negative trust

[philanthropist67]

I came across some threads where I found this text on the top.

Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they believe that the creator of this topic displays some red flags which make them high-risk. (Check their trust page to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution.

These warning banners will disappear when you have 7 days of login time. You should familiarize yourself with the trust system before then.

my query has two parts

1. If someone gives you a negative trust, can you fight back like proving yourself correct and removing the negative trust from your profile.
2. what advantage you get if you give someone a negative trust?

[1714945058]

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[Pffrt]

1. If you have done no mistake, you will not get a negative feedback. If you receive negative feedback by mistake, you can contact with the person who left feedback and get removed the feedback. But if the person doesn't remove, no one can do anything including the admin because the trust system is not moderated.
However, if someone give wrong feedback, they will not be in DT member. So, no issue.
2. When you are going to trade, your feedback toward other will be visible and thus you will know whom to trust and whom to not.

[fortunecrypto]

If who is giving you the negative  feedback and if the reason is enough to get you one, if it is not a DT members then you have no reason to worry, you will not even know that you have one, because only DT member's feedback will reflect on your forum profile,  you can retaliate back but like what I said if it is not no need to worry, and if the reason is not valid.

[Coyster]

You cannot remove a feedback yourself, if you are givien a negative feedback by any user, the feedback can only be changed by the user who tagged you. Though if the feedback doesn't hold any ground and the user who puts it refuses to change it, then other members on DT can give counter feedbacks(positives)against such ratings.

The advantage of a genuine negative rating is that it protects other users or visitors of the forum from such user, they would learn that the forum distrusts such member and it could save them from falling into grief if they trade with such user. Though there are a lot of erroneous feedback flying around the forum so LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system is a must read.

[philanthropist67]

Thanks alot all for giving such a nice explanation.

One last question (sorry for my ignorance), What is DT member?

[Kuffy]

I believe that giving a retaliatory negative in response to one you receive just doubles the effect of the one given to you. Think very carefully before you do it, and as been mentioned, contact the accuser first.

[Pffrt]

What is DT member?

DT= Default Trust
In simple words, not each and every feedback is shown in your profile, only feedback from DT member is shown. DT members are selected by the forum algorithm- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.0
The people you are adding your trust list will be DT 1 for you.
The people DT 1 add to their trust list will be DT 2 for you.
If you have no custom trust list, you will trust the Default Trust member.

[DdmrDdmr]

<…> 1. If someone gives you a negative trust, can you fight back like proving yourself correct and removing the negative trust from your profile.

If you receive negative trust, then the only way for that to be removed is to appeal to the person who gave it to you. Nobody else can remove it. If you believe that you the negative trust in uncalled for, you can open a thread on Reputation to get the opinions of other forum members and to defend your case in public. This may or may not benefit your case, as other may chip in to defend either party.

Note that the linked image in the OP is a yellow trust flag, and not a trust rating. One may open a flag and not leave negative rating, or vice-versa. Flags are a newer feature, and are intended to give more visibility and warning when there is a substantial risk of losing economic assets when dealing with the flagged person, as per the criteria of the person who created that the flag and those that support it.

2. what advantage you get if you give someone a negative trust?

The idea behind it is to leave on the profile feedback and rating in accordance to what one considers to be a likely possibility of losing money or being scammed by the negatively rated person. It stands as a warning, which should be read in detail in the Feedback (some negative ratings are unsubstantial retaliation comments, which are not really the core intent of the system).

Ratings given by DTs (Default Trust) weigh more visually, since they affect the Trust counters on the profiles. Their feedback lists under Trusted Feedback. Feedback provided by non-DT (our outside your personal Trust network if you have one) does not have impact on the Trust counters, but you never know if those non-DT members may become DT one day, and thus conform part of the Trust counter values.

[CaptainLance]

1. If someone gives you a negative trust, can you fight back like proving yourself correct and removing the negative trust from your profile.

To put it simply, you can. Keep in mind though that a negative trust given to you by someone can only be removed by that same person.

2. what advantage you get if you give someone a negative trust?

I can't say you get "advantage" from it. It's a feedback system that shows others what they might be dealing with. It's like giving a 2 star rating to a restaurant you dislike. It serves as a warning.

