🔥 Vile Chipmixer Bounty Abuse 🔥 Probably the Biggest Con Job on Bitcointalk

[LoyceV]

What does theymos have to do with tihs? Theymos tries to keep this forum "as free as possible", so he's not going to get involved in who gets into a signature campaign.

DarkStar_ has to choose 4 out of 150 participants, many of those 150 users have very good post quality. There's a strong competition, and it's entirely up to DarkStar_ who he chooses.
So far, I can only say he's picked strong candidates, and from what I've seen, ChipMixer trusts his judgement on this.

[mindrust]

The whole Turkish local looks like that in my eyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q79jZG-UGxk

Do this by tagging if you have a problem with someone. I didn't like this analogy. I don't want to be involved in this discussion but I had to watch your post.

i condemn you about this !!

People in this forum can insult each other. They can fight but Uploading to a community is not nice...

You have not opened a single title for the Turkish community ohhh soryy one post

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1904686

this topic is opened to sell an account (ekşi)

My advice to you

hug everyone and love them !! people are two kinds dude...

good and bad


produce original content for your community... see you

The analogy fits perfectly.

Vispilio couldn't get what he wants, and starts throwing "allaah ackbars" randomly like the guy in the video.

If you don't think you are like him, then there is no need for you to be offended.

[Vispilio]

What does theymos have to do with tihs? Theymos tries to keep this forum "as free as possible", so he's not going to get involved in who gets into a signature campaign.

DarkStar_ has to choose 4 out of 150 participants, many of those 150 users have very good post quality. There's a strong competition, and it's entirely up to DarkStar_ who he chooses.
So far, I can only say he's picked strong candidates, and from what I've seen, ChipMixer trusts his judgement on this.

I strongly believe, and a lot of people agree with me via PM's and social media but are positively afraid to voice their opinion here, that theymos should get involved.

Can you imagine a libertarian forum where I'm getting tens of messages congratulating me for honesty and bravery, and yet very few people can reflect this with positive trust ratings and trust list inclusions because they are afraid of getting stigmatized ?..

Precisely why admin should get involved, 2-3 people should not be able to exert a fascistic influence that decides the fate of all DT1 and most Chipmixer selections, it's insane, you know it I know it, thousands of people know it, but they can't even come here to agree with me because they don't want their reputations instantly destroyed, have 3-4 threads opened against them by the NPC trolls and all the other bullshit we have been discussing for days...

It's time to smell the coffee  , wake up and make BTT fair & great again.

[mindrust]

The whole Turkish local looks like that in my eyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q79jZG-UGxk

Do this by tagging if you have a problem with someone. I didn't like this analogy. I don't want to be involved in this discussion but I had to watch your post.

i condemn you about this !!

People in this forum can insult each other. They can fight but Uploading to a community is not nice...

You have not opened a single title for the Turkish community ohhh soryy one post

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1904686

this topic is opened to sell an account (ekşi)

My advice to you

hug everyone and love them !! people are two kinds dude...

good and bad


produce original content for your community... see you

The analogy fits perfectly.

Vispilio couldn't get what he wants, and starts throwing "allaah ackbars" randomly like the guy in the video.

If you don't think you are like him, then there is no need for you to be offended.

please don't generalize

who are you having problems with ? vispilo ?

fight him don't mix us

If you generalize here, I have the right to speak !!! okey...

Since most of you support him, then the picture looks exactly like how I described.

*I didn't have any problems with him till he made it personal a few posts ago.

[muslol67]

What does theymos have to do with tihs? Theymos tries to keep this forum "as free as possible", so he's not going to get involved in who gets into a signature campaign.

DarkStar_ has to choose 4 out of 150 participants, many of those 150 users have very good post quality. There's a strong competition, and it's entirely up to DarkStar_ who he chooses.
So far, I can only say he's picked strong candidates, and from what I've seen, ChipMixer trusts his judgement on this.

I am writing here about how malicious people initiate propaganda against the Turkish community at all critical decision stages. I don't care about the Chipmixer campaign. I didn't even apply for that campaign. But Darkstar_ announced that he did not accept me in a campaign that I did not apply for.

