🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[STT]

Best of five ESL finals match  no-org vs Order, normally I'd guess it goes the distance but the bet for maps seems to be for the full 5 to be played which is alot of matches all in a row.  I think both teams will be motivated but for once I'd guess the game is not close enough for every map to play out.   Each team is listed as having its best and worst maps at polar opposites, no org winning Nuke in the majority is probably more significant overall.

[ralle14]

There's no way Damwon will lose against Mad Lions later today but I like the odds on the Mad Lions +2.5 map handicap or over 3.5@1.96 since the last time they've played against each other was during the MSI and it ended 3-2 for Damwon. I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up 3-0 since Damwon they looked clean during the group stage but I hope Mad Lions will put up a decent fight just like their last meeting.

[KTChampions]

There's no way Damwon will lose against Mad Lions later today but I like the odds on the Mad Lions +2.5 map handicap or over 3.5@1.96 since the last time they've played against each other was during the MSI and it ended 3-2 for Damwon. I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up 3-0 since Damwon they looked clean during the group stage but I hope Mad Lions will put up a decent fight just like their last meeting.

I think the only question that will be decided in this quarterfinal is what the score will be - 3:0 or 3:1.
By the way, can someone explain to me why the odds for the victory of DG with a score of 3-0 is 1.75, and the odds for the victory of DJ with a handicap of -2.5 is 2.00 in fact this are equivalent events?

[tomahawk9]

I took them @2.6 after they lost game 1. That is nice on those BO5 games* you can get a lot of odd swings and catch up some real value

nice catch! 👍 those were generous odds after game1, i guess everyone remembered RNG's dominant H2H against EDG and thought the latter didn't have a chance to comeback from 0-1

There's no way Damwon will lose against Mad Lions later today but I like the odds on the Mad Lions +2.5 map handicap or over 3.5@1.96 since the last time they've played against each other was during the MSI and it ended 3-2 for Damwon. I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up 3-0 since Damwon they looked clean during the group stage but I hope Mad Lions will put up a decent fight just like their last meeting.

some bookies have +2.5 @1.7, that's honestly decent value...but, it's DK, man :/  edit* MAD lions just threw game2 with a 7k gold lead lol embarrassing, but Khan was insane there

By the way, can someone explain to me why the odds for the victory of DG with a score of 3-0 is 1.75, and the odds for the victory of DJ with a handicap of -2.5 is 2.00 in fact this are equivalent events?

that looks like an obvious error from the bookie
most books offer slightly different odds despite being the same event (I've seen 3-0 @2.00, -2.5 @2.09 and Under 3.5 @1.99) but the one one you mention is too big of a difference 🤔

[KTChampions]

By the way, can someone explain to me why the odds for the victory of DG with a score of 3-0 is 1.75, and the odds for the victory of DJ with a handicap of -2.5 is 2.00 in fact this are equivalent events?

that looks like an obvious error from the bookie
most books offer slightly different odds despite being the same event (I've seen 3-0 @2.00, -2.5 @2.09 and Under 3.5 @1.99) but the one one you mention is too big of a difference 🤔

I even took a screenshot just in case


It was https://sportsbet.io I almost never bet with a handicap, so I thought I was confusing something. Having clarified the information about different types of handicaps, I still did not understand how this coefficient can be explained (as I understand it, it cannot be an Asian handicap).
In any case, the games will start soon, I hope they will be interesting.

[Trofo]

By the way, can someone explain to me why the odds for the victory of DG with a score of 3-0 is 1.75, and the odds for the victory of DJ with a handicap of -2.5 is 2.00 in fact this are equivalent events?

that looks like an obvious error from the bookie
most books offer slightly different odds despite being the same event (I've seen 3-0 @2.00, -2.5 @2.09 and Under 3.5 @1.99) but the one one you mention is too big of a difference 🤔

It was https://sportsbet.io I almost never bet with a handicap, so I thought I was confusing something. Having clarified the information about different types of handicaps, I still did not understand how this coefficient can be explained (as I understand it, it cannot be an Asian handicap).
In any case, the games will start soon, I hope they will be interesting.

Always check all the markets when betting on Sportsbet.io. They are my favorite bookie but they always have odds discrepancies between same outcomes. The one you caught is extreme case but you will find marginally better odds on some markets almost on all games. They are adjusting the odds per market without linking markets for some outcome.
Ie. in football, you have Asian handicap, regular handicap and double chance, with odds difference of 0.05 almost on every game.

