🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[Peanutswar]

Expected loss on Tundra as they somehow got outdrafted on the first map, even though they held on pretty well their cores barely did much as CK fell off mid game as Entity had so much aoe to kill off his illusions.

That was actually a good start by Entity.

Nice try for huskar on the 2nd game but it didn't do, they shouldn't play with the same hero just because they've won since it would be easier for teams like Tundra to counter that hero through game play.

Still, they've won on 2nd and 3rd game.

I watched that whole series and it was quite entertaining. In first map Huskar destroyed Tundra draft after getting a couple of items but Tundra showed that they are better team in other two maps and took the series.

We have Vici against Lbzs early tomorrow and I am thinking about taking Lbzs to take at least one map. Somehow just feels better to bet on underdogs taking one map than on favorite to win 2:0. You have 2 chances at success

Today one of the new meta is the huskar game there's a lot of pub matches that they are picking the huskar for the offlane and midlane because of the large scale impact effect of the first skill disable so its a really good draft with the aghanims of the huskar its force its enemy to attack him and create a good space looks like a mini axe of this meta but with disable, its still a good draft with both team cant wait for the primal beast getting into the tournament match with the use of pro players.

[ralle14]

ENCE exceeded my expectations, I didn't expect them to beat Vitality 2-0 and if they're able to beat Outsiders(formerly VP) then their series against Furia would be like the deciding series on whoever takes the quarterfinal spot. With that said i'll take ENCE at plus odds even though Outsiders swept Faze yesterday this one seems more of a 50-50 than a 60-40 which is what the odds currently suggest. Over 2.5 seems like a good alternative as well since these two are likely to get at least one map.

[dimonstration]

Another loss from Vitality out here, This the first time I saw Apex being on top 1 frag on there team. vitality seems adjusting there roster since they defeated by Ence last night, Zywoo performance is not his typical game though. Anyway Furia my boy keeps giving a cold on this tournament by always playing a close game match on every team they are facing,

Upcoming match will be Ence and Outsider which is a very good pick to have +1.5 to Ence for a better odds just incase they choke this time. Ence is the dark horse of tournament tho.

[Beparanf]

Another loss from Vitality out here, This the first time I saw Apex being on top 1 frag on there team. vitality seems adjusting there roster since they defeated by Ence last night, Zywoo performance is not his typical game though. Anyway Furia my boy keeps giving a cold on this tournament by always playing a close game match on every team they are facing,

Upcoming match will be Ence and Outsider which is a very good pick to have +1.5 to Ence for a better odds just incase they choke this time. Ence is the dark horse of tournament tho.

KSCERATO keep them alive when they are already controlled by Vitality. He carry the team on the 5 crucial round until 14th score with his clutch shot to kill on fire players of Vitality. That 2v1 situation on the B site really gives me a chill, He keeps faking the bomb plant to lure Vitality then kill them 1 by 1 until all enemies was eliminated. I loss my bet on Vitality but I love watching the game. I really hate KSCERATO when he is on clutch.

I don’t have any info on Outsiders team, they are not available too on liquipedia.

[dothebeats]

ENCE exceeded my expectations, I didn't expect them to beat Vitality 2-0 and if they're able to beat Outsiders(formerly VP) then their series against Furia would be like the deciding series on whoever takes the quarterfinal spot. With that said i'll take ENCE at plus odds even though Outsiders swept Faze yesterday this one seems more of a 50-50 than a 60-40 which is what the odds currently suggest. Over 2.5 seems like a good alternative as well since these two are likely to get at least one map.

This was a nail-biter ngl. I only bet on over 2.5 maps and I'm not mad that ENCE pulled through against Vitality. I was hoping for a Vitality win but with the current form of Zywoo, and Apex being the top frag on most cases seems to be not the Vitality that I usually watch.

Anyway, I do agree with that ENCE pick against Outsiders. It's a value pick albeit the odds being skewed towards ENCE. We'll see. Outsiders is a good team with good composure, but ENCE just dominated a tier 1 team in a convincing fashion.

[dimonstration]

Another loss from Vitality out here, This the first time I saw Apex being on top 1 frag on there team. vitality seems adjusting there roster since they defeated by Ence last night, Zywoo performance is not his typical game though. Anyway Furia my boy keeps giving a cold on this tournament by always playing a close game match on every team they are facing,

Upcoming match will be Ence and Outsider which is a very good pick to have +1.5 to Ence for a better odds just incase they choke this time. Ence is the dark horse of tournament tho.

KSCERATO keep them alive when they are already controlled by Vitality. He carry the team on the 5 crucial round until 14th score with his clutch shot to kill on fire players of Vitality. That 2v1 situation on the B site really gives me a chill, He keeps faking the bomb plant to lure Vitality then kill them 1 by 1 until all enemies was eliminated. I loss my bet on Vitality but I love watching the game. I really hate KSCERATO when he is on clutch.

I don’t have any info on Outsiders team, they are not available too on liquipedia.

