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April 28, 2020, 10:43:30 AM
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How long do you think the crisis can last after the epidemic?
What are the most likely events to occur?
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April 28, 2020, 12:12:17 PM
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After this pandemic, we can't say that we can go back to our normal lives that easily. We still need to be careful when going outside. The government, economy, and even us, need to recover from all of this virus had brought us. Since we're in the lockdown for a long time, the economy is going down, and it needs to recover. This quarantine also gave people expenses without income (additional utility expenses), so we also need to save money and recover from that.

I'm not sure what you're pertaining to events, but businesses need to start operating and earn revenues since they've been closed for months. Everything that was postponed because of COVID, they will start functioning again. It's how we can regain the vitality of the economy.



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April 28, 2020, 01:16:20 PM
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How long do you think the crisis can last after the epidemic?
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There's so much stuff going on in the world that it's hard to tell. In my opinion it will take at least 3 full years to get the life "back to normal" and are now in "still normal" phase, and worse is yet to come I assume.

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April 28, 2020, 01:57:11 PM
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How long do you think the crisis can last after the epidemic?
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Economic Crisis is unpredictable so definitely it would be ended as early if people willing and responsible to follow the rules as a simple way to release the pain and to reducing the enhance community quarantine and besides if people taking action by rebounding this kind of real system, I guess there's no need to recall or recite whatever to our government to reproduce our daily needs to survive.

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April 28, 2020, 02:11:11 PM
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It depends on the government to see that they continue to support and help the people as they begin to get back to work and adjust back to normal life. This is what I think as the lockdown has started being relaxed.
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April 28, 2020, 02:13:36 PM
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We still need to be careful when going outside.
Frankly, I don't think any extraordinary measures are going to have to be taken for us to interact with each other like we did before the coronavirus outbreak--though I'm sure this whole situation has created a lot of new germaphobes who weren't that way to begin with.  We're going to have to keep up good hand-washing practices and not touch our faces so much and not sneeze or cough indiscriminately, but face masks and physical distancing won't be necessary (IMO....but we'll see).

It'll take a while before life starts getting back to normal, but I have confidence that it's going to happen.  Hopefully people will be able to return to the jobs they had during the shutdown, and--even more importantly--the economy won't be as damaged as many analysts predict.  That's the main thing I worry about.

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April 28, 2020, 02:29:37 PM
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Here is what I think that will happen after the pandemic crisis. As we have seen every thing crumbling down, the economy, markets, and also people.

After this pandemic:

1. Slowly, the economy needs to recover so, I guess it would not be normal right away there are things to be prioritize for the government.
2. Possibly, schools will not be opened until there is a go signal from WHO or until there will be no more cases in a month.
3. We'll start to appreciate things more unlike what we are doing before, the sports you're into, the game you play outside, and the value of life that you can't buy with money.
4. People will become aware to the environment, As we have seen the beauty of nature when we are not going outside rivers, bays, nature parks.

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April 28, 2020, 03:10:18 PM
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1- FED will continue to print "infinite money" [1] [2].
2- stocks (sp500) will continue to grow until November when we will see correction
3- Optimism will temporarily return to the markets. That will positively affect bitcoin
4- recession or even depression will last up to 2-3 years
5- stocks will stay in 2300-3000 range despite p4 due to massive helicopter money (we have never seen recession combined with unlimited QE)
6- Average investor will be close to 0% profit/loss but in the same time he will be lost 50% on purchasing power of his money.
7- Because of that during this crisis everyone will loss. No matter if you were going long or short stocks/bonds real estate...
8- After recovery from crisis in 2023 bitcoin will be worth much much more because of everyone being frustrated about current financial model

Now let's see if at least 5 points will come true. I will happily come back here in 2022 and read how stupid/bright i was.
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April 28, 2020, 03:23:36 PM
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How long do you think the crisis can last after the epidemic?
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At this time almost all countries are on the racetrack to overcome the corona pandemic as quickly as possible. If we cannot conquer corona immediately, we cannot enter the pitstop immediately. And start the race to overcome the after pandemic effect. Because after the corona circuit after this there is a new circuit that is more energy consuming, the recession circuit.

