.4%) Supported coins: +250 Name: SimpleSwapAnn thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4187686.0KYC: No Fees Type: Fixed and Float Rate Supported coins: 300 Name: ExolixAnn thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185036.0KYC: No Fees type: Fixed rate Supported coins: 163 Name: ChangeAngel.ioAnn thread: N/A KYC: No Fees type: Fixed rate Supported coins: +50 Name: ChangeHero.ioAnn thread: N/A KYC: No Fees type: Fixed rate Supported coins: +25 Name: BityAnn thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1352830.0KYC: No Fees type: ? (couldn't find, except when we exchange with fiats) Supported coins: 2 Name: ⚡ BoltzAnn thread: n/a KYC: No Fees type: variable from 0.5% to 2% Supported coins: 2 (LN) Name: swapspace.coAnn thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221659.0KYC: No Fees type: fixed rate Supported coins: +300 Name: sideshift.aiAnn thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096550KYC: No Fees type: fixed or variable Supported coins: 28 Name: easybit.comAnn thread: N/A KYC: No (creating an account is optional) Fees type: ixed rates Supported coins: +50 Name: Altquick.comAnn thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111785KYC: No Fees type: Fixed Rate (0.2% XChange) and Fixed rate (1% Swap). [Free trading on XChange until at least 11/08/2020 as part of promotion] Name: Evonax.com Ann thread: n/a KYC: No Fees type: Fixed rate (4% ?) Supported coins: 11 (+USD Paypal) Remark: It's possible to use Changelly without going through the KYC procedure, however, there have been many cases where users were forced to submit their documents, in order to get their funds back. ⚡ = the exchange supports the lightning network. If you think there is something I need to edit or you have an exchange to add, please let me know.
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January 17, 2020, 07:07:40 PM |
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For a long time I could not decide on a good exchanger. I was always afraid to send my money to sites with even good reviews and I never wanted to go through a document check. Godex looks very, very good, thanks, you helped a lot. About edit: From the first, I did not even figure out which one was scam. Please change the icon to a more visible one and strip it red, if not difficult, it will be much better. Like: ☢ or ☠
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January 17, 2020, 07:56:55 PM |
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Thanks for the list, I want to try Godex because that site doesn't require registration and no KYC why it has been not popular yet when shapeshift and chagelly has lot of issues recently? They can be trusted for any amount?
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@Findingnemo regarding Godex. I haven't used their services before so I can't really vouch for them. I would suggest you do your own research before using them (or any other exchange from the list).
@elmanchez these emojis seem to be displaying just fine for me. Which OS and browser are you using?
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January 17, 2020, 08:49:09 PM |
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@Findingnemo regarding Godex. I haven't used their services before so I can't really vouch for them. I would suggest you do your own research before using them (or any other exchange from the list).
@elmanchez these emojis seem to be displaying just fine for me. Which OS and browser are you using?
Windows 7 Ultimate , Brave browser latest version
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you might add https://flyp.me/ to the list. i've used them a few times without complaints. they don't have huge liquidity but it's more than enough for most small/casual users. like most exchanges, there is a scam accusation or two out there. however, the lack of complaint volume leads me to believe the above accusation does not necessarily tell the full story or indicate typical user experience. btc-e, bitfinex, and many other legitimate exchanges have faced plenty of similar complaints. Name: flyp.me Ann thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3208626.360KYC: No Fees type: Fixed rate Supported coins: 30+
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January 17, 2020, 09:59:37 PM Last edit: January 18, 2020, 08:24:22 AM by LoyceMobile |
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Can you add the exchange from my signature? I mainly like it because it allows very small exchanges, and doesn't charge a transaction fee (only a percentage).
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I've been using Changenow lately without any issues.
They generally provide better rates on smaller transactions compared to Changelly which charges a 0.0003 BTC flat transaction fee on all BTC related output.
I would only recommend changenow for small amounts though because of the fact that they've had trouble with KYC before, despite advertising themselves as an anonymous exchange in the past. Though I haven't had any troubles with them personally, I've kept my transaction size <0.01 BTC always and it doesn't guarantee that anyone else won't have issues with them.
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I've been using Changenow lately without any issues.
They generally provide better rates on smaller transactions compared to Changelly which charges a 0.0003 BTC flat transaction fee on all BTC related output.
I would only recommend changenow for small amounts though because of the fact that they've had trouble with KYC before, despite advertising themselves as an anonymous exchange in the past. Though I haven't had any troubles with them personally, I've kept my transaction size <0.01 BTC always and it doesn't guarantee that anyone else won't have issues with them.
Btw, IIRC, ChangeNow is either owned by Changelly or they use them and are just some kind of middleman. IIRC, someone had a lot of coins stuck in them for months and they said it was a problem on Changelly. Take a look at this long thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4619534.0
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Thanks for making the list, I was thinking of doing something similar after coming across the one Loyce's mobile UID mentioned (in my sig too).
Will advise if I come across any.
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That is good stuff, the list is very informative but so far I didn't experience them all aside from ShapeShift which is I used twice before. I have found one but I didn't sure about this. I'm searching in the forum there's no scam accusation I have found and they made an account here in the forum named, evonax. This is their instant exchange, https://www.evonax.com/faq. But I doubt why they dont have fees, how they can generate profit by that? Or selectively scamming users. But so far no complaints.
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Can you add the exchange from my signature? I mainly like it because it allows very small exchanges, and doesn't charge a transaction fee (only a percentage).
Nice exchange, i have just checked it out, and I am definitely going to bookmark it. The rates are one of the best and i love the bit of small exchanges too.
OP does coinswitch.co also fall in this category of instant exchanges? If it does then here are the details: Name: CoinswitchAnn thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2041972.0KYC: No Fees type: Fixed Rate Supported coins: 426
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OP does coinswitch.co also fall in this category of instant exchanges? If it does then here are the details: Name: CoinswitchCoinswitch seems to have another ann thread this was posted a year later than the first one but didn't have much posts and discussion since it was posted on the altcoin board.
Name: SimpleSwapAnn thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4187686.0KYC: No Fees Type: Fixed and Float Rate Supported coins : 300
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you might add https://flyp.me/ to the list. i've used them a few times without complaints. Same here, I was using them for GRC (I think) a while back and they were pretty reliable. I was looking for exchanges that sell RDD, as there aren't that many these days and I came across Changeangel, which is an instant exchange. I've used them about four times in the past month and have had no problems. No KYC is required. I have that ANN section on ignore and am too lazy to un-ignore it to check to see if Changeangel had a thread, so perhaps I'll leave it to someone to look up. Apparently you can't even search in sections you have on ignore.
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I have that ANN section on ignore and am too lazy to un-ignore it to check to see if Changeangel had a thread, so perhaps I'll leave it to someone to look up. Apparently you can't even search in sections you have on ignore.
I have not heard before about 'Changeangel' exchange before you mention here. I have searched on forum about their exchange if there is any official announcement thread, but unfortunately they don't have any. Although I had not use this exchange but looking good their exchange.