Don’t dare bet against my boy, he have a solid clutch time if they needed and Art to cover him in case he is not on fire. Art and Kscerato is very good on 1v1 or in clutch time even they are outnumbered. You should always bet+1.5 with them in any of there match because they usually find a way to secure 1 game win no matter what is the odds.

Outsiders is Virtus Pro, they decided to change there on this tournament to avoid conflict for being a russian team.

[sunsilk]

Expected loss on Tundra as they somehow got outdrafted on the first map, even though they held on pretty well their cores barely did much as CK fell off mid game as Entity had so much aoe to kill off his illusions.

That was actually a good start by Entity.

Nice try for huskar on the 2nd game but it didn't do, they shouldn't play with the same hero just because they've won since it would be easier for teams like Tundra to counter that hero through game play.

Still, they've won on 2nd and 3rd game.

I watched that whole series and it was quite entertaining. In first map Huskar destroyed Tundra draft after getting a couple of items but Tundra showed that they are better team in other two maps and took the series.

We have Vici against Lbzs early tomorrow and I am thinking about taking Lbzs to take at least one map. Somehow just feels better to bet on underdogs taking one map than on favorite to win 2:0. You have 2 chances at success

Yeah, the first map did really make huskar dominated but in the 2nd game, it didn't do any good anymore. That's the usual thing that happens with huskar pickers, if there's the 2nd game, they're usually counter-picked or being counter played.

Did you still bet for LBZS? Yang is back on VG and they've beaten LBZS for 2 games.

Counter after counter and this is something a very common behavior between teams between matches on which if they do saw that it did really beat them up with that draft then if its not banned
on next game then most likely it would be picked up again which it is really that normal that there would be repetitive kind of picks. I agree on that CK illusions which is easily been wiped
and the rest is really talking about being outdrafted but as said they do able to make out some adjustments.

They're learning from their loses and that's a normal reaction from these teams, they're all professionals and that's how to do it whenever they've been surprised with an unexpected pick.

[Trofo]

Yeah, the first map did really make huskar dominated but in the 2nd game, it didn't do any good anymore. That's the usual thing that happens with huskar pickers, if there's the 2nd game, they're usually counter-picked or being counter played.

Did you still bet for LBZS? Yang is back on VG and they've beaten LBZS for 2 games.

What's funny with that Huskar play and counters is that in the first game Huskar was first pick and they had all their picks to counter it and failed. In second map it was 4th pick so they did not have many picks to counter it and still they won.

I did not place the bet in the end. I got emergency at work and forgot about. Don't even know how it finished.

[boyptc]

Yes, still that works for them.

They are continuously testing new heroes, metas and strategies. That's why it's okay for them to have a bad run at their first matches. They're changing like beast when it comes to TI.

It's totally different when TI comes, teams are changing and hiding some strategies to surprise and have a sure win.

Yep. Especially that Tiny - Lycan combo from TI10. Nigma and PSG.LGD were the first ones to test it on scrims right even before the groupstages, though PSG used it more than Nigma at the time. Nigma also knew how to defeat that combo because they, too, hid that strat before PSG abused it heavily. Hopefully though, we see some more intense NGX on the early stages of the game for us to bet on them. Can't wait for DPC to get done with and move on to the next major.

Yeah, those heroes and combination, they're really making a great meta with those and being released only during the biggest tournament which is the TI.

Speaking of next major, there's an update about it. There's one that's going to occur on Arlington, Texas USA.

--> https://dotesports.com/dota-2/news/pgl-to-host-dota-2-major-in-arlington-this-august

[tomahawk9]

oh this sucks, BOOM esports had to forfeit vs NGX.SEA cos of a blackout, they actually got to a cyber cafe but they were 2 minutes late wtf   https://twitter.com/natshuba/status/1505141934041427971

Nigma with the memes tho

https://twitter.com/NigmaGalaxy/status/1505154610083905538

anyway, comments about Liquid v OG later today? not sure why bookmakers have a Liquid as the main fav whe they got 2-0'd by Secret a few days ago 🤔

[STT]

Do the tolerances really need to be down to 2 minutes, did they have that tight a schedule to broadcast that they cant just discuss for a little longer.     Poor team, maybe they can get a starlink satellite uplink and a power generator as backup like Ukraine peoples

Furia doing very well but so is ENCE somehow they both beaten Vitality.  Map stats says ENCE wins Mirage 70% of the time so maybe go on that as thats especially good.  Both teams won their map pick, Furia is out if they lose this series and ENCE will play again either way.

I'll do a multi bet ex-vp and Faze to win

[boyptc]

oh this sucks, BOOM esports had to forfeit vs NGX.SEA cos of a blackout, they actually got to a cyber cafe but they were 2 minutes late wtf   https://twitter.com/natshuba/status/1505141934041427971

Nigma with the memes tho

https://twitter.com/NigmaGalaxy/status/1505154610083905538

That truly sucks.

Everyone is expecting that Boom esports is going to give some good fight to NGX.SEA and they'll take the series. But no way, they've been badly affected by this circumstances that other teams have dealt before.

