Post Reporting Being Used As A Form Of Censorship

[TECSHARE]

Regardless of the intent of this action, it serves as yet another example of the mobbing type behavior I am talking about in this post. I reported the post that I am responding to, as it is clearly off topic and designed as a form of distraction from the criticism, and retribution for being critical of the people pushing the accusations in the thread, as is a common response from these individuals when anyone is critical of them or their friends. In an effort to silence my criticism, they spam reports hoping something will stick.

Mysteriously this post I responded to and reported is "unhandled", but my reply calling it out for more of the same of what the OP is, needed to be removed for some reason, A.S.A.P. This is a common occurrence as any of these types of posts I report almost universally go unhandled. Pretty much the only posts I report that are handled consist of spam, or posts in the wrong section.

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

Love how the accusers are all of a sudden pretending to be the voices of reason so they can project their own behavior on to everyone calling them out. This is of course as they have their proxies attack via trust ratings and spamming false accusations in other threads. How long is everyone going to put up with this kind of behavior?

Again, this is the kind of thing that demonstrates to me that reports are selectively enforced.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=156113

And who that "well known member" will be?

@TECHARE all your other "opinions" are very well documented here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214377.msg53534115#msg53534115.

Thanks for demonstrating how the mob handles criticism... with more mobbing.

[suchmoon]

Pretty much the only posts I report that are handled consist of spam, or posts in the wrong section.

That's a clue right there. Don't waste time reporting posts just because you don't like them.

You derailed the second half of that thread and you got 1 post removed. Such tragedy. BTW marlboroza's reply to your post was also removed so you're even.

[TECSHARE]

Pretty much the only posts I report that are handled consist of spam, or posts in the wrong section.

That's a clue right there. Don't waste time reporting posts just because you don't like them.

You derailed the second half of that thread and you got 1 post removed. Such tragedy. BTW marlboroza's reply to your post was also removed so you're even.

I am not reporting posts because "I don't like them", I am reporting them for being off topic. If they were bad reports they would be marked as bad, not just left "unhandled" perpetually. Just because I am critical of the pushing of useless drama and mobbing behavior you partake in, serving zero purpose other than self serving vendettas, doesn't make my posts "derailing" just because you disagree with it. Marloroza's post that I replied to and reported still stands, my defense against it of course was removed.

[suchmoon]

Just because I am critical of the pushing of useless drama and mobbing behavior you partake in, serving zero purpose other than self serving vendettas, doesn't make my posts "derailing" just because you disagree with it.

Is the thread about "useless drama" or "mobbing behavior" or "self serving vendettas"? I mean you're entitled to your opinion, and perhaps it's appropriate to state it once or twice in a thread you're unhappy about, but when it last for pages then it's definitely a derailment.

Marloroza's post that I replied to and reported still stands, my defense against it of course was removed.

That's another clue. Don't perpetuate off-topic derailments by replying to them, report and move on. It seems like you want to have the last word and at the same time to get the opposing point of view removed.

[TECSHARE]

Just because I am critical of the pushing of useless drama and mobbing behavior you partake in, serving zero purpose other than self serving vendettas, doesn't make my posts "derailing" just because you disagree with it.

Is the thread about "useless drama" or "mobbing behavior" or "self serving vendettas"? I mean you're entitled to your opinion, and perhaps it's appropriate to state it once or twice in a thread you're unhappy about, but when it last for pages then it's definitely a derailment.

Marloroza's post that I replied to and reported still stands, my defense against it of course was removed.

That's another clue. Don't perpetuate off-topic derailments by replying to them, report and move on. It seems like you want to have the last word and at the same time to get the opposing point of view removed.

All of the above. Ah I see! That is the problem, because I said it more than once! Why would I need to do that? Oh right, because you attempted to dispute these claims and I was demonstrating why it was the case. Knowing the mods have been almost totally non-responsive to my reports of off topic posts, I don't have much alternative other than just letting people like you and marlboroza just flat out make shit up about me without a response. I would have even been totally satisfied if both posts were removed as at least that would be uniform enforcement of the rules. I would love to just ignore the posts and report them, but mysteriously all of these types of off topic posts I report go unhanded perpetually and almost universally. Funny how its wrong of me "to get the last word" but when the last word is one you agree with, well then, there is no problem there right?

[suchmoon]

All of the above. Ah I see! That is the problem, because I said it more than once! Why would I need to do that? Oh right, because you attempted to dispute these claims and I was demonstrating why it was the case.