OP can take a look on Exolix exchange, although I had not used myself but according to team they got some traders from forum. I haven't seen any scam accusation against them yet. Its instant exchange and user could exchange crypto anonymously, registration isn't required. Name: Exolix.comAnn thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185036.0KYC: No Fees type: Fixed rate Supported coins: +115
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Changelly is a great exchange, why that bullshit red dot? shapeshift is decent aswell.
The reason is explained, isn't it? Is this the non-ref link you're talking about?[1] Looks like the volume is really low for some pairs. [1] https://freebitcoins.com/xchange/
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Changelly is a great exchange, why that bullshit red dot? shapeshift is decent aswell.
The reason is explained, isn't it? Is this the non-ref link you're talking about?[1] Looks like the volume is really low for some pairs. [1] https://freebitcoins.com/xchange/Changelly is a legit exchange. the other exchanges are unknown to me and I wouldn't use them except shapeshift. Freebitcoins is a new exchange was created initialy for clam and is slowly growing.
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i think you can add flyp.me into your list above? because they already support 30+ coins in their website
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Added all the mentioned exchanges to the list. Thanks, everyone! OP does coinswitch.co also fall in this category of instant exchanges? If it does then here are the details:
Not sure. Mind explaining how does the exchange exactly works? It looks more of a search engine. I can see that whenever you choose the pairs you want to trade, a list of exchanges is given to you. Do they buy the crypto from these exchanges using their accounts API and then re-sell it on their platform? I was looking for exchanges that sell RDD, as there aren't that many these days and I came across Changeangel, which is an instant exchange. I've used them about four times in the past month and have had no problems. No KYC is required. I've listed them but do they have any threads on the forums? I couldn't find any.
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I have not heard before about 'Changeangel' exchange before you mention here. I have searched on forum about their exchange if there is any official announcement thread, but unfortunately they don't have any.
As I said, I was too lazy to un-ignore the ANN section in order to search, but it's not surprising they don't have a thread. I think they're new and although I'm not endorsing them, I have used them for small trades with no problem. I definitely wouldn't risk big amounts of crypto on some no-name instant exchange, which is basically what Changeangel is at this point. I've listed them but do they have any threads on the forums? I couldn't find any.
Apparently not.
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Not sure. Mind explaining how does the exchange exactly works? It looks more of a search engine.
I can see that whenever you choose the pairs you want to trade, a list of exchanges is given to you. Do they buy the crypto from these exchanges using their accounts API and then re-sell it on their platform?
Yep, it's more like an exchange marketplace. The list of partner exchanges that appear show the different rates for comparison, so, in away the list gives the person who wants to exchange his coins a choice. When you want to exchange, they provide you with a wallet you send coins to, then they do the who swap process for you within around 5 minutes from the exchange of your choice. Edit: As i was searching about it in the forum, I found some member who made a summarized guide of how to swap. Maybe it can help you understand how the service works: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5115860.msg50083602#msg50083602
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Thanks for compiling the list, I'll try to run through them to find the actual fees present and report back here. Would be nicer for people when deciding to know what exactly 'fixed fee' means for the site, so I'll go grab those and post again with them.
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Edit: Ah, I see that fixed fee is more pointing to the FIXED RATE portion of things on these websites. Going to be hard to find the fees, as they're going to be ever changing depending on the spread. Welp.
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put a red dot on changelly make me laugh .... the only exchange with a reactive customer service, already several problems with them, it has always been resolved ..... you should review your logic of who scam who .. ..
ex/ ChangeAngel.io 1000dgb =0.00073 btc by cons on their site these 0.0002 btc oO ....
at least check the exchange rates before listing them .... i won't even finish looking at changelly suits me very well!
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put a red dot on changelly make me laugh .... the only exchange with a reactive customer service, already several problems with them, it has always been resolved ..... you should review your logic of who scam who .. ..
Instead of coming here to blindly shill the well known selective scammers, Please head over to the scam accusations board and type "Changelly" in the search button and you see for yourself. I wonder what your motive is here
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put a red dot on changelly make me laugh .... the only exchange with a reactive customer service, already several problems with them, it has always been resolved ..... you should review your logic of who scam who .. ..
Instead of coming here to blindly shill the well known selective scammers, Please head over to the scam accusations board and type "Changelly" in the search button and you see for yourself. I wonder what your motive is here I watched the subject on changelyly it dates from 2016, you want me to send you the email to exchange with them? I had transaction errors ect, I asked for the cancellation of my order it was returned without any worries or additional costs .... then my motivation, when I see changelly being treated as a scam, while other sites are more than suspect and worrying are freely displayed .... Anyway, I just see ... i see that i wonder who scams who? https://anonfile.com/P3kfD2Q5n0/qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq_pngif he wants to list the exchanges which does it loyally! these steps because changelly had a problem or problems that scam you .... I use their service for 4 years no worries .... if a transaction takes too long a small message to the support of the site and I cancel my transaction, can the same be said of the others? .... In short instead of reading sayings will try the service and we will talk about it again ....
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Added all the mentioned exchanges to the list. Thanks, everyone! OP does coinswitch.co also fall in this category of instant exchanges? If it does then here are the details:
Not sure. Mind explaining how does the exchange exactly works? It looks more of a search engine. I can see that whenever you choose the pairs you want to trade, a list of exchanges is given to you. Do they buy the crypto from these exchanges using their accounts API and then re-sell it on their platform? @OmegaStarScream here is the some details that would help you understand how CoinSwitch.co works. About CoinSwitch: CoinSwitch.co is the world’s largest cryptocurrency exchange aggregator. It provides an exchange service of over 300 cryptocurrencies and over 45,000 pairs from leading exchanges like Binance, HUOBI, Ethfinex, KuCoin, HitBTC, and IDEX. It provides an easy way for users to trade coins across multiple exchanges based on price and reliability. Step by Step Youtube Tutorial to make an order at Coinswitch :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9P1MilTbW0Their fee:CoinSwitch charges a fee of 0% to 0.49% depending on the exchange you select for your transaction. The conversion rate you see is inclusive of the fees. Note: This fees does not include any amount charged by the exchange itself and the network fee. These information is from their FAQ page: https://coinswitch.co/#faqHope this would help.
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Thanks for the list, I want to try Godex because that site doesn't require registration and no KYC why it has been not popular yet when shapeshift and chagelly has lot of issues recently? They can be trusted for any amount? I think it's a matter of time before Godex goes hard on the KYC stuff. Remember, Changelly was like that when it started operations until it had to force users (I was affected too) to a mandatory KYC. Let's enjoy the Godex moment while it lasts. This isn't taking anything away from the OP's compilation compilation.
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Okay firstly, thank you for this list, it feels good to have multiple alternatives to shapeshift. The KYC requirement for their exchange saddened me to quite an extent. I have heard quite a lot about flyp.me, so I might give it a go. Also, Coinswitch seems amazing, its apparently an instant exchange that takes offers from other exchanges, automatically trades for you, and sends you your desired currency. Gotta admit, its pretty dope.
