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Agreed. The season will start on Thursday. I also agree on the entry fee of 0.0005 btc. Also, put my votes on yes on PPFD, PPSY, no on eliminate kickers and draft time for me is very flexible but if we can do this on this weekend, this would be preferable.

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I updated the vote table with all the latest data.  I pushed out the draft time on the Sleeper app to Wednesday, Sept. 9, 15:30 Eastern Daylight Time to give us more time, but I can always pull it back in.  As for funds, I'm not worried about any of you guys, so we can deal with that later.  I'm going to be busy over the next several days so if one of you guys wants to take over escrow duties, feel free.  Otherwise I'll deal with it next week.

We have 10 confirmed participants who've posted here, but I only see 4 of us have registered on the app.  I set the app for 12, but if needed I can change it to 10 of South Park and seek3r don't respond here.

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Thanks for keeping track of everything & keeping us organized. Draft time works for me, as does the buy-in. Hopefully the price of BTC will follow its usual trend and the pot will be worth substantial $$$ come collection time.

We have 10 confirmed participants who've posted here, but I only see 4 of us have registered on the app.  I set the app for 12, but if needed I can change it to 10 of South Park and seek3r don't respond here.

I suppose we need both of them, can't have an 11-man league. So I hope they both decide to indulge us.

I've been trying to use Grok to analyze team performance, just to kind of get quick, digestible summaries, but every once in a while I have to veer off course, just to see what happens.


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August 28, 2025, 10:47:24 PM
Last edit: August 30, 2025, 12:45:53 AM by Hueristic
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Okay Gents,

Here's what I have for votes so far.  It's getting critical for the selecting draft date, but so far it's looking like Sleeper, keeping PPFD, adding Point per Sack Yard, and keeping kickers are in the lead.  If you feel strongly about something, please submit your vote.

I'll be out in the woods (hunting wabbits) until Monday afternoon, but in a pinch I can drive to a spot to get reception and join the draft.  Regardless, I vote for Tuesday evening Pacific Time for the draft.


Member || Commitment || Platform || PPFD || PPSY || Eliminate Kickers || Entry Fee || Draft Time
Hueristic || In || Yahoo || Yes || Yes ||Yes || 1.0mBTC ||Whatever is good for everyone
suchmoon || In || hates Sleeper || Yes || Yes || No || 500,000BTC ||
wheelz1200 || In || No Preference || || || || ||
nutildah || In || Yahoo! || Yes || Yes || No || ||
yahoo62278 || In || No Preference || || || || 0.5mBTC || Yesterday
bbc.reporter || In || Sleeper || Yes || Yes || No || 0.5mBTC || This weekend
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ChiBitCTy || In || Sleeper || No || || Yes || ||
morvillz7z || In || Not Temu || Yes || No || No || ||
DireWolfM14 || In || Sleeper || Yes || Yes || No || 0.5mBTC || 2025.09.03 15:30EDT
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OK, guys we really need a draft time in stone soon so if anyone has a problem with accommodating DW's time then speak up otherwise I'm fine with it.

I think we need to make a deadline for checking in and I see no reason why it should not be Friday night 8/28 @ 9:pm EST.

IIRC in past years we have drafted on the Saturday before kickoff and that would normally be my vote but I have no problem holding off to accommodate anyone that can't make that time-frame.

So someone post the link to that sleeper league DW setup please, I'll check it out and make sure they have the stats correct this time.

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Draft anytime.  Rules, dont care im in for whatever as long as its nothing completely crazy.  Even then im likely fine.  Fee id be in for .001 but again that's my vote im 100% in for whatever anyone else is higher or lower.  Let's make it happen fellas!

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So someone post the link to that sleeper league DW setup please, I'll check it out and make sure they have the stats correct this time.

EDIT: OK this does not give me the warm fuzzies I just went and tried to check sleeper out and recover my old account and after 10 frigging captchas it gave me this fucking ERROR. "Error: There’s an issue with your network. Please try again in 30 minutes."

