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May 09, 2020, 07:42:02 AM
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     We do not know how long the crisis can last after the pandemic. Global production has stopped for a while, so the economy has suffered. The economic recovery after the pandemic also depends a lot on the potential of each country. Unfortunately, inflation has risen in most countries and many people have lost their jobs. Nothing will be the same as before, but I hope that we humans have learned something from this experience and appreciate more what we have.
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May 09, 2020, 09:33:42 AM
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it will take a long time to recover to normal conditions like before the pandemic occurred, because not only one or two countries affected by this virus, but most countries experience the effects of this pandemic so that it can destroy the economies in each country. most countries must be able to rebuild cooperation with each other after the virus is declared completely lost to grow a country's economic system so that it can create a stable economy even more can be increased again, especially in import and export cooperation

Lockdown and social distancing bring a wave of de-industrialization, de-finalization, physical disconnection, and global localization. Reduced capital due to de-industrialization, de-financialization, physical disconnection, and global localization is what we might see in the coming months. Capitalism can turn securities into valuables, corona can turn securities into the paper. The owner of capital is no more than the owner of a pile of paper in a pandemic, all his physical assets (land, factories, and other means of production) return to pure potential: the potential that cannot be actualized into wealth during a pandemic.

In addition, the business models of each industry are forced to change, namely, home production, scaled-down, on-demand distribution. Economic activities will be handled locally in a very small territorial scope. The economy will be the economy of citizens, insulated in districts or similar territorial spheres. Each country will struggle to manage their respective economies.

Multilateral cooperation in the form of multilateral cooperation should not be bilateral because bilateral cooperation is prone to hitching up the interests of certain parties. After the pandemic ends, the government will boost consumption as it did after 911, where Bush asked Americans to use credit cards to shop. In addition, the transparency program through information exchange and cooperation against tax avoidance is a global tax agenda.

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May 09, 2020, 10:02:50 AM
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     We do not know how long the crisis can last after the pandemic. Global production has stopped for a while, so the economy has suffered. The economic recovery after the pandemic also depends a lot on the potential of each country. Unfortunately, inflation has risen in most countries and many people have lost their jobs. Nothing will be the same as before, but I hope that we humans have learned something from this experience and appreciate more what we have.

Through experience, we might think in a different way, but once the days are passing, we might forget about things happening now. We should always focus on earning for feeding our family, Pandemic really testing the middle-class people because they will depend upon their daily wages, losing jobs might create more pressure on them.

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May 10, 2020, 02:29:46 PM
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Only Bitcoin and Apple is up today. Smiley

bitcoin pumped hard today on news that hedge fund giant paul tudor jones is long bitcoin as a hedge against fiat inflation: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-07/paul-tudor-jones-buys-bitcoin-says-he-s-reminded-of-gold-in-70s

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“It has happened globally with such speed that even a market veteran like myself was left speechless,” Jones, 65, wrote. “We are witnessing the Great Monetary Inflation -- an unprecedented expansion of every form of money unlike anything the developed world has ever seen.”

The question for a macro investor like Jones was how to hedge. He said he considered various bets on gold, Treasuries, certain types of stocks, currencies and commodities before recognizing a “growing role for Bitcoin.”

i've been amazed at bitcoin's resilience during these turbulent times. now we know that growing institutional interest is one of the explanations for its strong performance recently.

Pity we can't say today that Bitcoin is still rising. Bitcoin almost hit $10k this time, but I think lots of sell orders in the range "$9,950 - $9,990" were waiting for their turn. Too bad they didn't cancel them after that Bloomberg article. Smiley

As for the pandemic situation, I can't help but think that things are starting to improve:



and the market reacts accordingly:



Ah yeah, gold! But who needs gold when everything is going to be okay? Smiley

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May 10, 2020, 02:55:13 PM
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How long do you think the crisis can last after the epidemic?
What are the most likely events to occur?
In my opinion I guess these crisis too much affects  as a whole.People must adapt the new normal situation where we will be more descipline as a human beings.Our economy have gone down and it takes too much time to restore it..and in that moment we need strong leaders and more vigilant and responsible person to put some things back together.
Just my opinion.

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May 10, 2020, 03:30:32 PM
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Today there are a lot of things happened to our world when the pandemic outbreak starts to spreading first it hits a lot of people and get died about this, next there are a lot of transactions getting canceled because they don't want to spread the rapidly because it can be attached now into those items and foods delivered because of that there are a lot of stores and countries limited their stocks because the government is getting more strictly to the lockdown. There are a lot of heroes spending their lives just to save another life it is better to follow the rules when the pandemic becomes end there are a lot of things need to recover especially the whole market just to increase the GDP of the different country but still, we are looking forward on it, still, there is some good news and not all the bad news came because there are a lot of people getting recovered rapidly which is a good sign for hope to have a good future and the pandemic becomes end immediately.