Also, why keep exchanges like Changelly and Changehero on the list? They are shady at the least, and if people use this thread as a basis to go changelly and get their coins stuck or anything, then the whole point of this thread would be in vain.
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@OmegaStarScream i recommend adding a new heading (like "scam accusations") under changelly, changehero, and similar exchanges. most people probably won't scroll to the bottom to read the legend. Also, why keep exchanges like Changelly and Changehero on the list? They are shady at the least, and if people use this thread as a basis to go changelly and get their coins stuck or anything, then the whole point of this thread would be in vain.
i still see lots of people who swear by changelly (some of whom posted in this thread). it reminds me of the situation with BTC-E a few years ago: the vast majority of people had no issues with them, but a few people got selectively scammed. that was enough to paint their bitcointalk account red, but nevertheless, BTC-E was still widely trusted across the entire ecosystem. i used (and trusted) BTC-E until the day they were taken down. maybe there is some middle ground here?
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Just after doing some inital looking at some of the fees (the difference in exchange rate between some sites and a site like binance) This would mean that the fee (or convenience fee) for using a site like FixedFloat would be in the realm of .6-.5 percent. So about 1/2 a percent. This means that when they say fixed float, they're not messing around.
Not that bad to be honest, I think that's pretty solid if you want to try to be as anonymous as possible or if you want to use the LN (which is possible on Fixed Float)
Going to be trying some of the sites out and editing this soon.
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i still see lots of people who swear by changelly (some of whom posted in this thread). it reminds me of the situation with BTC-E a few years ago: the vast majority of people had no issues with them, but a few people got selectively scammed. that was enough to paint their bitcointalk account red, but nevertheless, BTC-E was still widely trusted across the entire ecosystem. i used (and trusted) BTC-E until the day they were taken down.
maybe there is some middle ground here?
I mean, the same logic could also be applied to yobit also then, because not everyone on yobit has been scammed either. But will you recommend people to use yobit? I don't think any sane person would willingly do so. I had genuinely thought changelly and shapeshift could change the exchange game in the market back then, and the change did happen, but in more of a negative way, so yeah I wouldn't recommend people to use changelly. Keeping changelly's name on the list is pretty much recommending people to use it, and I don't think the name should be on the list.
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Keeping changelly's name on the list is pretty much recommending people to use it, and I don't think the name should be on the list.
But would censoring help in the long run? Even if they didn't see the shady exchanges here, there's still a fair chance they would in other places especially for popular exchanges like Changelly. Worse it could be a positive content that can lead to them trying the exchange and encounter problems like stuck funds. There are two reasons why I won't try an exchange (talking about first try), it's either I have no idea it existed or I know it's too risky. I think it's better this way laying it all out. Since they're here viewing this thread might as well see what needs to be seen. Maybe op can put an addition to the emoji for warnings like what @figmentofmyass suggested making it impossible not to check their scam accusations? lastly, how about placing the legend on top before the first exchange?
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The only exchanges I would trust from that list are changelly and shapeshift, and you didn't add xchange from freebitcoins.
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The case was resolved and the money has been sent back to the owner. Here is the full response from changehero: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219589.msg53745329#msg53745329The only exchanges I would trust from that list are changelly and shapeshift
This can't be an objective opinion because i don't expect you had try all the exchanges in the list. Some of them are also trusted even more than Changelly and Shapeshift. You somehow missed to take a look at the accusations against them listed in a previous post : As long they are proven guilty, i can't trust them or recommend them to others even i didn't face any issue while using them. you didn't add xchange from freebitcoins.
This is a good one but not that much popular. Maybe more trusted than Changelly and Shapeshift. I wish people won't get confused with xchange.me which is another project (no reviews) or with xchange trading app which is a confirmed scam.
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Since we're starting to see more and more "Instant exchanges" lately, and Changelly/ShapeShift are no longer controlling that market. I decided to make a list of these exchanges, hopefully some of you might find it helpful.
Hello, We are sorry to see our service marked as not recommended to use in your list. Changelly has been operating since 2015, and many users from all over the world have trusted us to exchange their funds since. Regarding the links you posted, 2 of them are related to an issue that occurred on another service and has nothing to do with Changelly. In regards to the KYC procedure, the transaction in question was completed and the customer received a full refund. Actually, speaking of KYC checks: this procedure was implemented in order to comply with the regulators’ policies and combat money laundering. We process a huge number of transactions daily and KYC helps us prevent fraud and, consequently, protect innocent users. There are plenty of cases when we receive hacked crypto from different services, like Bancor, Coincheck, Bithumb and so forth. We also help legal authorities find hackers and return the stolen money. In fact, 99.9% of all transactions do not go through the KYC check. Changelly team would like to offer you an opportunity to make a transaction on our service and tell Bitcointalk users about your experience. Please DM us so we could discuss the details.
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Changelly is a non-custodial instant cryptocurrency exchange. We act as an intermediary between crypto exchanges and users, offering access to 150+ cryptocurrencies. The company mission is making exchange process effortless for everyone who wants to invest in cryptocurrency. Operating since 2015, the platform and its mobile app attract over a million visitors monthly who enjoy high limits, fast transactions, and 24/7 live support.
Changelly offers its API and a customizable payment widget to any crypto service that wishes to broaden its audience and implement new exchange options. The platform also provides its Affiliate program with a 50% revenue share mechanism.
Changelly partners with Exodus, Binance, BRD, Coinpayments, Binance, Coinomi, Huobi Wallet and other well-known players in the crypto industry
We offer you an intuitive interface, the best exchange rates and secure transactions. We aspire to establish mutual trust with our clients; thereof we don’t have any hidden or unreasonable fees. We always charge only 0.5% fee for crypto-to-crypto transactions and that’s it, full stop.
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Added all the mentioned exchanges to the list. Thanks, everyone! OP does coinswitch.co also fall in this category of instant exchanges? If it does then here are the details:
Not sure. Mind explaining how does the exchange exactly works? It looks more of a search engine. I can see that whenever you choose the pairs you want to trade, a list of exchanges is given to you. Do they buy the crypto from these exchanges using their accounts API and then re-sell it on their platform? @OmegaStarScream here is the some details that would help you understand how CoinSwitch.co works. About CoinSwitch: CoinSwitch.co is the world’s largest cryptocurrency exchange aggregator. It provides an exchange service of over 300 cryptocurrencies and over 45,000 pairs from leading exchanges like Binance, HUOBI, Ethfinex, KuCoin, HitBTC, and IDEX. It provides an easy way for users to trade coins across multiple exchanges based on price and reliability. Step by Step Youtube Tutorial to make an order at Coinswitch :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9P1MilTbW0Their fee:CoinSwitch charges a fee of 0% to 0.49% depending on the exchange you select for your transaction. The conversion rate you see is inclusive of the fees. Note: This fees does not include any amount charged by the exchange itself and the network fee. These information is from their FAQ page: https://coinswitch.co/#faqHope this would help. CoinSwitch - one of the best instant exchanges aggregator available out there - really should be on that list @OmegaStarScream Thanks for compiling that list! It's very useful.
