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April 12, 2014, 11:31:53 AM |
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Also want to buy 50m Nas for 0.50btc pm me i like a gamble on a weekend
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TwinWinNerD
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April 12, 2014, 11:51:46 AM |
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So you guys are telling me, that you want to buy at 1 satoshi while it is traded at ~ 15?
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notsoshifty
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April 12, 2014, 12:06:29 PM |
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So you guys are telling me, that you want to buy at 1 satoshi while it is traded at ~ 15?
Well, there's no trading at 15. But somebody really wants out at 11: Actually, that sell wall gets put up and taken down frequently, basically it changes every time I refresh. What does that mean? The answer to your question: yes
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April 12, 2014, 12:10:29 PM |
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So you guys are telling me, that you want to buy at 1 satoshi while it is traded at ~ 15?
Well, there's no trading at 15. But somebody really wants out at 11: Actually, that sell wall gets put up and taken down frequently, basically it changes every time I refresh. What does that mean? The answer to your question: yes thats a buy level...
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notsoshifty
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April 12, 2014, 12:15:57 PM |
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thats a buy level...
Oops. Doh, you're right, sorry
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April 12, 2014, 12:47:06 PM |
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what gives this coin value? Not trying to be troll, but seriously, what advantage it has to any other coin? Knowing there are few similar coins with some bonus features and bigger comunities coming, I dont see why should anyone see this coin as attractive.
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April 12, 2014, 12:53:35 PM |
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what gives this coin value? Not trying to be troll, but seriously, what advantage it has to any other coin? Knowing there are few similar coins with some bonus features and bigger comunities coming, I dont see why should anyone see this coin as attractive.
Lets wait and see how our dev implements old and new features and then judge! This coin is basically the first working clone, that will always be relevant. I think this coin will be established soon
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notsoshifty
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April 12, 2014, 12:56:14 PM |
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thats a buy level...
Oops. Doh, you're right, sorry But now I don't understand why somebody was repeatedly putting up and taking down a buy order at 11 satoshi for 1 billion NAS (110 BTC worth)? They want those coins or they don't? Doesn't appear in trade history so I guess he backed out. And why has somebody put up dozens of tiny bids at 10sat?
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April 12, 2014, 12:57:33 PM |
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someone got 20% of the entire minting or is this incorrect?
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April 12, 2014, 01:04:42 PM |
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But now I don't understand why somebody was repeatedly putting up and taking down a buy order at 11 satoshi for 1 billion NAS (110 BTC worth)? They want those coins or they don't? Doesn't appear in trade history so I guess he backed out.
And why has somebody put up dozens of tiny bids at 10sat?
It's called Market Manipulation... someone was trying to get buyers to Bid higher... probably using depositors' BTC too... rofl. YADA YADA spreading fud all day...
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April 12, 2014, 01:11:23 PM |
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rofl. YADA YADA spreading fud all day...
ROFLMAO! ...some of you folks will be keeping Emule company very very soon on my Ignore List... Dude, you were just accusing Graviton of cheating his customers. You should be on the ignore list...
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April 12, 2014, 01:18:24 PM |
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Dude, you were just accusing Graviton of cheating his customers. You should be on the ignore list...
Whatya waiting for? All I did today was place a Bid for 50M NAS for 0.50 BTC... I must have struck some type of nerve I guess... Let me tell you... BCNext has left many folks with some serious PTSD!!! No, you said that the bid order was placed with customer funds. That would be cheating and graviton would never do that. I thought you were a reasonable guy from the NXT thread, but looks like you are just a little kiddy.
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April 12, 2014, 01:20:12 PM |
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Is it true that the top 3 IPO investors received 37% of all coins, and the top 11 IPO investors received 71% of all coins? Ranking | Account Number | NAS received | % of total 10bn NAS | 1 | 16545239077924294773 | 1993005000 | 19.93% | 2 | 1017925928554332177 | 997500000 | 9.98% | 3 | 12962305291451856272 | 733761000 | 7.34% | 4 | 10154666925216279036 | 527478000 | 5.27% | 5 | 9437257435252063080 | 470820000 | 4.71% | 6 | 17852752570692853871 | 439698000 | 4.4% | 7 | 9431573599992481224 | 399000000 | 3.99% | 8 | 3946695318601168288 | 399000000 | 3.99% | 9 | 9073375756757743601 | 399000000 | 3.99% | 10 | 9936206869497287267 | 399000000 | 3.99% | 11 | 7827670721723948264 | 398800500 | 3.99% |
So NAS is a clone of Nxt, with the only innovation being that it takes Nxt's worst feature (bad initial distribution) and makes it even worse. It will be severely dumped by those top 10-15 investors; how is anybody in their right mind paying 20 satoshi for this?!? how many btc did that person pay for 20% of the entire minting?
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April 12, 2014, 01:34:18 PM |
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i wonder if op is the same as BCnext or whatever the dev that started NXT and disappeared....
