GAMBLING: Skill-based vs. Chance-based

[Fredomago]

For me all gambling games were all risky whether it's skill-based or chance-based, the difference between skill-based and chance-based is you will not see the win probability in skill-based and in chance-based you can see but both are just the same but I think sports betting is much popular but very prone to fix games or cheating.

Gambling is already a risk game because it's a high-risk reward some people want to play with the chance game because the odds is so low but the profit or the reward is so high some of them chilling just pull the lever or click the button and wait for their profit, some people use their talent and skills to use in a skill base game like the table top games, even in e-sports and sports betting all you need is to identify the skill base of the player and the team itself and easy to predict the match winners.

There are people who understand well and they find ways to take advantage, gamblers who knows how to deal with types of games they are playing mostly earn good compensation, those who can handle the risk inside gambling are also capable of winning good amount of money. The business itself, either skills or luck based, both are gambling, which probably shit may affect the results.

The good thing with people who play with skill based games, they have knowledge that they can use to have a good edge over their opponents and with good practice and control they'll end up winning, not always but the chance is better.

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[kawetsriyanto]

there are even some people who think that playing gambling is an instant way to get rich. So it's not surprising that many people end up addicted

Yep. Those who think in that way, have a bigger chance of being addicts. They may be inspired by good stories from successful gamblers, sadly they think all people can do it. We cannot blame those who want to be rich through gambling, that's a human right. But only dreaming it without knowing the chance and the risks are absolutely a bad attitude. At the end of the day, those are very possible to be addicts as you said (if they don't change their mindset).

I don't understand. We gamble because we are expecting something in return. Therefore, we are chasing profits.

Don't you think "fun" is a kind of return? I assume return isn't only about money. As it is a game, some people may think that entertainment is also another big thing to expect. So, not only consider the "return" from the number of money got from the gambling games.

You are not wrong because I know that what you are describing is a fact of gambling and gamblers.

Yes. Definitely, mate.

[johhnyUA]

there are even some people who think that playing gambling is an instant way to get rich. So it's not surprising that many people end up addicted

Yep. Those who think in that way, have a bigger chance of being addicts. They may be inspired by good stories from successful gamblers, sadly they think all people can do it. We cannot blame those who want to be rich through gambling, that's a human right. But only dreaming it without knowing the chance and the risks are absolutely a bad attitude. At the end of the day, those are very possible to be addicts as you said (if they don't change their mindset).

Sorry to interrupt your conversation, but i can't agree with a first statement. To get on gambling addict it's need to be a specific kind of person. And this doesn't matter what do you think about winning or loosing on gambling. Because gambling is more about thrilling and entertaining than just getting money.

[kawetsriyanto]

Sorry to interrupt your conversation, but i can't agree with a first statement. To get on gambling addict it's need to be a specific kind of person.

No problem, everyone can have their own point of view.
Anyway, can you make it clearer, on what statement do you disagree? Do you refer to this statement "Those who think in that way, have a bigger chance of being addicts"? I explain it a bit more, you need to notice this word "bigger chance", which means not 100% of them to be addicts. But that mindset creates a bigger possibility to lead them to be addicts. I know there are many other factors such as the wrong habit, using unlimited funds, and etc. However, people who dream of being rich instantly in gambling, possibly playing excessively. IMO

[harizen]

but I think sports betting is much popular but very prone to fix games or cheating.

It's like politics where there is corruption, in sports, there is also a flaw.

Being prone to the issue of fix games or cheating is not new and it should be expected. Is it risky to bet on sports now that it's prone to game-fixing? Definitely no.

As a sports enthusiast for decades, I can conclude that some issues on fixed games are just having a small percentage compare to all games that were done in a good, smooth, and fair gameplay. If you think a rigged game is possible on that certain event (although there are no direct sources we can rely on if that game will be rigged, obviously), then just ignore betting on it.

[DoublerHunter]

but I think sports betting is much popular but very prone to fix games or cheating.

It's like politics where there is corruption, in sports, there is also a flaw.

Being prone to the issue of fix games or cheating is not new and it should be expected. Is it risky to bet on sports now that it's prone to game-fixing? Definitely no.

^ Probably it could be and there are big politicians who also manipulating the fixed games.
I remember there is someone who asked why in gambling, they called it a gambling industry, why it is an industry?
So they think it is a business meanwhile we think it is a game that is sponsored by someone.
Nevertheless, it is part of a corruption I think, and they are making money on it by fixing the game. We hope that this will not have a negative impact on game sports that causes a bad reputation.

[Rengga Jati]

For me all gambling games were all risky whether it's skill-based or chance-based

Both skill-based and chance-based are risky, none of them really has no risks. All gambling games can make us lose all our money and may lead us to be addicted. It depends on how we deal with those games, choosing the right ways to play that gambling games. As long as using a proper way, I think we can be quite safe.

I think sports betting is much popular but very prone to fix games or cheating.