[o_e_l_e_o]

you can retaliate back but like what I said if it is not no need to worry, and if the reason is not valid.

This is poor advice. Someone leaving you a negative rating is a not a good reason to leave them a negative rating back. If I don't trust someone because of something they did, that does not mean I myself am untrustworthy and deserving of negative ratings. In fact, leaving frivolous retaliatory ratings is usually the kind of behavior of we have come to expect from scammers. Honest users tend to appeal against it and state their case factually, not just go in guns blazing with retaliation.

Note that the linked image in the OP is a yellow trust flag, and not a trust rating.

To expand on DdmrDdmr's already spot-on answer, in the cases of trust flags you don't need the person who left it to remove it like you do with trust ratings. If you can convince enough DT members that the flag is incorrect, they can vote to oppose it. If more or equal numbers of DT members vote to oppose rather than support this type of flag, it will not longer be visible on your profile.

[philipma1957]

at op keep posting this thread was a good start for you.

[Harlot]

Generally if you won't be using Bitcoin as a marketplace the trust system will be useless for you since it won't affect your daily life here in the forum. Although the trust system (the one where you get positive and negative trust) is mainly used in trading in the forum it doesn't mean that trading badly or being part of a scam is the only way you'll get tag on. Members who plagiarized content, shill posts, as well as abuse the merit system do also get tag so if you think that you can do anything you want since you aren't trading in BCT then think again. Following the rules we have here in the forum is the only way you can assure yourself that you won't get a negative trust from a DT member, so I advice that you read them.

[Findingnemo]

I came across some threads where I found this text on the top.

Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they believe that the creator of this topic displays some red flags which make them high-risk. (Check their trust page to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution.

These warning banners will disappear when you have 7 days of login time. You should familiarize yourself with the trust system before then.

my query has two parts

1. If someone gives you a negative trust, can you fight back like proving yourself correct and removing the negative trust from your profile.
2. what advantage you get if you give someone a negative trust?

First you need to know now trust system has two parts as well,flags and feedback both are completely different.

You will get such warning only if you have active red flags and which are supported by others so flags mean no personal hate and feedback won't work,so if someone create flag against you for no reason then you can ask people to oppose them.

To remove your negative feedback you need to convince the person who gave you the negative trust that is the only way.
If you think that the person is not trusted enough then you can give negative feedback so other users can be saved from getting scammed.No advantage for you!

[BIT-BENDER]

1. If someone gives you a negative trust, can you fight back like proving yourself correct and removing the negative trust from your profile.

Yes most definitely if you get a negative trust you can appeal if you feel it was unjust and if you can prove yourself to be correct it can be lifted.

2. what advantage you get if you give someone a negative trust?

The more recognised negative trust any one can get and it holds water are those giving out by DT's. and this guy's has a good deal of reputation before being chosen. So other than self satisfaction and love for the forum there are no other gain attached to it -its a call to duty-

[nakamura12]

I came across some threads where I found this text on the top.

Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they believe that the creator of this topic displays some red flags which make them high-risk. (Check their trust page to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution.

These warning banners will disappear when you have 7 days of login time. You should familiarize yourself with the trust system before then.

my query has two parts

1. If someone gives you a negative trust, can you fight back like proving yourself correct and removing the negative trust from your profile.
2. what advantage you get if you give someone a negative trust?

Ask the negative trust sender. For example, I give you negative trust then only me can remove the negative trust I give to you. It is your responsibility and you should be careful not to get red trust. The advantage you get is reputation, if you successfully give neg trust to scammers and more then you'll have good reputation in busting scam projects and scammer people same with rules violators.

[sujonali1819]

If you got red trust from someone. Obviously you can fight to prove you a legit/you are not a scammer. And you can also ask the opinion of other DT members. If any DT sees the reason is not enough they can counter the previous feedback with giving positive/neutral trust.   
But I don't think a DT member will tag anybody without a valid reason.


If I give someone red trust, Personally I don't think about my advantage. I think these two things
1. If any person made any mistake then red trust can aware about it.
2. People will be aware of the person, and avoid all things that he promotes. And thus people will not lose their money.