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY MOTHER FUCKING NETWORK.

EVERYONE make sure you can get an account on that site, we need this done before hand as it looks like the majority is going to be to use it.

I just PM'd the link the group.  Click the link from a PC browser, and try logging in that way.  Sometimes phone app are finicky on rooted phones...  Yeah, I know how you are.

I agree that we should set a deadline for responding in the affirmative here, Friday night sounds good, so we can get our voting results in early.  @morvillz7z, can we count on you to set draft order again?

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Okay Gents,

Here's what I have for votes so far.  It's getting critical for the selecting draft date, but so far it's looking like Sleeper, keeping PPFD, adding Point per Sack Yard, and keeping kickers are in the lead.  If you feel strongly about something, please submit your vote.

I'll be out in the woods (hunting wabbits) until Monday afternoon, but in a pinch I can drive to a spot to get reception and join the draft.  Regardless, I vote for Tuesday evening Pacific Time for the draft.


Member || Commitment || Platform || PPFD || PPSY || Eliminate Kickers || Entry Fee || Draft Time
Hueristic || In || Yahoo || Yes || Yes ||Yes || 1.0mBTC ||Whatever is good for everyone
suchmoon || In || hates Sleeper || Yes || Yes || No || 500,000BTC ||
wheelz1200 || In || No Preference || || || || ||
nutildah || In || Yahoo! || Yes || Yes || No || ||
yahoo62278 || In || No Preference || || || || 0.5mBTC || Yesterday
bbc.reporter || In || Sleeper || Yes || Yes || No || 0.5mBTC || This weekend
South Park || TBD || || || || || ||
Hhampuz || In || Sleeper || || || || ||
ChiBitCTy || In || Sleeper || No || || Yes || ||
morvillz7z || In || Not Temu || Yes || No || No || ||
DireWolfM14 || In || Sleeper || Yes || Yes || No || 0.5mBTC || 2025.09.03 15:30EDT
seek3r || TBD || || || || || ||
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OK, guys we really need a draft time in stone soon so if anyone has a problem with accommodating DW's time then speak up otherwise I'm fine with it.

I think we need to make a deadline for checking in and I see no reason why it should not be Friday night 8/28 @ 9:pm EST.

IIRC in past years we have drafted on the Saturday before kickoff and that would normally be my vote but I have no problem holding off to accommodate anyone that can't make that time-frame.

So someone post the link to that sleeper league DW setup please, I'll check it out and make sure they have the stats correct this time.

EDIT: OK this does not give me the warm fuzzies I just went and tried to check sleeper out and recover my old account and after 10 frigging captchas it gave me this fucking ERROR. "Error: There’s an issue with your network. Please try again in 30 minutes."

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY MOTHER FUCKING NETWORK.

EVERYONE make sure you can get an account on that site, we need this done before hand as it looks like the majority is going to be to use it.
I clicked the link sent to me on here from my phone and got in the group with 0 issues. Hope you get it figured out.

So someone post the link to that sleeper league DW setup please, I'll check it out and make sure they have the stats correct this time.

EDIT: OK this does not give me the warm fuzzies I just went and tried to check sleeper out and recover my old account and after 10 frigging captchas it gave me this fucking ERROR. "Error: There’s an issue with your network. Please try again in 30 minutes."

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY MOTHER FUCKING NETWORK.

EVERYONE make sure you can get an account on that site, we need this done before hand as it looks like the majority is going to be to use it.

I just PM'd the link the group.  Click the link from a PC browser, and try logging in that way.  Sometimes phone app are finicky on rooted phones...  Yeah, I know how you are.

I agree that we should set a deadline for responding in the affirmative here, Friday night sounds good, so we can get our voting results in early.  @morvillz7z, can we count on you to set draft order again?
I sent a message in the discord as well so hopefully Seek logs on and sees it tonight.

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EDIT: OK this does not give me the warm fuzzies I just went and tried to check sleeper out and recover my old account and after 10 frigging captchas it gave me this fucking ERROR. "Error: There’s an issue with your network. Please try again in 30 minutes."