[ralle14]

Taking Gen G -1.5 @1.80 for today, I know they looked shaky during the group stage but still think their firepower and overall performance is still a level above Cloud9 and imo this will probably end 3-0 or 3-1 for Gen G. I also have a slightly bigger stake on Gen G series winner since i'm close to reaching the next reward on the clubhouse. 

[Wexnident]

Taking Gen G -1.5 @1.80 for today, I know they looked shaky during the group stage but still think their firepower and overall performance is still a level above Cloud9 and imo this will probably end 3-0 or 3-1 for Gen G. I also have a slightly bigger stake on Gen G series winner since i'm close to reaching the next reward on the clubhouse. 

Gotta agree with the Gen G pick, C9 doesn't seem like they can actually match how Gen G plays right now, they may nab one game but that should be it. I reckon a complete 3-0 is completely possible for Gen G as long as they don't make any major mistakes. 15 minutes in already in Game 1 and Gen G is pretty much demolishing C9 right now. C9 is capable of turning this around though, they have a pretty good comp for a team fight if they manage to catch multiple people off and set up the fight with how they want.

[hanspeter77]

Now Live Team LDLC vs Team Dignitas a cool match each team play very agressiv and each team win 1 round 
that can be a long match, butt Dignitas should win this match they had a bit troulbe on the start butt now its good.

[finaleshot2016]

Yes, they believed they'd shatter the TS Magnus, but collapse is completely different, so they're still picking it, and the team trusted him with that hero. That's one of LGD's mistakes; they should've respect ban on Magnus, and I think it's a bad decision to display their awesome draft (lycan tiny) in the battle between team secret; perhaps team spirit already knows about this draft and is preparing for it. I checked Team Spirit's recent matches, notably in the Easter qualifiers, and they've managed to stay in the upper bracket, indicating that they're more than just a normal dota2 team.

They did become confident that they can beat Collapse's Magnus again. If I were their coach, I'll respect it and will ban it for the entire series. Although there really are heroes that can counter Magnus but it's still going to be different from most of the games if there's a comfort hero that has been banned. As I've read xinQs post in weibo since there's an issue that's rotating towards their coach, he said that even they'll ban Magnus, Team Spirit, all of them, have a large hero pool.

Have a large hero pool is always having that kind of advantage because opposing team will really be having that fucking hard time on which hero should be banned its true that if they do banned out Magnus

but still wont really be a guarantee that they would win up but i do agree that they should have banned it if they do based up on how this Collapse magnus did really play well and make other teams go home

then as a coach then i wont really be doubting on banning this one directly but well its their choice and its too late to whine now.

Collapse still has his Mars, but LGDs morale has suffered in recent games, and I believe that even if they don't use Magnus, they still have a chance to win. We can tell Team Spirit is quite confident in their matchup versus LGD. Yes, there's nothing we can do about it; they're world champions right now, and there's nothing we can do about it. Those who have bet on LGD and hoping them to be the TI10 champ make a huge loss right now because it's very unexpected.

[madnessteat]

^

Dignitas are playing a good game. In general, there is a feeling that the LDLC team after yesterday's victory relaxed and can't get their act together. The score is already 0 - 5 in favor of Dignitas and it seems that LDLC has no chance.

[tomahawk9]

it's time for some CS:GO action! PGL Major starts tomorrow! you guys know of any bookies offering sweet promos for this event?

i've got some tickets for Challengers round 1


Copenhagen have been showing good cs lately, i'm surprised the moneyline is x2.6 🤔

[STT]

Im wary of best of 1 but it lets me view more then bet to start.  It could be all different from the known ranks in theory, we've been in virtual games too often and the proper game is always LAN based it can alter results I reckon.
https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/PGL/2021/Stockholm

Its all bo1 but no team goes home without being given the chance of playing the full bo3 format first which is the right way to do it.

I agree with more rounds occurring in these matches but I dont know I will place the bet, maybe a bit of live betting if some wild swings between the two halves if that can occur that can be ideal to bet.

[batang_bitcoin]

Yes, they believed they'd shatter the TS Magnus, but collapse is completely different, so they're still picking it, and the team trusted him with that hero. That's one of LGD's mistakes; they should've respect ban on Magnus, and I think it's a bad decision to display their awesome draft (lycan tiny) in the battle between team secret; perhaps team spirit already knows about this draft and is preparing for it. I checked Team Spirit's recent matches, notably in the Easter qualifiers, and they've managed to stay in the upper bracket, indicating that they're more than just a normal dota2 team.