[Yatsan]

Red trust is for scammer and forum rule breakers only, (based on Theymos).  But sadly some of DT(Default Trust) are using it for personal hate and red tagging people who do wrong things that is not scamming or forum rule breaking.

1. If someone gives you a negative trust, can you fight back like proving yourself correct and removing the negative trust from your profile.
2. what advantage you get if you give someone a negative trust?

1) Yes! you can fight back and prove that you are not scammer but, somehow even if you proven yourself that you are legit some DT will not delete the feedback or will not change it considering that it's what they think and it's their personal choice to tag you.
2) Helping the forum to fight scammers, and making this forum better.

Personally as a DT, Giving feedback is hard since you should make sure that your decision is correct and the decision I make is for forum not just for what I feel.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Red trust is for scammer and forum rule breakers only

Users who break the rules should primarily be reported to the moderators to have their posts deleted or receive a temporary or permanent ban, rather than trying to enforce the rules via the trust system. There is a little overlap, for example users who link to malware will often receive red trust as well as being banned, but the majority of offenses such as plagiarism, spam, ban evasion, etc., should be reported and not left red trust.

Unfortunately the second part of your statement is correct, and red trust is often being used as a weapon against non-scammers.

[demonica]

So as long as you're not violating any rules in the forum you won't get one right? But what will happen if you have one? Aside from having a red trust and a negative image to other users, what's the disadvantage of it? And another question, if someone had violated a rule, do you just suddenly get a red trust without prior notice?

[Ryushin]

Getting a negative trust is like been accused of something, if you can't prove it wrong then you will forever keep the red tag and no one will trust you, it's normal to get wrongly accused but you can prove it right by showing proofs

[DdmrDdmr]

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Rules are Rules and Trust is Trust. There you have it; I’ve stated the obvious which is not always seen as such.

Breaking the rules (and being reported for it, or spotted proactively by admins/mods) could lead to your post getting deleted and/or your account temporarily or permanently banned. It will depend on what you’ve done that contravenes the rules, the intent, how serious it is, and the recurrence. Breaking the rules are dealt by admins and mods, and they do not imply for a negative rating (nor should they).

Negative ratings and Trust are for what’s already been highlighted on this thread before: trying to scam or very likely to in economical terms, based on some personal or collective evidence.

Unfortunately, anyone can receive negative trust on their profile for reasons that do not appeal to the spirit of the Trust System. For example, I’ve got a couple of negative ratings from some nobodies for tagging some scammers. No problem really, since anyone can read through these things, and their rating is unsubstantiated and unsubstantial (the latter in light of them not being on DT). They will not be removed, but anyone who takes them as valid is likely not interpreting the ratings properly.

In general, negative may lead others to be more wary of you, and it is often a decisive factor for vetting campaign participants. Again, it really should be pondered with the context and content of the ratings, alongside who rated you and why.

[BayAngelo]

 Most negative feedback is as a result of lack of trust displayed by some people here incase if you want to engage with such person for transaction or anything. Feedback are necessary because some people intentionally post fake airdrops and bounties for their own selfish gains. Negative feedback can be given mistakenly and you can challange the person to prove that you are right and it can be overturn by given you are positive feedback.

[Negotiation]

So as long as you're not violating any rules in the forum you won't get one right? But what will happen if you have one? Aside from having a red trust and a negative image to other users, what's the disadvantage of it? And another question, if someone had violated a rule, do you just suddenly get a red trust without prior notice?

You are right that if you do not violate any of the rules of the forum you will not be entitled to it but if you violate the rules then you will get another Negative Trust without your prior notice. It has many disadvantages, and there are many places where you cannot work because of negative trust.

[Saisher]

I came across some threads where I found this text on the top.

Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they believe that the creator of this topic displays some red flags which make them high-risk. (Check their trust page to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution.

These warning banners will disappear when you have 7 days of login time. You should familiarize yourself with the trust system before then.

my query has two parts

1. If someone gives you a negative trust, can you fight back like proving yourself correct and removing the negative trust from your profile.
2. what advantage you get if you give someone a negative trust?

If you give some a negative feedback be sure it is reasonable or you will be reported as abusing it and worse scenario is if you are giving a bad feedback to a DT1 you will harm yourself more than you harm the one that you give feedback, don't fight back feedback if he cannot prove the allegation and if he is not part of the DT group.

