🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[Mauser]

I started playing a RTS game called supreme commander after seeing a few twitch cast on their games. They have a huge tournament coming up tight before Christmas. Anybody has heard of betting on the LotS tournament? The community is not as big as Dota or CSGO, but there are more older people playing, so there should be more money involved. Would be awesome to bet on these matches.

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[tomahawk9]

I started playing a RTS game called supreme commander after seeing a few twitch cast on their games.

I remember playing this game a few years ago when for some reason i found myself in a RTS frenzy playing a bunch of games of the genre lol game could use a remaster cos last time i checked the graphics were a bit date

I managed to find some info about the tourney you mentioned: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/283/legendofthestars-end-of-the-year-2020-championship

looks like the main event kicks off tomorrow...as to betting on it? no chance bookies will pick it up, they only offer the mainstream games :/

[ralle14]

I just saw this line offered on stake over maps on OG vs Vikin.gg the correct line is over 3.5 since it's a best of 5 series but either way I like the odds as Vikin.gg beat OG 2-0 during the group stages but now OG are having some success with their lower bracket run. I think Vikin.gg takes this one but i'm going with the over and see how it goes  very confident on both of them taking at least one map.

[JEFE92]

2 bets for today's Blast Fall 2020:

Vitality - BIG: My bet
Astralis - Natus Vincere: My bet

Vitality continues to crash their rivals, moreover, based on interviews, BIG are not very positive about winning the tournament, so I give the victory to Vitality. NaVi have already won once against Astralis at Blast, a very bright game against Furia rather strengthened their morale, but the match should be very tough. GL! 

[Trofo]

I just saw this line offered on stake over maps on OG vs Vikin.gg the correct line is over 3.5 since it's a best of 5 series but either way I like the odds as Vikin.gg beat OG 2-0 during the group stages but now OG are having some success with their lower bracket run. I think Vikin.gg takes this one but i'm going with the over and see how it goes  very confident on both of them taking at least one map.

And they are not the only one with this mistake. I played over 2.5 @1.99 at my local bookie and I hope it will be a valid game but it will probably be voided. No matter it is a part of 6x multi since they give much better odds on on one game if I play 6 games and those odds stay even if they void half of my ticket. So value however it ends.

I'll probably play over 3.5 maps after it gets included properly in the offer.

[tomahawk9]

I just saw this line offered on stake over maps on OG vs Vikin.gg the correct line is over 3.5 since it's a best of 5 series <...>

that layout, that's Stake, isn't it? if it is then i think they're fixing it cos the only market they're offering at the time of writing is Moneyline, same story on Fortunejack, Sportsbet.io, Betcoin.ag, Bitsler...omg, geez what a coincidence LOL  

anyways, gonna be a hectic Sunday in the esports world with tons of finals (today's also gonna be very hectic as well). Here's a list of the main events with links to Liquipedia for more info:

Dota 2
- Epic League Division 2 Grand Final
- Epic League Division 1 Grand Final

CSGO
- BLAST Premier Fall Grand Final
- DreamHack Open December Grand Final

Rocket League
- RLCS X - Winter: NA Event 2 - Finals & Grand Final
- RLCS Season X - Winter: Oceania - Semifinals & Final

Hearthstone
- World Championship 2020 - Semis & Grand Final

Valorant
- JBL Quantum Cup - Semis & Grand Final

Warcraft III
- DreamHack Open Winter EU final and AM final

Quake
- Quake Pro League Season 2: Stage 1 Finals

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esports bookies are offering all of those events except for Valorant (not even Pinnacle or Unikrn have it listed lol) and Quake which i think only Buff.bet and EGB are offfering it

[Trofo]

I just saw this line offered on stake over maps on OG vs Vikin.gg the correct line is over 3.5 since it's a best of 5 series <...>

that layout, that's Stake, isn't it? if it is then i think they're fixing it cos the only market they're offering at the time of writing is Moneyline, same story on Fortunejack, Sportsbet.io, Betcoin.ag, Bitsler...omg, geez what a coincidence LOL  

anyways, gonna be a hectic Sunday in the esports world with tons of finals (today's also gonna be very hectic as well). Here's a list of the main events with links to Liquipedia for more info:
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esports bookies are offering all of those events except for Valorant (not even Pinnacle or Unikrn have it listed lol) and Quake which i think only Buff.bet and EGB are offfering it

What is the best eSports bookie at the moment? Best for me means very good odds (best if possible) and enough of history of legit play so I can have 500-1000$ on their site without fear of exit scam or limits on bigger tournaments. I understand limits on small tournaments and that is ok. Bitcoin deposit/withdrawal is a must.