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The list of coins available for exchange on Exolix is constantly growing. Today it has already 163 coins. If you have any questions about Exolix, we'll be happy to answer them
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This thread helped me twice.
Great thread merited the OP. Keep up the good work.
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Added (Thanks to LeGaulois):
- MorphToken - Bity - Fox.Exchange - InstaEx - Boltz
I have removed Changelly from the list and I'll be removing any other exchange that uses KYC as a way to scam people.
I found a couple of more exchanges (Totle.com and LiquidSwap.com). Has anyone tried them before?
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I found a couple of more exchanges (Totle.com and LiquidSwap.com). Has anyone tried them before?
I will try those with USDC. I am seeing that totle swap has many options but no BTC option. Strange! Are you sure those above-mentioned sites are trusted enough? Regards
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Looks like they do have KYC, but on a case-by-case basis. So in the KYC field it should say something like "No/depends". https://flyp.me/en/tos/If a Client, a Client Swap, a Client’s Transaction Request or a Transaction is flagged as suspicious through HolyTransaction’s internal controls, HolyTransaction will require additional proof of identification from the Client and has the right to decline any Transaction Request until additional and verifiable proof of identity is received and the compliance officer has approved the Client Transaction Request. By accepting these General Terms and Condition in accordance with Article 2, the Client acknowledges and understands that HolyTransaction maintains verification levels which may require Client’s participation. The Client accepts that he/she may not be able to achieve a desired level of verification, and HolyTransaction reserves the right to determine, at its sole discretion, the appropriate verification level for any Client, as well as the right to reduce Client’s access without prior notice. HolyTransaction may, from time to time, implement policies restricting verification levels by nationality, country of residence, or any other factor. This may affect Client’s ability to withdraw funds during the Use of the Platform and Client may indemnify HolyTransaction against any losses associated with an inability to deposit and/or withdraw funds based on your verification level.
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I am seeing that totle swap has many options but no BTC option. Strange!
Are you sure those above-mentioned sites are trusted enough?
Regards
You're referring to Totle and LS or the ones suggested by LeGaulois? If the former, then I'm not sure, that's why I didn't add them to the list yet, I'm looking for some reviews from people who used them. Looks like they do have KYC, but on a case-by-case basis. So in the KYC field it should say something like "No/depends". https://flyp.me/en/tos/-snip- Updated the OP, thanks!
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-snip- Other than that it seems to be the most reliable one, can you rearrange them according to reliability, member reviews or fees?
Member's reviews from platforms like TrustPilot? If so, then I think that would be a waste of time since these reviews can be bought. I'm not sure about ordering them by fees either, since these don't differ much.
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@OmegaStarScream I've re-read the topic and didn't find the sites mentionned in. I found a few other services if you can take a look at them and complete your list if they're good enough. I didn't search on the web for reviews or something similar (just collected information), so I can't comment on their legitimacy Hapy Sunday! Name: instaswap.ioAnn thread: KYC: No Fees type: fixed Supported coins: 62 Name: swapspace.coAnn thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221659.0KYC: No Fees type: fixed rate Supported coins: +300 Name: sideshift.aiAnn thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096550KYC: No Fees type: fixed or variable Supported coins: 28 Name: easybit.comAnn thread: KYC: No (creating an account is optional) Fees type: ixed rates Supported coins: +50
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PM sent, but I decided to post here anyways (if that's a problem... just let me know and I can delete this post!) Name: FreeBitcoins.comAnn thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111785KYC: No Fees type: Fixed Rate (0.2% XChange) and Fixed rate (1% Swap). [Free trading on XChange until at least 11/08/2020 as part of promotion] Supported coins: 18
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I've re-read the topic and didn't find the sites mentionned in. I found a few other services if you can take a look at them and complete your list if they're good enough. I didn't search on the web for reviews or something similar (just collected information), so I can't comment on their legitimacy -snip-
Thanks! and I apologize for the late response. I'll make sure to check and add the mentioned sites before the weekend.
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I've re-read the topic and didn't find the sites mentionned in. I found a few other services if you can take a look at them and complete your list if they're good enough. I didn't search on the web for reviews or something similar (just collected information), so I can't comment on their legitimacy -snip-
Thanks! and I apologize for the late response. I'll make sure to check and add the mentioned sites before the weekend. All good! Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns in regards to FreeBitcoins. I'm the boss over there at the moment and I handle all of the customer services!
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Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns in regards to FreeBitcoins. I'm the boss over there at the moment and I handle all of the customer services!
I just tried to exchange some DOGE to XMR and LTC and it appears that only the Litecoin transactions are going through. I got 2 invalid TXIDs from XMR. I'm not that familiar with Monero, so I'm not sure if the problem is coming from my side or the site's.
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Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns in regards to FreeBitcoins. I'm the boss over there at the moment and I handle all of the customer services!
I just tried to exchange some DOGE to XMR and LTC and it appears that only the Litecoin transactions are going through. I got 2 invalid TXIDs from XMR. I'm not that familiar with Monero, so I'm not sure if the problem is coming from my side or the site's. Checking into it now. Edit: Looks like something on our end. We are on it and will have it sorted just shortly. You're right, XMR is kinda strange, but I like it though too. Anyways, I'll update shortly.
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I happened to notice coinswitch.co, as it's one of only a handful of exchanges that lists curecoin (oddly enough, on the curecoin website in the exchanges section, they apparently link to coinswitch(dot)net, which my browser flags as dangerous. In any case, I think coinswitch.co should be listed in the OP, because I think it's a legit instant exchange (though I haven't tried it out yet). Not sure if OSS is updating this thread or not, though I did see he posted here today. BAC, you know I support FBC.com but I have yet to try out the exchange function. Right now there aren't any altcoins that I fancy, but I do keep an eye on the website daily.
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Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns in regards to FreeBitcoins. I'm the boss over there at the moment and I handle all of the customer services!
I just tried to exchange some DOGE to XMR and LTC and it appears that only the Litecoin transactions are going through. I got 2 invalid TXIDs from XMR. I'm not that familiar with Monero, so I'm not sure if the problem is coming from my side or the site's. Checking into it now. Edit: Looks like something on our end. We are on it and will have it sorted just shortly. You're right, XMR is kinda strange, but I like it though too. Anyways, I'll update shortly.Alrighty, you should be good to rock and roll! XMR wallet was being funky... I'm going to test that more this evening. BAC, you know I support FBC.com but I have yet to try out the exchange function. Right now there aren't any altcoins that I fancy, but I do keep an eye on the website daily. Perhaps this fall you will see a reason for using us! <3 Slowly but surely buddy.
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Alrighty, you should be good to rock and roll!
XMR wallet was being funky... I'm going to test that more this evening.
Looks good now. I just rechecked the TXIDs and they're valid. Thanks! PM'ed you about a new transaction I made.