[andrecalabrese]

I came across some threads where I found this text on the top.

Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they believe that the creator of this topic displays some red flags which make them high-risk. (Check their trust page to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution.

These warning banners will disappear when you have 7 days of login time. You should familiarize yourself with the trust system before then.
https://i.imgur.com/KkBFMRx.jpg

my query has two parts

1. If someone gives you a negative trust, can you fight back like proving yourself correct and removing the negative trust from your profile.
2. what advantage you get if you give someone a negative trust?

there are scammers that gives negative feedback, like bob123

[Findingnemo]

there are scammers that gives negative feedback, like bob123

Don't create personal hate for each other, this is an online forum so you can see people from different countries and they might have different views.

People trusting his feedback that is why they added into their trust list which makes him as DT member.

[Stedsm]

--snip--
1. If someone gives you a negative trust, can you fight back like proving yourself correct and removing the negative trust from your profile.
2. what advantage you get if you give someone a negative trust?

1. Yes you can, given the fact that you are actually correct and not just trolling, have complete evidence to support yourself. Being calm and patient is one other way to have that negative trust removed because you'll need patience rather than just fighting alone.

2. You won't get any advantage as your rating will only be seen to you (like when you will visit their profile and they have 0 negative ratings, it will start showing -1 to you, but to you only and not anybody else except if someone has kept you in their trust list). Other advantage is, you'll stay aware of the fact that either you don't trust that person or have some issues with them (I don't know what, but I've seen strange reasons from people while tagging some users).

there are scammers that gives negative feedback, like bob123

What made you say that about Bob123?
He had been one of the most active people in terms of spambusting, scambusting as well as possess great technical knowledge and many people (including me) on this forum are inspired by him. Do you have a single evidence to prove your words?

[philanthropist67]

So if you got negative trust from somebody it's like the end of your account jounrye here?
Because you are no entertained by any bounty program and anyone seeing your post don't trust you anymore.

[UserU]

So if you got negative trust from somebody it's like the end of your account jounrye here?
Because you are no entertained by any bounty program and anyone seeing your post don't trust you anymore.

Not necessarily, unless the numbers are huge. And by huge, even -3 is sufficient to turn many people off.

So the best way is to avoid any (trusted) red tags, or by resolving amicably with the sender(s).

[Shimmiry]

1. If someone gives you a negative trust, can you fight back like proving yourself correct and removing the negative trust from your profile.

Reporting you doesn't mean they can actually give you redtrust as long as you haven't done anything wrong nor did anything that disobeys the forum's rules and regulation. And even reporting someone whom you'd knew reported you would even make a single change with his/her reports. DT and management often checks first the validity of the report and therefore no one other than them are capable of giving you redtrusts.

2. what advantage you get if you give someone a negative trust?

Ofcourse the huge disadvantage is that having a redtrust is the disadvantage itself. LOL. Trust is a huge thing in the online world, and having a mistrust simply means you cannot be trusted thats all.

[crypto_geek55]

So the next big question is who are in DT?
Only legendry members can be DT? Who selects this panel of DTs.

[AdolfinWolf]

So the next big question is who are in DT?
Only legendry members can be DT? Who selects this panel of DTs.

No. You just need to be included by any member who is also in DT(1), and not be excluded by an equal amount of people on DT(1) (or more), Then you become DT2.

To be eligible for DT1: Read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.0 (The panel who selects other users for DT2/and can kick off members of DT1)

- If rank was determined solely using earned merit, then you must be of at least Member rank.
 - You must have been online sometime within the last 3 days.
 - Your trust list must include at least 10 users, not including ~distrust entries.
 - You must not be banned or manually blacklisted from selection.
 - You must have posted sometime within the last 30 days.
 - You must have at least 10 people directly trusting you each with an earned merit of at least 10, not including merit you yourself sent. These "votes" are limited.
 - You must have at least 2 people directly trusting you with an earned merit of at least 250, not including merit you yourself sent. These "votes" are limited.

As a special exception to the normal algorithm for determining a user's trust network, if you are on the default trust list ("DT1") but more other DT1 members distrust you than explicitly trust you, then it is as if you are distrusted by the default trust list for all purposes except for this very DT1-composition determination.

