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September 22, 2021, 01:16:51 PM
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I think it all depends on people choices. Different people have the one that works for them. Employed or busy people would mostly prefer the chance-based game than the Skill-based. Prolly because they won’t be able to draft out time to learn the basis of skill-based games, how it works and maybe the new updates on that type of skill-based games. So they will always prefer the Chance-based games. Because in Chance -based games, your decision making prowess may only determine the outcome of the Bet but I don’t think it will determine whether you will win or lose. The part of you winning or losing is based on chance and it’s done by the machine. But I think Skill-based is better but if you can master the skills and techniques used in winning games, the you will surely have more win percent.

I agree that it all depends on people's choices but time is not a problem there. I don't see any connection that busy people will mostly prefer chance-based games. What's the advantage?

The choice will depend on how far that person is knowledgeable in a specific type of game whether it's luck-based or skill-based. Even how busy people are if they know how to play that specific skill-based game, they will choose to play on it. Or if some time that they don't feel playing at those, then they will switch to luck-based games.

The advantage is "relaxin your brain" with playing some lucky-based game and not thinking too much... after a long busy day! It's like that in my case, and in that time it's more likely I will choose to spin some slot, or play dices... usually, I will select a lower bet and just spin it, as I mentioned, without thinking too much, without forcing too much, just brain relaxation! When I have more free time I tend to play more seriously, I have fun with changing bets from lower to higher while chasing some big payouts!
Exactly my point. Normally every Gambler should have a knowledge about what type of betting he want to involve in, so there is no doubt that he or she is not grounded in betting. Since the outcome of a bet depends solely on the program setup and not on your selected mode. Chance-base is more preferable for busy people.  You will have time to attend to other things and just put little time on the gambling. Less stress and enough rest of mind. There would not be any be any stress trying to go through any manuals or practicing any form of gambling page in chanced-based gambling when you are a very busy person. You will just go to the bet and allow the chancing play for you.

I wanted to answer on question from "goinmerry"! And yes it's a point, you need to know about the game if you wish to play it, and for some games like poker, you need time as well! You can't think about playing a tournament if you don't have +2-3 hours free minimum! And it's for some ordinary tournaments without re-buys, add-ons, late registrations, in that case with all that tournaments can last a lot longer! One more thing is important, you are tied for the specific time of the game... it's not when you want to play it, it's when it's a designated time for that game you want to play...
While a few dice throws, or with slots few spins are fast, you can't play at any time, from anywhere... and you don't need to be too focused if you play with lower bets without big risks, it's just fun to steal some time or to move your mind from something!

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September 22, 2021, 03:26:32 PM
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As we are now under community quarantine because of this pandemic virus, we tend to play online games to lessen the boredom we feel at our home, so I wanna know your preference on choosing what gamble to play.

There are two types of gambling for me, the skill-based and the chance-based.
1. Skill-based - these are gambling that requires our skills and techniques for us to win, such as playing poker, betting on races, and playing blackjack but the odds of winning are still different for people and it is always in favor of the owner of the gambling.
Poker
Blackjack
Pai Gow
Texas Shootout
Horse Race Betting
Sports Betting
2. Chance-based - these are gambling that you will only wait for the result, you don't need to do something or to think so deep for you to win because all of you have an equal chance of winning such as roulette, lottery, and other gaming machines.
Casino games:

Slot machines
Progressive bonuses
Bingo
Roulette
Sic Bo
Baccarat

Lottery products:
50/50 raffles
Pull-tabs
Scratch’n win tickets
6/49
BC/49
Lotto Max
Keno
Pacific Hold’em
Source: https://www.bcresponsiblegambling.ca/understanding-gambling/types-gambling

For me, I will choose the skill-based gambling because I am not hoping for the luck of life, I want to take action to make my life great. It is still better to think logically and analytically at any time.

But if you are only a beginner, I think the chance-based gambling would be suitable for you, but do not stick only on that, you should improve yourself, acquire skills and knowledge through experience so you will be able to play skill-based gambling soon.