The following exchanges have been added to the OP (after trying them): - EasyBit - SideShift - FreeBitcoins.com - CoinSwitch - SpaceSwap (similar to CoinSwitch) I didn't add InstaSwap because I couldn't test it. Most of the currencies there require a high amount as a minimum and I didn't have access to all my funds. If you've tested it before, let me know.
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I didn't add InstaSwap because I couldn't test it. Most of the currencies there require a high amount as a minimum and I didn't have access to all my funds. If you've tested it before, let me know.
I haven't ever used InstaSwap and I will never use it. It would better to avoid this exchange. According to their terms and conditions they may apply KYC to users at any time and ask for their documents. The worst part is that, if someone deny to pass KYC, they will do whatever they want with the sent fund. By accepting these Terms you agree to pass through the AML/KYC procedure, which may be applied to you or may be requested by Instaswap in some cases. During the AML/KYC procedure, Instaswap reserves the right to request additional information and documents, including but not limited to scan of your ID document valid in your country and additional information of the funds' origin. In limited cases (such as to verify your identity in order to pass the AML/KYC procedure or police investigation), we reserve the right to freeze your exchange transaction for any period of time necessary to complete the investigation and AML/KYC procedure. After a period of 30 days if you deny to pass through the AML/KYC procedure it is in our judgment what we will do with your funds. If you deny to pass through the AML/KYC procedure or don’t provide Instaswap with the requested documents and information, Instaswap has the right to refuse to execute your transactions (current and future).
InstaSwap's Terms & ConditionsThe following topic has been made by someone who was asked for KYC in InstaSwap. This site (instaswap.io) is not trusted please be carefuls
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If you haven't noticed it yet, all these types of sites work the same way more or less and can ask the users at any time their personal information. You can see it in the UAs or the T&Cs. Sometimes it is not explicitly stated or it is subtle to make the user believe that there's really none. Or sometimes they intentionally omit to say it. Few examples below The Company reserves the right to stop any negotiations or the provision of any services if the User shall not pass the KYC and due diligence procedures. from godex.io In particular, the delegated subject acquires at least the customer identification document and verifies its identity
from coinplaza.it HolyTransaction is legally compelled and permitted to comply with, including but without limitation the Luxembourg laws of 24 July 2015 on the US Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (“FATCA Law”) and 18 December 2015 on the OECD common reporting standard (“CRS Law”); HolyTransaction has reason to believe it is appropriate for it to cooperate with in investigations of fraud or other illegal activity or potential illegal activity, or from flyp.me To be able to avail the services, you should consent to pass through AML/KYC procedures that may be implemented on you according to our internal AML/KYC policies from changehero.io
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I've used this exchange before. IIRC, I didn't have any issues with it, except for some delays. I'll add it to the list, thanks! I wouldn't recommend using it for exchanging PP funds though. The fees are way too high.
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When compared to a swap from crypto to crypto, yes, but with Paypal, it's something different, it's a normal rate. If you search on LocalBitcoin for example you can easily find yourself with a rate twice as high.
Not bad I would say, I'd rather use such a website and pay a 10% rate than use LocalBitcoin, to pay 20% and have the risk to have a chargeback on top of that.
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When compared to a swap from crypto to crypto, yes, but with Paypal, it's something different, it's a normal rate. If you search on LocalBitcoin for example you can easily find yourself with a rate twice as high.
Not bad I would say, I'd rather use such a website and pay a 10% rate than use LocalBitcoin, to pay 20% and have the risk to have a chargeback on top of that.
Fair enough. The reason I didn't recommend it though is that I was comparing the rates to the ones I usually find here in the forum (1:1 or +5% tops) and not other platforms.
Has anyone tried Swapy.app before? I'd like to hear some of your thoughts about it. Also, do you guys think I should start adding platforms like UniSwap, Curve, etc. or should we stick with BTC exchanges?
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This topic brought me here again. I needed for an instant exchange for Forkcoins a few times, but wouldn't know which one to trust. Simpleswap.io for instance has a low minimum amount, but their topic has mixed reviews. It would be really great if you can add a (un)reliability rating to the list.
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When compared to a swap from crypto to crypto, yes, but with Paypal, it's something different, it's a normal rate. If you search on LocalBitcoin for example you can easily find yourself with a rate twice as high.
Not bad I would say, I'd rather use such a website and pay a 10% rate than use LocalBitcoin, to pay 20% and have the risk to have a chargeback on top of that.
Fair enough. The reason I didn't recommend it though is that I was comparing the rates to the ones I usually find here in the forum (1:1 or +5% tops) and not other platforms.
Has anyone tried Swapy.app before? I'd like to hear some of your thoughts about it. Also, do you guys think I should start adding platforms like UniSwap, Curve, etc. or should we stick with BTC exchanges? Looked at Swapy.app for something and then foud this thread. They have 6 coins 2 of which I never heard of. I don't think you are going to find many users. Also, I would just keep to BTC exchanges, if you start to add every UniSwap type place it's going to become too cluttered. If you really want to do that I would put it in a separate post, probably in the Altcoins section since with most (all?) of them there is no way to get BTC. It's all ETH. -Dave
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Not sure what happened to coinswitch but I don't think it deserves to be on the list of instant exchanges anymore. The whole layout is now different. More like regular exchanges where you purchase or Bitcoin for fiat and vice versa. Like how coinbase.com operates. I don't see the feature to instantly exchange crypto to crypto like it used to be.
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Not sure what happened to coinswitch but I don't think it deserves to be on the list of instant exchanges anymore. The whole layout is now different. More like regular exchanges where you purchase or Bitcoin for fiat and vice versa. Like how coinbase.com operates.
I don't see the feature to instantly exchange crypto to crypto like it used to be.
That's strange. It does appear that they're no longer offering that service but I can't find any official statements from the team. CoinSwitch Kuber (the fiat exchange) officially launched back in 2020[1] but at the time, the exchange aggregator was still running... I'll remove it from the list, thanks for letting me know. [1] https://medium.com/coinswitch/coinswitch-kuber-is-officially-live-e4dbfc7d1d33
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We all know since the begining the sites listed in the original post can ask for identity verification when they want, as they please if their system detects something suspicious. But the main point is that you can make a swap without an account and without verifying your ID. Again, unless they detect something shady. It's like joining Facebook: you don't have to provide personal documents but they can ask for it whenever they want if they detect something suspicious
The information isn't outdated, it's a matter to people to read the ToS before using any service
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Then he can change it like Flyp.me to No/depends instead of No. I don't think that you can assume that everyone is reading the ToS before using the services.
And if you all know that then why is this information not shared before listing all services? For me this is clearly false informations. Change it or make it explicit that they could ask for KYC.
That shouldn't be a hard task. Assuming that it's not done by purpose.