I haven't read into this before, but you can be chosen by the algorithm to be DT1, while simultaneously being voted off by other DT1 members?

What i'm trying to say is:

Even if you are distrusted by a larger n of DT1 members, considering there is only 100 slots (in the future), you will still be eligible to take up such a slot, despite never becoming DT1 due to you being excluded by other "eligible" members, if that makes sense?

If not, people could distrust entire groups, and thus make the group of eligible people smaller, in which case (if an (in)eligible member doesn't take up 1 of the 100 slots), it's rather unlikely they or their group will ever have any influence in DT1 again?
Or am i saying something obvious.

[jademaxsuy]

It is not recommended to fight or it will only get worst. The only one who can remove the negative trust is the one who give you the negative trust. If you feel that you don't deserve the negative trust then you should explain that to the one who give you the negative trust and also prove it that you don't deserve it.

[o_e_l_e_o]

You just need to be included by any member who is also in DT(1), and not be excluded by an equal amount of people on DT(1) (or more), Then you become DT2.

Slight correction: You need more exclusions than inclusions from DT1 users to be excluded from DT2. If you have equal numbers of inclusions and exclusions (giving a net score of 0), then you will be included.

I haven't read into this before, but you can be chosen by the algorithm to be DT1, while simultaneously being voted off by other DT1 members?

Correct. Just like DT1 users can include or exclude DT2 users as above, they can also do the same to fellow DT1 users. Any DT1 user with more exclusions than inclusions from fellow DT1 users will be excluded from DT1 (and potentially, but not necessarily, also from DT2). Again, as above, equal numbers of inclusions and exclusions results in an overall inclusion.

[philanthropist67]

One of the questions is still not answered. There are people in DT and they have the right to give somebody negative trust. Do people in DT get some incentive in doing such service or its just for benefit of the community?

[TryNinja]

One of the questions is still not answered. There are people in DT and they have the right to give somebody negative trust. Do people in DT get some incentive in doing such service or its just for benefit of the community?

No one gets paid for being in DT.

I have been in DT 1/2 and it didn't change anything in my life or any aspect of my account. I'm not on DT1 anymore and nothing changed, again.

People volunteer to tag scammers and that's it.

[philanthropist67]

One of the questions is still not answered. There are people in DT and they have the right to give somebody negative trust. Do people in DT get some incentive in doing such service or its just for benefit of the community?

No one gets paid for being in DT.

I have been in DT 1/2 and it didn't change anything in my life or any aspect of my account. I'm not on DT1 anymore and nothing changed, again.

People volunteer to tag scammers and that's it.

one more way to keep bitcointalk safe from scammers. there is so many scam projects caught by these DT members, salute to them.

[pixie85]

It is not recommended to fight or it will only get worst. The only one who can remove the negative trust is the one who give you the negative trust. If you feel that you don't deserve the negative trust then you should explain that to the one who give you the negative trust and also prove it that you don't deserve it.

Not true. It's always good to fight if you feel that you have not done anything wrong. Maybe you will be able to explain the case and get some supporters who will counter the negative with a positive feedback. Such things happened a few times.

If you feel like the feedback was given just to prove a point or that someone wants to damage your reputation don't be afraid to start a thread about it.

[superving]

I came across some threads where I found this text on the top.

Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they believe that the creator of this topic displays some red flags which make them high-risk. (Check their trust page to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution.

These warning banners will disappear when you have 7 days of login time. You should familiarize yourself with the trust system before then.

my query has two parts

1. If someone gives you a negative trust, can you fight back like proving yourself correct and removing the negative trust from your profile.
2. what advantage you get if you give someone a negative trust?

as long as your not  doing anything wrong they cant give you negative trust but if they saw something or you violated some of the rules they will give you negative trust . You will see referrence  link on your account , why did they give you negative trust.

[DdmrDdmr]

<…> as long as your not  doing anything wrong they cant give you negative trust but if they saw something or you violated some of the rules they will give you negative trust .<…>

Not so really …:

- You can get negative trust for not doing anything wrong. Some accounts have walls of negative trust as a means of retaliation for being scam busters, and others based on their opinions, or derived from personal vendettas. This should not happen, but it does, and it is not infrequent. The flags though are more accurate, as they have not fallen into a misuse culture (but for on exceptions).