Once you get enter into any gambling platform in online like this, whatever you stated here dude, for the bankroll owner of the gambling site there is no fair game play to each players to their platform whatever category of games it is. You just enumerate in which category is good to play for the players.
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September 22, 2021, 04:00:05 PM
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You can say that. But I still believe the beginners are lucky because many people who do not know about gambling can win the game without a problem and stop gambling with their money or product. But if they repeat it in the next days, that will not be their luck anymore because luck will move to the other people. Some people feel that this day, they can win based on their mood, but the fact is they will not win easily and even some of them are losing their money. Maybe you already heard about that Grin

It's a myth and there's no data to back it up that if you are a newbie you will likely win, we are all in equal chances once we are in front of the dashboard, yes there's such a thing as beginner's luck, but you never know when it will strike on one beginner, it's not the rule it never the rule, I don't want to invite newbie to gamble and deposit more than they can because of his of chances as a beginner is good. 
While it is true that newbies can experiment good luck during their first few sessions at the same time you are right on the sense that no one can really know when this is going to happen, after all that is what luck is about, it is completely unpredictable, however it is also known that there are discrepancies on the short term when it comes to the actual results you get versus the probabilities to win, however if the person keeps gambling then it becomes inevitable that the probabilities and your actual results eventually match each other.
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September 22, 2021, 04:04:39 PM
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Sometimes, a beginner can have better luck than a regular gambler as they do not think about the game and only play based on their feelings.
Luck doesn't determine by your status as a newbie or experienced gambler. It is something unpredictable, it can happen to anyone, whether a newcomer or an experienced player. That's why we call it a "luck-based game", it doesn't require experience or certain knowledge to win it. If we can win it with certain tricks, we must call it a "skill-based game". For me, luck didn't always relate to feeling, if we are unlucky, our feeling cannot work well.  Cheesy
You can say that. But I still believe the beginners are lucky because many people who do not know about gambling can win the game without a problem and stop gambling with their money or product. But if they repeat it in the next days, that will not be their luck anymore because luck will move to the other people. Some people feel that this day, they can win based on their mood, but the fact is they will not win easily and even some of them are losing their money. Maybe you already heard about that Grin
there is what we called beginners luck and you believe on that didnt you ? obviously .
 i think your right with it because before when im new to gambling , i can win easily but later on i notice that winning is now getting harder  .  sometimes i think that the early wins are a bait for us to continue playing but some people will not try again after they win because they are scared to loose it . thats the mindset if your not a true gambler .
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September 22, 2021, 05:02:54 PM
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A better example is sports betting.

There's those luck based that you've mentioned such as dice and as well as roulette too. Poker is a combination of luck and skill? I think it's still mainly all about skills.
Nope, I don't think so, I think it's a combination of both even if it's mainly skill, I mean if you're against a player who's equally as good as you, you won't be relying on just skills because you're needing those probability in the cards to favor you.

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September 22, 2021, 05:12:16 PM
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Skill may be required for few cards game etc. But have seen many getting it by luck, at times some are betting say 1000x multiplier and results is 970x etc so close yet so far. If had a good luck could have made that cross 1000x under such circumstances skill is not much needed.

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September 22, 2021, 08:20:29 PM
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Skill may be required for few cards game etc. But have seen many getting it by luck, at times some are betting say 1000x multiplier and results is 970x etc so close yet so far. If had a good luck could have made that cross 1000x under such circumstances skill is not much needed.

most games that we bet on need skills for the gambler to really have a good result and also, luck is another factor that can help in winning more than what we had imagine or could think. Luck had helped many gamblers to wi bets and at the same time they might lose it back if the fund is used to bet again making then lose on a bigger scale. Gambling is luck most times, and I know there is one or two time we had win bets with having any skill.

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September 22, 2021, 08:37:34 PM
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Skill may be required for few cards game etc. But have seen many getting it by luck, at times some are betting say 1000x multiplier and results is 970x etc so close yet so far. If had a good luck could have made that cross 1000x under such circumstances skill is not much needed.

most games that we bet on need skills for the gambler to really have a good result and also, luck is another factor that can help in winning more than what we had imagine or could think. Luck had helped many gamblers to wi bets and at the same time they might lose it back if the fund is used to bet again making then lose on a bigger scale. Gambling is luck most times, and I know there is one or two time we had win bets with having any skill.
Excluding into those games which doesnt really need any skills like dice and roulettes on where you would really be needing for you to just simply roll the dice and wont do anything at all.
This is actually depending on someones  preference because not all is really really that interested when it comes to strategic kind of games.There are lots of games to choose from whether
you do feel to play that game or not on that particular games we do have our choice so this one would really be depending at all.

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September 22, 2021, 09:23:41 PM
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A better example is sports betting.

There's those luck based that you've mentioned such as dice and as well as roulette too. Poker is a combination of luck and skill? I think it's still mainly all about skills.
Nope, I don't think so, I think it's a combination of both even if it's mainly skill, I mean if you're against a player who's equally as good as you, you won't be relying on just skills because you're needing those probability in the cards to favor you.
Okay then so be it if that's what you think.

It already came from you if you're against with someone who's also good as you then whoever is better gets the win even there's the probability with the cards since both of you are also in the same shoe.