How long do you think the crisis can last after the epidemic?
What are the most likely events to occur?
In my opinion I guess these crisis too much affects  as a whole.People must adapt the new normal situation where we will be more descipline as a human beings.Our economy have gone down and it takes too much time to restore it..and in that moment we need strong leaders and more vigilant and responsible person to put some things back together.
Just my opinion.

We cannot blame others because they need to have supplies too and some of them does not capability to bought it because some of the products affected by the inflation but still always take care to them and avoid them immediately.

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May 10, 2020, 03:56:23 PM
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If seen from the current developments after the pandemic, the most important thing that happened is the economic crisis, it might be fully recovered, unlike now, When viewed from the background. The world economy is currently deteriorating during the pandemic. The trigger is a porous business place, in a place of entertainment is not normal and a decline in currency exchange rates. people can't travel on vacation, credit, bad banking, swollen state debt this has a direct impact during the corona virus pandemic (Covid-19), is not normal.

Maybe after the end of the pandemic all sectors, for example the lower and upper businesses will be normal to grow the world economy agai.
All this will be triggered by the recovery of the global economy due to the end of the pandemic.

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May 10, 2020, 04:49:48 PM
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If seen from the current developments after the pandemic, the most important thing that happened is the economic crisis, it might be fully recovered, unlike now, When viewed from the background. The world economy is currently deteriorating during the pandemic. The trigger is a porous business place, in a place of entertainment is not normal and a decline in currency exchange rates. people can't travel on vacation, credit, bad banking, swollen state debt this has a direct impact during the corona virus pandemic (Covid-19), is not normal.

Maybe after the end of the pandemic all sectors, for example the lower and upper businesses will be normal to grow the world economy agai.
All this will be triggered by the recovery of the global economy due to the end of the pandemic.
True, if we can get past this pandemic, this crisis will slowly disappear and where office, industry, and token sales will be reopened and take advantage of the opportunities that exist after the disappearance of this pandemic.
Freezing occurs where business is not running normally anymore. Many people are currently unemployed, meaning there are no other jobs because of the lockdown that is in effect now and of course the country's economy will be in a crisis where their income is reduced due to lack of activity.

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May 10, 2020, 06:13:15 PM
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How long do you think the crisis can last after the epidemic?
What are the most likely events to occur?
In my opinion I guess these crisis too much affects  as a whole.People must adapt the new normal situation where we will be more descipline as a human beings.Our economy have gone down and it takes too much time to restore it..and in that moment we need strong leaders and more vigilant and responsible person to put some things back together.
Just my opinion.
this certainly affects all aspects of the state and life, in the case of the corona pandemic. it has been seen socially that almost all are affected by the economic downturn that is caused. However, I think the occurrence of the impact of this plague has led to a revolution that will be good again in the lives of people and the country

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May 12, 2020, 03:25:06 PM
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i think for develop country like japan etc , 3-5 month will recover everything , but for developed country will need more time like 8-12 month to fully recover ,
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May 12, 2020, 07:37:38 PM
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All we have now is guessing, and that's what governments and banks are doing, they are guessing what will happen and how! Truth is that countries are recording the highest rate of unemployment! Statistic is a bitch, and that's all we hear these days, some statistics from some experts, in the same time while some people don't worry about a thing, some people are struggling to survive a day, along with their families!
It's not like we didn't have crisis before, it's not like some people live in crisis entire lives, what will happen this time is same old, jazz between rich and poor will be bigger!

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As for the pandemic situation, I can't help but think that things are starting to improve:


Let's see what happens several weeks after the lockdowns are relaxed or lifted. It won't be clear for some time whether that chart shows an actual peak, or just a temporary plateau. New case spikes in South Korea, Wuhan, and Germany are beginning to create fears about the possibility of a second wave after reopening. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/11/asia/china-south-korea-coronavirus-reopening-intl-hnk/index.html

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The German federal government and the states had agreed on a snap-back mechanism in case the virus returns. If any county exceeds 50 new coronavirus infections per 100,000 inhabitants, lockdown measures will be reintroduced in that county. Over the weekend, several counties across the country exceeded that limit.

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May 12, 2020, 11:09:39 PM
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I think that about 3 years will definitely be very hard. It is necessary to create a vaccine against coronavirus (only the end of this year). Then there will be a process of economic recovery, the creation of new jobs, new companies. In general, 3 years, and this is the most favorable scenario.

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May 13, 2020, 03:39:51 AM
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I think it will become a global economic crisis, like economic crisis in 2008. The currency depreciated, so did the staple. High unemployment rate as well as a lot of companies and corporations went bankrupt, resulting in a serious drop of securities and stocks.

