Little Mouse and RapTarX - What is this connection?

[ChuckBuck]

Note: This topic stems from the evidence provided by this user, his allegations have been made but not convincing enough (because he has negative trust) and have not received the attention from the community, so I bring everything here more fully  

User: Little Mouse

User: RapTarX

Describe:Little Mouse quoted (has been deleted) RapTarX's application in Hhampuz's Roobet campaign, then applied it to himself. In this case, the user got confused between their two accounts, so, instead of quote using RapTarX account, he quoted using his Little Mouse account. And shortly after, he deleted this post, but one user found it archived on Loyce.club's database. In addition, at the time of application to Roobet's campaign (4 Dec 2020), Little Mouse is a member of the Bitvest campaign run by Hhampuz (archived). It is absurd that a user is in Bitvest campaign, quote an application of another user to apply to Roobet campaign and saying that he is a member of Roobet campaign  

Conclude: The evidence is too clear to see that these two accounts are connected, so I expect comments from everyone, especially the explanations from these 2 accounts.

I was pretty worried that revenge actions would happen to me in the future  

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[yahoo62278]

I'm tagging you for asking questions. You should know better lmao. I like users just coming out and asking what they wanna know with main accounts

[AB de Royse777]

Where is the crime here? Let's say both are owned by one person (however the evedence is too weak). One can have multi accounts.

not convincing enough and have not received the attention from the community,

I think the answer is already here.

PS: Have you tried to PM these users?

[TECSHARE]

I would say this constitutes pretty clear evidence of this being an alt account. I don't think any flags or ratings are appropriate at this stage. I think it would be appropriate to inform the managers of any campaigns he is involved in. If he is violating the terms of those campaigns, then a rating or a flag may be appropriate. I would like to hear the manager(s) comments on the matter.

[yahoo62278]

I would say this constitutes pretty clear evidence of this being an alt account. I don't think any flags or ratings are appropriate at this stage. I think it would be appropriate to inform the managers of any campaigns he is involved in. If he is violating the terms of those campaigns, then a rating or a flag may be appropriate. I would like to hear the manager(s) comments on the matter.

They are both managers. I would be more curious to see if they accepted each other in campaigns managed by either.

Just a side note, I asked Little Mouse on telegram if they was alts of each other and was told no. Maybe telling the truth, maybe not. Can't really say for now.

[AB de Royse777]

Can't really say for now.

I would like to hear from them first before making any conclusion. They must have an explanation. I would also ask ChuckBuck if there is any other connections he found in between these two (like address and stuffs) or just this?

[ChuckBuck]

I like users just coming out and asking what they wanna know with main accounts

Never sneak to do something  

Where is the crime here?

I am not referring to any crimes, you are overreacting  

Let's say both are owned by one person (however the evedence is too weak)

I would also ask ChuckBuck if there is any other connections he found in between these two (like address and stuffs) or just this?

This evidence is enough to conclude they are connected, at least in my opinion and in his opinion

I would say this constitutes pretty clear evidence of this being an alt account.

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I'm just talking about their connection, I don't think they're having any fraud behind, I don't like to mess things up  

Just a side note, I asked Little Mouse on telegram if they was alts of each other and was told no. Maybe telling the truth, maybe not. Can't really say for now.

To be honest, I find it too convincing  

It is absurd that a user is in Bitvest campaign, quote an application of another user to apply to Roobet campaign and saying that he is a member of Roobet campaign  

Well, he denied it  
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I would also ask ChuckBuck if there is any other connections he found in between these two (like address and stuffs) or just this?

Can you explain this? How does it make sense?

It is absurd that a user is in Bitvest campaign, quote an application of another user to apply to Roobet campaign and saying that he is a member of Roobet campaign  

[AB de Royse777]

I would also ask ChuckBuck if there is any other connections he found in between these two (like address and stuffs) or just this?

Can you explain this? How does it make sense?