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Then he can change it like Flyp.me to No/depends instead of No
Probably, but that's because someone suggested adding it several months after the topic was created, and he only applied it to flyp.me. I don't think that you can assume that everyone is reading the ToS before using the services. But everyone should do this before using anything, it's a matter of responsibility and due diligence. We can't complain if we haven't read "a contract" before using it. It's like if you take out a loan at the bank, don't you read the terms? And if you all know that then why is this information not shared before listing all services? Because it's something usual that most of us are used to, it's something well-known (but apparently not enough). I was talking about it myself in the first page of this discussion. For me this is clearly false informations. Change it or make it explicit that they could ask for KYC. I wouldn't call it misinformation but rather a lack of information or an omission, idk. And I can't change anything, this is not my topic That shouldn't be a hard task. Assuming that it's not done by purpose. no, and surely not greetings!
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I just added a warning to the OP.
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It works well, even on Tor, but the exchange rate is quite bad. That's probably the reason for the bad exchange rate: the spread between Bid and Ask is very large for most coins.
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I've been using simpleswap since i came across it 2 years ago on hive blog post, it works fine. Had issue couple times, support resolved them promptly. Amounts were usually around $300, you may get scammed if you are very rich idk
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Removed from the list: - MorphToken (the site is live but you can't exchange). - InstaEx (the site is down as mentioned above). - Fox.exchange (they're no longer operational, but you can still contact the support if you need help with an existing order). I can see that there are some new (instant exchanges) added to KycNotMe: https://kycnot.me/Has anyone tried them? Some of them are only available in Tor.
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Not sure what happened to coinswitch but I don't think it deserves to be on the list of instant exchanges anymore. The whole layout is now different. More like regular exchanges where you purchase or Bitcoin for fiat and vice versa. Like how coinbase.com operates.
I don't see the feature to instantly exchange crypto to crypto like it used to be.
That's strange. It does appear that they're no longer offering that service but I can't find any official statements from the team. CoinSwitch Kuber (the fiat exchange) officially launched back in 2020[1] but at the time, the exchange aggregator was still running... I'll remove it from the list, thanks for letting me know. [1] https://medium.com/coinswitch/coinswitch-kuber-is-officially-live-e4dbfc7d1d33You forgot to remove coinswitch from the list mate Now they are even geo-blocking users. Is anyone else able to access it or does anyone know from which particular jurisdiction they are accepting clients?
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You forgot to remove coinswitch from the list mate Now they are even geo-blocking users. Is anyone else able to access it or does anyone know from which particular jurisdiction they are accepting clients? According from their terms of service, they only service people from India but you can probably access the website from other countries as I used a Singapore IP for this lol. 2. User Registration
2.1 Before You register on the Platform by creating an User’s account with the Platform (“User’s Platform Account”) or use the Platform or Services at any time and from time to time, You represent and warrant that you...
...(d) are an Indian citizen, as contemplated under the Citizenship Act, 1955, (e) are a person resident in India, as contemplated under the Foreign Exchange Management Act, 1999, and (f) are physically situated in India at all times during which you use the Platform or Services (together, the “Eligibility Criteria”). If You do not meet the Eligibility Criteria, You shall not register on or use the Platform or Services. In case anyone is wondering, KYC is ofc mandatory. Once you’ve registered via a 5 minute KYC process, you can start trading 100+ coins with no lock-in period. You can start with as little as ₹100.
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That makes sense now. I wasn't able to see any TOS as they would even allow me to see the homepage of their platform What I am curious about is if they still offer the instant exchange feature. The last time I check them, it seems they had changed the way they operate things to just buying and selling crypto for fiat. Is it still the case?
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That makes sense now. I wasn't able to see any TOS as they would even allow me to see the homepage of their platform What I am curious about is if they still offer the instant exchange feature. The last time I check them, it seems they had changed the way they operate things to just buying and selling crypto for fiat. Is it still the case? There is no trace of an instant exchange on the website. Everything is about their new product which is basically a diet coinbase - you have an app for easy buy and sell and a pro version on the web for those wanting a trading terminal. On the pro version and from the screenshots available on their website, every trading pair is with fiat. I haven't had the chance to look into their app as I probably have to KYC in order to access it and there seems to be no support articles about it on their website either but I expect it to be more or less the same. Further, If they do ever offer crypto swaps in there, it wouldn't fit into the instant exchanges category since you have to do the tedious steps of making an account, deposing into your wallet first, etc... instant exchanges removed as a selling point.
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Are you guys still able to use coinswitch? Even if I use a VPN or not, it's not allowing me to access the website. I've used them before and was having no issue at all until I can't access them anymore and I don't know if some changes have made.
I've checked their ANN thread and saw that their rep left a neg rep by logfiles. Probably there's a relation to why it's no longer accessible and if so, I guess it should be removed from the list.
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Are you guys still able to use coinswitch? Even if I use a VPN or not, it's not allowing me to access the website. I've used them before and was having no issue at all until I can't access them anymore and I don't know if some changes have made.
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You should be able to access the site with an Indian VPN, I just did. But as mentioned in the previous page, it doesn't look like they're operating as an instant exchange anymore. It's just fiat (INR) <> crypto app now and they recently launched "CoinSwitch Pro"[1] which acts as an aggregator for CEXes (Indian ones only) and is meant for arbitrage trading. [1] https://www.entrepreneur.com/en-in/news-and-trends/coinswitch-pro-launches-its-multi-exchange-trading/439758
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I've checked their ANN thread and saw that their rep left a neg rep by logfiles. Probably there's a relation to why it's no longer accessible and if so, I guess it should be removed from the list.
I left them a neg because they had lots of scam accusations around, including in their ANN thread, and they never bothered to come around to resolve them. Even their trust pilot is full of accusation to this date. Initially they had a main account that got banned for some reason, and then they decided to use a couple of Alt accounts as reps, but they would still not resolve issues amicably, or they would just ignore the complaints Maybe the ban made them abandon the forum.
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I remember now, I was able to see its transition from focusing on India's INR and saw that change of being a coinswitch PRO. By this means, it's no longer part of the list as it's no longer an instant exchange. Yes, I saw that you've removed it now on the list, thanks. I left them a neg because they had lots of scam accusations around, including in their ANN thread, and they never bothered to come around to resolve them. Even their trust pilot is full of accusation to this date.
Initially they had a main account that got banned for some reason, and then they decided to use a couple of Alt accounts as reps, but they would still not resolve issues amicably, or they would just ignore the complaints
Maybe the ban made them abandon the forum.
Probably and they wouldn't mind anymore as they've transitioned and focused into their local market and I guess the forum doesn't mean anything to them anymore. But despite that, they all started being popular in here though the main market of theirs is no longer gonna come from here.
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I'll probably continue to maintain this list for a bit longer, but I was thinking about creating a website for it.
I can make the API, if someone here is interested in helping with the frontend, preferably someone who's familiar with material design components (or any other good libraries) please let me know.
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I was thinking about creating a website for it. You mean like BestChange.com or KYCnot.me? I get why it's useful to share experiences here on Bitcointalk, but don't really see the point of using another website.
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I'll probably continue to maintain this list for a bit longer, but I was thinking about creating a website for it.
