🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[ralle14]

Unfortunate loss yesterday just when I decided to go for the over in map 1 it went under due to Phoenix's greedy draft. Hopefully, today's the day i'd break the losing streak as we have a lot of dota matches scheduled today.

I see some value in T1 -1.5 @2.06 vs OB Neon, I understand Neon just won a tournament and their momentum might carry over to this DPC match but i'm still not convinced since most of their matchups were against CN teams.

Edit : Another loss, T1 stomped the first map but Neon drafted well in the second map and it looks like Neon might pull off the upset as T1 got outdrafted in the third map.

[teddybear]

Unfortunate loss yesterday just when I decided to go for the over in map 1 it went under due to Phoenix's greedy draft. Hopefully, today's the day i'd break the losing streak as we have a lot of dota matches scheduled today.

I see some value in T1 -1.5 @2.06 vs OB Neon, I understand Neon just won a tournament and their momentum might carry over to this DPC match but i'm still not convinced since most of their matchups were against CN teams.

Edit : Another loss, T1 stomped the first map but Neon drafted well in the second map and it looks like Neon might pull off the upset as T1 got outdrafted in the third map.

There definitely seems to be some bad blood among both teams. During game 1, T1 mid(karl) called Neon's mid "DOG" in all chat after Karl kills him. Later after Neon wins the series they went mad in All chat as well.. calling T1 "Bobo" and "Intro Boys". SEA teams are build different..but this is on another level haha. Fun games but I expected 2-0 win for T1 as well. Unlucky there.

[passwordnow]

There definitely seems to be some bad blood among both teams. During game 1, T1 mid(karl) called Neon's mid "DOG" in all chat after Karl kills him. Later after Neon wins the series they went mad in All chat as well.. calling T1 "Bobo" and "Intro Boys". SEA teams are build different..but this is on another level haha. Fun games but I expected 2-0 win for T1 as well. Unlucky there.

It was abeng that called "gg intro boys". When there's trash talk, it's always fun and these scenarios are always normal if you're in the SEA. Whether it's in the pub or tournaments, as long as it's normal trash talk, there won't be any problem as these people also knew each other in real life, at least for the same race. T1 is strong but Neon is improving and I was one of the people before that look down on this current roster that they have but, they're proving themselves.

[hanspeter77]

in the Weplay Academy are some cool matches all the pro teams the newcomer.
mouz NXT vs FURIA Academy for sure will mouz win they are to strong.
Astralis Talent vs BIG Academy im hope BIG win butt its not easy Astralis Talent are very good.

[ralle14]

It was abeng that called "gg intro boys". When there's trash talk, it's always fun and these scenarios are always normal if you're in the SEA. Whether it's in the pub or tournaments, as long as it's normal trash talk, there won't be any problem as these people also knew each other in real life, at least for the same race. T1 is strong but Neon is improving and I was one of the people before that look down on this current roster that they have but, they're proving themselves.

That banter was refreshing to see and I agree Neon definitely improved a lot after what they showed in the Huya Invitational.

Also, i've noticed that the underdogs have been starting to win more recently or maybe it's the bookies who are way off with their predictions. Anyway, I got a bet on Fnatic @1.60 vs Motivate Trust, both teams with a 2-2 record losing against BOOM and SMG but I prefer Fnatic as they have the better players on paper.

[passwordnow]

It was abeng that called "gg intro boys". When there's trash talk, it's always fun and these scenarios are always normal if you're in the SEA. Whether it's in the pub or tournaments, as long as it's normal trash talk, there won't be any problem as these people also knew each other in real life, at least for the same race. T1 is strong but Neon is improving and I was one of the people before that look down on this current roster that they have but, they're proving themselves.

That banter was refreshing to see and I agree Neon definitely improved a lot after what they showed in the Huya Invitational.

It's no doubt that they're really improving and no one can deny despite they've felt short on the first game and they literally look like kids.

Also, i've noticed that the underdogs have been starting to win more recently or maybe it's the bookies who are way off with their predictions. Anyway, I got a bet on Fnatic @1.60 vs Motivate Trust, both teams with a 2-2 record losing against BOOM and SMG but I prefer Fnatic as they have the better players on paper.

MG.Trust won the first game. The odds for this match aren't really that far and I think it's a fair odd. Spirit breaker meta is on it and became popular recently. Early game was in favor of Fnatic yet MG.Trust still took it, let's see what goes for the 2nd game.

[hanspeter77]

tomorow some cool matches in the WePlay Academy League Season 3
Eternal fire Academy vs FURIA Academy hard to say who win each team is not bad i would bet on draw butt that not pssible.
Team Spirit Academy vs mouz NXT for sure win mouz they are mutch better tahn spirit.