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September 22, 2021, 10:10:56 PM
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You should also add video poker to the skill based category.

I personally prefer chance based simply because I'm not expecting to profit whenever I bet.

If you are seriously wanting to make money out of gambling then you shouldn't even bat an eye on something like Slots, that has historically killed the bankrolls of many skilled players.

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September 22, 2021, 11:17:51 PM
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I know it, some beginners can have a bigger chance to win, but surely not all beginners. This cannot determine if beginners mostly have better luck, no research or data can explain it clearly. In my gambling history, I didn't think my luck was better once I was a beginner. I think there is no significant difference, what I feel is much better after I have more experience. Although winning luck-based games cannot rely on experience, having experience will be very helpful. At least, I know which one is better to choose, or a suitable game to play for me.


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I know it, some beginners can have a bigger chance to win, but surely not all beginners. This cannot determine if beginners mostly have better luck, no research or data can explain it clearly. In my gambling history, I didn't think my luck was better once I was a beginner. I think there is no significant difference, what I feel is much better after I have more experience. Although winning luck-based games cannot rely on experience, having experience will be very helpful. At least, I know which one is better to choose, or a suitable game to play for me.

Maybe others are sticking with the idea of beginner's luck.

There's no Science or technical explanation regarding that, as expected, but sometimes it's effective. Been experienced that lots of times. That makes me think that in online casinos, some are program to make new accounts have a better RTP to experience a good payout. It's to give experience for those new gamblers as winning on early days of betting will result in long-run gambling.

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Once you get enter into any gambling platform in online like this, whatever you stated here dude, for the bankroll owner of the gambling site there is no fair game play to each players to their platform whatever category of games it is. You just enumerate in which category is good to play for the players.
What do you mean by fair gameplay? If there were 50% chance winning chance splitted between players and casinos the gambling industry wouldn't exist anymore, because it wouldn't be sustainable. Games have to be profitable for the house owners, so they can maintain their activities, pay for their operational costs and make a living from it to keep offering this service to gamblers.
Actually, regardless skill or chance based games, both categories are profitable only for a small percentage of gamblers, for the reason mentioned above. While luck based games give equally winning chances for every players, skill based games give more chances only for the hardcore professional ones.

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How's blackjack considered "Skill based" ? are you referring to cards counting or

Blackjack is purely based on luck all the methodes and techniques you may have seen online are complete BS,They are at the same level as the various "strategies" people use when playing the 50/50 dice game.
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How's blackjack considered "Skill based" ? are you referring to cards counting or

Blackjack is purely based on luck all the methodes and techniques you may have seen online are complete BS,They are at the same level as the various "strategies" people use when playing the 50/50 dice game.

At least there is skill involved in blackjack game related to the cards you get in each round of the game. You need to decide what to do with the cards dealt for you, whether you are going to hit, split, double or stand. Some gambler use skills to decide but I guess there are some other gamblers who play it with their own instinct only.

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September 23, 2021, 04:19:25 AM
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It's a myth and there's no data to back it up that if you are a newbie you will likely win, we are all in equal chances once we are in front of the dashboard, yes there's such a thing as beginner's luck, but you never know when it will strike on one beginner, it's not the rule it never the rule, I don't want to invite newbie to gamble and deposit more than they can because of his of chances as a beginner is good. 
I do not want to invite newbies either because I do not think that they can control themselves. Although there is no accurate data to know how many the beginner's luck can get, that is happening out there and we do not know how many of them will get their first winning. I think that first winning is to get them back to the casino to play the other gambling games.

there is what we called beginners luck and you believe on that didnt you ? obviously .
 i think your right with it because before when im new to gambling , i can win easily but later on i notice that winning is now getting harder  .  sometimes i think that the early wins are a bait for us to continue playing but some people will not try again after they win because they are scared to loose it . thats the mindset if your not a true gambler .
One person admitted that you could win easily for the first time, but it will become harder in the next game, and finally, we lose. But that does not stop us from gambling as we can feel curious why our luck does not help us win. That happens for some people in their first experience of gambling.

I know it, some beginners can have a bigger chance to win, but surely not all beginners. This cannot determine if beginners mostly have better luck, no research or data can explain it clearly. In my gambling history, I didn't think my luck was better once I was a beginner. I think there is no significant difference, what I feel is much better after I have more experience. Although winning luck-based games cannot rely on experience, having experience will be very helpful. At least, I know which one is better to choose, or a suitable game to play for me.
Yes, it is not all beginners. Luck will only select the right person to win and feel that. Having experience could help you to win. At least, you will know when you stop gambling and leave the games. You can control yourself from the next losses and that will only work if you always remember that gambling is not just making money but gambling can make you lose much money.