They did become confident that they can beat Collapse's Magnus again. If I were their coach, I'll respect it and will ban it for the entire series. Although there really are heroes that can counter Magnus but it's still going to be different from most of the games if there's a comfort hero that has been banned. As I've read xinQs post in weibo since there's an issue that's rotating towards their coach, he said that even they'll ban Magnus, Team Spirit, all of them, have a large hero pool.

Have a large hero pool is always having that kind of advantage because opposing team will really be having that fucking hard time on which hero should be banned its true that if they do banned out Magnus

but still wont really be a guarantee that they would win up but i do agree that they should have banned it if they do based up on how this Collapse magnus did really play well and make other teams go home

then as a coach then i wont really be doubting on banning this one directly but well its their choice and its too late to whine now.

Collapse still has his Mars, but LGDs morale has suffered in recent games, and I believe that even if they don't use Magnus, they still have a chance to win. We can tell Team Spirit is quite confident in their matchup versus LGD. Yes, there's nothing we can do about it; they're world champions right now, and there's nothing we can do about it. Those who have bet on LGD and hoping them to be the TI10 champ make a huge loss right now because it's very unexpected.

In those weibo posts of the LGD members, they've said that Collapse and the rest of the Team Spirit has their many hero pools so that they couldn't just focused on the magnus ban. In twitter posts of Kpii and Chuan(former TI champ, IG), they have an easy counter to magnus and I think all of their minds are the same about the magnus ban. We as fans, think that it's going to be a respect ban that's best for them but on the minds of these experienced pro players, they have also a way to counter heroes and what made LGD lose at the game 5 was being tired and pressured.

[KTChampions]

It was https://sportsbet.io I almost never bet with a handicap, so I thought I was confusing something. Having clarified the information about different types of handicaps, I still did not understand how this coefficient can be explained (as I understand it, it cannot be an Asian handicap).
In any case, the games will start soon, I hope they will be interesting.

Always check all the markets when betting on Sportsbet.io. They are my favorite bookie but they always have odds discrepancies between same outcomes. The one you caught is extreme case but you will find marginally better odds on some markets almost on all games. They are adjusting the odds per market without linking markets for some outcome.
Ie. in football, you have Asian handicap, regular handicap and double chance, with odds difference of 0.05 almost on every game.

Sure. I will try to keep a closer eye on the odds there. So far, I have not used this bookmaker, but since there is such a wide range of odds, it can be assumed that there is a possibility of catching all sorts of profitable arbitrage bets.
As for LOL, the quarterfinals were disappointing - one interesting pair out of 4. Hopefully a pair T1 - DG will show something epic 

[hanspeter77]

Now live BIG vs Entropiq  eacht team win 3 rounds now  im hope BIG win butt it not easy Entropiq is in good form.
play on nuke not the best for BIG 
and now live to Movistar Riders vs Renegades im think Renegades will win this.
later than Heroic vs TyLoo that shoulb be very easy for Heroic ^^

[madnessteat]

^

Yes recently ended the game Heroic vs TyLoo. Heroic practically the whole game and as many assumed won the game with a score of 16 - 12.

In 14 minutes the game will start Astralis vs Entropiq I think it will be an interesting match.

[tomahawk9]

In 14 minutes the game will start Astralis vs Entropiq I think it will be an interesting match.

interesting, indeed, cos Astralis are playing like trash    losing to CF was within the realm of possibility given CF's recent form, but so far they're 4-10 down in first half vs. Entropiq, wtf?? They can totally fight back on T side, but still, they're really bad right now. Lucky could be bottom fragger again :/

[madnessteat]

^

Haha you are absolutely right. Entropiq showed Astralis how to play and beat them 16 - 6. I find this game interesting because Entropiq is a Russian-speaking team. And since I am from Russia myself, of course I support this team and wish them luck.

[hanspeter77]

Tomorrow play BIG vs Renegades  that should be easy for BIG they the better Team.
Team Spirit vs TyLoo for sure Spirit is the stronger team they win for sure
ENCE eSports vs Mousesports im hope Mouse win butt im dont think it gone be hard for Mouse Ence is strong.