[hanspeter77]

Now Live Team Vitality vs BIG  stand now 1:1  im have think that BIG lost 0:2 
Last round Dust2 omg BIG are very good on this map they have an chance to win.
should BIG win that would be crazy  (im Bet on Vitality) 

Next go Astralis vs Natus Vincere great match think Astralis will win

[mezzaluna]

Now Live Team Vitality vs BIG  stand now 1:1  im have think that BIG lost 0:2 
Last round Dust2 omg BIG are very good on this map they have an chance to win.
should BIG win that would be crazy  (im Bet on Vitality) 

Next go Astralis vs Natus Vincere great match think Astralis will win

Astralis's lineup will still need more time to get into sync but seeing Natus Vincere's previous games, I still think we will get a good show. Electronic mostly win's any duel he is getting and Bit's potential is still developing and its likely another Stewie2k kind of guy. Im just gonna go NaVi on this one.

Its also good to see so many matches in CS:GO since there are so many teams in the EU and CIS regions which is enough to create many tournaments.

[tomahawk9]

Bookies finally opened the markets for Valorant's JBL Quantum Cup which starts in a few hours

Best for me means very good odds (best if possible) and enough of history of legit play so I can have 500-1000$ on their site without fear of exit scam or limits on bigger tournaments. I understand limits on small tournaments and that is ok. Bitcoin deposit/withdrawal is a must.

I'll recommend two:

1) Pinnacle. Home of the sharp players and high rollers, I'm sure you know this book. Low juice in all of their lines means excellent odds, prolly some of the best in the industry. They accept btc but you still gotta go through the usual KYC bs like any other fiat bookie.
2) Buff.bet. Offers the lowest margins/best odds among crypto friendly bookies (best odds out of the 16 or so crypto-books that i follow), especially in the top 3 games which are LOL, Dota, CS,, been with them for like a year and my experience has been fantastic

[STT]

Stake cover esports games and also Betnomi does esports I need to see if they cover some games this week I'll be watching Dreamhack and a small team is there that I know a couple players even but I dont know they'll be in bets covered, I dont know if anyone does every single game and its always the best odds.   Surely this varies on the bettors themselves on that site.      They are reliable enough on the money front which is probably the majority of your question and you can test the rest for yourself over time as I think it will vary.    My best site at times has been places that dont even exist now unfortunately, the landscape can change or good owners but old is gold generally though personal experience and recommendations goes a long way also.

[ralle14]

Stake settled the over as a win even though the series ended 3-0 too bad I didn't have a big bet on it.

OG is looking unstoppable yesterday swept Vikin.gg and all three maps was very one sided. I'll test my luck again and go with VP to win the grand finals even though OG got the momentum I still think VP is the better team since they've been more consistent during the entire tournament. I'm only going for a small bet since they could still get outdrafted.

[Trofo]

1) Pinnacle. Home of the sharp players and high rollers, I'm sure you know this book. Low juice in all of their lines means excellent odds, prolly some of the best in the industry. They accept btc but you still gotta go through the usual KYC bs like any other fiat bookie.
2) Buff.bet. Offers the lowest margins/best odds among crypto friendly bookies (best odds out of the 16 or so crypto-books that i follow), especially in the top 3 games which are LOL, Dota, CS,, been with them for like a year and my experience has been fantastic

Buff bet has some problems, my firefox shoots all kinds of certificate warnings when I try to visit them so I decided to skip them.
Did not now that pinnacle accepts BTC, I will use them in the future than. I already have an account there and I just got a notice the other day that they will close it since it has not seen any activity for 7 years, I consider as a sign. Time flies

I tried betonbit yesterday but I don't like them. Won my first 2 tickets and today they don't let me play a ticket for more than 2 mBTC. They don't even allow withdrawal of full amount, not gonna use them in the future.

