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March 20, 2020, 02:52:54 AM
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Good Day Everyone and especially to DireWolfM14

I have known theyoungmillionaire for about 2 years now and we've been talking in telegram starting from the day we've talk here in this community until this last month of February 2. I don't know why he let his account became dormant considering that he has a pending loan in this community which I think is very large chunk of money here in the Philippines and requires clear conversation with the lender.  DireWolfM14 is correct that he is starting a physical bitcoin business in the Philippines (in our country) and is looking for people who will lend him some money for the production of his Physical Bitcoin collectibles and other Bitcoin related products which is specifically designed for our country. Prior to that, I advised him that he is taking too much financial risk if he is going to continue to borrow money from other people in building his business empire, but I do not think if he is listening or not.

Furthermore, it would be very beneficial for DireWolfM14 if he is going to talk some of the admin or people from the GCC Community (Global Cryptocurrency) as he is a former Ambassador of Global Cryptocurrency.

Telegram: t.me/GCCcoin

You might also want to read this article for more information about theyoungmillionaire

It’s update time: GCC Ambassadors and GitHub code repo.


From our very last conversation, he mentioned that he is doing some programming in building his bitcoin business website and is struggling to publicize it into the community due to some of the inconsistencies and functionalities of the website.

I don't know what happened with theyoungmillionaire but I hope that he is not being affected with the pandemic. He became my brother in this community who guided me in this forum. Unfortunately, I also feel bad about him since I also lend him a small fraction of BTC that comes from my allowance in college and commissioned drawings.

I hope this helps you DireWolfM14. I will also support your flag and will remove it if theyoungmillionaire comply.

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March 20, 2020, 03:09:42 AM
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The GitHub repo is not active and just one commit the last year and now, nothing, I guess it has failed. The real name of him can be seen on that article and I don't know if it's real but as what BitcoinGirl.Club said that doesn't matter as long as he pays his defaulted loan to Direwolf14. Supported the flag.
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March 20, 2020, 07:04:19 PM
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I think the guy (theyoungmillionaire) in subject used fake location and it either he's a native of Filipino who reside in -5 time zone (Jamaica, Panama etc) due to the time i saw on his profile page at the local time space.
None of this does not matter anymore. What matters is if he comes back and repay DireWolfM14 and we might learn a lesson here that in this space no one is trusted with a good amount of money unless he has a very good past record of handling large sums like OgNasty did for the forum. There are few more like DarkStar_ too.
You're absolutely right. I hope this is not somehow related to the doxxing said by theymos but trying to help cause i did some few searches with the name i found on the post provided by Maus0728 and this is what i found.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HHnJPvcXqnM
https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=153762051338778&id=173104782710804
In the meantime, i think user Maus0728 will have his phone number where DireWolfM14 can contact him since they are friends friend.

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March 21, 2020, 10:28:42 AM
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I also remember, theyoungmillionaire made a loan in our Local section, theyoungmillionaire PMed me and he/she want to make a loan and we decided it to post all proof (signed keys from his/her bitcoin wallet and all are verified there) in the Lending thread in our Local and I was able to lend him last May 30, 2019 and after less than 2 weeks, he/she was able to paid back the loan, June 11, 2019.
And after his/her loan in me in our Local section, as I recall before, theyoungmillionaire was able to ask a loan for DireWolfM14.

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March 21, 2020, 06:55:39 PM
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Dont know what happend to theyoungmillionaire and just have seen this thread now !
I put him for now on my Distrust list and wait for support the Flag!
His last activity was January 06, 2020 so maybe something is happend !
If he dont get online in the the next 2 weeks and explain what is happend i will support the flag and will delete my Feedback !

Normaly its not the behave he doing or has done in past !

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March 22, 2020, 01:36:18 AM
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Given noone has come forward to say their account has been hacked it's very likely that tym has done an exit scam and they therefore have other alts out there that are building up trust to do the same thing over and over again.  Can anyone give information on distinct things tym has said or done that might build up a finger-print or profile?  I see some people have touched on spelling as a possible area of focus.

As others have mention I have given negative trust feedback and added distrust of tym on my trust list.  I don't imagine I'll be removing either anytime soon.

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Hi DireWolfM14,

Ive been in contact a long time ago with TYM and I know his affiliation on GCC project. He did invited me before to join their activity to learn and earn on their business but I did refuse as my priority is of different course. I admire him, due to his outstanding performance in posting here, but with the said issue of loan default. I would like to help a bit with some information I know. Weve been in contact two years ago with the Facebook account his using but now (deactivated). Its just sad that this guy went ghost for this default loan. Many has admired him on our local community (including me) and look forward to his achievement. I am not sure whether he got rekt on his business or been sick or any reason for his absence. But the mere fact that he turn down his social account, and leaving our Filipino group on telegram, means he is evading and avoiding such payment. I know you will be making necessary action for this. We do hope that you can still recover what you have lost. Below are some info hope can help.