[ralle14]

MG.Trust won the first game. The odds for this match aren't really that far and I think it's a fair odd. Spirit breaker meta is on it and became popular recently. Early game was in favor of Fnatic yet MG.Trust still took it, let's see what goes for the 2nd game.

Yup, it looked rough for Fnatic after watching the first map, I was a bit worried in the second map thinking they'd lose 2-0 due to lack of disables but good thing they had a decent laning phase and forced Motivate Trust to make one mistake after another then next thing you know they bounced back in the next two maps. Also, I have to give props for DJ, his performance was so consistent throughout the series and always quick with the counter reactions whenever Motivate Trust plans to engage on one of their cores.

[passwordnow]

MG.Trust won the first game. The odds for this match aren't really that far and I think it's a fair odd. Spirit breaker meta is on it and became popular recently. Early game was in favor of Fnatic yet MG.Trust still took it, let's see what goes for the 2nd game.

Yup, it looked rough for Fnatic after watching the first map, I was a bit worried in the second map thinking they'd lose 2-0 due to lack of disables but good thing they had a decent laning phase and forced Motivate Trust to make one mistake after another then next thing you know they bounced back in the next two maps. Also, I have to give props for DJ, his performance was so consistent throughout the series and always quick with the counter reactions whenever Motivate Trust plans to engage on one of their cores.

Yeah, that lineup seems to be lack of those disables needed but this is common now as I've seen them a lot in different teams and for different regions.
But what's important at this rate is that they've won games 2 and 3  and you've also won your bet. Later on, it's going to be TNC vs Boom and T1 vs MG.Trust.

[STT]

NBK joining Mouz is great news, he may be older but his transformative abilities for intelligent play and IGL position even can be a great asset in the right team.   The biggest negative to label this move with would be that the team is varied in their countries and accents and that can mean communication needs to develop and be practiced more then a team all from the same part of the world.
  Not yet liking any of the games available to bet on so much, it'll be interesting to see the new lineups and how they progress so a slow start to the year really.

Code: (global all stars Mouz )

Australia Christopher "⁠dexter⁠" Nong
Lithuania Aurimas "⁠Bymas⁠" Pipiras
Slovakia David "⁠frozen⁠" Čerňanský
Hungary Ádám "⁠torzsi⁠" Torzsás
France Nathan "⁠NBK-⁠" Schmitt

Denmark Dennis "⁠sycrone⁠" Nielsen (coach)

Denmark Frederik "⁠acoR⁠" Gyldstrand (benched)

[ralle14]

Aside from that roster reveal from Mouz, Vitality announced their new roster with the addition of Magisk, dupreeh and zonic.

G2 picking up monesy as their 6th player in the roster.

Ropz also moving to Faze reuniting with karrigan.

As for my pick, i'm going for a two leg multi between T1 and CIS Rejects @1.90 not touching the handicaps for now since T1 could fuck up their draft again and CIS Rejects should beat Navi based on their form.

[Trofo]

As for my pick, i'm going for a two leg multi between T1 and CIS Rejects @1.90 not touching the handicaps for now since T1 could fuck up their draft again and CIS Rejects should beat Navi based on their form.

Same for me but a little braver. I have CIS Rejects ML + T1 -1.5. Yeah T1 can screw their draft but I am hoping it will not be so big screw up that they will not be able to make it work trough higher quality of players and team mechanics. First game is just starting so keeping my fingers crossed for "serious" drafting.

[tomahawk9]

NBK joining Mouz is great news, he may be older but his transformative abilities for intelligent play and IGL position even can be a great asset in the right team.   [...]

Huge downgrade after Ropz left, and dexter still on the team but they bench acor and sell ropz wtf?   Mouz new roster looks does not look exciting at all, grim

 

Aside from that roster reveal from Mouz, Vitality announced their new roster with the addition of Magisk, dupreeh and zonic.

Vitality were used to an all-French team, magisk, dupreeh and zonic were in a team that i assume almost always communicated in danish during the games, so it'll be interesting to see how they communicate during a crucial game when they're under massive pressure,, i'd say it's gonna take some time to see the full potential of this team

CIS Rejects

quick rundown on who they are and why they're called like this? lol

[Coin_trader]

There definitely seems to be some bad blood among both teams. During game 1, T1 mid(karl) called Neon's mid "DOG" in all chat after Karl kills him. Later after Neon wins the series they went mad in All chat as well.. calling T1 "Bobo" and "Intro Boys". SEA teams are build different..but this is on another level haha. Fun games but I expected 2-0 win for T1 as well. Unlucky there.