I also missed this one agiannnn even though I was looking out for it.....
damn.
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April 12, 2014, 01:41:52 PM |
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how many btc did that person pay for 20% of the entire minting?
Full list is at: http://nascoin.org/list.txtIt shows that the 20% IPO investment cost 0.4995 BTC, i.e. 0.025 satoshi per NAS. I don't think that has much relevance for the current value of the coin or his holdings, though. My beef is purely about the market control that will take place for a very long time when the distribution is like this. Like Nxt, but times ten.
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April 12, 2014, 01:52:36 PM |
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how many btc did that person pay for 20% of the entire minting?
Well... based on p=~39,900,000 from the IPO... it would be 0.4995 BTC for 1993005000 NAS. Thus my healthy Bid... [WTB] 50M NAS for 0.50 BTC Yes in that case that seems more than fair. He paid 40x less so seems a fair profit. If that person every wants to make real bank he will be selling 50% + of that for reasonable money right now. I mean if you were to replicate nxt the first thing you would do is make sure the number 1 criticism aimed at nxt was fixed..... not make it worse? seems stupid giving the IPO holders so much of it.
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April 12, 2014, 01:54:32 PM |
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how many btc did that person pay for 20% of the entire minting?
Full list is at: http://nascoin.org/list.txtIt shows that the 20% IPO investment cost 0.4995 BTC, i.e. 0.025 satoshi per NAS. I don't think that has much relevance for the current value of the coin or his holdings, though. My beef is purely about the market control that will take place for a very long time when the distribution is like this. Like Nxt, but times ten. So what is the actual distribution, and what was the original distribution model by OP?
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April 12, 2014, 02:37:47 PM |
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Says who? Your badass daddy says, or was it Simon This mofo smaragda has been on my tail since day one in NXT yelling poo for my business, thought he would have dropped the senseless crap already but no shit here we go again on a new venue, hold onto your hats So just that you here at NAS also realize that apparently a reasonable person can be utterly confused in the inside. It's called a personality disorder. Their symptoms alleviate when you ignore them.
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notsoshifty
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April 12, 2014, 02:49:44 PM |
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Full list is at: http://nascoin.org/list.txtIt shows that the 20% IPO investment cost 0.4995 BTC, i.e. 0.025 satoshi per NAS. I don't think that has much relevance for the current value of the coin or his holdings, though. My beef is purely about the market control that will take place for a very long time when the distribution is like this. Like Nxt, but times ten. So what is the actual distribution, and what was the original distribution model by OP? Full original distribution, as well as I could determine: Account | NXT paid | BTC paid | BTC equiv paid | NAS recv | %age NAS recv | 11840861149211111342 | | | Giveaways | 50000000 | 0.50% | 12006148579748690769 | | | Promotions | 700000000 | 7.00% | 1086840670151491145 | | | Bounties | 260051500 | 2.60% | 16545239077924294773 | | 0.4995 | 0.4995 | 1993005000 | 19.93% | 1017925928554332177 | | 0.2500 | 0.2500 | 997500000 | 9.98% | 12962305291451856272 | | 0.1839 | 0.1839 | 733761000 | 7.34% | 10154666925216279036 | | 0.1322 | 0.1322 | 527478000 | 5.27% | 9437257435252063080 | | 0.1180 | 0.1180 | 470820000 | 4.71% | 17852752570692853871 | | 0.1102 | 0.1102 | 439698000 | 4.40% | 9431573599992481224 | | 0.1000 | 0.1000 | 399000000 | 3.99% | 3946695318601168288 | | 0.1000 | 0.1000 | 399000000 | 3.99% | 9073375756757743601 | | 0.1000 | 0.1000 | 399000000 | 3.99% | 7827670721723948264 | 1999 | | 0.1000 | 398800500 | 3.99% | 9936206869497287267 | 2000 | | 0.1000 | 390900000 | 3.91% | 6757106139750505660 | | 0.0500 | 0.0500 | 199500000 | 2.00% | 9807652294200941599 | | 