I just wrote that;

Things are getting weird here. Up to 4 free places and x5 x6 appliers just now.
I think it won't be easy to decide. I wish luck to all joiners

and;

I went through a quick look of all/most of the applications. These people are not accepted:

Code:

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muslol67
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Applications are still open until tomorrow. I'm hoping to get final decisions tomorrow as well, but it could end up being Thursday.
[/quote]

Still, I personally don't blame Darkstar_ for anything anyway. His campaign and his call...

But why are we seeing nonsence accusation when starting from this campaign people acceptance?
As I said above, I am not interesting chipmixer campaign because I know I won't be accepted. But hostile behavior can not be accepted. That's why my objection. Mass attack, in particular, is very unethical.

[mindrust]

The whole Turkish local looks like that in my eyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q79jZG-UGxk

Do this by tagging if you have a problem with someone. I didn't like this analogy. I don't want to be involved in this discussion but I had to watch your post.

i condemn you about this !!

People in this forum can insult each other. They can fight but Uploading to a community is not nice...

You have not opened a single title for the Turkish community ohhh soryy one post

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1904686

this topic is opened to sell an account (ekşi)

My advice to you

hug everyone and love them !! people are two kinds dude...

good and bad


produce original content for your community... see you

The analogy fits perfectly.

Vispilio couldn't get what he wants, and starts throwing "allaah ackbars" randomly like the guy in the video.

If you don't think you are like him, then there is no need for you to be offended.

please don't generalize

who are you having problems with ? vispilo ?

fight him don't mix us

If you generalize here, I have the right to speak !!! okey...

Since most of you support him, then the picture looks exactly like what I described.

look, you're still generalizing

Do you think he is right about his claims?

[Blacknavy]

@forumalacali @mindrust

Sorry but, please stop that.

[Vispilio]

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Guys please keep your personal debates to yourself, it's completely off topic, I responded to mindrust briefly because of his endless hate against his own nation,
and I really believe it can help him a lot as a person,

no more issues regarding mindrust. Good luck to both of you.


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for the benefit of all future readers, the last meaningful msgs on this thread are here and here please continue from there

[suchmoon]

The sense of entitlement is just astonishing.

And the whole pseudo-patriotic bickering would be defeating your whole case if you had one.

[eaLiTy]

I strongly believe, and a lot of people agree with me via PM's and social media but are positively afraid to voice their opinion here, that theymos should get involved.

So your position is that theymos should have the final word in all the campaigns and he should dictate who is selected in which campaign and hope you understand that is what you are implying here .

Can you imagine a libertarian forum where I'm getting tens of messages congratulating me for honesty and bravery, and yet very few people can reflect this with positive trust ratings and trust list inclusions because they are afraid of getting stigmatized ?..

You cannot have a situation where everyone is happy and that is life, i have seen race card thrown around as if someone is targeting certain individuals, we are Netizen here and no one is representing any race or country and so is the reason you and me use an alias.

Precisely why admin should get involved, 2-3 people should not be able to exert a fascistic influence that decides the fate of all DT1 and most Chipmixer selections, it's insane, you know it I know it, thousands of people know it, but they can't even come here to agree with me because they don't want their reputations instantly destroyed, have 3-4 threads opened against them by the NPC trolls and all the other bullshit we have been discussing for days...

DT selection is another topic altogether and i am not going to comment on that but selection on a signature campaign is the discretion of the campaign manager and Chipmixer is just another signature campaign for theymos.

As for the drama we had many in the past and still many more to come as there will be conflict of interest as this is a diverse forum with different ideas and cultural background, if you think you will be targeted you have the option to decide whether to get involved or not.

PS: i am not here to trash your opinion, just made my point as the race card is thrown around many times.
  




  

[HBKMusiK]

Why do think that chipmixer campaign needs to be represented on Local Boards?

Chipmixer is a private company, the guy who is responsible as a campaign manager chooses whoever he likes.

I sent an application to the campaign as well but I know exactly why I am not accepted (because I am a WO addict) Thanks god I haven't lost my senses completely to throw the "It is because I'mma Turkish ha" card.