I got "Failed Captcha Verification"... EXCEPT THERE IS NO FUCKING CAPTCHA Grin
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I went into my backups and found my password from 2 years ago and that's how I got in.

I ONLY do FF DRAFTs in a browser and Will never use an phone app for it.

I tried using an app last year on wifi at the casino and the app crapped out three rounds in and I got hosed (it was the yahoo app).

The issue I am having now is I cannot find PPFD in the Stats and also I cannot reorder players to set up a draft list.

I tried two mock drafts and could not reorder players in either.

Not being able to setup a draft list IS A DEAL BREAKER for me.

If this does not get resolved then I will not be drafting on sleeper no matter what we vote, I will drop out of the league first.

Don't want to be a dick but I am just letting you guys know, I am not going to change to a site if it does not have the capabilities of the current site we are using, that's as retarded as it gets in my opinion.

If someone wants to work with me on how to setup a draft list then I will continue to try it but these are the things I will not do.

1) use a fucking phone
2) change my fucking browsers from librewolf, waterfox or firefox.

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 Cheesy, play on yahoo guys and I'll see you next year

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Cheesy, play on yahoo guys and I'll see you next year

I have spent the last 3 hours trying to use this site.

I have figured out 90% but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to set a pre draft lineup and that is literally the most basic thing in a draft!

Maybe this site is easy to set your lineup on a phone but it is shit for commish tools and browser usage.

Oh and apparently I cannot reset the draft as the reset button disappears after a draft (why the fuck they have a reset button that disappears the only time you would need it is beyond me).

Is no-one else having issues doing mock drafts, or are you all using phones?

BTW I have the fucking captcha error on my phone now after installing the app.
I seem to remember having that issue last time I installed it but I figured out a work around and I cant remember what the fuck it was.Doh



It looks like the draft already happened.  I have one player on my team, and now it won't let me change the draft settings.  I think we might have to set up a new league, but I don't have time right now.  I'm heading out this evening and won't be back until monday.  I can mess around with it on Monday afternoon.  Let's plan on drafting on 20:30 Eastern Time (17:30 Pacific) Wednesday night.  I'll configure the league once I get back on Monday.

To be able to manually set the draft order you have use the "click to reassign" linky:


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EDIT: OK this does not give me the warm fuzzies I just went and tried to check sleeper out and recover my old account and after 10 frigging captchas it gave me this fucking ERROR. "Error: There’s an issue with your network. Please try again in 30 minutes."

I got "Failed Captcha Verification"... EXCEPT THERE IS NO FUCKING CAPTCHA Grin

My bad I misread your post, You got the No captcha as well with no captcha even popping up.

Thats what I get on the phone.

the only way I got around it on the browser was because I found my old account in a backup.

Were you able to get on in a browser?

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OK, Guys I have thought of a solution !!!!

We draft on Yahoo as we have done every year.


And then We play the season On sleeper!


That way we have the best of both worlds, you guys can use the app to set your lineups and we can have a draft where we can setup pre draft lists and see the damn stats for the players!

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OK, Guys I have thought of a solution !!!!

We draft on Yahoo as we have done every year.


And then We play the season On sleeper!


That way we have the best of both worlds, you guys can use the app to set your lineups and we can have a draft where we can setup pre draft lists and see the damn stats for the players!
Why is this becoming complicated? Should be as simple as setting it up and setting a draft shouldn't it? What does a pre draft list have to do with anything if you are there for the draft? Make a spreadsheet if you need to and mark off who's taken or am I missing something?

I have no plans on winning I just wanna play. I haven't finished better than 10th yet. Whether it's on yahoo or sleeper IDC and I really don't see the difference. Both can be accessed from the phone, both can be accessed from a computer right?

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OK, Guys I have thought of a solution !!!!

We draft on Yahoo as we have done every year.


And then We play the season On sleeper!