It is absurd that a user is in Bitvest campaign, quote an application of another user to apply to Roobet campaign and saying that he is a member of Roobet campaign  

What I am seeing is user X quoted user Y. And based on a quote we really can not put a period in something. I would like to hear some explanations from both users. I will suggest you to PM both of them too (at least RapTarX coz it seems Little Mouse already know about it from yahoo62278) if you have not done yet.

I am not referring to any crimes, you are overreacting 

I was asking a question only. In an anonymous place there are no value for reaction (I have learnt this recent time by the way).

[cryptoaddictchie]

It is absurd that a user is in Bitvest campaign, quote an application of another user to apply to Roobet campaign and saying that he is a member of Roobet campaign

It is. But what if Little Mouse just copied the Proof of Authentication post from RaptarX as reference for his submission post, then forgot to remove his username? There's instance like this and he will realize that he didnt edit it before he send his own application.

What if your in his shoes, with the abovementioned scenario and someone quoted your wrong application? How do you defend yourself? Unless he is guilty or didnt explain it to be like that. The reason is too shallow to be tagged as alt account IMO.

[TECSHARE]

It is absurd that a user is in Bitvest campaign, quote an application of another user to apply to Roobet campaign and saying that he is a member of Roobet campaign

It is. But what if Little Mouse just copied the Proof of Authentication post from RaptarX as reference for his submission post, then forgot to remove his username? There's instance like this and he will realize that he didnt edit it before he send his own application.

What if your in his shoes, with the abovementioned scenario and someone quoted your wrong application? How do you defend yourself? Unless he is guilty or didnt explain it to be like that. The reason is too shallow to be tagged as alt account IMO.

Definitely a possibility. This is a good example of why objective standards of evidence are a good idea before rating.

[morvillz7z]

What if you're in his shoes, with the abovementioned scenario and someone quoted your wrong application?

Don't forget that Little Mouse also added (not quoted) the following:

Re-applying for Senior Member/Full Member
I was participating as Full Member in Roobet.

According to Roobet.com Signature Campaign spreadsheet Little Mouse has never been part of that campaign. Why would you want to re-apply to a campaign to which you have not applied in the first place? "Re-applying for Senior Member?" Little Mouse is still a Full Member only.

On the other hand, RapTarX was a participant for the first three weeks, accepted as a Full Member while being a Senior Member at that time back in December.

[ChuckBuck]

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Sure! Nice reason  

Definitely a possibility. This is a good example of why objective standards of evidence are a good idea before rating.

I have a question for both of you, have you read the evidence? Let me show you right here  

Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2530429
Current amount of Posts (Including this one): 625
SegWit BTC address for payouts: 35ANPBgLXrX7NU2H5YP8S5945Zae8ye97U
EARNED merit in the last 120 days: ~55

Re-applying for Senior Member/Full Member
I was participating as Full Member in Roobet.

What confusion is there if you are a member of the Bitvest campaign and he said that he had been participating as a full member in the Roobet campaign? Maybe he copied RapTarX's post to apply to himself, so what about these lines?

Re-applying for Senior Member/Full Member
I was participating as Full Member in Roobet.

Is he mistaken even in a campaign that he's not in? Did he forget temporarily the campaign he was in?

Nice reason  
Damned! I spend more time writing, morvillz7z 

[TECSHARE]

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Sure! Nice reason  

Definitely a possibility. This is a good example of why objective standards of evidence are a good idea before rating.

I have a question for both of you, have you read the evidence? Let me show you right here  

Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2530429
Current amount of Posts (Including this one): 625
SegWit BTC address for payouts: 35ANPBgLXrX7NU2H5YP8S5945Zae8ye97U
EARNED merit in the last 120 days: ~55

Re-applying for Senior Member/Full Member
I was participating as Full Member in Roobet.

What confusion is there if you are a member of the Bitvest campaign and he said that he had been participating as a full member in the Roobet campaign? Maybe he copied RapTarX's post to apply to himself, so what about these lines?

Re-applying for Senior Member/Full Member
I was participating as Full Member in Roobet.

Is he mistaken even in a campaign that he's not in? Did he forget temporarily the campaign he was in?

Nice reason  
Damned! I spend more time writing, morvillz7z 

It is possible it was just a sloppy copy and paste job.