The whole Turkish local looks like that in my eyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q79jZG-UGxk

This is a message of racism. Nazis
Ban this man

Hey, I've prepared 2 gifs for your return but I've only seen that the thread is locked just after I finished them so I'll reply them here, I don't want that my work to be in vain:
How do you think it went when you came back :
https://i.imgur.com/Yq7ZjAl.gif
How it actually went:
https://i.imgur.com/gP4kJ7B.gif

[The Cryptovator]

First thing is, theymos has nothing to do with signature campaign.

Second thing is, if a company or chipmixer think that they don't need to advertise on Turkish board or any other specific boards then we have nothing to do. Its their choose they could assign their representatives accordingly. Always there is some requirements from the team and campaign manager work accordingly. It wouldn't be granted if a participant complained why he were not accepted. As stated on the campaign rules, Darkstar reserve all the right as below,

11. I reserve the right to remove anyone, for any reason from the campaign.
12. I reserve the right to change the rules for new pay rounds.

So whoever will apply they should read all the rules very well. Complain about not accepted isn't appropriate on this case. Should everyone blam to CM who had not accepted? If say I am quality poster bla bla bla then it will not change the fact. A manager know very well what kind of participants he need. It's just not for chipmixer, I believe every manager look for participants according to his requirements.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

He talks about an attack on almost everyone in the Turkish community when there is an improvement in such critical positions in the forum.

There's no coordinated attack in progress against the Turkish community--that's all in your head, sorry to say.  Nor is this some sort of case of racism/nationalism/whatever on the part of DarkStar_ or Chipmixer or anyone else.  The campaign is extremely competitive and there aren't that many slots.

Blue-blooded native English speakers get turned down from Chipmixer all the time.  It doesn't have anything to do with where you're from, because I can almost guarantee you DarkStar_ doesn't even know in most cases.  It all has to do with how good your post quality is and a secondary consideration is how trusted on the forum you are (as I understand it). 

This thread reeks of jealousy and playing the race card, even though there isn't exactly a specific race involved that I know of.

[marlboroza]

And penalize those who conspire in the shadows to disenfranchise entire groups of the forum for their own personal spiteful or money driven reasons...

You have to update topic with TRUE INFORMATION https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219538.msg53682169#msg53682169, don't just post lies!

deep DT voting power

I have no idea what Vispilio is talking about, I don't have any voting power. I asked to be blacklisted from DT long time ago and as I am aware I am still blacklisted. I literally asked forum members to exclude me. There are 2 of my threads mentioning this.

The reputations of the useful trolls used for hit jobs are quickly restored (sometimes even with "counter!" trust ratings in the silly games the Chipmixer mafia plays...)

I will always counter which I think is wrong -ve feedback, especially if it is wrong retaliatory feedback.


On side note, I wonder if behavior of certain individuals is somehow related to some tagging in the past, because something reminds me so much of Tokensuit's team member rants(please read posts inside these topic):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138319.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138273.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138312.0

And they actually asked theymos to ban account! Sound familiar?


This topic is black PR and defamation.

[suchmoon]

Would it be racist if I suggested to Vispilio that it's time to unbunch her panties and lock the thread?

Username: Kalemder
Post Count: 2841
BTC Address (must be SegWit): bc1qg4n0vd9sl475xlrjwh6m9efd20a2rks7fye5fa

Accepted, please PM me once you change your signature. Thanks.

[TryNinja]

Would it be racist if I suggested to Vispilio that it's time to unbunch her panties and lock the thread?

It must have been that Kalemder pretended to be turkish all this time but he is actually not. I’m sure he PM’ed DarkStar with his non-turkish KYC otherwise he wouldn’t have been accepted. What other explanation would there be?

[LoyceV]

I strongly believe, and a lot of people agree with me via PM's and social media but are positively afraid to voice their opinion here, that theymos should get involved.

And do what, exactly? Theymos allowed hundreds of bounty campaigns to spam the forum while paying participants in made-up tokens. If he didn't stop that, there's no way he's going to interfere in a Bitcoin paying campaign that doesn't break forum rules.

I am writing here about how malicious people initiate propaganda against the Turkish community at all critical decision stages.

From what I've seen, "the Turkish community" is something that only people inside that community see as something that separates them from the rest of the forum. I couldn't care less which country you live in, and I'm pretty sure most forum users think that way.

But Darkstar_ announced that he did not accept me in a campaign that I did not apply for.