You can still "demonstrate" it in a more appropriate thread without any risk of it being removed.

Funny how its wrong of me "to get the last word" but when the last word is one you agree with, well then, there is no problem there right?

No, regardless of which side of debate you happen to be on I think it's naive and hypocritical to expect that your opponent's post would get removed while your equally off topic reply would stay. Don't respond to off topic posts if you don't want your responses to be deemed off topic - that's not really rocket surgery, is it? I made that mistake with figment's and Timelord's posts but I'm not gonna start a butthurt thread if my posts get shitcanned. Off topic is off topic even if I agree with my own posts very much.

[TECSHARE]

All of the above. Ah I see! That is the problem, because I said it more than once! Why would I need to do that? Oh right, because you attempted to dispute these claims and I was demonstrating why it was the case.

You can still "demonstrate" it in a more appropriate thread without any risk of it being removed.

Funny how its wrong of me "to get the last word" but when the last word is one you agree with, well then, there is no problem there right?

No, regardless of which side of debate you happen to be on I think it's naive and hypocritical to expect that your opponent's post would get removed while your equally off topic reply would stay. Don't respond to off topic posts if you don't want your responses to be deemed off topic - that's not really rocket surgery, is it? I made that mistake with figment's and Timelord's posts but I'm not gonna start a butthurt thread if my posts get shitcanned. Off topic is off topic even if I agree with my own posts very much.

Convenient you declare my on topic criticism of the behavior of you and your friends should be held elsewhere away from where people would see it in the relevant topic isn't it? I don't expect that at all, as I have already stated, but you feel free to create straw man statements as much as you like and attribute them to me.

[suchmoon]

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Sorry, you're absolutely right 100%, all the time. Carry on.

[marlboroza]

Whole topic is going around circumstantial evidence, some users mentioned suchmoon's feedback "alt account of well known scammer" (or whatever it is there) and stuff, so, followed by the same philosophy, I made assumption that when you say "Sold account. Most likely an alt of a more well known member. Abusing trust system." you refer to "most likely alt of quickseller", which is directly related to topic then.

For example, if you can't directly connect A -> B then maybe you can A -> C and B -> C which will connect A -> B then.

I don't see why is that off topic! You reported my post because it beats every argument and/or criticism you have made in that thread!

On the other hand:



Your post is indeed off topic, "how someone handles something" is not subject of that topic...

[TECSHARE]

Whole topic is going around circumstantial evidence, some users mentioned suchmoon's feedback "alt account of well known scammer" (or whatever it is there) and stuff, so, followed by the same philosophy, I made assumption that when you say "Sold account. Most likely an alt of a more well known member. Abusing trust system." you refer to "most likely alt of quickseller", which is directly related to topic then.

For example, if you can't directly connect A -> B then maybe you can A -> C and B -> C which will connect A -> B then.

I don't see why is that off topic! You reported my post because it beats every argument and/or criticism you have made in that thread!

On the other hand:



Your post is indeed off topic, "how someone handles something" is not subject of that topic...

Actually it is very much the subject of the topic. The targeting of Quickseller is just more pointless mobbing, as I explained there. My criticism of this pointless mobbing, is yet again met with more pointless mobbing, as you demonstrated here and there with spammed reports, abusive trust ratings, and general asshattery as usual. Your declaration of it being "off topic" is just an effort to silence criticism of the behavior of you and your pals.

[marlboroza]

Your declaration of it being "off topic" is just an effort to silence criticism of the behavior of you and your pals.

So you reported post because you didn't like it?

Actually it is very much the subject of the topic.

And my post is "on topic", as it is explained above. Two of my posts are removed because of you troll, so how is that selectively then?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

The targeting of Quickseller is just more pointless mobbing, as I explained there.

Eh, I haven't read the most recent replies in that thread (that weren't off-topic), but from what I saw there wasn't conclusive evidence that Primenumber7 is QS's alt--and I'm sure if QS is offended by that so-called mobbing, he can stick up for himself.  I doubt it bothers him very much anyway.  And if he didn't have that reputation of being an escrow scammer I'm sure none of this would be a big deal at all.

TECSHARE, you did go off-topic but I see your point as you weren't the only one.  Who knows why your post was deleted, but just...let...it...go.  I realize you think you were defending your point there, but ultimately it isn't a huge deal and you made the point you wanted to get across to marlboroza I'm sure.