Is this going to be something like aggregator website to find the best rates for exchanges, or just list of all available exchanges with basic information about them and maybe short review with ref links?
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It's not going to be an aggregator. I was actually thinking of maybe a combination of both sites so basically: - Rates - Open source or not - Monero support - Supported networks/chains and coins (with the ability to filter) - LN support - link to Trustpilot reviews + the ability to review the exchange on the site as well etc. Your thoughts? Or do you still think it's a bit pointless?
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It's not going to be an aggregator. I was actually thinking of maybe a combination of both sites so basically: - Rates - Open source or not - Monero support - Supported networks/chains and coins (with the ability to filter) - LN support - link to Trustpilot reviews + the ability to review the exchange on the site as well etc. Your thoughts? Or do you still think it's a bit pointless? So, are you going to make a professional website? Or one just for fun? I mean, if you are gonna turn it into a business and generate profit like bestchange does, then it's 100% up to you but if you are going to make it for fun and won't be able to put a lot of effort, then I would say that that's a bit pointless because these two websites do their job very well and fairly easy-to-use. I think you are doing well by keeping this list the way it's listed here. I used your list when mempool was clogged because some instant exchanges that I have used, weren't accepting bitcoin deposits.
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the ability to review the exchange on the site as well etc.
Your thoughts? Or do you still think it's a bit pointless? If you can pull this off with honest reviews, I'm all for it! The one thing I don't like about BestChange is that they allow each exchange to censor their negative feedback. It's going to be tough though to decide which feedbacks are honest and which ones are fake.
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It's not going to be an aggregator. I was actually thinking of maybe a combination of both sites so basically:
Wait a sec....I could swear there is an aggregator out there for instant exchanges but for the life of me I can't remember what the url is or even if I was hallucinating it. But I was on some shitcoin's website and was browsing the exchange section, which had a bunch of instant exchanges of which I visited a few just for the hell of it. I could have sworn one of them compared all the rates of the most popular ones. I'm not sure a new site is needed for this or not, but I do think these kinds of exchanges might become more popular as everything moves toward KYC. Somehow the swap exchanges have avoided that, though I'm not sure how or if it'll continue, but they're definitely convenient if you just want to do an trade without the hassle of registering on one of the traditional exchanges.
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An overview page is always good. For older forum users this thread is certainly sufficient. For non-forum users an extra website could be interesting. Should the website also be found via the usual search engines? Then please put a link to this thread. That way more interested users will come to the forum. If you have enough time, just do it. In a year or so you can look at the statistics and evaluate then.
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Cool list, it was also one of the sources to the list I built. If someone is interested can check here: https://github.com/h0ek/crypto-swapPlease bear in mind my list contains referral links. Suggestions are very welcome.
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There is an update going on on those hours. The swaps are currently in pause. They are also going to enable lending after the next upgrade.
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Thank you, I'll add them.
As for Thorchain/ThorSwap, it looks like there has been a lot of interest[1] since they pushed their newest update (for anyone interested in reading more about it, see here[2]).
I can't seem to be able to get the rates for BTC though? I keep getting "No valid quote found". Any thoughts?
I do see the rates, but once I enter the amount of BTC I want to swap, the amount of the other coin I am going to receive does not show up. It just remains at 0.0. Also, I can't connect the wallet at all. It shows connected on my Test Trust wallet via wallet connect, but on the web app it's as though the wallet is yet to be connected. I guess it's still buggy and under upgrade as stated by HostFat
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They've upgrade the nodes, you can try it now https://app.thorswap.finance/
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The swaps are currently in pause. They are also going to enable lending after the next upgrade.
If they can pause and start swaps whenever they want then this is not really decentralized or non-custodial exchange, and I would not trust them with larger amount of coins. As for adding lending feature, this is another red flag for me, and it would not surprise me to see this turning into scam or ''exploit'' by unknown NK hackers in future. I guess it's still buggy
Or they are simply junk... but I will give it a try myself in next few days. @OmegaStarScream You can add eXch exchange in your list (links in my sig).
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The pause could be requested for a limited time from all the nodes, so it is a decentralized way to do it. If you have time, give it a deeper look in the documentation.
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1. Evonax.com is now down... I don't know for how long 2. CoinPlaza.it, It seems things have changed quite a lot with this instant exchange, especially in regard to KYC. They now have a 1 0 Euro monthly limit for No KYC accounts
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More precisely, Thorswap isn't a DEX, Thorchain is the DEX, Thorswap it just an interface to use it. Users can still use Thorchain with other interfaces, such as ShapeShift or Asgardex (and there are others)
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So Thorswap is back to work, but this time, with 12 banned countries: Belarus, Burma (Myanmar), Cote D'Ivoire (Ivory Coast), Cuba, Democratic Republic of Congo, Iran, Iraq, Liberia, North Korea, Sudan, Syria, Zimbabwe and any other country sanctioned by the U.S, UK or EEA[1][2] [1] https://docs.thorswap.finance/thorswap/resources/terms-of-service[2] https://cointelegraph.com/news/thorswap-back-online-ftx-hacker
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I'm guessing you just copied the URL from the OP instead of searching for it on Google? If so, that's probably why you couldn't visit it. It was only accessible if you explicitly added HTTPS before the URL, but it should work fine now (they might have read your post).
You are actually right. I just copied the link from OP and pasted it into the URL bar but yeah, it looks like it has been fixed. You can also add a hypertext link to Evonax.com and make it clickable like the others in the OP
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I was looking to trade btc to optimism usdc the other day, the prices I was given on simpleswap/stealthex/fixedfloat (these are my go tos) were significantly lower than amount I was exchanging. So, I looked for other platforms, and came across sideshift, the amount I received was about $1 less than amount I exchanged. They were quick to confirm my deposit, barely took a minute, however they waited until it got enough confirmations to send me op usdc. https://sideshift.ai
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I was looking to trade btc to optimism usdc the other day, the prices I was given on simpleswap/stealthex/fixedfloat (these are my go tos) were significantly lower than amount I was exchanging. So, I looked for other platforms, and came across sideshift, the amount I received was about $1 less than amount I exchanged. They were quick to confirm my deposit, barely took a minute, however they waited until it got enough confirmations to send me op usdc. https://sideshift.aiThanks for the feedback but SideShift is already listed on the OP. But if you're trying to find the best rates, I just came across this service on /r/CryptoCurrency: https://orangefren.com/It will also show you the KycNotMe score, as well as the exchange's KYC policy.
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I was looking to trade btc to optimism usdc the other day, the prices I was given on simpleswap/stealthex/fixedfloat (these are my go tos) were significantly lower than amount I was exchanging. So, I looked for other platforms, and came across sideshift, the amount I received was about $1 less than amount I exchanged. They were quick to confirm my deposit, barely took a minute, however they waited until it got enough confirmations to send me op usdc. https://sideshift.aiThanks for the feedback but SideShift is already listed on the OP. But if you're trying to find the best rates, I just came across this service on /r/CryptoCurrency: https://orangefren.com/It will also show you the KycNotMe score, as well as the exchange's KYC policy. lol, I gave quick glance in op and wrote the comment, didn't realize sideshift was already there, should have used find-in-page function. Regarding Orangefren, there seems to be limited number of pairs available.