That way we have the best of both worlds, you guys can use the app to set your lineups and we can have a draft where we can setup pre draft lists and see the damn stats for the players!
Why is this becoming complicated? Should be as simple as setting it up and setting a draft shouldn't it? What does a pre draft list have to do with anything if you are there for the draft? Make a spreadsheet if you need to and mark off who's taken or am I missing something?

I have no plans on winning I just wanna play. I haven't finished better than 10th yet. Whether it's on yahoo or sleeper IDC and I really don't see the difference. Both can be accessed from the phone, both can be accessed from a computer right?

I find it hard to believe I'm the only one that uses a pre draft list.

You mean you guys are kicking my ass every year winging it? WTF!

Can't use a paper list, tried it in the past and it caused me to miss picks.

shit my favorite thing of all of last season was grabbing Mason right before DW!

I would have never been able to do that without a list.

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Were you able to get on in a browser?

I tried a browser on a computer and a browser on a phone. There is no captcha shown but it keeps complaining that I failed captcha.

I'm able to log in via the phone app but I don't know how to join the league there, or if it's even possible. Regardless, I can't really play FF on a phone, so I think I'm gonna have to pass this year.
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Seriously, guys, just play on yahoo. I am the only one who wanted to play on sleeper or not play at all and I won't expect everyone else to move over if there are massive issues. Maybe next year!

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OK, Guys I have thought of a solution !!!!

We draft on Yahoo as we have done every year.


And then We play the season On sleeper!


That way we have the best of both worlds, you guys can use the app to set your lineups and we can have a draft where we can setup pre draft lists and see the damn stats for the players!
Why is this becoming complicated? Should be as simple as setting it up and setting a draft shouldn't it? What does a pre draft list have to do with anything if you are there for the draft? Make a spreadsheet if you need to and mark off who's taken or am I missing something?

I have no plans on winning I just wanna play. I haven't finished better than 10th yet. Whether it's on yahoo or sleeper IDC and I really don't see the difference. Both can be accessed from the phone, both can be accessed from a computer right?

I find it hard to believe I'm the only one that uses a pre draft list.

You mean you guys are kicking my ass every year winging it? WTF!

Can't use a paper list, tried it in the past and it caused me to miss picks.

shit my favorite thing of all of last season was grabbing Mason right before DW!

I would have never been able to do that without a list.

Research and creating my list is my favorite part of the season hehehe. However, this is not where the winners win. They win because of the correct adjustments made when their are injuries and they immediately to the waiver wire to get the players who might replace the injured players.

In any case, you can queue players in the order of your ranking for the draft on Sleeper. But on mock drafts, you will do the queue again for each mock draft.

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Research and creating my list is my favorite part of the season hehehe. However, this is not where the winners win. They win because of the correct adjustments made when their are injuries and they immediately to the waiver wire to get the players who might replace the injured players.

I haven't won in a long time (if ever) on this forum in a fantasy league, but I tend to believe this is the case, as well.. Remember last year the 2 players with the most trades finished 1st and last. The key is to make a lot of good trades, which uh, I'm not that good at.

A few years back one of my biggest rookie surprises was De'Von Achane, who put up like 50 points in his 2nd game, only to get injured for much of the season. He was probably the best rookie I ever picked up from the bench.

In any case, you can queue players in the order of your ranking for the draft on Sleeper. But on mock drafts, you will do the queue again for each mock draft.

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In any case, you can queue players in the order of your ranking for the draft on Sleeper. But on mock drafts, you will do the queue again for each mock draft.

OK, I spent some more time and found the only way is to do it is to as you noted making a que list per draft manually.

I can do that, but is suchmoon cannot even sign in with a browser than we cannot draft sleeper.

If he can get on it then I will just setup a que order for it.

The thing is If something happens and you don't have a pre draft list setup then the auto draft will fuck you and pick the dumb ass default list which will fill your team with injured and IR players.


Seriously, guys, just play on yahoo. I am the only one who wanted to play on sleeper or not play at all and I won't expect everyone else to move over if there are massive issues. Maybe next year!