0.0500 | 0.0500 | 199500000 | 2.00% | 1628053033712482431 | | 0.0400 | 0.0400 | 159600000 | 1.60% | 10411181763421717624 | 600 | | 0.0300 | 119700000 | 1.20% | 13340441765685234177 | | 0.0295 | 0.0295 | 117705000 | 1.18% | 2665424699584187240 | | 0.0286 | 0.0286 | 114114000 | 1.14% | 8765228304511562346 | | 0.0275 | 0.0275 | 109725000 | 1.10% | 2289894675599110278 | 400 | | 0.0200 | 79800000 | 0.80% | 13113454963859208480 | | 0.0200 | 0.0200 | 79800000 | 0.80% | 6316362893724795120 | | 0.0194 | 0.0194 | 77406000 | 0.77% | 16993083641290301581 | 328 | | 0.0164 | 65436000 | 0.65% | 14475745119171788011 | 325 | | 0.0163 | 64837500 | 0.65% | 8308729330645503538 | 300 | | 0.0150 | 59850000 | 0.60% | 14373335525897642883 | | 0.0144 | 0.0144 | 57456000 | 0.57% | 16367797960824126756 | | 0.0126 | 0.0126 | 50274000 | 0.50% | 9485030354462066429 | 227 | | 0.0114 | 45286500 | 0.45% | 3313847451723581783 | | 0.0104 | 0.0104 | 41496000 | 0.41% | 9482541464674828568 | | 0.01 | 0.0100 | 39900000 | 0.40% | 7068347713368721772 | | 0.01 | 0.0100 | 39900000 | 0.40% | 6263250438026737536 | | 0.0100 | 0.0100 | 39900000 | 0.40% | 3566529006070904939 | | 0.0100 | 0.0100 | 39900000 | 0.40% | 14938913679117208750 | | 0.0100 | 0.0100 | 39900000 | 0.40% | TOTAL | 6179NXT | 1.946207BTC | 2.255157BTC | 10000000000 | 100% |
Note that the first entry "Giveaways" was distributed amongst 500 people (100000 each, or 0.001% of total NAS each); these are not individually listed here. So: - 90% distributed pro-rata to investors with an assumed NXT/BTC rate of 5000 satoshi. Total BTC equivalent invested: 2.255157 BTC. - The other 10% giveaways, bounties, promotions If by 'actual distribution' you mean how it currently is: there's no real way to determine whether funds transferred from one account to another have been sold/given to another person, or are still controlled by the original person. It's common for people to distribute their funds (eggs & baskets etc). Those on dgex are probably all in one or two accounts (that is how it was done for Nxt). This coin is only a few days old so it's unlikely to have been distributed much yet.
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April 12, 2014, 03:02:35 PM |
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But now I don't understand why somebody was repeatedly putting up and taking down a buy order at 11 satoshi for 1 billion NAS (110 BTC worth)? They want those coins or they don't? Doesn't appear in trade history so I guess he backed out.
And why has somebody put up dozens of tiny bids at 10sat?
It's called Market Manipulation... someone was trying to get buyers to Bid higher... probably using depositors' BTC too... Either somebody's doing fake trades to/from himself and/or his chums, or there's some very stupid people making purchases, or NAS has a market cap of 36 billion dollars: Time | Units | Price | Vol | 15:49:57 | 100 | 0.009 | 0.9 | 15:49:42 | 100 | 0.009 | 0.9 | 15:44:58 | 750000 | 0.00000013 | 0.0975 | 15:44:05 | 100 | 0.009 | 0.9 | 15:43:41 | 100 | 0.009 | 0.9 | 15:43:29 | 100 | 0.009 | 0.9 | 15:43:25 | 10000 | 0.00000013 | 0.0013 | 15:43:00 | 480 | 0.00000013 | 0.0000624 | 15:41:40 | 100 | 0.009 | 0.9 | 15:41:21 | 100 | 0.009 | 0.9 | 15:40:47 | 100 | 0.009 | 0.9 | 15:40:33 | 100 | 0.009 | 0.9 | 15:36:28 | 1083000 | 0.00000014 | 0.15162 | 15:35:50 | 100 | 0.009 | 0.9 | 15:35:37 | 100 | 0.009 | 0.9 | 15:35:36 | 390100 | 0.00000014 | 0.054614 | 15:35:24 | 100 | 0.009 | 0.9 | 15:34:43 | 48689 | 0.00000013 | 0.00632957 | 15:30:57 | 300000 | 0.00000014 | 0.042 | 15:30:14 | 100 | 0.009 | 0.9 | 15:30:00 | 100 | 0.009 | 0.9 | 15:29:53 | 1000000 | 0.00000014 | 0.14 | 15:29:09 | 100 | 0.009 | 0.9 | 15:28:45 | 100 | 0.0009 | 0.09 | 15:27:56 | 5000 | 0.00000001 | 0.00005 | 15:26:34 | 100 | 0.00009 | 0.009 | 15:26:31 | 655665 | 0.00000013 | 0.08523645 | 15:26:24 | 246 | 0.00000013 | 0.00003198 | 15:26:11 | 100 | 0.000009 | 0.0009 | 15:25:47 | 60 | 0.00000099 | 0.0000594 | 15:24:14 | 9000 | 0.000001 | 0.009 | 15:23:49 | 9979 | 0.00000001 | 0.00009979 | 15:23:12 | 80 | 0.000001 | 0.00008 | 15:22:19 | 85 | 0.00000001 | 0.00000085 |
Why does Graviton allow this?!? If whoever is doing this owns up publicly and can provide solid proof to me (means, an email from Graviton), I'll return the 0.9 BTC (minus fees) that I sniped.
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