I just wrote that;

Things are getting weird here. Up to 4 free places and x5 x6 appliers just now.
I think it won't be easy to decide. I wish luck to all joiners

If you didn't apply for the campaign, your post was off-topic. DarkStar_ assumed you applied, and rejected you. Since you didn't even want to apply, I don't really see what the problem is.

Still, I personally don't blame Darkstar_ for anything anyway. His campaign and his call...

Agreed!

There's no coordinated attack in progress against the Turkish community--that's all in your head, sorry to say.  Nor is this some sort of case of racism/nationalism/whatever on the part of DarkStar_ or Chipmixer or anyone else.  The campaign is extremely competitive and there aren't that many slots.

So you're saying you can't call it racism if you don't get selected for a job that 150 other people applied for too?

[AlexSimion]

Good luck.

I am not disliked by every other Turkish people. Why are you are making up stories?

Anyway keep it up, you are great at digging your own grave.

Likewise.

oh we are not digging graves they are flower beds , it's a personal hobby of mine to hunt ex-Turkish traitors like you across the globe (and have a nice friendly chat with them )...

Pray to whatever pagan God you picked up in foreign lands that you don't ever get to meet me in real life. Bye.

I actually tryed to emphatise with you in the beginning , and understand why it has come to this thread and maybe there was some truth behind it .
But seeing this last post you've just made ....  You're a complete waste of oxygen . You speak of discrimination , "racism" , but this post you made is the exact same thing , if not worse then what you're accusing Darkstar of .
You sir are an retard .  And I'd suggest to stop watching action movies , and focus on a hobby that actually has a connection to reality , and not your fanatic , turkish version of Liam Neeson wannabe.

[Vispilio]

~~~the reasonable armchair moralist rushes in with his spin...

ohhhh shame on me for making a minor tone inflection and showing a little bit of emotion, otherwise the pure sensitive angels of this forum would have obviously done the right thing and spoken up against the glaring injustices being committed daily here, what a missed opportunity for us  


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Would it be racist if I suggested to Vispilio that it's time to unbunch her panties and lock the thread?

Username: Kalemder
Post Count: 2841
BTC Address (must be SegWit): bc1qg4n0vd9sl475xlrjwh6m9efd20a2rks7fye5fa

Accepted, please PM me once you change your signature. Thanks.

oh after 3 days of stressful ruminations, and about 100 slanderous messages against me dominating the Reputation section, did the "famiglia" finally let Darkstar_ include 1 Turk ?.. Wow what a provably fair outcome  

Even going by the bare minimum statistics, Turkish boards should have already had at least 2 members representing Chipmixer, before Darkstar_ was begrudgingly convinced that it would be the "politically correct" strategic move to include one...

[DireWolfM14]

I'm disappointed that my application was rejected, but I can't seem find any factors on which to deflect any blame.

1. I'm of Arab ethnicity, but that doesn't mean anything.  There are plenty of Arabs in the campaign, ones who actually post in the Arabic local boards (hmmm?)
2. I'm on DT1, but other DT1 members applied and got rejected.
3. I have earned a bunch of merit.  Again, like others who've been rejected.
4. I like DarkStar_, and consider him a friend and mentor.  I would like to think he likes me as a human also, yet I still got rejected.
5. I have DarkStar_ included in my trust settings, and he's included me in his.

So why did I get rejected?  Could it have been a business decision that isn't influenced by my ethnicity, DT status, merit earned, how friendly I am, or my trust settings?  If DarkStar_ thought that my participation would benefit ChipMixer's advertising campaign, I'm sure I would have been selected, but obviously that wasn't the case.  That's the only factor I can imagine would lead to the decision, and I have no reason to suspect any other.


There are three things that really bug me about this thread:

1. A sense of entitlement.
2. Cries of racism.
3. Inability to accept business decisions for what they are.

@Vispilio, we've had our disagreements, but I don't have anything against you.  I'm sure you're a very helpful member to the Turkish local board, at least it appears that way to me.  But this kind of thinking isn't helping you or the other members of the Turkish board.  Stop trying to make nationalistic or ethnic war out of it.  By doing so you are only adding to the perception that you are incapable of being rational, and indeed it demonstrates poor judgment.