[TECSHARE]

The targeting of Quickseller is just more pointless mobbing, as I explained there.

Eh, I haven't read the most recent replies in that thread (that weren't off-topic), but from what I saw there wasn't conclusive evidence that Primenumber7 is QS's alt--and I'm sure if QS is offended by that so-called mobbing, he can stick up for himself.  I doubt it bothers him very much anyway.  And if he didn't have that reputation of being an escrow scammer I'm sure none of this would be a big deal at all.

TECSHARE, you did go off-topic but I see your point as you weren't the only one.  Who knows why your post was deleted, but just...let...it...go.  I realize you think you were defending your point there, but ultimately it isn't a huge deal and you made the point you wanted to get across to marlboroza I'm sure.

I frankly don't give a fuck how Quickseller feels about it. The point is this mobbing behavior is destructive to the community and shouldn't be tolerated, especially when absolutely no one has any reason why it serves any productive purpose, other than pursuing personal vendettas of course. We can avoid con artists with some simple logic and due diligence, we can't avoid totalitarian mobbing control freaks.

Regarding my point, marlborozas understanding has nothing to do with it. It is clear he doesn't give a fuck and is simply joining the mob. The point is to make everyone else aware. This isn't an isolated issue for me, this is a long time pattern. Just FYI, telling me to "let it go", what ever it is, is a pretty much guaranteed to ensure I won't, so just don't. No one gives a fuck about any of this stuff until it effects them directly, then suddenly it matters again. Its always a simple solution to dismiss issues that don't effect you, at no cost to yourself of course.

[marlboroza]

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That topic is about "is he" or "is he not", not "why you". You have to understand that. If you want to talk about not related things, we can talk about this, but not in that thread and not in this thread and not in threads where you are usually doing it, for example this one.

Why is it so hard to understand that moderator will (sometimes) remove off topic reply? You got your answer, so lock topic.

[TECSHARE]

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That topic is about "is he" or "is he not", not "why you". You have to understand that. If you want to talk about not related things, we can talk about this, but not in that thread and not in this thread and not in threads where you are usually doing it, for example this one.

Why is it so hard to understand that moderator will (sometimes) remove off topic reply? You got your answer, so lock topic.

You are mistaken, I don't have to do anything. I know you really really want to just command this entire narrative, but I already made it clear multiple times I don't have a problem with my off topic posts being removed, as long as the rule applies equally. In your case it wasn't. That was the whole point of the thread, not the tripe you continue to jibber about.

[suchmoon]

I already made it clear multiple times I don't have a problem with my off topic posts being removed

The number of whiny threads you create to complain about moderation would imply otherwise. Just create a reeeeee thread and set your own topic.

[TECSHARE]

I already made it clear multiple times I don't have a problem with my off topic posts being removed

The number of whiny threads you create to complain about moderation would imply otherwise. Just create a reeeeee thread and set your own topic.

And your continual mobbing behavior would imply you seek retribution against anyone who dares criticize the behavior of you or your friends. I did create my own thread. That is what this is.

[suchmoon]

And your continual mobbing behavior would imply you seek retribution against anyone who dares criticize the behavior of you or your friends. I did create my own thread. That is what this is.

I don't think that's really true, I mean for example you criticize me a lot but I don't think you've faced any retribution from me unless you think that disagreeing with you is retribution.

[TECSHARE]

And your continual mobbing behavior would imply you seek retribution against anyone who dares criticize the behavior of you or your friends. I did create my own thread. That is what this is.

I don't think that's really true, I mean for example you criticize me a lot but I don't think you've faced any retribution from me unless you think that disagreeing with you is retribution.

The particular form of retribution you partake in tends to take the form of mischaracterization, lies, manufacturing of narratives, and joining in mobs. I don't give a fuck who disagrees with me, I do however take exception to your use of intellectual dishonesty to serve your own narratives. This is not simply a matter of disagreement, but one of a deceptive nature.

[suchmoon]

The particular form of retribution you partake in tends to take the form of mischaracterization, lies, manufacturing of narratives, and joining in mobs. I don't give a fuck who disagrees with me, I do however take exception to your use of intellectual dishonesty to serve your own narratives. This is not simply a matter of disagreement, but one of a deceptive nature.

Nah, still sounds like all the other conspiracy theories you make up about anyone who dares to disagree with you.