It was abeng that called "gg intro boys". When there's trash talk, it's always fun and these scenarios are always normal if you're in the SEA. Whether it's in the pub or tournaments, as long as it's normal trash talk, there won't be any problem as these people also knew each other in real life, at least for the same race. T1 is strong but Neon is improving and I was one of the people before that look down on this current roster that they have but, they're proving themselves.

They rarely direct thrashtalk on a pro series. They are using chat wheel but not a direct chat of thrashtalk especially OB.Neon is not that close to T1 roster, Maybe on previous roster of TNC but not on Neon. This is not normal on SEA Pro scene but I will agree if this is only pubs game. This guys need to act professionally because they are carrying there national flag while playing.

[passwordnow]

There definitely seems to be some bad blood among both teams. During game 1, T1 mid(karl) called Neon's mid "DOG" in all chat after Karl kills him. Later after Neon wins the series they went mad in All chat as well.. calling T1 "Bobo" and "Intro Boys". SEA teams are build different..but this is on another level haha. Fun games but I expected 2-0 win for T1 as well. Unlucky there.

It was abeng that called "gg intro boys". When there's trash talk, it's always fun and these scenarios are always normal if you're in the SEA. Whether it's in the pub or tournaments, as long as it's normal trash talk, there won't be any problem as these people also knew each other in real life, at least for the same race. T1 is strong but Neon is improving and I was one of the people before that look down on this current roster that they have but, they're proving themselves.

They rarely direct thrashtalk on a pro series. They are using chat wheel but not a direct chat of thrashtalk especially OB.Neon is not that close to T1 roster, Maybe on previous roster of TNC but not on Neon. This is not normal on SEA Pro scene but I will agree if this is only pubs game. This guys need to act professionally because they are carrying there national flag while playing.

They're close, the Filipino players are close to each other even they are from different teams. As long as they're trash-talking to each other, there's nothing personal, they'll just make fun of it.
There's no need for any professional act on it since they're just casually trash-talking each other and there's no offense to the trash-talk that has been said to Karl.

[ralle14]

quick rundown on who they are and why they're called like this? lol

I think they named their team like that is because most of them (Ramzes, 9pasha, Rodjer, Fng) weren't picked up by any of the big orgs like VP, Navi or Gambit. On the bright side, they're still getting a lot of success and on their way to qualifying the first division.

Skipping the China division for now since it's way too unpredictable but I like Spirit -1.5 @1.79 as Navi continues to produce inconsistent results.

[passwordnow]

quick rundown on who they are and why they're called like this? lol

I think they named their team like that is because most of them (Ramzes, 9pasha, Rodjer, Fng) weren't picked up by any of the big orgs like VP, Navi or Gambit. On the bright side, they're still getting a lot of success and on their way to qualifying the first division.

I saw the same question on Reddit and you're right. Most orgs didn't get them and their past orgs have locked contracts with those rosters they have and for VP, they're mostly taking those young talents and many CIS teams rejected them.
Yeah, they're on the top rankings on div 2 and they're likely to take the one slot for div 1 after this DPC EEU.

[hanspeter77]

Today in the WePlay Academy League Season 3
Astralis Talent vs Fnatic rising im think Fnatic will win this match they are better.
Young ninjas vs NIG Academy im hope BIG win butt im dont think Ninjas are to strong.
FURIA Academy vs Team Spirit Academy for sure Sprit will win they are very good

[tomahawk9]

quick rundown on who they are and why they're called like this? lol

I think they named their team like that is because most of them (Ramzes, 9pasha, Rodjer, Fng) weren't picked up by any of the big orgs like VP, Navi or Gambit. On the bright side, they're still getting a lot of success and on their way to qualifying the first division.

After i read Ramzes and Fng were in this team i had to look them up, pretty good roster ngl... they finished 8-0 in the group stage of CL,, not bad
I feel bad for Fng not having the chance to play in a decent team after he left Alliance tho, he's a good plater

anyway, league of legends fans we've been starving for so long, but we finally eating! LPL is back tomorrow, FPX - RNG,,
FPX just signed Clid (ex Gen.G) a few days ago, this is massive improvement over their last jungler, but if we're talking about improvements, RNG singing Bin is by far the best one out of all of the roster changes, imo they have the best roster in the league, period. I'd go with RNG to win if it wasn't cos my bookie has RNG @1.4 odds while a few books have 1.54

[ralle14]

Following you on that RNG pick, for some reason I think FPX might snag a map based on their performance in the Demacia cup but it's tough rely on a cup game since we've seen other dota teams shift gears and look like a different team during the DPC matches. For now the odds are sitting at 1.44 but if you have some funds on sportsbet you could push it to 1.47 thanks to their odds boost.

Also just saw this in my email, nice to see bitsler hosting a small Dota tournament.