Yes, sports betting is one of the most favorites. Cheating? Do you think we can win sports betting by cheating? I don't know if there is a way to guarantee winning it. I assume it is a fair game, no way for cheating.

[XCANA]

For me all gambling games were all risky whether it's skill-based or chance-based, the difference between skill-based and chance-based is you will not see the win probability in skill-based and in chance-based you can see but both are just the same but I think sports betting is much popular but very prone to fix games or cheating.

Op didn't in any way of his submission talk about risk or not risk in his submission and I wonder why the main point of your response here center on how both the chance based is risky and the skill-based is risky for we all that gambling generally is risky. You should know that nothing in general is free of risk and is out that risky situation that do making a living and not taking risk is the most risky decision.

[Bitinity]

there are even some people who think that playing gambling is an instant way to get rich. So it's not surprising that many people end up addicted

Yep. Those who think in that way, have a bigger chance of being addicts. They may be inspired by good stories from successful gamblers, sadly they think all people can do it. We cannot blame those who want to be rich through gambling, that's a human right. But only dreaming it without knowing the chance and the risks are absolutely a bad attitude. At the end of the day, those are very possible to be addicts as you said (if they don't change their mindset).

Sorry to interrupt your conversation, but i can't agree with a first statement. To get on gambling addict it's need to be a specific kind of person. And this doesn't matter what do you think about winning or loosing on gambling. Because gambling is more about thrilling and entertaining than just getting money.

I do believe 90% or even more gamblers do gambling for the sake of quick money, not for the thrill and entertainment. Addiction does not look who you are, anyone can be addicted to gambling even if you take it as entertainment only and I have to agree that those who use gambling as a way make money has higher chance to be addicted.

[swogerino]

For me all gambling games were all risky whether it's skill-based or chance-based, the difference between skill-based and chance-based is you will not see the win probability in skill-based and in chance-based you can see but both are just the same but I think sports betting is much popular but very prone to fix games or cheating.

Op didn't in any way of his submission talk about risk or not risk in his submission and I wonder why the main point of your response here center on how both the chance based is risky and the skill-based is risky for we all that gambling generally is risky. You should know that nothing in general is free of risk and is out that risky situation that do making a living and not taking risk is the most risky decision.

There is that old joke about gambling to just illustrate this.There was a king and had a son who started drinking alcohol and the people near the king told him about his son,the king said no problem.The son then started going with women,prostitutes and the king also said there is no problem.When the son started to gamble the king said,stop him immediately as he is going to destroy us all.

This joke illustrates perfectly that gambling does not look at who you are and most people who do not have a great self control can easily fall under addiction from gambling.

[agustina2]

I do believe 90% or even more gamblers do gambling for the sake of quick money, not for the thrill and entertainment.

I agree with you. These people saying gambling should only be for fun might be actually always in regrets and disappointment every time they lose. Or maybe they are just saying it but don't actually have the experience gambling and just posting here for the sake of, you know it that's why they don't know the feeling of being a gambler, being a casual or not.

Even rich people are gambling not just for entertainment but also want to win. How more for average gamblers here?

[Theones]

Haha that's quite funny "Knowing the fact and still ending up in loss"

Casinos actually don't benefit from house edge as much they do from human greed for more.

That's probably because "Even when you’re losing while you’re gambling, your body is still producing adrenalin and endorphins – Mark Griffiths, Nottingham Trent University"

I did not play much in the casino and I cannot say that I experienced any special emotions winning/losing (the amounts were small), but for example, when I place bets on sports competitions, even with the minimum bet, when watching this competition, my emotions sometimes go off scale, so yes favorite drink is good way to relax.

You are doing good since you are betting a very small amount and that's very much bearable. I try to bet small amount but the environment at casino turn me on and at times I bet high but still I am fortunate enough to have money to buy a drink that helps in overcoming the grief of loss.

[michellee]

I did not play much in the casino and I cannot say that I experienced any special emotions winning/losing (the amounts were small), but for example, when I place bets on sports competitions, even with the minimum bet, when watching this competition, my emotions sometimes go off scale, so yes favorite drink is good way to relax.

You are doing good since you are betting a very small amount and that's very much bearable. I try to bet small amount but the environment at casino turn me on and at times I bet high but still I am fortunate enough to have money to buy a drink that helps in overcoming the grief of loss.

Placing a small amount in betting will not be a problem but when our emotions still go on, that will be a problem for us. And I think that is because we are hard to accept to see what we select is getting a loss, especially if our favourite team or player that we select is lost. The favourite drink can be a solution to release the tension and not become stress because of the loss. But leaving the bet will be important as that can make us forget the last bet that we place.

[KTChampions]

I did not play much in the casino and I cannot say that I experienced any special emotions winning/losing (the amounts were small), but for example, when I place bets on sports competitions, even with the minimum bet, when watching this competition, my emotions sometimes go off scale, so yes favorite drink is good way to relax.