In the midst of the corona, the movement is very limited, and the difficult choices of the economy are because the dollar is strong, imports, raw materials are used up, this month many can pay employees from half of the month of trading last month. In May there is no certainty of turnover so employees pay using the owner's savings. Then if in June could not pay the salaries of employees of his choice of layoffs or bankruptcy.

China is now green. China was the first to enter the pitstop but Chinese production will not immediately run normally. Because China as an international producer and supplier country has not yet healed, because corona in various countries appears to grow alternately. So many countries do not open themselves up to the international world until they are truly green. So during 2020 every country that has won against Corona, only 50% active production in which the priority is domestic consumption. Exports or imports are very selective at all. Maybe to be safe, only the energy they import uses the rest of their domestic product substitutions.

There is a momentum of opportunity for each country to build resilience, food, economy, and focus on domestic needs. When Chinese trade was not shot. Those who depend on dollar loans, who depend on foreign debt and those who depend on imports will suffer until the corona in their country is finished and until the corona pandemic around the world is finished.

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April 28, 2020, 04:10:42 PM
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How long do you think the crisis can last after the epidemic?
What are the most likely events to occur?

it's hard to determine how long a crisis can last after an epedemic, because now all countries are more focused on resolving the epedemic corona problem soon to end. until now there has not been the best solution with the epedemic itself and a lot of draining the state budget allocated to the epedemic to overcome it.
if a large country that has large budget reserves might be able to overcome the crisis problem quickly, we see that like China they can immediately rise. but not for developing countries, it is likely that they will receive IMF assistance with new debt so that the economy can recover quickly.

During this time there is competition in all sectors, precisely with this epedemic, mutual need and mutual assistance and cooperation to be even tighter. the existing ego is removed and is willing to receive help from more experienced epedemic solving. and hopefully this will continue to have an impact on working together to restore the economy with closer trade cooperation.
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April 28, 2020, 04:36:34 PM
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We still need to be careful when going outside.
Frankly, I don't think any extraordinary measures are going to have to be taken for us to interact with each other like we did before the coronavirus outbreak--though I'm sure this whole situation has created a lot of new germaphobes who weren't that way to begin with.  We're going to have to keep up good hand-washing practices and not touch our faces so much and not sneeze or cough indiscriminately, but face masks and physical distancing won't be necessary (IMO....but we'll see).

It'll take a while before life starts getting back to normal, but I have confidence that it's going to happen.  Hopefully people will be able to return to the jobs they had during the shutdown, and--even more importantly--the economy won't be as damaged as many analysts predict.  That's the main thing I worry about.
Maybe face masks and social distancing won't be mandatory after this lockdown, but for sure most of us would still either use a face mask or will keep a distance to other people to keep themselves safe. Obviously, this virus made people be more sensitive to their environment, which I don't know if it's good or not.

Even though there is still a threat of the virus, our government is slowly trying to make things back to normal. They are planning to allow some companies to return to business so, that the economy won't crash. But it's still hard to predict since if we try to bring things back the way it used to be while there is still no vaccine available, the virus might spread again. It's still hard not to be cautious outside knowing there's no cure available yet.
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April 28, 2020, 04:47:16 PM
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How long do you think the crisis can last after the epidemic?
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I think the crisis can indeed occur, but only for developing countries, for developed countries I feel fine, try to see China,
China is finished with the Covid19 case and they are fine

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It's better to remain in a quarantined situation even after we get through this pandemic because this is just a trailer of what the actual picture could have been if lockdowns would not have been initiated already in all the countries (except for US who did it very lately). This has taught us good habits of washing hands and face whenever we go out and come back, whenever we are about to eat something, whenever we are going to touch our face and whatnot, so let's not forget all these basic things and just be very safe and let others feel safe with us too. Even after this pandemic goes, masks and sanitizers are going to be our best companion for the upcoming few months, and even maybe years. About economy, I don't think we'll be back on track till a few years.