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September 23, 2021, 05:59:54 AM
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It's a myth and there's no data to back it up that if you are a newbie you will likely win, we are all in equal chances once we are in front of the dashboard, yes there's such a thing as beginner's luck, but you never know when it will strike on one beginner, it's not the rule it never the rule, I don't want to invite newbie to gamble and deposit more than they can because of his of chances as a beginner is good. 
I do not want to invite newbies either because I do not think that they can control themselves. Although there is no accurate data to know how many the beginner's luck can get, that is happening out there and we do not know how many of them will get their first winning. I think that first winning is to get them back to the casino to play the other gambling games.

there is what we called beginners luck and you believe on that didnt you ? obviously .
 i think your right with it because before when im new to gambling , i can win easily but later on i notice that winning is now getting harder  .  sometimes i think that the early wins are a bait for us to continue playing but some people will not try again after they win because they are scared to loose it . thats the mindset if your not a true gambler .
One person admitted that you could win easily for the first time, but it will become harder in the next game, and finally, we lose. But that does not stop us from gambling as we can feel curious why our luck does not help us win. That happens for some people in their first experience of gambling.

I know it, some beginners can have a bigger chance to win, but surely not all beginners. This cannot determine if beginners mostly have better luck, no research or data can explain it clearly. In my gambling history, I didn't think my luck was better once I was a beginner. I think there is no significant difference, what I feel is much better after I have more experience. Although winning luck-based games cannot rely on experience, having experience will be very helpful. At least, I know which one is better to choose, or a suitable game to play for me.
Yes, it is not all beginners. Luck will only select the right person to win and feel that. Having experience could help you to win. At least, you will know when you stop gambling and leave the games. You can control yourself from the next losses and that will only work if you always remember that gambling is not just making money but gambling can make you lose much money.

The goal is to win so even if you don't invite newbies, casinos will invest these newbies are their goal as well to multiply their customers. they will come and gamble whether skill base or chance-based casino games. Most newbies though will just go for the games like lottery and dice.

I have not played a live video poker casino actually and I'm not sure if I could trust this sort of a system. Behind what I could see from the camera is what I worry about here. It's the skills of the house that's scarier than the luck base games.


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September 23, 2021, 06:20:16 AM
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How's blackjack considered "Skill based" ? are you referring to cards counting or

Blackjack is purely based on luck all the methodes and techniques you may have seen online are complete BS,They are at the same level as the various "strategies" people use when playing the 50/50 dice game.

At least there is skill involved in blackjack game related to the cards you get in each round of the game. You need to decide what to do with the cards dealt for you, whether you are going to hit, split, double or stand. Some gambler use skills to decide but I guess there are some other gamblers who play it with their own instinct only.
We can't just rely only on lucks when it comes to card games but also it requires knowledge and skills as well. Maybe if we are in the lottery, that really it only needs luck in order to win but the rest will need both.
As a gambler, I choose those games that I already know, this was the advantage we have and our chances of winning are a little bit high than those who have less/nothing.
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September 23, 2021, 12:45:47 PM
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How's blackjack considered "Skill based" ? are you referring to cards counting or

Blackjack is purely based on luck all the methodes and techniques you may have seen online are complete BS,They are at the same level as the various "strategies" people use when playing the 50/50 dice game.

At least there is skill involved in blackjack game related to the cards you get in each round of the game. You need to decide what to do with the cards dealt for you, whether you are going to hit, split, double or stand. Some gambler use skills to decide but I guess there are some other gamblers who play it with their own instinct only.
We can't just rely only on lucks when it comes to card games but also it requires knowledge and skills as well. Maybe if we are in the lottery, that really it only needs luck in order to win but the rest will need both.
As a gambler, I choose those games that I already know, this was the advantage we have and our chances of winning are a little bit high than those who have less/nothing.

putting all card games on the same basket would be a mistake
games like poker are way more skill based and have a luck component included but it's not the only thing, like other games that are way more based on luck

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September 23, 2021, 01:28:21 PM
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We can't just rely only on lucks when it comes to card games but also it requires knowledge and skills as well. Maybe if we are in the lottery, that really it only needs luck in order to win but the rest will need both.
As a gambler, I choose those games that I already know, this was the advantage we have and our chances of winning are a little bit high than those who have less/nothing.

For relaxation, I prefer games of chance. Games that require skill have a significant drawback - it is very difficult to relax while playing them. The more money at stake, the higher the likelihood that you are playing with the most skilled opponent who treats this activity as making money, I do not want such stress when I need to rest.

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