@STT
Stake is great bookie and I use them daily but not for the eSports, same as Sportsbet.

[hanspeter77]

Team vitality vs Astralis Today in the Finals, im waould happy when Astralis win.
butt hard to say every Team will win 

Now live Saw vs Virtus.Pro first round win Saw LOL  have think is an easy match for virtus 

[tomahawk9]

What a weekend! So glad that the finals in CSGO and Dota actually delivered a good show and weren't a stomp. And the RLCS final between Envy and Spacestation was pretty insane too. The Quake Pro League grand final didn't dissapoint either and i actually enjoyed it a lot, i'm not a Quake fan but i really like how fast-paced this game is...

anyways, this week, more events. OGA Pit and IEM Global Challenge start tomorrow. Will update the Calendar in the OP later today

I tried betonbit yesterday but I don't like them.

Yeah that site sucks. Terrible odds, not so friendly UI, barely anyone knows this site exists (i only see it being mentioned in this forum)...it's the type of bookie that you simply can't recommend

[Trofo]

I tried betonbit yesterday but I don't like them.

Yeah that site sucks. Terrible odds, not so friendly UI, barely anyone knows this site exists (i only see it being mentioned in this forum)...it's the type of bookie that you simply can't recommend

I saw Rand using it for all his bets, so I thought it can't be that bad.

I really don't get their withdraw policy. I deposited 20 mBTC and won some tickets, they let me withdraw 39 mBTC and limited my bets to under 2 mBTC. I placed a shitload of similar bets to go around it and won some more. Now they decided I can withdraw another 33 mBTC and limited my bets to under 1 mBTC.
I still have some funds locked - under 10 mBTC so I again played them all. Shitty experience but at least I am making money

I wanted to play my whole balance on two DOTA finals yesterday. I wanted over 3.5 maps on both games, they actually allowed me to place a bet of 0.01mBTC on that. WTF? Stake and Sportsbet only offered over 4.5 market which was a bit too risky.

They have a nice character build going on site. You actually get some items like in old school RPG games and that items give you bonuses on payouts, odds and some other stuff. That is a nice addition which I have not seen anywhere. They also have instant withdrawals which is great, but I had to wait for 7+ confirmations on BTC deposit, again WTF?

[tomahawk9]

I saw Rand using it for all his bets, so I thought it can't be that bad.
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yeah, Rand is a good punter, but man, betonbit is just...bad

hmm, given how they're a really small and fairly unknown bookie, they prolly were caught off guard by a sharp player like you making bank and decided to limit you asap?    btw, pretty cool that you won a lot, thing is that the margins on this book are waaaaay too high  you could've gotten bigger payouts in other bookies. For example, Betonbit margins for V.P - OG yesterday were 14% in Moneyline, Total maps and Handicap...the standard among crypto bookies offering esports and this match (Stake, FJ, Sb, Luckbox, cyberbet, lootbet, etc, etc, even fiat books like bet365 or ggbet), was around 6% and 8%  

anyhow, thanks for sharing your experience, helpful stuff for people who will be looking for info about this bookie (:

[STT]

I found Stake is offering the full range of bets for the small match I wanted to bet on so its giving me an ideal odds of 9 to 1 on a new team beating the established Dignitas  female team in Dreamhack CSGO tomorrow but since I know the players on the opposing team are perfectly valid and experienced, one is even an ex team mate I reckon its worth a small underdog bet and also for 3 maps occurring.

[hanspeter77]

Tomorrow at the Nine to Five Cloud9 vs Pact  Bet on Cloud 9 an easy match for cloud 
and Tomorrow Start IEM XV Global Challenge 4 matches very nices matches great to watch.
My favorite BIG and Astralis 

[ralle14]

My winning streak might end today since I haven't had any luck with csgo but i'll give this one a shot Astralis -1.5 vs Complexity. Complexity is playing with a stand in for this series, they announced that poizon won't be playing and ottond will take his position. Astralis on the other hand is looking unstoppable after their second place finish in Blast Fall I expect their dominance to continue against weaker teams.