You are doing good since you are betting a very small amount and that's very much bearable. I try to bet small amount but the environment at casino turn me on and at times I bet high but still I am fortunate enough to have money to buy a drink that helps in overcoming the grief of loss.

Maybe you should buy a drink before going to the casino?   At the very least, this guarantees that you will not spend all your money in the casino and will be left without a drink, but there is another chance that if it is an alcoholic drink, then your game will be less responsible  
By the way, personally, I try not to mix up pleasure, gambling is not the kind of entertainment that I would like to do with the influence of alcohol, since my analytical skills are falling and the courage to spend is growing.

[stadus]

I did not play much in the casino and I cannot say that I experienced any special emotions winning/losing (the amounts were small), but for example, when I place bets on sports competitions, even with the minimum bet, when watching this competition, my emotions sometimes go off scale, so yes favorite drink is good way to relax.

You are doing good since you are betting a very small amount and that's very much bearable. I try to bet small amount but the environment at casino turn me on and at times I bet high but still I am fortunate enough to have money to buy a drink that helps in overcoming the grief of loss.

Maybe you should buy a drink before going to the casino?   At the very least, this guarantees that you will not spend all your money in the casino and will be left without a drink, but there is another chance that if it is an alcoholic drink, then your game will be less responsible  
By the way, personally, I try not to mix up pleasure, gambling is not the kind of entertainment that I would like to do with the influence of alcohol, since my analytical skills are falling and the courage to spend is growing.

If I'm gambling to have more fun, I would surely drink and gamble at the same time.
Sometimes even if you lose money, you will still enjoy gambling because you try to rely on your luck and you gamble what you can afford only, that will still fall on responsible gambling. 

Let us understand that casinos are consistently making money because most of the casino goers are losers, but do they complain? No, because they were entertained and their losses are their expenses for their enjoyment, it's just a matter of how you see things in different gambling situations.

[SacriFries11]

I am not pro gambler but for me it depends upon the game you're playing. If I am playing cards tongits, I must manage my card well because it will not always be a good card ahead. My mother plays lotto loke keno and swertres, she has some analizations but failed most of the time. But for me playing lotto is more on luck because we cannot really predict it like dice results. All in all we should still enjoy when we are playing. Choosing what to play and where we think we are good at is also important.

[Natsuu]

I am not pro gambler but for me it depends upon the game you're playing. If I am playing cards tongits, I must manage my card well because it will not always be a good card ahead. My mother plays lotto loke keno and swertres, she has some analizations but failed most of the time. But for me playing lotto is more on luck because we cannot really predict it like dice results. All in all we should still enjoy when we are playing. Choosing what to play and where we think we are good at is also important.

Therefore "tongits" is a skill-based game, because luck is not a factor for you to lose completely as randomness of the cards that you will draw is not entirely affecting the game. and Lotto is obviously a luck based gambling due to the fact that the chance of you winning this is slimmer than the chance of you getting striked by a lightning.

[Ziskinberg]

I am not pro gambler but for me it depends upon the game you're playing. If I am playing cards tongits, I must manage my card well because it will not always be a good card ahead. My mother plays lotto loke keno and swertres, she has some analizations but failed most of the time. But for me playing lotto is more on luck because we cannot really predict it like dice results. All in all we should still enjoy when we are playing. Choosing what to play and where we think we are good at is also important.

Therefore "tongits" is a skill-based game, because luck is not a factor for you to lose completely as randomness of the cards that you will draw is not entirely affecting the game. and Lotto is obviously a luck based gambling due to the fact that the chance of you winning this is slimmer than the chance of you getting striked by a lightning.

With the lotto, your chance is based on the random numbers that will come out during the draw and the probability of winning is very low, therefore it's called a game of luck. On card game, it's likely a skilled-based game as you are playing against each other, therefore you can install some technique in order to win and be more consistent, that's probably the big difference.

[LastKiss]

For me, I will choose the skill-based gambling because I am not hoping for the luck of life, I want to take action to make my life great. It is still better to think logically and analytically at any time.

But if you are only a beginner, I think the chance-based gambling would be suitable for you, but do not stick only on that, you should improve yourself, acquire skills and knowledge through experience so you will be able to play skill-based gambling soon.

Since I dont great in any skill-based gambling games, I just play with my luck like dice and slot machine games. For an example dice, when I play the game I did it with auto feature which make me can play in many different sites and ofc I can leave it for some minutes instead when I played skill-based games.

[nurilham]

Since I dont great in any skill-based gambling games, I just play with my luck like dice and slot machine games.

Playing with the games that you are familiar with and easy to play, is a good decision. Don't force yourself to play in skill-based games. You can try them when you already have some knowledge about skill-based games then. I think you don't be stuck in chance-based games only, sometimes skill-based games can be more interesting and funnier if you know how to play them well. So, expanse your knowledge even to skill-based games.