Contacts or any proof that might help you reach him

He informed me a long time before his from Abra, Northen Province of Philippiens but migrated to Masbate, part of Visayas Region, Philippines. This info can help you identified his whereabout by looking into details if necessary.

https://www.facebook.com/The.Young.Millionaires.Team/videos/1811217755605964/
Group on Facebook. As what mentioned by @Maus0728


Based on this video, and the personal pictures/photos he send me thru messenger. I think this is the TYM real looks. Similar, but his name is hard to know if valid or just an alias unless, confirm on Philippines Statistic Association.

Can anyone give information on distinct things tym has said or done that might build up a finger-print or profile?  I see some people have touched on spelling as a possible area of focus.
I have few photos or personal pictures scraped from our discussion before (around 2018) on chat app, also his name used on Facebook but likewise, this is hard to prove unless done some verification on PSA, NBI, or any agency on the Philippines.




NOTE: for OP, I can send to you the pictures in PM, if you need it @DireWolfM14 for validation and used as evidence for recovering your funds (cant post here the photos as these are sensitive to post here and still respect his identity and privacy)

But for the meantime, I guess everyone should give him time to open up to clear things here. I just so sad that one of the best User on our Local fall on this kind of situation. I do hope he clears his name and paid you but if not and really make an exit scam then I truly sorry for that.  Sad

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March 22, 2020, 08:55:46 AM
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Careful here: DOXing is only allowed in Investigations. You should probably move your post, see theymos' post.

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Careful here: DOXing is only allowed in Investigations.
Hello there, maybe you put wrong url.
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Careful here: DOXing is only allowed in Investigations.
Hello there, maybe you put wrong url.
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What part of OFF LIMITS do you not understand?  Did you think that Newbies would be allowed to just sign up and then scrape all the information that is stored there?  If you preserve, you might just rank up enough to see that section.

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March 22, 2020, 07:42:12 PM
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Oooh My goodness  Shocked
This definitely has come as a very big surprise to me. I never interacted with  theyoungmillionaire personally but his good deeds around the forum would never go unnoticed.

Looking at purpose of the loan which TYM said was trading, could we also think of a possibility that he did try to do spot/margin trading and got rekt during the recent unexpected down trend?

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Oooh My goodness  Shocked
This definitely has come as a very big surprise to me. I never interacted with  theyoungmillionaire personally but his good deeds around the forum would never go unnoticed.

Looking at purpose of the loan which TYM said was trading, could we also think of a possibility that he did try to do spot/margin trading and got rekt during the recent unexpected down trend?
Rekt or not you should still keep an open line of communication with your lender and try to work out a repayment plan. Honestly, you should never take a loan period if you do not have the means to repay it if your reason for the loan falls through.

When users get loans here, they are not thinking about the repayment. They always(maybe not always but most of the time) think what they're getting the loan for will happen for them. Id their deal goes south, whether it be trading, gambling, or some other reason, they will just cease all communication and walk away from the forum on their account. They know they can just buy another account cheaper then repaying the large loan.

Lenders should take that into consideration when making large loans. There are no repercussions except losing their account. Most are not reputable enough to care about having to start over.

Might be better to start getting ID from users so you could at least possibly prosecute someone in court if they don't repay you. Either way, some system needs set in place to make users accountable for their actions.

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Might be better to start getting ID from users so you could at least possibly prosecute someone in court if they don't repay you. Either way, some system needs set in place to make users accountable for their actions.

I don't think that's a good idea, identification documents are way too easy to forge and that could lead lenders to assume a false sense of security.  That's one of the reasons I'm not too hopeful about other members claiming to know who theyoungmillionaire is IRL.  They may be right, but they could just as easily have been misled by theyoungmillionaire falsely disclosing information and photographs that were intended to mislead.

In fact, recently I had a member take his time being very friendly, sending messages on a chat app just to "say hi," sending me photos of himself participating in hobbies of his...  Sure enough, he eventually asked me for a loan.  Not a big one, but one I wouldn't qualify him for on the basis of his account status.  Were all those messages just to build up to the loan request?  Are the photos legitimately of him?  I can't say for sure, as I don't know what his plans were and how long he's been brewing them.

I would also be concerned about malicious use of IDs.  For example; Alice could pretend to be Bob while applying for a loan, with the intention of defaulting and framing Bob. 

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Last edit: March 24, 2020, 11:26:26 AM by JollyGood
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It would not be a surprise if that user was sending photos of himself (either real or fake) for the intention of asking for a loan. Nothing to say he was not genuine but since you have a loan service you might be contacted far more often than many others would.

As for theyoungmillionaire he really should have kept in touch to advise you what happened with his late payments, it would have at least showed something from his side. It is definitely not nice to take a loss on a loan, I think the amount he took was not exactly massive but he might have had his reasons. Suppose his account was created for the sole purpose or asking a lender for a loan or suppose his account was purchased not long ago with the intention of running it for a short time before asking for a loan he had no intention of paying.

I think KYC for your loan service would be a bad idea for the reasons you mentioned below about framing someone else or even forging documents. Non-collateral loans and even those with low-level collateral are too risky to take a chance on.