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Just some additional information. Sideshift.ai seems to have blocked users from certain Jurisdictions from accessing their website. Instead, one gets redirected to Sifi.org, which they claim to be their partner. Some on chain swap service of sorts. I don't know how reliable they are since I have never used them.
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@OmegaStarScream, I suggest you add eXch.cx Instant exchange to first post site: https://exch.cx/ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577207.0Just some additional information. Sideshift.ai seems to have blocked users from certain Jurisdictions from accessing their website. Instead, one gets redirected to Sifi.org, which they claim to be their partner. Some on chain swap service of sorts. I don't know how reliable they are since I have never used them.
This is twisted considering that they don't ask for KYC, so they shouldn't have any regional restrictions. Have you tried with another browser or maybe even via VPN? btw. It works normally on my side.
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Just some additional information. Sideshift.ai seems to have blocked users from certain Jurisdictions from accessing their website. Instead, one gets redirected to Sifi.org, which they claim to be their partner. Some on chain swap service of sorts. I don't know how reliable they are since I have never used them.
Where was your IP? I just tried with the most likely country to be redirected -- USA and I was right, I got redirected lol. I tried a couple of other countries and they worked fine -- NL, SG, JP, AUS, UK. It's interesting that I can't seem to access sideshift's terms or service page. Dropping it on urlscan.io returns an error as well. I wonder if they're in the middle of changing some stuff.
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This is twisted considering that they don't ask for KYC, so they shouldn't have any regional restrictions. Perhaps they don't want to fall into trouble with the US or whatever law enforcement body is out there... or should we say they are "cowards"? Exch.cx have had a fair share of similar threatsHave you tried with another browser or maybe even via VPN? btw. It works normally on my side.
Yeah, it was because the IP address was pointing to the US
Where was your IP? I just tried with the most likely country to be redirected -- USA and I was right, I got redirected lol.
Yep, it's the US. It's interesting that I can't seem to access sideshift's terms or service page. Dropping it on urlscan.io returns an error as well. I wonder if they're in the middle of changing some stuff.
It's here - https://sideshift.ai/legalThe blocked countries are; 3.4. The Services are not intended for use by individuals who are citizens or nationals of or resident in United States of America, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Saint Kitts and Nevis or Syria.
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This is twisted considering that they don't ask for KYC, so they shouldn't have any regional restrictions. Perhaps they don't want to fall into trouble with the US or whatever law enforcement body is out there... or should we say they are "cowards"? Exch.cx have had a fair share of similar threatsObviously, Sideshift.ai are not completely NO-KYC, because that does not go together with Prohibited jurisdictions. For example, what NO-KYC should look like in practice. (when we already mention exch.cx) Prohibited jurisdictions: None (we are unable to detect customers country anyway because we have IP-logging disabled and none of our software pieces process such information) https://exch.cx/tos
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Strange. I was pretty certain that I added exch. I'll make sure to add it, thanks. As for SideShift, then this should also taken into consideration even one is not from the mentioned jurisdictions: https://help.sideshift.ai/en/articles/6230858-sideshift-ai-s-risk-management-policyI believe I talked about this before, but back then, I don't remember that "a refund" was only possible after completing the KYC process. They must've added that part recently.
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Very nice thread OP, it helped me to find some good exchanges but I want to share my recent experience with Changehero. I decided to make a quick exchange with changehero, entered my altcoin address, calculated the amount, then their btc address showed up where I had to transfer the money, then I sent the coins from my wallet and then I receive a message on their website that time has expired (while only some minutes have passed) and if I wanted to make an exchange, I had to try again. I contacted their support and they were checking the problem but I didn't hear reply for five minutes and used transaction cancel option on Electrum because transaction wasn't confirmed yet. Thanks god, I received money back.
I don't say that changehero is a scammer or like that but I would be careful with them.
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Very nice thread OP, it helped me to find some good exchanges but I want to share my recent experience with Changehero. I decided to make a quick exchange with changehero, entered my altcoin address, calculated the amount, then their btc address showed up where I had to transfer the money, then I sent the coins from my wallet and then I receive a message on their website that time has expired (while only some minutes have passed) and if I wanted to make an exchange, I had to try again. I contacted their support and they were checking the problem but I didn't hear reply for five minutes and used transaction cancel option on Electrum because transaction wasn't confirmed yet. Thanks god, I received money back.
I don't say that changehero is a scammer or like that but I would be careful with them.
I think they have had some few accusations here that got resolved with the pressure from the community, thus I would be very cautious using them. Maybe I would start off with instant exchanges that don't have a KYC clause on their TOS or look for the less controversial ones. Glad that you got to cancel the transaction in time.
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March 09, 2024, 07:19:38 AM |
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ّIn my opinion, Flashift's place in this list is really empty because with Flashshift https://flashift.app you can find the best rate among these exchanges. Please add Flashshift to the list.
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March 10, 2024, 07:03:13 PM |
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ّIn my opinion, Flashift's place in this list is really empty because with Flashshift https://flashift.app you can find the best rate among these exchanges. Please add Flashshift to the list. Things don't quite go that way. The idea of such lists is not to collect as many instant exchanges as possible but to be a list of verified services. This is not the case with you. For example, it is strange to me why you have referral links from other competitors on your page. Are you developing your business or is it an affiliate business?
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Potato Chips
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March 10, 2024, 07:12:28 PM |
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ّIn my opinion, Flashift's place in this list is really empty because with Flashshift flashift.app you can find the best rate among these exchanges. Please add Flashshift to the list.
Does your platform also provide an exchange service or they are just an aggregator meant to lay out information for users because there is a difference between the two in which the latter does not exactly fit the list. But if your aggregator is seriously good (e.g./together with orangefren, kycnot.me, etc. ) perhaps op might consider adding an honorable mention for aggregators or something however, the thread hasn't been updated for some time.
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Bitcoin_Arena
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March 11, 2024, 09:42:43 PM |
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For example, it is strange to me why you have referral links from other competitors on your page. Are you developing your business or is it an affiliate business?
Looks more like an affiliate business. It's like an aggregator show different instant exchange rates and then when you choose one to carry out an exchange from, the person behind the aggregator will earn a commission through the referral link used to carry out a trade. I don't know if they are reliable or trustworthy, though.
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Gladitorcomeback
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May 11, 2024, 05:06:02 AM |
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I want to to everyone that I have tried to swap 32.8$ Usdt for Eth through Side shift Swap but I have not received payment for 4 hours. I contacted through customer support but they are not replying which is not good. I will update here if I received any reply. Kindly use other swap platform till team resolve issue. Due to privacy matter I don't want to share transaction hash here. I habe checked Address provided by Side shift and Usdt has been sent successfully.
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