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April 28, 2020, 06:08:57 PM
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How long do you think the crisis can last after the epidemic?
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unpredictable, the corona virus has exposed the global economy to "uncertainty and urgency" and poses a threat to recovery due to the possible impact on the global supply chain. corona virus is increasingly troubling business people, even the government's strategy to combat this pandemic has made their business continuity increasingly uncertain

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April 28, 2020, 06:36:38 PM
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How long do you think the crisis can last after the epidemic?
What are the most likely events to occur?
Almost everything will be changed after this pandemic issue, people will spend less money because they learnt the importance of saving money so most part of the world will get suffer economically due to demand and supply shock.Oil prices may increase again which let the people to move to other sources like electric cars, solar power panels.

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Frankly, I don't think any extraordinary measures are going to have to be taken for us to interact with each other like we did before the coronavirus outbreak--though I'm sure this whole situation has created a lot of new germaphobes who weren't that way to begin with.  We're going to have to keep up good hand-washing practices and not touch our faces so much and not sneeze or cough indiscriminately, but face masks and physical distancing won't be necessary (IMO....but we'll see).

i like your optimism but physical distancing is probably gonna be with us for a long time (years) since there is so little hope of herd immunity without a vaccine.

south korean government scientists believe the pandemic could be with us for 2 years. they laid out a 2-year plan outlining life under the coronavirus pandemic:
https://twitter.com/ReutersJapan/status/1254930830822121473

continued distancing, temperature checks and disinfection in public, travel quarantines, promotion of teleworking, restrictions on retail etc.

we could see face masks sticking around for a while. people in east asian countries continued wearing masks for a long time after SARS due to the fear around it.

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i like your optimism but physical distancing is probably gonna be with us for a long time (years) since there is so little hope of herd immunity without a vaccine.

south korean government scientists believe the pandemic could be with us for 2 years. they laid out a 2-year plan outlining life under the coronavirus pandemic:
https://twitter.com/ReutersJapan/status/1254930830822121473

continued distancing, temperature checks and disinfection in public, travel quarantines, promotion of teleworking, restrictions on retail etc.

we could see face masks sticking around for a while. people in east asian countries continued wearing masks for a long time after SARS due to the fear around it.

While we are talking here about the possibilities of this situation getting better, is the news true that China has lifted their lockdown already and everything has become normal there? Is it true that they have invested a few billions in international markets just to make sure that they profit a lot after this pandemic leaves the ground? I don't understand why the hell Beijing and other major places in China didn't see a single case even when the whole city of Wu-Han got affected with around 84k people (this is what their official numbers show, but the story is a lot more different) already infected (now cured)?

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April 28, 2020, 11:05:35 PM
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There are so many things to be done right after this pandemic, well, actually even now that we are already facing this crisis. Many governments most especially those in the third world countries are struggling to provide foods and necessities for their starving people that's why they decided to print more money and are borrowing money from other banks and countries. There's nothing else they can do.

I think it will take us some time to recover from this crisis, the exact time, no one knows, but it will be for sure, this pandemic will leave us mark and lessons - to be more aware of our environment, to consider health as wealth, to learn how to save money for times like this and many more.
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April 28, 2020, 11:09:43 PM
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How long do you think the crisis can last after the epidemic?
we will be in a time of crisis for a long time, the world returns to normal life after this outbreak is very impossible, our lives have really changed

the crisis after the pandemic is not important to me, the important thing is the right cure for this virus, hopefully, it can be found in the near future

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April 28, 2020, 11:13:08 PM
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No one can say for sure, I would say that the starting point for recovery will be the beginning of a broad vaccination of the world's population, and probably for 3-4 years, all countries will experience the negative effects of coronavirus.

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