[ChuckBuck]

It is possible it was just a sloppy copy and paste job.

Excuse me,
Can you tell me how to copy this line?

I was participating as Full Member in Roobet

I would like to hear some explanations from both users.

Yes, I would also like to hear explanations for their good reasons  

I will suggest you to PM both of them too (at least RapTarX coz it seems Little Mouse already know about it from yahoo62278) if you have not done yet.

Sorry, but I will not PM for both in this case   Little Mouse didn't trust me (He put me on the untrust list), so I thought it was unnecessary for me to report any problems to him. He should come here by himself   And of course, RapTarX too

[cryptoaddictchie]

I have a question for both of you, have you read the evidence?

Okay ChuckBuck the evidence quite pointing to something but still this is shallow proof. Since you dont want to PM them, it's your prerogative to find more convincing support for your allegations. Good luck bro.  


I think its better if those two will come here and defend themselves rather than we are speculating a non stop convo. But IMO  this is just as @TECHSHARE reiterated, a sloppy job of copy and paste.

[cabalism13]

It is. But what if Little Mouse just copied the Proof of Authentication post from RaptarX as reference for his submission post, then forgot to remove his username?

Same thing happened to my sister's account...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3401934.msg35607198#msg35607198

And for some reason that seems questionable, they've been banned.


Oh well...
Why does it seems that some users are pretty curious on some Reputed Accounts? Errr.
...maybe I can wait for my name to be called some other time ✌😂 but impossible hahaha.

[promoted9009]

Thankyou ChuckBuck for supporting my allegations about these two, even though I am just a nobody here. A newbie with a red trust


My friend told me about a contest and then I join here, and I got my red trust for simply lying about using a template on a contest here. Even though there's no rules about the template, I just lied and got a red trust.

And here we are, discussing a obvious violation here (merit abuse: sending merits to their alt account) The politics here are fucking crazy! If they see a small mistake for newbie it's easy to give a red trust! BUT!!!!! If there's a violation about about a reputable and high rank account, these shitheads are defending them! why? to have more reputable friends here? Goodluck to you all defending these two.

But IMO  this is just as @TECHSHARE reiterated, a sloppy job of copy and paste.

What are you a fucking deepshit? there's no copy paste there! It's manually type:

"Re-applying for Senior Member/Full Member
I was participating as Full Member in Roobet."

Where can you see it at the roobet thread?

Same thing happened to my sister's account...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3401934.msg35607198#msg35607198

And for some reason that seems questionable, they've been banned.

That is copy paste!! It's not related here since the evidence is manually type, Go ahead defend this "reputable accounts that you want to be friend with"



I have nothing to say, if those account didn't get a red tag for obvious violation, these forum is going down because of politics here. You guys really love defending reputable violators. Goodluck!!!!!!

[promoted9009]

All of you are afraid to give negative trust to these user's because they are high rank and reputable. What a shame.

I will guess what's going to happen here, Those two will comment here and they are going to say: "I am not his alt account, this is my own account" and magically that will resolve everything!! These reputable account defenders is going to celebrate because they defended a violator!! And this thread is going to die.

[ChuckBuck]

a sloppy job of copy and paste.

Nice reason  Please continue to protect him 

It is possible it was just a sloppy copy and paste job.

Excuse me,
Can you tell me how to copy this line?

I was participating as Full Member in Roobet

Why does it seems that some users are pretty curious on some Reputed Accounts? Errr.

if you're really reputable, nothing happens, but if you work shady and pretend to be a reputable person, someday it will appear here 

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You don't need to be angry  Your rudeness will make your words worthless  keep calm with everything here and wait for the trusted people to decide  The protagonist has not appeared here yet and of course the police will not come to arrest them yet

[Bitcoin_Arena]

All of you are afraid to give negative trust to these user's because they are high rank and reputable. What a shame.

Am i missing something here? What untrustworthy behavior have Little Mouse and RapTarX potrayed that you think should get them tagged. Sincerely even if the accounts are alts, it's not a crime to have alts unless you have caught them have engaging in shady activities like cheating in signature campaigns.