- Breaking rules does not warrant negative trust at all. That’s what the report to moderator button is for. Trust should be commerce related in spirit, and the forum does not moderate commerce dealings (thus the Trust System, for a community based moderation through scores, feedback and flags).

[philanthropist67]

<…> as long as your not  doing anything wrong they cant give you negative trust but if they saw something or you violated some of the rules they will give you negative trust .<…>

Not so really …:

- You can get negative trust for not doing anything wrong. Some accounts have walls of negative trust as a means of retaliation for being scam busters, and others based on their opinions, or derived from personal vendettas. This should not happen, but it does, and it is not infrequent. The flags though are more accurate, as they have not fallen into a misuse culture (but for on exceptions).

- Breaking rules does not warrant negative trust at all. That’s what the report to moderator button is for. Trust should be commerce related in spirit, and the forum does not moderate commerce dealings (thus the Trust System, for a community based moderation through scores, feedback and flags).

What I learnt so far is that there are few chosen high profile accounts that can give you negative or positive trust. I am sure there high profile members wont do any injustice as there own reputation will be at stake.

[KrisAlex18]

1. If someone gives you a negative trust, can you fight back like proving yourself correct and removing the negative trust from your advantage

If you received red trust from others, you may fight with it, if you know that there is no mistake you have done then do not let this happen, you should make something to prove that you are not doing some mistakes because if you get red trust, your reputation in this forum will not be good, if you are going to make some transactions in this forum they will give you trust issues.

2. what advantages you get if you give someone a negative trust?

The benefits of giving red trust for others are only you make that person visible of being not trustworthy and it will let others know whether to give trust on the person when having a transaction.

[ghazbaz2019]

Hi, I got Negative trust in my profile am rejected from all bounties but I didn't do anything wrong I just join bounties only why got that plz help me  anyone help me  thanks.

[GeorgeJohn]

So as long as you're not violating any rules in the forum you won't get one right? But what will happen if you have one? Aside from having a red trust and a negative image to other users, what's the disadvantage of it? And another question, if someone had violated a rule, do you just suddenly get a red trust without prior notice?

Your question is a smart question, and despite that this thread an is old thread that just resurrected few hours ago and which I don't know if you are still functionable to the community any longer. So over to the question, this community is like institution, organization. And each institution or organization has it own rules and regulations of the platform, from the rules they are some of the condition that is meant for correction and mercy, so relating it to bitcointalk community, if you violates the protocols of the community you have penalty to face according the evidence of your commitment.

[shawon01]

If someone gives you negative feedback then it will be seen on your profile if he / she is going to be a TT member and if the negative feedback he / she is not from two members then it will not be seen. If he / she is not from two members then there is no reason to worry.  If you are a member then you can tell him to pick up your negative feedback and if he does not give up then it is not possible to take it any more then it will be removed only then.  When he leaves the DT member.

[ghazbaz2019]

If someone gives you negative feedback then it will be seen on your profile if he / she is going to be a TT member and if the negative feedback he / she is not from two members then it will not be seen. If he / she is not from two members then there is no reason to worry.  If you are a member then you can tell him to pick up your negative feedback and if he does not give up then it is not possible to take it any more then it will be removed only then.  When he leaves the DT member.

How can I see who gives me negative trust where can I find him bro help me I have been remove from all bounty its my old account.

[DdmrDdmr]

<…> How can I see who gives me negative trust where can I find him bro help me I have been remove from all bounty its my old account.

It’s actually on you profile. You need to click on the "Trust:" caption in order to access this screen:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2253670


Nevertheless:
-   The trust points to something related to plagiarism. That’s not what Trust is for. If he believes you committed plagiarism, he should report it to the mods, and the mods will decide on that.

-   The reference points to an Airdrop spreadsheet. That proves nothing specific. The point of providing references is to make them meaningful for others to understand.

[Daniel91]

Hi, I got Negative trust in my profile am rejected from all bounties but I didn't do anything wrong I just join bounties only why got that plz help me  anyone help me  thanks.