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May 13, 2020, 04:21:15 AM
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     We do not know how long the crisis can last after the pandemic. Global production has stopped for a while, so the economy has suffered. The economic recovery after the pandemic also depends a lot on the potential of each country. Unfortunately, inflation has risen in most countries and many people have lost their jobs. Nothing will be the same as before, but I hope that we humans have learned something from this experience and appreciate more what we have.
Everything is given since this Pandemic effect will run for years and that is what we can be sure now,i think we can at
 least help the government to faster recovery by nit relying on them about the help instead stand on our own,start planning
 how we can survive while the healing is on going,this is not the same as the past crisis because many says this is almost
 same effect like what "World War" gives so let us make our plans and make it happen for our country and for our family
of course.

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The crisis will get worse after the epidemic This crisis will not end so soon Unemployment will increase as the economy is disrupted If all goes well then people will be able to go back to their working life. But even if it ends, it's not going to end completely so it's going to take two or three years to fix it. But this epidemic is more terrible than other crises The whole world was not affected by the economic crisis of 2008 It was confined to a specific country and did not last long It had medical procedures but there is no vaccine for this disease.
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     We do not know how long the crisis can last after the pandemic. Global production has stopped for a while, so the economy has suffered. The economic recovery after the pandemic also depends a lot on the potential of each country. Unfortunately, inflation has risen in most countries and many people have lost their jobs. Nothing will be the same as before, but I hope that we humans have learned something from this experience and appreciate more what we have.
Everything is given since this Pandemic effect will run for years and that is what we can be sure now,i think we can at
 least help the government to faster recovery by nit relying on them about the help instead stand on our own,start planning
 how we can survive while the healing is on going,this is not the same as the past crisis because many says this is almost
 same effect like what "World War" gives so let us make our plans and make it happen for our country and for our family
of course.
We cannot go back to the normal life that we have before, after this crisis there will be a new normal where we can now see discipline and respect in our society. We should learn from this crisis, I am sure that there will be a new habit that will formed after this current recession. There are now many lives are on the line because of the virus, I am sure that most of the governments all over the world will improve their health care system because of what happened.

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May 13, 2020, 07:52:30 AM
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The crisis will get worse after the epidemic This crisis will not end so soon Unemployment will increase as the economy is disrupted If all goes well then people will be able to go back to their working life. But even if it ends, it's not going to end completely so it's going to take two or three years to fix it. But this epidemic is more terrible than other crises The whole world was not affected by the economic crisis of 2008 It was confined to a specific country and did not last long It had medical procedures but there is no vaccine for this disease.
This pandemic is hard to end without the discovery of drugs and vaccines. because so far all countries have only reduced contact from illness to the healthy, not to cure the pandemic. almost all countries are not ready to accept the fact that this pandemic can worsen the economy, because many companies have to close. true colleague said above that many new unemployment occurs in almost all countries because of this pandemic, so the state must help fundraising so as not to worsen the security situation. because the danger of hunger can arise because of the inability of citizens to be able to provide for their daily lives, due to not having money to spend.

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     We do not know how long the crisis can last after the pandemic. Global production has stopped for a while, so the economy has suffered. The economic recovery after the pandemic also depends a lot on the potential of each country. Unfortunately, inflation has risen in most countries and many people have lost their jobs. Nothing will be the same as before, but I hope that we humans have learned something from this experience and appreciate more what we have.
Everything is given since this Pandemic effect will run for years and that is what we can be sure now,i think we can at
 least help the government to faster recovery by nit relying on them about the help instead stand on our own,start planning
 how we can survive while the healing is on going,this is not the same as the past crisis because many says this is almost
 same effect like what "World War" gives so let us make our plans and make it happen for our country and for our family
of course.
We cannot go back to the normal life that we have before, after this crisis there will be a new normal where we can now see discipline and respect in our society. We should learn from this crisis, I am sure that there will be a new habit that will formed after this current recession. There are now many lives are on the line because of the virus, I am sure that most of the governments all over the world will improve their health care system because of what happened.
We definitely can, these economic recession happens quite frequently like once a decade and the economic crisis that we face right now due to pandemic might be a tough one to solve but we could definitely go back to normal, not to mention once the vaccine test phase finished people will immediately start their long awaited activitiy all over again and rebuilding things.

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May 14, 2020, 07:24:55 PM
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I've just read these words from the WHO and it made me feel sad.

As new clusters emerge, WHO warns virus may be here to stay

A lot of us were affected, our families, jobs, businesses, living and many other important things to survive. But, we have to remain strong and firm and we shouldn't let ourselves feel that there's no hope. It's ok to be sad but we will survive.

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