I don't think that's a good idea, identification documents are way too easy to forge and that could lead lenders to assume a false sense of security.  That's one of the reasons I'm not too hopeful about other members claiming to know who theyoungmillionaire is IRL.  They may be right, but they could just as easily have been misled by theyoungmillionaire falsely disclosing information and photographs that were intended to mislead.

In fact, recently I had a member take his time being very friendly, sending messages on a chat app just to "say hi," sending me photos of himself participating in hobbies of his...  Sure enough, he eventually asked me for a loan.  Not a big one, but one I wouldn't qualify him for on the basis of his account status.  Were all those messages just to build up to the loan request?  Are the photos legitimately of him?  I can't say for sure, as I don't know what his plans were and how long he's been brewing them.

I would also be concerned about malicious use of IDs.  For example; Alice could pretend to be Bob while applying for a loan, with the intention of defaulting and framing Bob.  

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March 23, 2020, 02:40:13 PM
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Not that really matters now but I supported the flag, I'm gonna leave a negative feedback as well.
I don't know what happened with the guy but for sure didn't expect such stupid reaction from him if he did it on purpose. Sometimes funny things happen which are so ridiculous that sound like a blatant lie but are true I hope this is the case of TYM comes back and he repays his loan ASAP.  We have exchanged some PMs in the past but nothing serious, he looked like a nice guy. I've seen him in my list with inactive merited people but never thought that the reason was a defaulted loan.

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It's extremely sad to see this happen, hopefully this problem will be resolved and his account recovered, which is still possible (maybe he's reading here). For now I've removed him from my trust list (should be updated next weekend).

Last year, he PMed me and I wrote a few times back, but nothing special. Seems like he was doing that quite often, but I highly doubt he had a scam in his mind. Most likely he's having hard times with his business and that's still giving hope he might come back.

I wish all the best to get the money recovered for DireWolfM14 and the account for theyoungmillionaire, would be a big loss.  Cry

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During the last few days, i tried sending and flooded him some messages in his telegram account but still I don't see any activity which can give us hope for the trouble he makes.

I am also getting confused if those pictures he sent to @cryptoaddictchie and from the clip video in youtube is actually him  Huh. This bothers me a lot since we've talked for a very long time and he gained my respect.

In the meantime, i think user Maus0728 will have his phone number where DireWolfM14 can contact him since they are friends friend.

No, I did not bother getting his credentials like phone number because I am comfortable talking to him in telegram as I also respect his privacy which he requested to me, but I don't think this will work this time since he broke his trust. At some point during last year December, he actually requested for a meet - up to discuss his plans for his business in our country and he wanted to seek some help but I failed to comply due to time constraint and commitment in my academic life (college).




I am not sure if this is only a show to prove that he is busy building bitcoin products business to have an excuse for getting a loan, but I think it would be very beneficial for other members to see these as well.

Here are one of the template of the product he sent.




Here is the proposed website that will serve as the online store: http://bitcoinphwetrust.com/
Note: Unfortunately, he failed to publish it online.

He is astonishing that he made a lot of effort in creating this start up business but I worry that he is expending a large sum of money that comes from multiple loans just to cover its capital which makes him financially vulnerable if his business will not make a return. I also hope that he is fine physically as well due to the ongoing pandemic.

Hope he'll make some move for the trouble he makes.

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Here is the proposed website that will serve as the online store: http://bitcoinphwetrust.com/
Note: Unfortunately, he failed to publish it online.
The domain is never registered. I just have checked it. Was he pretending to you? It seems like that. If he was serious about his business, he should have register the domain long ago.

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Good to see some more insight and it looks like he was indeed working on a project but was it really necessary to do it based on borrowing. None of these are going to help OP. There is another user few weeks ago created some mess in a local section and people were talking that he left with the money but later he came back and I guess paid his lender.

Let's hope TYM will do the same.


Here is the proposed website that will serve as the online store: http://bitcoinphwetrust.com/
Note: Unfortunately, he failed to publish it online.
The domain is never registered. I just have checked it. Was he pretending to you? It seems like that. If he was serious about his business, he should have register the domain long ago.

Just checked and it's still available.

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Also:

Iasenko could probably get his IP from his account on cryptos-currencies.com ? (Or whoever was running Cryptos-Currencies.com ?) Not sure if that's (having his IP) really going to go anywhere though.

https://www.cryptos-currencies.com/profiles/theyoungmillionaire


Sorry I haven't seen this earlier that's why you get my reply now.
I have no access to this information on the https://www.cryptos-currencies.com but the admin probably has, if this information is still relevant, you can contact lulucrypto if he can provide you with this info.

BTW I've been trough my PMs and I can tell that this guy really invested a lot of time and effort reporting spam, I don't think he will leave the forum for like 2500$ and ruin the whole reputation. Probably it's a lot of money where he lives but still, with his reputation had a chance to make this 2.5K for like 4-5 months.

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