Anyway, just come back stronger against Polaris on March 23.

anyway, comments about Liquid v OG later today? not sure why bookmakers have a Liquid as the main fav whe they got 2-0'd by Secret a few days ago 🤔

The game was postponed and going to commence later because of some bug that has been found ingame.

[Peanutswar]

oh this sucks, BOOM esports had to forfeit vs NGX.SEA cos of a blackout, they actually got to a cyber cafe but they were 2 minutes late wtf   https://twitter.com/natshuba/status/1505141934041427971

Nigma with the memes tho

https://twitter.com/NigmaGalaxy/status/1505154610083905538

anyway, comments about Liquid v OG later today? not sure why bookmakers have a Liquid as the main fav whe they got 2-0'd by Secret a few days ago 🤔

Also, the team management of the boom esports makes a sorry for their supporters because of this kind of technical errors and for sure many betters get angry how about their bet but most of the e-sports bet refunded their money because of this issue feels sad I didn't see my favourite player tims to get a good play again well we didn't expect this so prepare for the comeback of the boom e-sports.

[sunsilk]

Yeah, the first map did really make huskar dominated but in the 2nd game, it didn't do any good anymore. That's the usual thing that happens with huskar pickers, if there's the 2nd game, they're usually counter-picked or being counter played.

Did you still bet for LBZS? Yang is back on VG and they've beaten LBZS for 2 games.

What's funny with that Huskar play and counters is that in the first game Huskar was first pick and they had all their picks to counter it and failed. In second map it was 4th pick so they did not have many picks to counter it and still they won.

I did not place the bet in the end. I got emergency at work and forgot about. Don't even know how it finished.

Nice, because if you do, that's a loss for you.

Well, these pro teams know really how to do it the 2nd time an opponent has picked huskar to them. The counter plays are essential and common to them.

And if the first game and the team with the huskar won, if there's any possibility of using it again, they really are going to use it for the 2nd time. But this hero isn't good with that, and that's why they've seen it as a wrong thing to do.

[dothebeats]

Do the tolerances really need to be down to 2 minutes, did they have that tight a schedule to broadcast that they cant just discuss for a little longer.     Poor team, maybe they can get a starlink satellite uplink and a power generator as backup like Ukraine peoples

Most of these events concerning DPC have a strict schedule, albeit them always being late for broadcast by 10-15 mins on their end. Idk why they don't allow for any grace period even further on online matches. They aren't losing much by allowing teams to get their shit together for a couple more minutes due to technical problems. It's unavoidable, and they know it. Even they have encountered lots of technical issues in the past and no one can even penalize them for the delays.

[ralle14]

Unfortunately the Liquid vs OG game today is moved tomorrow due to a bug related to the neutral camps.

Also, today's the last day of the ESL Pro League matches for Group B and i'm really digging Outsiders to take down Vitality, I don't know what's going on with Vitality but they're underperforming than what i've expected and the bookies are still giving them way too much credit. While Team Outsiders took down Faze a few days ago, the odds should be a bit higher imo given Vitality's slump and might as well take advantage of the insurance promo.

[tomahawk9]

I don't know what's going on with Vitality but they're underperforming than what i've expected and the bookies are still giving them way too much credit.

it's probably the lack of proper teammate comms during a match. Seeing Apex with only 10 kills across 2 maps yesterday is just insane, he's struggling a lot, most likely cos he's not used to using english yet, and if the igl isn't comfortable, then his teammates will have a hard time as well

G2 and Vitality already out of the tournament... if trend continues then Players (Gambit) will get ko'd in Group C, and then NaVi in Group D? 

[SUPERSAIAN]

I don't know what's going on with Vitality but they're underperforming than what i've expected and the bookies are still giving them way too much credit.

it's probably the lack of proper teammate comms during a match. Seeing Apex with only 10 kills across 2 maps yesterday is just insane, he's struggling a lot, most likely cos he's not used to using english yet, and if the igl isn't comfortable, then his teammates will have a hard time as well

G2 and Vitality already out of the tournament... if trend continues then Players (Gambit) will get ko'd in Group C, and then NaVi in Group D? 

You made a good analysis. It is clear that there are communication problems during the match. Vitality doesn't stand a chance. If FaZe wins today's game, they don't have a chance to leave the group, am I wrong?

Furia unexpectedly surprised me in this group. Let's see how far they can go in the playoffs.

[hanspeter77]

In 3 Days start the ESL Pro League Season 15 very nice a big competition with great teams.
the first matches Players vs Party Astronauts for sure win this the Players.
GODSENT vs Movistar Riders im think GODSENT will win butt its not easy movistar riders are not to bad.
the best match for this day is BIG vs Team Liquid im hope BIG win butt think they get some trouble Liquid is one of the best teams in this competion.

[sunsilk]

Unfortunately the Liquid vs OG game today is moved tomorrow due to a bug related to the neutral camps.

I thought that it's going to be the game day today.

But still, what a worth it time to wait for this match. It's liquid and OG, we know how these tier 1 teams play and I think this is one of the few times to see a match being postponed because of a bug.

Unlike before, when there's a bug, there's an exploitation and abuse for those bugs and they're quick in patching it during the tournament to avoid further abuse.