No one on this forum can help you with that.
Negative trust can't be edited or changed even by the admins on the forum, only the person who gave you the negative trust can remove it.
Try to contact the person who gave you the negative trust directly, explain your reasons and ask him to remove the negative trust.
There is no other way to solve it.
Negative trust is not an absolute category and can change over time.

[Stalker22]

How can I see who gives me negative trust where can I find him bro help me I have been remove from all bounty its my old account.

Let's put yor negative trust aside for a moment. Are you aware that you are not allowed to create new accounts while your other account is banned?

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archive: https://ninjastic.space/post/59208689

Accounts Connected: (Note: Banned shown in red / Inactive in Blue)

1. amnakhan2011 BANNED
2. syedrasool2020 BANNED
3. albertjohn2020 BANNED
4. nazeerkhan20011 (Archived)
5. ghazbaz2 (Archived)
6. irfankhan2018 (Archived)

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Related Addresses:

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ETH Wallet Address: 0x9E2A20D6298438532e4830cd33350541dc057A7E

[ghazbaz2019]

How can I see who gives me negative trust where can I find him bro help me I have been remove from all bounty its my old account.

Let's put yor negative trust aside for a moment. Are you aware that you are not allowed to create new accounts while your other account is banned?

Proof of authentication;
Telegram username: @syedrasool2011
Campaigns applied: Youtube.
ERC20 wallet address: 0x9E2A20D6298438532e4830cd33350541dc057A7E

archive: https://ninjastic.space/post/59208689

Accounts Connected: (Note: Banned shown in red / Inactive in Blue)

1. amnakhan2011 BANNED
2. syedrasool2020 BANNED
3. albertjohn2020 BANNED
4. nazeerkhan20011 (Archived)
5. ghazbaz2 (Archived)
6. irfankhan2018 (Archived)

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ETH Wallet Address: 0x9E2A20D6298438532e4830cd33350541dc057A7E

You give negative Trust sir plz i will not do that again sorry sir that's your message sir Cheating in bounty campaigns, ban evasion give me last chance remove negative trust thanks sir.

[Stalker22]

You give negative Trust sir plz i will not do that again sorry sir that's your message sir Cheating in bounty campaigns, ban evasion give me last chance remove negative trust thanks sir.

You gotta be fucking kidding me! This is at least the sixth instance in which you violated the rules of this forum by evading bans, and you are now asking for another chance? You see how pathetic and broken you sound.

[Ryu_Ar1]

How can I see who gives me negative trust where can I find him bro help me I have been remove from all bounty its my old account.

Let's put yor negative trust aside for a moment. Are you aware that you are not allowed to create new accounts while your other account is banned?

Proof of authentication;
Telegram username: @syedrasool2011
Campaigns applied: Youtube.
ERC20 wallet address: 0x9E2A20D6298438532e4830cd33350541dc057A7E

archive: https://ninjastic.space/post/59208689

Accounts Connected: (Note: Banned shown in red / Inactive in Blue)

1. amnakhan2011 BANNED
2. syedrasool2020 BANNED
3. albertjohn2020 BANNED
4. nazeerkhan20011 (Archived)
5. ghazbaz2 (Archived)
6. irfankhan2018 (Archived)

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ETH Wallet Address: 0x9E2A20D6298438532e4830cd33350541dc057A7E

I don't know if this is indeed a violation or not but,
amnakhan2011 BANNED
ghazbaz2 (Archived)
and one account more
sohail2021

Also have a link in their Address

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ETH Wallet Address: 0xd314582310BF4FE1719C8D035CA7798c88030909

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#PROOF OF AUTHENTICATION
Forum Username: amnakhan2020
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2749328
Telegram Username: @amnakhan2021
ERC-20 Address: 0xd314582310BF4FE1719C8D035CA7798c88030909

Proof of authentication
- ETH: 0xd314582310BF4FE1719C8D035CA7798c88030909
- Email: mamagamezone1@gmail.com
- Campaigns applied for: Articles, Videos
CBT WALLET: 0xCBaFBA761eD2bcE7ADc3B72197B45925E637C675

#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum Username: sohail2021
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3243359
Telegram Username: @sohail2023
Participated Campaigns: Article.Youtube.
ERC wallet address: 0xd314582310BF4FE1719C8D035CA7798c88030909

If this is indeed a violation, it means that you are dishonest, friend, because what I see is that the address is still active and did the Bounty registration a few days ago

[Stalker22]

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If this is indeed a violation, it means that you are dishonest, friend, because what I see is that the address is still active and did the Bounty registration a few days ago

Yes, you are right. This is clearly a violation of forum rules by evading a ban. He has been doing this for years and I doubt he will stop anytime soon. All we can do is continue exposing and reporting his alt accounts until a forum moderator steps in and bans them again.