I am wondering what your problem with yahoo is and we are bending over backwards here for you and there is no reason I can see why you cannot draft on yahoo.

I am actually trying to make everyone happy and that is why I recommended the solution of drafting on Yahoo and then playing the league on sleeper as it makes more work for me but then we will have ten players which is not ideal but a hell of a lot better than nine.

I think the reason me and suchmoon cannot get the captchas is because my guess is we have degoogled phones.

I tried an older phone and installed google garbage back on it but apparently the os on it is too old for the app.


Were you able to get on in a browser?

I tried a browser on a computer and a browser on a phone. There is no captcha shown but it keeps complaining that I failed captcha.

I'm able to log in via the phone app but I don't know how to join the league there, or if it's even possible. Regardless, I can't really play FF on a phone, so I think I'm gonna have to pass this year.

The sleeper website is usable, not as good as yahoo imo but it is fine for setting lineups during the season.

I think the captcha problem on the website is a one time more restrictive thing when registering and I think I made a VM and installed chrome and that is how I got around it a few years ago.

Of course I promptly deleted the vm after I checked the site out and ran into the problems back then but luckily the account info was in a old backup so thats how I got in on librewolf.

So If you make an account on some open bend over for the system chrome browser you can probably get the account made and then use it one a good locked down system.

I also found I can block all the shit spy domains once I'm signed in like facebook,ticktok and spotify with noscript.

I do not know if I will be available for todays time, actually I doubt it but wendsday should be fine if that works for everyone else.



Research and creating my list is my favorite part of the season hehehe. However, this is not where the winners win. They win because of the correct adjustments made when their are injuries and they immediately to the waiver wire to get the players who might replace the injured players.

Actually The draft is where you win the league, the seasons adjustments is where you can lose it. ;P


A few years back one of my biggest rookie surprises was De'Von Achane, who put up like 50 points in his 2nd game, only to get injured for much of the season. He was probably the best rookie I ever picked up from the bench.


Yeah I remember that, Achane came out of the gate like a beast then got hurt, I was rocking Mosert at the time and was sweating him losing his job!




Where are we on the vote? Is there anyone who hasn't spoken up yet? I will respect the majority decision.

Most people didnt vote or said they didnt care which is fine and I think everyone just wants the most players and is not married to a specific platform.

I think this is the latest:



Member || Commitment || Platform || PPFD || PPSY || Eliminate Kickers || Entry Fee || Draft Time
Hueristic || In || Yahoo || Yes || Yes ||Yes || 1.0mBTC ||Whatever is good for everyone
suchmoon || In || hates Sleeper || Yes || Yes || No || 500,000BTC ||
wheelz1200 || In || No Preference || || || || ||
nutildah || In || Yahoo! || Yes || Yes || No || ||
yahoo62278 || In || No Preference || || || || 0.5mBTC || Yesterday
bbc.reporter || In || Sleeper || Yes || Yes || No || 0.5mBTC || This weekend
South Park || TBD || || || || || ||
Hhampuz || In || Sleeper || || || || ||
ChiBitCTy || In || Sleeper || No || || Yes || ||
morvillz7z || In || Not Temu || Yes || No || No || ||
DireWolfM14 || In || Sleeper || Yes || Yes || No || 0.5mBTC || 2025.09.03 15:30EDT
seek3r || TBD || || || || || ||
|| || Result || Result || Result || Result || Result || Result
|| || || || || || ||



We still have a few days to iron this all out so its not that pressing and if we can't get a consensus then we can always fall back to yahoo nut like ?I said, I will Go to the effort to make everyone happy and port the league over to sleeper after a yahoo draft if need be and that should make everyone happy. The only problem then is Suchmoon needs an account so he can use the browser and maybe one of you sleeper guys should offer to work with him to make that happen.


Oh and I already created a backup sleeper league with all the correct settings on sleeper before I started pulling levers as 40 years in IT has taught me a thing or 2, Wink

I'm not even remotely surprised it did not let us reset the league to a predraft state even though there is a reset button there.

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