[Mahiyammahi]

You can fight back , If you think that blaming you is not  right. But I think DT members won't give you any redtrust if you're fully innocent. After verifying everything they give you red trust.

There's no merit of giving you any redtrust. It's a system to stop member who's violating forums rule.

[Ryu_Ar1]

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If this is indeed a violation, it means that you are dishonest, friend, because what I see is that the address is still active and did the Bounty registration a few days ago

Yes, you are right. This is clearly a violation of forum rules by evading a ban. He has been doing this for years and I doubt he will stop anytime soon. All we can do is continue exposing and reporting his alt accounts until a forum moderator steps in and bans them again.

yep, that's been the case for at least a long time and it's really hard to change this kind of cheating habit. How many accounts does he have and that's quite a lot in my opinion.
It should be natural for him to stop now

[Smartvirus]

my query has two parts

1. If someone gives you a negative trust, can you fight back like proving yourself correct and removing the negative trust from your profile.
2. what advantage you get if you give someone a negative trust?

Bitcointalkforum is not some savagery platform. When it got to do with things of trust ratings and even at times, other accusations that needs to be proven, it gives you that chance of defense to clear your user to be of reputable character.  When you are tagged out of suspicion, you can either create an appeal thread, appeal to the DT who might have tagged you or possibly right your wrongs and the DT whom might have tagged you might consider withdrawing his or her tagging of your account.

Talking about advantage, it doesn't have to help him or her in per say but, it in turn helps you and other users of the forum. The DT have found a flaw for which, he or she is not likely to play into but other users might and as such, he or she chooses to caution you on how to act when dealing with such user and as such, preventing the inevitable should it be true.

[Peace23]

Please what can I do? I got two negative trust on my account and I don't know why.
I don't buy or sell anything on this platform, I only do bounties, I don't have two accounts and I don't cheat.
Please what can I do?

[DdmrDdmr]

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The only thing you can do, is to convince the two people that gave you those negative ratings that they are wrong, despite the evidence provided in the reference link on the Trust ratings on your profile.

In order to do that, you can resort to one or both of the following:

-   PM them, and give a well-argued explanation why you consider them wrong.

-   Open a thread on Reputation, and likewise, explain to the general reader why you consider they are wrong. This is to draw attention for others to give their opinion (mind you, things can go further south by drawing attention to the case).

You're going to have to make a pretty good case though, in my opinion, to revert the ratings  ...

[Rikafip]

Please what can I do? I got two negative trust on my account and I don't know why.

Everything is explained in the reference link of those negative feedback that you got.

Please what can I do?

Before you open thread in reputation section, you should reply to those accusations in Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk IV (2022 Q2 but considering the provided evidence (shared address with few other accounts that joined the same bounty) chances of removing both of those negative feedbacks are slim to none.

[Blank-Head]

I will say first that believe me it is a retaliatory and negative process that you will also get. And it will double the impact you give. Think carefully before you do it in a very active way. Do what you are told. Get in touch with those who are involved in this and get advice on what is best to do and what is best to do.

[FatFork]

Please what can I do?

You can either reply to the post referenced by these negative feedbacks on your account, or open a new thread in the Reputation section to defend your case. There is no reason to necrobump this old thread.

[Cryptomultiplier]

I never pray for negative trust as a feedback after painstakingly tried being active for an ample amount of time. With natural experiences i have garnered over the years, it is rather pertinent to fight to gain back your trust by either confronting the one who left the mark of mistrust or better still, ignore and try some other way to gain it back. The soldiers way is to fight for your right, if one is wrong, self examination and correction should be appied, otherwise, play dumb and prove them right.